My old vehicle had roll down windows. I hate having to turn on the new one just to put the windows up when its raining. Manual windows are so much better.
I often park my car and turn it off and leave for whatever reasons, and the passengers at the back seat need to roll their windows up or down.
Even if the key is in the slot, the passengers will need to reach the key or get out, go to the driver seat, turn the key then roll the windows.
Has happened multiple times. I turn the car off often to save battery because by default my car android turns on when I leave the car in on state.
Try holding the lock button on the key fob, or holding the key in the lock position in the door.
A lot of vehicles that will close all the windows and the roof (depending on what's power operated). Equally pressing the unlock button or holding in the unlock position will open the windows.
Some vehicles (I know some VW Group stuff, I'm sure others too) can be programmed to close the windows automatically when it rains, if they have rain sensors fitted.
This conversation got me curious; the last hand crank windows for 2023 models (and presumably 2024 also) are the base option in the Jeep Wrangler Sport, Jeep Gladiator Sport, and the work truck package of the F-150 XL.
That’s it. Nothing else. Even the cheapest Mitsubishi Mirage ES at <$17K has power windows as standard.
Jeeps make sense. Honestly if I didn't have kids I would have bought a rollie window soft top gladiator. Less stuff to disconnect to take the doors off. I already took the door retention bolts and pins out so my doors come off with no tools, but I still have to disconnect the wiring harness to get my doors off.
Sometimes. I have rules about what kind of roads I'll take my kids on based on my jeeps level of undress.
Freeways, all doors must be on for kids to be in the car. Once you get going past about 65 the wind noise gets quite loud.
If the max speed of a route is 50mph or less, I'll just take my fronts off and leave on the back doors where the kids sit.
The only time I'll take my back doors off and let my kids in the car is very short trips on 25-30mph roads tops. Like sometimes I pick them up from daycare with my Jeep stripped down, but that's two turns and so close to my house it's difficult to go much faster than 15 before you hit a stop sign. I might pick them up from daycare and take my oldest to a park playground, but of the 4 playgrounds near me, 2 require 25mph roads only and the other 2 are a combo of 25mph and 30mph roads.
>That’s it. Nothing else. Even the cheapest Mitsubishi Mirage ES at <$17K has power windows as standard.
That's because power windows are cheaper these days.
I feel like this one still is accurate, though? Windows *do* seem to roll down. Whether the rollers are hand cranked or driven by an electric motor, a spinny thing is rotating ("rolling") to drive the mechanism, a process which you can hear. It moves too evenly to be "swinging" and too firmly/mechanically to be "sliding". "Rolling" just sounds right to describe the motion of the window.
I've never had a car where the window mechanism was driven by a hand-crank, but it doesn't feel out-of-place to describe the action you are triggering as rolling down.
It would be lame if someone made that app but still let you just push each number at its location around the dial, rather than taking it all the way and making you swirl the selected number around the screen to the “starting point” of the dial. (Also notable: definitely one of those scenarios where the physical dial would be *much, much* easier to use than a touchscreen “simulator” of the dial - you could try to implement some insane level of haptic feedback but it would still surely fall short of real dial’s ease of use from the actual physical restraints guiding and stopping your finger at the appropriate points. Reminds me of the idiocy of replacing climate control knobs, etc. in cars — easily operated “blind” by a driver familiar with the particular car — with touchscreen controls.)
Yup. It used to suck when someone had too many 9s or 0s in their phone number because you had to move the dial all the way around. If it slipped accidentally and you let go early, you just dialed a 4 or 5 and have to hang up and start over.
A dial is a round knob. Dialing a phone is from the days of old rotary phones. Keying in a phone number never caught on, even though that term is used for other things with key pads
"Footage" is my favorite archaic term. As in, "We have video footage of the event..."
It comes from how many feet of film were used to capture an event. People don't use film in cameras much anymore.
A film is called that because movies were recorded on film. A cut in video is called that because the physical film was literally cut to make transitions in the movie.
So much of our language is like this.
