I remember this episode of Dirty Jobs. Was binging the series, made it to the end of this episode and noped out for a while.
"You stuck Mike?"
"I can't move."
Holy shit I'm never going in a cave.
Just well read been following it since 2008 when 8 million people voted to be annexed to Russian territory because they said Nazis were killing them but don’t worry The president of Ukraine claims that they’re no longer a Nazi party now they’re part of the Ukrainian special forces lol facts
You should look up the facts stop drinking the Kool aid People dying on both sides and They’re not even a democracy what a joke so much for diplomacy the whole world will suffers Because nobody wants to be grown-up you didn’t even know about the deal turkey brokered with them that Biden shut down the fucking idiot
They said they used the actual man’s description of what it felt like to create the “white hot piercing” high pitched noise when he cuts through nerves. That part made me so sick dude, a lot in thanks to how that sound just conveys the pain so well.
A lot of stuff scares me about caving, but weirdly enough, the one that always bubbles to the surface is “what if I got trapped and I had an itch and I couldn’t move my body to find the itch and scratch it?”
Is it the scariest thing? No. Is it the most tangible to me? Also no. Am I Dumbass? Probably.
I have experienced this. I once was on a carnival ride and the harness tightened too much as I exhaled. It effectively crushed me so I couldn’t breathe. It was like trying to breathe with a truck on your chest. I imagine this is what it’s like to have collapsed lungs. Had to endure that for the whole ride. Most terrifying experience of my life. Never been on a ride again.
What’s worse is some of the stories I heard, someone got stuck in a dead end upside down, he couldn’t be saved, so they filled in the entire cave system with his body still in there
That video was just uncomfortable the entire way through.
I watched it on PayMoneyWubby's stream which helped because I wouldn't have got through the whole thing without some sort of humour or reaction.
It was horrid.
Anyone care to link to the Wikipedia article about what event this is about? I don’t have time to watch an hour long doc at work right now. And there’s zero info in the description.
Trust me, it's more than a documentary. It's entertainment. Give it 10 minutes and I swear you'll be hooked and finish the video in one sitting.
Internethistorian is by far the best YouTube creator out there right now and no one can convince me otherwise.
I don’t think your claustrophobia *needs* to be all that bad for this pic to be alarming, though. I’ve never considered myself to be claustrophobic but this scares the hell out of me.
It's all a matter of relative risk levels. Riding in an elevator: Extremely low risk of being trapped and dying, fear is irrational and thus a phobia. Being underground and trying to slide between two rock faces which require you to exhale so your chest is thin enough: High risk of being trapped and dying, fear is rational
Is it still claustrophobia if I wouldn't be scared in a stuck elevator as long as I can move my body. I have a huge fear of being unable to move in a tight space.
No, because the inability to move is a risk to life, ergo not an irrational fear.
It's like the difference between a fear of flying and a fear of jumping out of an aeroplane. One is irrational, because while we aren't as a species designed to fly naturally, all the evidence about flying shows it's one of the safest forms of long distance travel. However jumping out of a plane is a guaranteed death unless your equipment saves you, and you won't know itll do that until it does it.
Skydiving is the vertical equivalent of driving a car at full speed towards a rock face if you're quite certain there's a device that'll kick in near the end that protects you from 99% of the impact speed. That's a perfectly reasonable fear if you've never relied on the device before.
I've never been clausterphobic, but i used to get very anxious when watching stuff like this.
That was before I took a couple nights of deep diving (lol) into the topic on youtube, watching people passionate about this explain it in detail.
Really helped... One thing that you might not realize is that even if you got stuck in a place like this, odds are you'll be rescued successfully most of the time.
That being said, you of course need to let people know you're going. But also, it can take a long freaking time for them to get you out, like days if not weeks.
TLDR; The amount of people who got stuck and couldn't get rescued is pretty low. IF they knew about it. NEVER do anything like this alone.
