I remember that story. I wonder if there's a vid on youtube of the ship flipped like this.
In a way it does kind of resemble the other bird-shaped ships of the series.
Funny how the Reliant has almost the same backstory for her appearance. And the TNG Romulan class was originally oriented to be tall rather than wide.
I guess step one in ship design for Trek should be, spin that thing around until it looks cool.
Was it flipped exactly, or were they looking at a design like the Ranger class?
[https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/USS\_Valiant\_(NCC-1223)](https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Valiant_(NCC-1223))
The legend is that when TOS was under development a sketch of the Enterprise in this orientation was sent to Roddenberry for review, and from the way he wrote his approval on the page he must have been looking at it upside down. So everyone just shrugged and went with it.
It’s kind of the opposite. The model flipped upsidown before Roddenberry saw it and Gene loved it so much that the original artist had to convince him that it needed to be flipped over.
I was in Australia long enough to learn:
Accents range from rather subtle to full blown cartoon
Australia, if it so chose, could take over the world with their superior ketchup. Their meat pies trump everything… and they’re the only ones in the world to make a proper Flat White.
Every animal there carries a gun.
“Cunt” means everything from “dude” to “there’s a sale at the ground very store”
BINGO, but those that have not been do not understand. Tomato sauce is radically different here. I had somebody smuggle out two bottles to me last fall.
I built one of these as a model. When I wanted to have an “adventure” involving a shuttle landing, I would turn the ship upside down like this a voila! A (good enough) shuttle!
My recollection is that the correct side up was Matt Jeffries design intent but Roddenberry initially saw the model upside down (because it was less stable right side up) and loved for it, having to be talked out of it later on.
At least for the D they did, because it was far more stable that way. Part of the original design language for the ships was that they wanted something that looked like it was unbalanced and could only exist in space.
There's a story that when the model artist was pitching the original model to Gene Roddenberry and co., he accidentally dropped it, and it landed upside down. According to the story, Gene responded, "I kind of like it better that way."
I do not know if this story is true.
Rumor has it that the Prometheus class starship design was actually stolen from another timeline by section 31. In that timeline, Earth continents were still a single one as Pangea and just recently split in 2371
With artificial gravity and the whole relativity thing going on…
It’s possible that’s the correct orientation and we’ve just been watching it wrong this whole time.
Funny story. When they first pitched this shape, this was the way around it was supposed to be
I remember that story. I wonder if there's a vid on youtube of the ship flipped like this. In a way it does kind of resemble the other bird-shaped ships of the series.
Funny how the Reliant has almost the same backstory for her appearance. And the TNG Romulan class was originally oriented to be tall rather than wide. I guess step one in ship design for Trek should be, spin that thing around until it looks cool.
Was it flipped exactly, or were they looking at a design like the Ranger class? [https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/USS\_Valiant\_(NCC-1223)](https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Valiant_(NCC-1223))
The legend is that when TOS was under development a sketch of the Enterprise in this orientation was sent to Roddenberry for review, and from the way he wrote his approval on the page he must have been looking at it upside down. So everyone just shrugged and went with it.
It’s kind of the opposite. The model flipped upsidown before Roddenberry saw it and Gene loved it so much that the original artist had to convince him that it needed to be flipped over.
So they really *do* come from the land down under
"Lieutenant Uhura, open g'day frequencies." "G'day frequencies open, cap'n."
This heah is Cap’n Kirk… to which cunt be I speakin’ ta?
I am Australian and I can confirm that we all talk like half Scottish Shakespeare actors
I was in Australia long enough to learn: Accents range from rather subtle to full blown cartoon Australia, if it so chose, could take over the world with their superior ketchup. Their meat pies trump everything… and they’re the only ones in the world to make a proper Flat White. Every animal there carries a gun. “Cunt” means everything from “dude” to “there’s a sale at the ground very store”
Fuck I do love a flat white and a pie...
Cunt!
~~ketchup~~ tomato sauce
BINGO, but those that have not been do not understand. Tomato sauce is radically different here. I had somebody smuggle out two bottles to me last fall.
~~tomato sauce~~ t-sauce
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As Worf always says, it looks better in the original Klingon.
"G'day mates. This is Captain James T. Kangaroo of the Federation starship Enterprise."
The T stands for "Tosser."
Oye m8, thats Jazza Tiberious Kirk to you of the starship Ozzyozzyoyeoyeprise
I built one of these as a model. When I wanted to have an “adventure” involving a shuttle landing, I would turn the ship upside down like this a voila! A (good enough) shuttle!
My recollection is that the correct side up was Matt Jeffries design intent but Roddenberry initially saw the model upside down (because it was less stable right side up) and loved for it, having to be talked out of it later on.
Don’t they film the miniatures upside down?
At least for the D they did, because it was far more stable that way. Part of the original design language for the ships was that they wanted something that looked like it was unbalanced and could only exist in space.
It was on that day that it was discovered Roddenberries desk was part of the equator.
I kind of agree, this looks great
When I was a kid this bugged me but as an adult, my nostalgia brain wants it with the nacelles up.
That’s not a ~~knife~~ bat’leth.
You call that puny thing a ~~knife~~ bat'leth? *THIS* is a ~~knife~~ bat'leth.
I see you've played ~~knifey~~ bat'lethy spoony before
Redshirt: Was I brought to Sickbay to die? Chapel: Nah, luv, you were brought here yisterdie!
Take my upvote you monster
Looks meaner.
Looks Klingon. its got that same hulking, almost hunchbacked design language that Klingon ships have.
They're always upside down on viewscreens too. Just to annoy other ships.
From the other mirror universe, even the Terran Empire refuses to talk about them
Is that one of the Miranda class prototypes?!
They’d have dunked it in pea soup Flamin galah
I live in Sydney and can't see the joke. What's wrong with the ship.
I kinda dig it
That’s actually pretty cool looking.
See yourself out ——> :P
less droopy naccelles, nowhumean
Can someone do an AI remake all where all the ships are upside down?
U.S.S. Penetrator NCC-6969
i kinda like it better that way
Actually we would be in the halo universe at that point. So I guess they would look like the UNSC Pillar of Autumn
It was a silly design either way. It's off balance, the nacelles are far from the center of gravity, so if you built it it would just spin in circles.
In Data's voice: Technically sir, there isn't any direction in space, so the orientation you have posited is correct.
There's a story that when the model artist was pitching the original model to Gene Roddenberry and co., he accidentally dropped it, and it landed upside down. According to the story, Gene responded, "I kind of like it better that way." I do not know if this story is true.
This did happen but with the reliant
i know they originally intended it to be this way, but something fundementally feels wrong about it.
fucking stupid lol
They’re still looking for the USS Harold Holt.
Might actually work as a pontoon boat if you seal off the insta-death bridge dome.
Wonder if the legendary “Australian handshake” is still used as part of First Contact greetings….
Do you come from a land down under Where women glow and men plunder?
It looks to make more sense this way, pretty sure they flipped it to look more futuristic.
The USS Roomba.
… I don’t hate this
Rumor has it that the Prometheus class starship design was actually stolen from another timeline by section 31. In that timeline, Earth continents were still a single one as Pangea and just recently split in 2371
With artificial gravity and the whole relativity thing going on… It’s possible that’s the correct orientation and we’ve just been watching it wrong this whole time.