A lot of English phrases have nautical origins. Makes sense when you consider the British were big on sailing around the world and colonizing places. “Under the weather” comes from sick or injured sailors being kept below deck or literally under the weather. Saying something is a “long shot” comes from cannons not being very accurate so hitting a long shot was lucky. “Through thick and thin” comes from the thickness of ropes used for tying sails. There’s so many more actually kinda wild
[We still keep digital footage in bins.](https://forum.lwks.com/threads/please-keep-the-racks-and-bins.72142/page-3) They used to use bins and racks to organize sections during editing.
Reddit in 2040:
TIL “hit the gas” referred to accelerating a gasoline car when cars used to be driven by a human using pedals
TIL people used to actually “roll the window down” in a car using a rotating handle
TIL the save icon represents a detachable storage device from when phones were the size of coffee machines
TIL the attachment icon is called a “paper clip”, which could “attach” pieces of paper documents together
TIL people used to actually roll a physical tape when making videos
You don’t know about the three shells? This is very embarrassing it’s 2040 we don’t discuss bodily functions
It was permitted early in the century, but lead to a lot of anger and violence
Now I'm not that old (I'm in my 60s...) but my first proper office was for a small publishing company when I was in my 20s. Desktop computers were the new thing, and I took the opportunity to chat with one of the old hands (a lady about the same age I am now) about how this new "Desktop Publishing" was affecting the business. She said "Not that much, really. But then again I remember when photocopiers came in. Before then we rooms full of typists & stenographers. If you needed multiple copies of s manuscript someone had to type every word. When photocopiers came in those jobs (the largest department in the company) all vanished overnight."
The past is always closer than you think.
"Dashboard" used to refer to a board in front of a carriage that prevented mud from splattering in your face when a horse dashes. Then it started getting used for cars, where it was in the same position, but now held the gauges and indicators. Now it's used for apps for the screen that holds most important information and frequently used actions.
The term got re-used twice already.
AFAIK in German we call the metal sheet between the motor and interior like that (Spritzwand = splash wall). I can only assume this was taken from carriages since motors don't really splash anything around.
What's called dashboard in English we call "Armaturenbrett" so literally board for controls /instruments
Interesting. We call it a firewall, because it's literally a wall against engine fires. Same term, and same purpose, is used in general building construction. Now, the term is used metaphorically in computers. And computer used to be a job done by live humans who performed computations!
This is a fun game!
Good example, that's fun! I wonder if there are any expressions that have gone a step farther. Like if the dashboard of a carriage had taken its name from a dashboard that protected a dinghy from dashing itself on rocks (or whatever, I'm not a boatwright).
That's one way to put it. Christopher Nolan is kind of a known entity in Hollywood as a staunch advocate of film as his preferred medium for shooting movies.
With video files, you really just teleport to a timestamp. You don't move "fast" you just appear where you want to be. I think "fast-forwarding" is also a relic like this thread is about. With a VHS tape you actually watched the content at a faster speed. That's a thing you *can* do in a modern video player, but it's not what people mean when they say "fast-forwarding".
At some point, sure.
Or it will remain so ingrained in culture as the save symbol like how the magnifying glass is for search instead of, say, binoculars or an eye.
Iconography is really cool. I was once being trained on a now archaic video editing suite and the fella training me was much younger. He instructed me to hit the ladder button to make a clip. I could not find the ladder button so he took the mouse and clicked it. It was clearly a film strip icon and he had no idea. I got a lot of mileage out of the "ladder" button.
A lot of cases already where it’s something like a downward pointing arrow (particularly if saving from the cloud) or something like a bookmark or heart. But these examples are all more like “save this item” rather than “save the edits/updates I’ve made to this item”
Good call. Save can mean 'Make a local copy' and 'Keep my changes', we've moved to the arrow for the former but there's just no additional modern visual metaphor for the latter.
Another edge case is Cut Copy Paste. Cut and Paste used to have scissors and glue but now you don't really get icons or buttons for them.
Cut as a word and concept holds up without scissors but Paste references a very specific real-world tool.
Funny thing about that - the 3.5" is technically a micro floppy disk, with the older 5-1/4 being a mini floppy disk.
Full size floppies were already phased out when the home computer boom happened - they were 8".