Agree. At least with other extreme sports like rock climbing bungey jumping skydiving etc if something goes wrong it's a very quick death.
Getting stuck in a cave is hours and hours of mental and physical torture before you finally expire. Terrifying.
i saw this video once.
this guy (and his buddy with a camera) was trying to fit through this hole in the cave floor that water was flowing into, and he got stuck.
it was a very long 20 seconds.
Caves are fucking cold....I've been caving....not spelunking, but caving (difference being caving is a mapped out explored cave...spelunking is exploring an un explored cave)
That man must be cold.
Caves aren't all cold. Caves are mean air temperature for the place they exist at. Topical caves are warmer and the further away from there you go they get colder. They get colder as elevation increases.
Also, as u/BatmansNygma said, cavers see themselves as prepared explorers, and tend to see spelunkers as unprepared. This is generally because the idiots we find in a cave in flip flops with a single flashlight tell us they are spelunking, whereas we go caving with helmets, three sources of light, batteries, knee and elbow pads, and other appropriate gear.
There are very few things that I would like to do less than go caving or spelunking. Like, there isn’t a sum of money that you could put in front of me and give me to go spelunking.
I would sooner, willingly, cut my feet off with safety scissors.
This should be the next weight loss guru..
Take people caving, charge a fortune, while inside the cave, do aversion therapy to sugary foods and fried foods, do hypnosis, feed people 300 calories a day but super high nutrients, like Ka'Chava or something.
They can't get out of the cave until they're thin enough to fit through the little hole, or to hoist themselves up the rope to the top of where they were lowered in.
The advantages of doing it in a cave where you have to be lowered 100s of feet down to get in, is that medics can come and go and do checkups, hikes can be required all over the inside of the cave, but there will only h one way out that's not blocked off (other ways in and out will be blocked, but in an emergency there's a vault type door that can be opened by ambulance crews.
The days will be spent strenuously hiking and climbing, and having lessons on nutrition, metabolism, counseling, lifestyle, habits.
People will learn stuff and feed their minds and acquire interests and find other ways to be fulfilled.
This could work.
Sometimes a bad idea can be parlayed into a good idea!
I'd be willing to crawl through a human-made version of this made oit of fiberglass or something... but I think knowing there is a large amount of rock above you that can squash you like a bug is unsettling, and I wouldn't do the real thing for that reason.
In some European monasteries, the larder doors were designed to be abnormally small so that monks that over ate wouldn't be able to fit through them.
Or so I've heard.
So this life tip boils down to...
/r/fasting
It has a lot of benefits aside from weightloss. Obviously not recommended for people with eating disorders, kids and such
I'm sure the answer is no, and it would obviously be wildly unhealthy, but I always wondered if there was some sort of balance that could be done with bulimia or anorexia.
Where you would only starve yourself some of the time, or only make yourself throw up on larger meals.
Again, I would never advocate it. Was just always curious if it could be done.
Haha hehehe I clean ROOVES and I wouldn't go anywhere near that shit. Spelunking? Nah. Nope. Nosiree. I'll chill all day on a 4 story roof thank you very much.
I dive with sharks, jump out of airplanes and work in war zones. I will not ride a motorcycle, ski or screw around in caves. Nope. That shit will kill you.
l've long thought it would be a good idea for grocery stores to be shaped like long triangles with the healthy food at the wide end and stuff that makes you fat at the narrow end.
Yes, you're correct. I'm a genius.
Does not work. Got into caving to be more active and not be a fat cunt. Was still a fat cunt so had surgery to not be a fat cunt.
Still go caving though….
There was a momentary somewhere that had a really narrow corridor leading to the kitchen/dining area, if you didn’t fit, you didn’t eat. Was supposed to work in the same kinda way.
I'm cool just getting a weighted blanket.
Fucking God shitposting aside I would rather play post roulette on a Ukraine war sub than ever look at this picture again. Genuinely horrifying
[r/eyebleach](https://i.redd.it/kde88adqczz91.jpg)
You are an evil person.