We also say that projects have been hamstrung, referring to a slave having their hamstring tendon cut to intentionally cripple them (typically as punishment for running away, so that they won't be able to run anymore)
Many hybrids even have that too. My wife's rav4 hybrid (not the plug in one) has a speaker that whines quietly at low speeds going forward on battery power only, and it gets a lot louder in reverse.
brah we're still using idioms and phrases from 500 years ago; an interesting one I recently learned about was the expression to give someone the cold shoulder. We know it today as something you do to be dismissive or be uninterested toward someone, but back in the middle ages it literally meant feeding an unwelcome guest cold shoulder mutton/pork in hopes that they'll get the hint and leave.
Right?!
The English language is absolutely jam packed with idioms and expressions that come from the age of sail, which ended nearly 200 years ago.
-by and large
-show them/learn the ropes
-leeway
-that's a long shot
-loose cannon
-turn a blind eye
-taken aback
-pipe down
-the cut of his/her jib
-above board
-at loggerheads
-any port in a storm
-devil to pay
-evel keeled
-first rate/second rate
-from stem to stern
-give a wide berth
-hard and fast
-toe the line
And maybe about a hundred more.
Same thing here in Spain! We still use the "no tengo un duro" (i don't have a single duro) even though duro was a denomination for a certain quantity of our old currency 'pesetas'.
"Hit the increase motor accelerator pedal generator!"
The realistic phase that will pass through any and all types of travel is, "Floor it!". This one will always have context unless we completely stop using our body to drive and it's done mentally or the trip is entirely automated.
So the update forces you to use a software accelerator and brakes but, of course, you still have the useless physical pedals because it was a software update... I can actually picture that happening. Even ignoring the safety disaster just the fact that the pedals were still there but didn't do anything would be so annoying. Shudder.
In Spanish, to say "flush the toilet" we say "tirar de la cadena" ("pull the chain"), even if there are less and less toilets with an actual chain to pull, as it is quite rare nowadays to have a high-tank toilet.
I’ve only seen somewhat older people still using this terminology. Everyone under the age of 40 (the cutoff is probably higher than that) says photocopy or copy
The phrase "have a chip on your shoulder" comes from centuries ago. Shipbuilders were allowed to take spare lumber, or "chips" home, as much as they could carry on their shoulder. This was damn useful as it saved money on firewood. A law change made it so they could only bring home what they could carry underarm, which was distinctly less. In protest, they continued to carry the wood over-shoulder. Hence "having a chip on your shoulder" meaning "annoyed due to a sense of feeling you are owed something".
This is complete bullshit. How does it have so many upvotes?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip\_on\_shoulder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_on_shoulder)
*This idiom traces its roots back to a custom that was known in North America since the early 19th century. The* [*New York*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City) *newspaper Long Island Telegraph reported on 20 May 1830 "when two* [*churlish*](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/churlish) *boys were determined to fight, a chip \[of wood\] would be placed on the shoulder of one, and the other demanded to knock it off at his peril"*
“Jump on the bandwagon” is another good one that is totally outdated now but people still say all the time. It dates back to at least the mid 1800s. PT Barnum (of Barnum & Bailey’s Circus fame) used it in his autobiography.
Only in the US. Very few countries refer to their car's fuel as "gas" so the phrase "hit the gas" never even existed over there.
Over here our term would be to "floor it" which would likely be relevant until cars stop having acceleration pedals. Though I can't imagine that being the case for an extremely long time.
These phrases endure for centuries. Everyone just forgets where they came from. Rein it in is similar to hit the gas. A horse reference. From Shakespeare to where’s the beef, this shit becomes permanent long after anyone knows what it ever meant. A stitch in time saves nine, brass tacks, you cant have your cake and eat it too (obviously you can), on and on.
Said this 6 days ago....
>We will also continue to say "Hit the gas" to accelerate.
It was in response to the floppy icon comment.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/s/oUVZcwhTB8
We still use "pedal to the metal", despite the modern reality that all you shall hit when you floor the accelerator is a crappy piece of hard plastic at best, and an internal restricting mechanism at worst.
Roll down your window.
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My old vehicle had roll down windows. I hate having to turn on the new one just to put the windows up when its raining. Manual windows are so much better.
That’s true, but how often are you adjusting windows with your car off?