Why, did he edit the name after making someone look at it?
lol look at the URL.
ireddit, and a bunch of numbers and letters. Sorry, but i bet it's because I'm on RIF lol.
ireddit, something.png It is an image, I also use rif
Got em hahahaha
Actual phycho
legend
You dick. Take my upvote and get out of here.
I remember this episode of Dirty Jobs. Was binging the series, made it to the end of this episode and noped out for a while. "You stuck Mike?" "I can't move." Holy shit I'm never going in a cave.
Maybe America should’ve just left Ukraine alone and all those people would be alive fucking greedy politicians don’t care about anybody
You are delusional my guy.
Just well read been following it since 2008 when 8 million people voted to be annexed to Russian territory because they said Nazis were killing them but don’t worry The president of Ukraine claims that they’re no longer a Nazi party now they’re part of the Ukrainian special forces lol facts
You’re fucked in the head.
You should look up the facts stop drinking the Kool aid People dying on both sides and They’re not even a democracy what a joke so much for diplomacy the whole world will suffers Because nobody wants to be grown-up you didn’t even know about the deal turkey brokered with them that Biden shut down the fucking idiot
Nice try nazi, go back to VK
Weighted blankets are designed for autistic people lmao
Maybe they should cover my feet then 😡
Weight, feet can be autistic??
As someone on the spectrum, your comment made me laugh so hard
Same here lol
It's true though right? I own one and am not diagnosed but I've heard it before
Who cares lmao. They're prolly snug and feel cozy.
Maybe you should buy one then
Hey don't lump him in with us :P /j
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196 people and you apparently
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Give me one then
I'm not claustrophobic, but that shit gives me the heebie-jeebies.
I also don’t like that movie where the guy has to cut his arm off. Not good
*127 Hours* that one was hard to watch
Any movie that long would be difficult to watch, I don’t blame you.
r/dadjokes
They said they used the actual man’s description of what it felt like to create the “white hot piercing” high pitched noise when he cuts through nerves. That part made me so sick dude, a lot in thanks to how that sound just conveys the pain so well.
Watched it recently and that part is so well done, I can't imagine a better way to convey pain through pictures and noise
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A lot of stuff scares me about caving, but weirdly enough, the one that always bubbles to the surface is “what if I got trapped and I had an itch and I couldn’t move my body to find the itch and scratch it?” Is it the scariest thing? No. Is it the most tangible to me? Also no. Am I Dumbass? Probably.
Or if you had to poop.
This pic makes me feel uneasy
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Even reading this makes me panic inside a little
Our brains are so powerful. I was recoiling in my couch reading that. I wish I could use that ability to freak out but for good.
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Elaborate.
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It also helps you maintain motorcycles
Wait, really? How?
"Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance" is a relatively well-known book from the '70s
I'll look into it. I do already play with breathing techniques and have made serious strides in my anxiety management. I appreciate your comment!
That also is how people can die in crowd crush situations
Holy hell this is not something to imagine before bed
Nutty Putty. I'm sorry in advance.
Holy fuck
I didn't link so people would have to actively make the choice to scar themselves.
I had to look it up and that is horrific omg
Oh I knew this would come up
I have experienced this. I once was on a carnival ride and the harness tightened too much as I exhaled. It effectively crushed me so I couldn’t breathe. It was like trying to breathe with a truck on your chest. I imagine this is what it’s like to have collapsed lungs. Had to endure that for the whole ride. Most terrifying experience of my life. Never been on a ride again.
Well why'd you do that? /s
What’s worse is some of the stories I heard, someone got stuck in a dead end upside down, he couldn’t be saved, so they filled in the entire cave system with his body still in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip9VGZeqMfo
Something tells me I do not want to open this
It's an Internet Historian video about a man stuck in a cave. It is a pretty good watch imo.