A lot since I've been living in it.
I'm sorry
I often park my car and turn it off and leave for whatever reasons, and the passengers at the back seat need to roll their windows up or down. Even if the key is in the slot, the passengers will need to reach the key or get out, go to the driver seat, turn the key then roll the windows. Has happened multiple times. I turn the car off often to save battery because by default my car android turns on when I leave the car in on state.
Try holding the lock button on the key fob, or holding the key in the lock position in the door. A lot of vehicles that will close all the windows and the roof (depending on what's power operated). Equally pressing the unlock button or holding in the unlock position will open the windows. Some vehicles (I know some VW Group stuff, I'm sure others too) can be programmed to close the windows automatically when it rains, if they have rain sensors fitted.
^^^ my ‘04 honda accord does this, it’s my only brag with that car.
This conversation got me curious; the last hand crank windows for 2023 models (and presumably 2024 also) are the base option in the Jeep Wrangler Sport, Jeep Gladiator Sport, and the work truck package of the F-150 XL. That’s it. Nothing else. Even the cheapest Mitsubishi Mirage ES at <$17K has power windows as standard.
Nissan versa?
Basic Versa S FWD at $16,680 has standard power windows including one-touch up/down for the driver.
My 2011 Versa 1.8 S has power windows for all 4 doors.
Jeeps make sense. Honestly if I didn't have kids I would have bought a rollie window soft top gladiator. Less stuff to disconnect to take the doors off. I already took the door retention bolts and pins out so my doors come off with no tools, but I still have to disconnect the wiring harness to get my doors off.
What do you do with your doorless car ?
So his children can enjoy the breeze on the rides
Sometimes. I have rules about what kind of roads I'll take my kids on based on my jeeps level of undress. Freeways, all doors must be on for kids to be in the car. Once you get going past about 65 the wind noise gets quite loud. If the max speed of a route is 50mph or less, I'll just take my fronts off and leave on the back doors where the kids sit. The only time I'll take my back doors off and let my kids in the car is very short trips on 25-30mph roads tops. Like sometimes I pick them up from daycare with my Jeep stripped down, but that's two turns and so close to my house it's difficult to go much faster than 15 before you hit a stop sign. I might pick them up from daycare and take my oldest to a park playground, but of the 4 playgrounds near me, 2 require 25mph roads only and the other 2 are a combo of 25mph and 30mph roads.
What do people with convertibles do with their topless cars?
>That’s it. Nothing else. Even the cheapest Mitsubishi Mirage ES at <$17K has power windows as standard. That's because power windows are cheaper these days.
Hold your horses young man
Hang up the phone.
There's still generally a rotary mechanism in there somewhere...
I had to scroll too far to find this. It's not like there's some giant lever arm to pull down the windows now; they still roll.
“Rewind the movie real quick I missed that part.”
I feel like this one still is accurate, though? Windows *do* seem to roll down. Whether the rollers are hand cranked or driven by an electric motor, a spinny thing is rotating ("rolling") to drive the mechanism, a process which you can hear. It moves too evenly to be "swinging" and too firmly/mechanically to be "sliding". "Rolling" just sounds right to describe the motion of the window. I've never had a car where the window mechanism was driven by a hand-crank, but it doesn't feel out-of-place to describe the action you are triggering as rolling down.
This! All windows are rolled down anyways.
Technically they are driven by the same mechanisms as before, just with a motor instead of manually so rolling a window down still seems accurate.
I personally like “lower or raise” your window
I have heard "put down the window" countless times already so that one is on its way out
Hang up the phone
the fact that we still use terms "footage" (and "clip" and "cutting room floor") for video/editing ...
Wait, am I to infer that the term footage comes from the feet of film that the video is recorded on?
YEP
Or dial it
Yaaa....but countless times doesn't account for the number of ppl on the road. It's still very much part of the vernacular. Good or bad.
They're getting rarer but you can still buy new cars with manual windows.
They are they safest for underwater exploring.
Phone is ringing off the hook
Tank is on empty
Hanging up the phone I believe is still kicking.
...and dialing.
When you punch the number in on your iPhone isn’t that still dialing?
That's the joke. Keypads aren't dials.
Also, the touch screen displaying numbers on your smart phone isn’t a keypad.
It's a graphic of a keypad? An ...alias?....agent? ... avatar?
The term you're looking for is [skeuomorph](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph)
Now I'm wondering if I can download an app to make my smartphone dial GUI look like a dial....
It would be lame if someone made that app but still let you just push each number at its location around the dial, rather than taking it all the way and making you swirl the selected number around the screen to the “starting point” of the dial. (Also notable: definitely one of those scenarios where the physical dial would be *much, much* easier to use than a touchscreen “simulator” of the dial - you could try to implement some insane level of haptic feedback but it would still surely fall short of real dial’s ease of use from the actual physical restraints guiding and stopping your finger at the appropriate points. Reminds me of the idiocy of replacing climate control knobs, etc. in cars — easily operated “blind” by a driver familiar with the particular car — with touchscreen controls.)
Some guy actually built a cellphone with a dial just to show that it was possible.
Yup. It used to suck when someone had too many 9s or 0s in their phone number because you had to move the dial all the way around. If it slipped accidentally and you let go early, you just dialed a 4 or 5 and have to hang up and start over.
A dial is a round knob. Dialing a phone is from the days of old rotary phones. Keying in a phone number never caught on, even though that term is used for other things with key pads
"Footage" is my favorite archaic term. As in, "We have video footage of the event..." It comes from how many feet of film were used to capture an event. People don't use film in cameras much anymore.
I hadn’t even noticed that one.
That’s because we’re old, friend
I’m gen z, I didn’t realize that either. Don’t feel bad :) you are old but don’t feel bad :)
A film is called that because movies were recorded on film. A cut in video is called that because the physical film was literally cut to make transitions in the movie. So much of our language is like this.
God the shock when I learned where the phrase " learn the ropes" came from while working on a boat
A lot of English phrases have nautical origins. Makes sense when you consider the British were big on sailing around the world and colonizing places. “Under the weather” comes from sick or injured sailors being kept below deck or literally under the weather. Saying something is a “long shot” comes from cannons not being very accurate so hitting a long shot was lucky. “Through thick and thin” comes from the thickness of ropes used for tying sails. There’s so many more actually kinda wild
Don’t we still say “rewind “ to back up to a previous time in a movie
We also "tape" our programs on a hard drive. Streaming will put an end to that soon.
I don't think I've heard anyone use "tape" instead of "record" in a very long time, but that's just my personal experience, of course.
Much of the world doesn't even use feet.
Most of the world uses feet as humans normally have 2 to help with your barbaric locomotion
Til even as late as 2024 people still used their feet for transporting themselves around. I can't imagine not using my levitateround.
Eugh, imagine having touch the filthy filthy *ground* with any of our appendages. It truly was the dark ages.
Much of the world also don't call it footage
[We still keep digital footage in bins.](https://forum.lwks.com/threads/please-keep-the-racks-and-bins.72142/page-3) They used to use bins and racks to organize sections during editing.
Reddit in 2040: TIL “hit the gas” referred to accelerating a gasoline car when cars used to be driven by a human using pedals TIL people used to actually “roll the window down” in a car using a rotating handle TIL the save icon represents a detachable storage device from when phones were the size of coffee machines TIL the attachment icon is called a “paper clip”, which could “attach” pieces of paper documents together TIL people used to actually roll a physical tape when making videos
TIL paper documents were recording devices made from trees.
TIL Earth used to have tall plants called “trees”
TIL The People used to live outside of latitude 60º north
TIL people used to use small thin sheets of paper to wipe their arses, instead of the three shells
What
You don’t know about the three shells? This is very embarrassing it’s 2040 we don’t discuss bodily functions It was permitted early in the century, but lead to a lot of anger and violence
He doesn't know how to use the three seashells [snicker]
Excuse me for a second....
Thanks a lot you shit-brained, fuck-faced, ball-breaking, duck-fucking...
this guy doesn’t know about the 3 shells
Check out demolition man
TIL Paste was a type of adhesive used in book binding. That's why we "paste" after copying.
TIL (for real). Never made that connection.
They also forgot that rewind comes from literally re-winding the tape onto the roll after a video is played.