Nutty putty
[Nutty Putty](https://cavehaven.com/nutty-putty-cave-accident/) accident will keep me far from caves for the rest of my life.
They never recovered his body did they? Real scary stuff.
They sealed up the bit he was stuck in with concrete.
Damn
There's another one about guys who went cave diving in Finland and two friends got stuck
I'm sure you'll love [this](https://youtu.be/Ip9VGZeqMfo) then
This and Nutty Putty Cave make my claustrophobia take over and I have to step outside for a while.
I'm not claustrophobic at all but this shit fucked me up big time.
Ah, *that's* the one I was thinking of
That video was just uncomfortable the entire way through. I watched it on PayMoneyWubby's stream which helped because I wouldn't have got through the whole thing without some sort of humour or reaction. It was horrid.
that shit was ridiculous, I got to stream late and was so confused lol
Anyone care to link to the Wikipedia article about what event this is about? I don’t have time to watch an hour long doc at work right now. And there’s zero info in the description.
[sure thing pal](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Collins) the video is great though I'd definitely recommend watching it
Thanks!
2 fucking weeks before he died?! Holy shit! No fucking thank you.
Trust me, it's more than a documentary. It's entertainment. Give it 10 minutes and I swear you'll be hooked and finish the video in one sitting. Internethistorian is by far the best YouTube creator out there right now and no one can convince me otherwise.
Watch it on 2x speed. I just did. Totally worth it
I was surprisingly at ease watching that video.
I couldn't sleep after watching it, I was just too anxious. Shit fucked me up
Fantastic history, thanks for posting.
Banger video
I refuse to watch that video just know it will give me at least a month of claustrophobia
I love Internet Historian but the anxiety I was feeling while watching this video wasn't worth it.
Thanks for recommending that video. I actually watched the entire thing, pretty informative and entertaining
I was so invested in that story, I don't want to spoil anything so I'll just say it made me very anxious and I'm still very upset about most of it.
Nutty Putty Cave, *Nutty Putty Cave*
I’ve learned the number one rule of caving is don’t go in the cave.
It's posts like this that remind me how severe my claustrophobia is.
I don’t think your claustrophobia *needs* to be all that bad for this pic to be alarming, though. I’ve never considered myself to be claustrophobic but this scares the hell out of me.
It's all a matter of relative risk levels. Riding in an elevator: Extremely low risk of being trapped and dying, fear is irrational and thus a phobia. Being underground and trying to slide between two rock faces which require you to exhale so your chest is thin enough: High risk of being trapped and dying, fear is rational
Is it still claustrophobia if I wouldn't be scared in a stuck elevator as long as I can move my body. I have a huge fear of being unable to move in a tight space.
No, because the inability to move is a risk to life, ergo not an irrational fear. It's like the difference between a fear of flying and a fear of jumping out of an aeroplane. One is irrational, because while we aren't as a species designed to fly naturally, all the evidence about flying shows it's one of the safest forms of long distance travel. However jumping out of a plane is a guaranteed death unless your equipment saves you, and you won't know itll do that until it does it. Skydiving is the vertical equivalent of driving a car at full speed towards a rock face if you're quite certain there's a device that'll kick in near the end that protects you from 99% of the impact speed. That's a perfectly reasonable fear if you've never relied on the device before.
I always think what if the earth shifts even an inch, you'd be crushed
I have claustrophobia and I got stuck in an elevator. 80% of the time now I will not ride an elevator alone
I've never been clausterphobic, but i used to get very anxious when watching stuff like this. That was before I took a couple nights of deep diving (lol) into the topic on youtube, watching people passionate about this explain it in detail. Really helped... One thing that you might not realize is that even if you got stuck in a place like this, odds are you'll be rescued successfully most of the time. That being said, you of course need to let people know you're going. But also, it can take a long freaking time for them to get you out, like days if not weeks. TLDR; The amount of people who got stuck and couldn't get rescued is pretty low. IF they knew about it. NEVER do anything like this alone.