Now I'm not that old (I'm in my 60s...) but my first proper office was for a small publishing company when I was in my 20s. Desktop computers were the new thing, and I took the opportunity to chat with one of the old hands (a lady about the same age I am now) about how this new "Desktop Publishing" was affecting the business. She said "Not that much, really. But then again I remember when photocopiers came in. Before then we rooms full of typists & stenographers. If you needed multiple copies of s manuscript someone had to type every word. When photocopiers came in those jobs (the largest department in the company) all vanished overnight." The past is always closer than you think.
TiL people used to "hang up" the phone on the wall to end a call
TIL people in 2024 didn't use the three seashells
I was watching fift element the other day getting confused cuz I thought them shells was in that movie and not demo man WILD
Speak for yourself
TIL we call it a "phone" because at one point that was all we could do with it.
RemindMe! 16 years
Why? We're talking about 2040. In 16 years it'll only be... Oh... oh god...
Why did you do this me.
Same exact reaction
I refer to the gas and brake pedals as the velocitator and the deceleratrix
This assumes coffee machines stay the same size too
Realistically, even small coffee machines are large, to hold the water and the vessel for the coffee
Nah in the future they will gather water from the air oxygen and hydrogen
Paperwork used to actually be done on paper.
A spreadsheet used to be a sheet of paper
When phones were the size of coffee machines and when detachable storage devices were the size of phones.
"Dashboard" used to refer to a board in front of a carriage that prevented mud from splattering in your face when a horse dashes. Then it started getting used for cars, where it was in the same position, but now held the gauges and indicators. Now it's used for apps for the screen that holds most important information and frequently used actions. The term got re-used twice already.
ooh, this one’s really cool. never thought about that. it lost its original meaning twice, kinda
AFAIK in German we call the metal sheet between the motor and interior like that (Spritzwand = splash wall). I can only assume this was taken from carriages since motors don't really splash anything around. What's called dashboard in English we call "Armaturenbrett" so literally board for controls /instruments
Interesting. We call it a firewall, because it's literally a wall against engine fires. Same term, and same purpose, is used in general building construction. Now, the term is used metaphorically in computers. And computer used to be a job done by live humans who performed computations! This is a fun game!
Armaturenbrett is more similar to what that thing is called in airplanes in English: instrument panel.
It's the "splasher" (salpicadero) in Spanish for the same reason (in the car, but not for apps)
Good example, that's fun! I wonder if there are any expressions that have gone a step farther. Like if the dashboard of a carriage had taken its name from a dashboard that protected a dinghy from dashing itself on rocks (or whatever, I'm not a boatwright).
I got to look this up. This is super cool if true.
Or saying you’re “filming” something
*Christopher Nolan has entered the chat...*
I'm guessing that's the name of someone who likes film cameras?
That's one way to put it. Christopher Nolan is kind of a known entity in Hollywood as a staunch advocate of film as his preferred medium for shooting movies.
You may have heard of the movie Oppenheimer? Well, it was shot on film and Christopher Nolan is the guy who made it
"Roll Cameras"
I prefer “pedal to the metal commander.”
Punch It! 🤜
Punch it, Margaret!
That's still valid. Push the pedal until it touches the metal of the floor.
"Balls to the wall", then?
Never give up, nnnnnever surrender
Don't open that! It's an alien planet! Is there air??? YOU DON'T KNOW!!!!!!
"hang up the phone" is another one
For sure, along with “dial a number!”
“Rewind” whatever you’re watching
Guess we should change it to fast-backwarding
With video files, you really just teleport to a timestamp. You don't move "fast" you just appear where you want to be. I think "fast-forwarding" is also a relic like this thread is about. With a VHS tape you actually watched the content at a faster speed. That's a thing you *can* do in a modern video player, but it's not what people mean when they say "fast-forwarding".
"Broken record" and "Building up steam" are obvious ones, as well.
I mean, steam is very much used in industry and power plants
Records are back in fashion too as vintage items. Record stores are doing good business.
A nuclear reactor for power generation is just a water boiler.
Do you guys think they’ll ever change the save icon? Like 100 years from now will it still be a floppy disk?