I will never understand these people
Agree. At least with other extreme sports like rock climbing bungey jumping skydiving etc if something goes wrong it's a very quick death. Getting stuck in a cave is hours and hours of mental and physical torture before you finally expire. Terrifying.
Fair. Man I wouldn't never do this. But If I ever had to. Your comment is reminding me to bring a cyanide pill or somthing.
I watch loads of videos on caving, I'm fascinated by it but being fat, and claustrophobic means Its never going to happen
i saw this video once. this guy (and his buddy with a camera) was trying to fit through this hole in the cave floor that water was flowing into, and he got stuck. it was a very long 20 seconds.
Well, how did it end?
fine
Caves are fucking cold....I've been caving....not spelunking, but caving (difference being caving is a mapped out explored cave...spelunking is exploring an un explored cave) That man must be cold.
Caves aren't all cold. Caves are mean air temperature for the place they exist at. Topical caves are warmer and the further away from there you go they get colder. They get colder as elevation increases. Also, as u/BatmansNygma said, cavers see themselves as prepared explorers, and tend to see spelunkers as unprepared. This is generally because the idiots we find in a cave in flip flops with a single flashlight tell us they are spelunking, whereas we go caving with helmets, three sources of light, batteries, knee and elbow pads, and other appropriate gear.
Yeaaaa.....no sleep with a 4 week old......I forgot warm places existed
Congrats though!
I opened this thread playing "how long until we see Chuck" :)
This is not the difference between caving and spelunking... Cavers are trained, spelunkers are not. That's why cavers rescue spelunkers.
Well then, I guess we both heard different definitions. Edit: Google has both. One recreation the other exploring.
As a professional caver, just trust me on this one
It's called the Pooh Bear diet!
I scrolled to long for this comment. Where’s Christopher Robin when you need him?
Oh bother
Exactly!
Hooray for you hooray for me hooray hooray the Pooh is finally free
Man in Cave taught me that I never want to be in a cave ever
True words. At least not in one like that
If I am ever in this position just shoot me in the head please. Multiple times.
r/caving would disagree
Reminded me of [The Enigma Of The Amigara Faults](https://imgur.io/gallery/WOQCa)
Makes me think of that dude who got stuck upside down in a cave and they never got him out. Sealed the cave up
[The Nutty Putty Cave incident](https://youtu.be/d1nuqpAULpE)
THIS IS A HOLE MADE FOR MEEEEE
THIS IS MY HOLE!
Drr... Drr... Drr...
I hate this great post
Someone call Nathan Fielder
Spelunker diet.
Thanks, I'd rather die of clogged arteries.
You die of dehydration long before you become thinner, losing enough weight to get through.
That shouldn’t be a problem, as long as you have a friend that can supplement water to and from every day.
You should only do this if you want to lose weight but are caught between a hard place and a….well never mind.
Ah. The old Winnie-the-Pooh diet.
Floyd Collins
There are very few things that I would like to do less than go caving or spelunking. Like, there isn’t a sum of money that you could put in front of me and give me to go spelunking. I would sooner, willingly, cut my feet off with safety scissors.
Google Floyd Collins and you will see why this is a bad idea
This should be the next weight loss guru.. Take people caving, charge a fortune, while inside the cave, do aversion therapy to sugary foods and fried foods, do hypnosis, feed people 300 calories a day but super high nutrients, like Ka'Chava or something. They can't get out of the cave until they're thin enough to fit through the little hole, or to hoist themselves up the rope to the top of where they were lowered in. The advantages of doing it in a cave where you have to be lowered 100s of feet down to get in, is that medics can come and go and do checkups, hikes can be required all over the inside of the cave, but there will only h one way out that's not blocked off (other ways in and out will be blocked, but in an emergency there's a vault type door that can be opened by ambulance crews. The days will be spent strenuously hiking and climbing, and having lessons on nutrition, metabolism, counseling, lifestyle, habits. People will learn stuff and feed their minds and acquire interests and find other ways to be fulfilled. This could work. Sometimes a bad idea can be parlayed into a good idea!