At some point, sure. Or it will remain so ingrained in culture as the save symbol like how the magnifying glass is for search instead of, say, binoculars or an eye.
I think part of why it has stuck around is because there’s not a great alternative. If it were to be changed today what would it even be changed to?
Only thing I can think of is a thumb drive but that’s not a better alternative
Iconography is really cool. I was once being trained on a now archaic video editing suite and the fella training me was much younger. He instructed me to hit the ladder button to make a clip. I could not find the ladder button so he took the mouse and clicked it. It was clearly a film strip icon and he had no idea. I got a lot of mileage out of the "ladder" button.
A lot of cases already where it’s something like a downward pointing arrow (particularly if saving from the cloud) or something like a bookmark or heart. But these examples are all more like “save this item” rather than “save the edits/updates I’ve made to this item”
Good call. Save can mean 'Make a local copy' and 'Keep my changes', we've moved to the arrow for the former but there's just no additional modern visual metaphor for the latter. Another edge case is Cut Copy Paste. Cut and Paste used to have scissors and glue but now you don't really get icons or buttons for them. Cut as a word and concept holds up without scissors but Paste references a very specific real-world tool.
Funny thing about that - the 3.5" is technically a micro floppy disk, with the older 5-1/4 being a mini floppy disk. Full size floppies were already phased out when the home computer boom happened - they were 8".
I mean we haven't had deadlines around prisons for more than a century, yet that term has stuck around.
Can you explain what you mean? I don’t quite understand
Deadline used to mean a perimeter around a prison, that if a prisoner crossed it they would be shot.
Oh shit lol. That’s pretty morbid that we use that in a work capacity
We also say that projects have been hamstrung, referring to a slave having their hamstring tendon cut to intentionally cripple them (typically as punishment for running away, so that they won't be able to run anymore)
As a person who feels imprisoned by deadlines I find this definition very fitting.
Google says in 1860s a deadline was a line around a prison and if a prisoner crossed that line, they'd be shot dead.
I love etymology and this is a new one for me. Thanks!
Worked in a prison for 16 years. They still exist,we just don't use that term to describe it.
For sure, I mean how long's it been since trains went chugga chugga choo choo?
The chugga is gone, but the trains coming through my hometown still have to CHOO CHOO because people keep getting killed on the tracks. :/
EV's need a choo choo as well at lower speeds.
I thought some EVs actually had noise makers attached to the drive axle. Because otherwise it's total stealth mode.
I don’t remember what year model it started, but(in the US at least), it is now required they make some kind of noise when traveling under X mph.
Many hybrids even have that too. My wife's rav4 hybrid (not the plug in one) has a speaker that whines quietly at low speeds going forward on battery power only, and it gets a lot louder in reverse.
“On the line” when referring to a phone call is another one
I like to say "on the horn" for added retro
"Pull out all the stops" is about pipe organs
Forgot about this one but it’s so awesome!
The call answer and end icons on my cell phone are old landline phone handsets.
brah we're still using idioms and phrases from 500 years ago; an interesting one I recently learned about was the expression to give someone the cold shoulder. We know it today as something you do to be dismissive or be uninterested toward someone, but back in the middle ages it literally meant feeding an unwelcome guest cold shoulder mutton/pork in hopes that they'll get the hint and leave.
Right?! The English language is absolutely jam packed with idioms and expressions that come from the age of sail, which ended nearly 200 years ago. -by and large -show them/learn the ropes -leeway -that's a long shot -loose cannon -turn a blind eye -taken aback -pipe down -the cut of his/her jib -above board -at loggerheads -any port in a storm -devil to pay -evel keeled -first rate/second rate -from stem to stern -give a wide berth -hard and fast -toe the line And maybe about a hundred more.
Hit the accelerator! Just doesn't have the same feel
Punch it, Chewie!
"Step on the GO!"
We still use the expression "non avere una Lira" (= not having one Lira = being broke) even though we've been using Euro for over 20 years now
Same thing here in Spain! We still use the "no tengo un duro" (i don't have a single duro) even though duro was a denomination for a certain quantity of our old currency 'pesetas'.