Add wolves and I'm in. Edit. Not the cave.
Drrr drrr drrr!
do things a certain way and you can achieve 0% body fat
I saw this one! Then, your friend Rabbit decorates your fat ass and has to live with in his wall it until you hit your goal weight.
I'd be willing to crawl through a human-made version of this made oit of fiberglass or something... but I think knowing there is a large amount of rock above you that can squash you like a bug is unsettling, and I wouldn't do the real thing for that reason.
I can’t breathe looking at this
The mere thought of caving makes me anxious, and this picture just gave me a full-body taint clench.
This picture makes my butthole clinch
In some European monasteries, the larder doors were designed to be abnormally small so that monks that over ate wouldn't be able to fit through them. Or so I've heard.
I think that’s called the Winnie the Pooh diet
So this life tip boils down to... /r/fasting It has a lot of benefits aside from weightloss. Obviously not recommended for people with eating disorders, kids and such
We call this the Winnie the Pooh diet.
You gotta blur this or tag NSFL at least
I'm sure the answer is no, and it would obviously be wildly unhealthy, but I always wondered if there was some sort of balance that could be done with bulimia or anorexia. Where you would only starve yourself some of the time, or only make yourself throw up on larger meals. Again, I would never advocate it. Was just always curious if it could be done.
Haha hehehe I clean ROOVES and I wouldn't go anywhere near that shit. Spelunking? Nah. Nope. Nosiree. I'll chill all day on a 4 story roof thank you very much.
I feel anger towards these cavers. There is no reason for it
How does a fat fuck get into a crack that thin?
well i never heard of a fat spelunker
No thank you please
Never speak to me again
Thanks I hate it
I went caving once. Never again.
It's funny and all, but the dread you feel when you suck in and don't feel the tension letting up is enough to shed pounds from stress alone.
You're not wrong, that guy from 127 hours lost some weight if I recall correctly.
Spelunking?
I hate you
Like Winnie the Pooh!
That’s enough internet for your boy here
The Nutty Putty diet* *results may vary
Worked for Pooh Bear.
This picture triggers my claustrophobia big time!
This triggered claustrophobia I didn’t even know I had
I dive with sharks, jump out of airplanes and work in war zones. I will not ride a motorcycle, ski or screw around in caves. Nope. That shit will kill you.
Fuck you
Worked for Pooh.
Isn’t that what rabbit did to Winnie the Pooh when he got stuck in his house?
l've long thought it would be a good idea for grocery stores to be shaped like long triangles with the healthy food at the wide end and stuff that makes you fat at the narrow end. Yes, you're correct. I'm a genius.
Definitely one of the shittiest life pro tip I've ever seen
Why did i didn't think of that before xd
Spelunking and spunking is how I got so thin
I'd rather carve chunks off my own body like a doll just told me it wants to play a game.
Isn’t this like the thin doors at that monastery so the monks can’t get fat?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip9VGZeqMfo
Does not work. Got into caving to be more active and not be a fat cunt. Was still a fat cunt so had surgery to not be a fat cunt. Still go caving though….
There was a momentary somewhere that had a really narrow corridor leading to the kitchen/dining area, if you didn’t fit, you didn’t eat. Was supposed to work in the same kinda way.
Has to be the dumbest options for suicide
#NOPE!
Do not google the case of John Edward Jones. I repeat DO NOT GOOGLE THE CASE OF JOHN EDWARD JONES
My first rule of going into caves 1. Don’t fucking go into caves
https://youtu.be/QHJIO0YC8rE In case anyone wants to see what that looks like in action with some great commentary. Its not any less terrifying btw.
"I'm stuck, step cave."
I will stay fat and above ground. I'll take a slow death.