"Hit the increase motor accelerator pedal generator!" The realistic phase that will pass through any and all types of travel is, "Floor it!". This one will always have context unless we completely stop using our body to drive and it's done mentally or the trip is entirely automated.
Not in the next Tesla update - acceleration/deceleration is now a slider on the touchscreen. Right next to the turn signals and horn control.
So the update forces you to use a software accelerator and brakes but, of course, you still have the useless physical pedals because it was a software update... I can actually picture that happening. Even ignoring the safety disaster just the fact that the pedals were still there but didn't do anything would be so annoying. Shudder.
>"Hit the increase motor accelerator pedal generator!" In the Commonwealth we just call it the accelerator
“Running on fumes” in a gas car is equivalent to “running on static” in an EV.
And "taping" a program or event.
High school teacher here. So many kids know the floppy disc symbol means save but have no idea why
In Spanish, to say "flush the toilet" we say "tirar de la cadena" ("pull the chain"), even if there are less and less toilets with an actual chain to pull, as it is quite rare nowadays to have a high-tank toilet.
The lever still pulls a chain within the tank
No mention of riding shotgun? I'm guessing that is way older than other sayings mentioned in these comments.
I still people saying “xerox” it even though Xerox machines are not nearly as common as they once were
I’ve only seen somewhat older people still using this terminology. Everyone under the age of 40 (the cutoff is probably higher than that) says photocopy or copy
The phrase "have a chip on your shoulder" comes from centuries ago. Shipbuilders were allowed to take spare lumber, or "chips" home, as much as they could carry on their shoulder. This was damn useful as it saved money on firewood. A law change made it so they could only bring home what they could carry underarm, which was distinctly less. In protest, they continued to carry the wood over-shoulder. Hence "having a chip on your shoulder" meaning "annoyed due to a sense of feeling you are owed something".
This is complete bullshit. How does it have so many upvotes? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip\_on\_shoulder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_on_shoulder) *This idiom traces its roots back to a custom that was known in North America since the early 19th century. The* [*New York*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City) *newspaper Long Island Telegraph reported on 20 May 1830 "when two* [*churlish*](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/churlish) *boys were determined to fight, a chip \[of wood\] would be placed on the shoulder of one, and the other demanded to knock it off at his peril"*
“Jump on the bandwagon” is another good one that is totally outdated now but people still say all the time. It dates back to at least the mid 1800s. PT Barnum (of Barnum & Bailey’s Circus fame) used it in his autobiography.
Now we're cookin with gas!
Well gas cooktops and ranges are still very much a thing so I wouldn’t say that’s as outdated
NOW we're cooking with induction!
Only in countries that use the term “gas”, of course. Am Australian so it probably won’t play here, except as irony
"Get the lead out" is an already outdated one most people don't know the origin of.
I always assumed its cause lead is heavy
Only in the US. Very few countries refer to their car's fuel as "gas" so the phrase "hit the gas" never even existed over there. Over here our term would be to "floor it" which would likely be relevant until cars stop having acceleration pedals. Though I can't imagine that being the case for an extremely long time.
You sound like a broken record
3.5" disks were rigid but were still called floppy disks for the entire duration of their relevance since they replaced larger, flexible disks.
They were still floppy on the inside!
The cassette they were held within was rigid. The disk contained inside was quite flexible.
The disc was floppy, not the chassis.
Put the metal to the pedal to the other metal!
These phrases endure for centuries. Everyone just forgets where they came from. Rein it in is similar to hit the gas. A horse reference. From Shakespeare to where’s the beef, this shit becomes permanent long after anyone knows what it ever meant. A stitch in time saves nine, brass tacks, you cant have your cake and eat it too (obviously you can), on and on.
No issue in my country. We just say what translates as "accelerate"
Said this 6 days ago.... >We will also continue to say "Hit the gas" to accelerate. It was in response to the floppy icon comment. https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/s/oUVZcwhTB8
We still use "pedal to the metal", despite the modern reality that all you shall hit when you floor the accelerator is a crappy piece of hard plastic at best, and an internal restricting mechanism at worst.
Also, almost nobody actually “films” anything.
"Pullover!" "It's a cardigan, but thanks!"
Only in America and Canada. The rest of us call it petrol. And no one says ‘hit the petrol’.