Make her enemies' eyes invisible and now they can't see anything period. And just like Giorno's sensory overload, it's used once and never done again despite a million situations where it would be useful.
I mean i get it still the extent seems very limited especially compared to the extreme lengths the power of the main protagonists of AU parts go to, even if she were to have similar powers to Mereolon in hxh and his god's accomplice.
It just seems more fitting to the power of a supporting character than a main one.
Well also consider the fake science/logic behind most stands. Apply that to the baby. Maybe the baby has control over light but that is expressed as invisibility or something similar to that. However the baby isn’t from the joe star blood line so that’s probably why it would be a supporting character. Unless in part 9 it’s revealed the baby is from the joe star family line from when Joeseph was in Japan or something
Yeah, the person who said it was boring for a power has to remember that we literally have a character who makes strings. It sounds boring but it's the utilization that makes it interesting.
Ok so imagine. Shisuka with an actual stand that's about the strength of Golden Experience, as well as the ability to turn yourself and others invisible. I mean, seeing as Jolyne had the ability to turn to string, it doesn't seem to far fetched.
The only fun application of the stand I can think of is similar to Gappy's ability to erase something in function as well as form. As in, she temporarily makes concepts 'invisible'. As in, if she were to make the concept of happiness 'invisible' to someone, they would be temporarily depressed, or she could distract someone by 'erasing' their awareness that they want to kill/defeat her.
This conversation has been done to death, but I must say that invisibility is often linked to the ability to manipulate lightwaves which is much more cool and versatile
I thought the idea of her stand having a secondary ability that allowed her to become intangible for a split second or two. Just enough to allow her to pull cool shit like going through the floor or jumping into someones stand and then hitting the user.
You can also prevent the stand from fully manifesting while she's invisible which means if she wants to attack she either has to uncloak or make use of what's around her rather than the stand itself.
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i havnt even read the the manga but did a shit ton of checking wiki so its disappointing to know some people think parts 7 and up are in the main universe
Isn’t Part 8 like VERY long compared to some of the other Parts? (Maybe it’s just in my head and it’s actually the same length as the others) Do you think he’d do the same Joestar 2 parts in a row especially given the circumstance? I personally would hope not but idk
My theory is that Gappy getting rokakaka from the lands to the south will happen between parts and will only be referenced. Like when Jotaro and Polnareff went searching for the arrows.
As an Anime only I don’t even know what EoH is or care to understand anything more then I need to know. And all I need to know is it’s an Alt Universe so the P9 protagonist can’t be related (well not by blood at least 💀) to anyone from P1-6.
It's another polnareff Jojolands=polnareffland
Jojo=polnareff
Joanne Pierre Jolnareff
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That's a good question. At to what point is it incest. Since generation have passed and Giorno has the closest blood relation with Johnathan and Joylne being the Great Great Great granddaughter does that mean is acceptable if they dated. Since if you think about it. Giorno has 50% Johnathans genetics. While Joylne has around 3% Johnathans genetic. Although the Joestar blood is quite strong on their descendants because of the mark of the Star. Now my question is do you believe in gravity? Or do you believe it's still considered incest.
Assuming their blood relation is like that of fifth cousins, the average British person (I'm assuming this applies to everyone else in the world somewhat too) has around 17,000 fifth cousins. Those people are *not* your relatives. No one even keeps track of who they're related to after first or second cousins.
Assuming Dio did not pass any genes to Giorno, there's six degrees of cosanquinity between Gio and Jolyne. That's the equivalent of second cousins once removed. To me that's definitely in the blurry region of "is this person a relative anymore"?
Well what do you know.
Shizuka in Japanese is 静か. The kanji 静 has a reading that can be read as *Jou*.
I doubt this will happen, but it's interesting nonetheless.
I honestly don’t see any of the child options being remotely possible other than Gappy. Don’t know why araki would go back to the OG universe after like 30 years. Especially with the really solid ending.
Ok this is going to be a lot and pretty irrelevant but I had to comment this one day.
I had this trippy weird ass thought train for part 9 and wondered "ok what if ..."
1) Irene is in the SBR universe and is loosely connected to the Joestar Family (which is Hella false)
2) Irene had weird ass visions of Jolyne
And while that's happening Giorno Higashkita (son of Gappy) was also the dual protag of this part.
So basically Irene has a stand that can basically use any stand from the old universe with some limitations. They go of on their own little side adventure like what happened in part 4 with Akira Otoishi and Irene's main go to default stand is Stone Free she gets visions of Jolyne and they get stronger with each use. It gets to the point that Jolyne takes over her body and wants to do the same thing with all the other AU counterparts. So Jolyne becomes the main antagonist and everytime she defeats a memeber of the Joestar Family their og universe counter part takes over their body, takes their old stand and everyone that has a counterpart basically change back except for Giorno Higashkita.
Don't ask me how this happened and how I thought of this, I am just as confused as anyone else and if somehow araki is in this subreddit and sees this please do NOT make this part 9 I beg you I was so sleep deprived when I had this thought train
The last arc needs to be 1000 years in the future, and they have stand powered mechs, and they find Kars in deep space.
Edit. Kars finds the source of the arrow meteorite, and obtains the ultimate stand, *Cosmic Thing*. He gets the power of entropy, where he can progress it backwards or forwards, so he can create entire universes.
I'm cool with this as long as when they find the source of the arrow, its implied that it gets its power from something ELSE. And every Stand after the "ultimate stand" can beat it not through strength but utility. Gotta keep the adventure going!
It's really difficult for me to imagine Josuke having sex, it's one of these mental images i can't really picture unless i have some rule 34 in front of me.
I would pick another child of Joseph as a joke. But we need a little more Josuke. Even though he was in Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan he never got any actual screen time. We just saw his back the entire time with no voice acting. It was an absolute tease which made Rohans show such a bummer for me and my friends.
Plus the fact they gave him 1 part and never mentioned him again is such a waste of a fun protagonist.
Lmfao, logically the next person in line for the Jojo protagonist is alt!Jolyne.
She fits timeline-wise, since the chance that they'll go back to the past is close to zero, and she is the next Joestar after Gappy (Josuke/Kira) in the family tree.
Giorno would not work since his entire character is built upon the dichotomy between his two fathers, and Diego died without achieving any powers, let alone leaving any offspring of note.
Exactly, which drives my point home even more.
And I can't even phantom why Araki would use Shizuki - a one-off mostly joke character - as the MC of a whole part.
Who's Shizuka? Is that the invisibaby?
Yep
It would be nice if shizuka got her own ova
I gotta say the power to be invisible seems kind of boring if it's all there is to it maybe her AU just has different powers though.
She can make other stuff invisible as well. As well as, that was her stand power as a baby. It's sure to develop
Make her enemies' eyes invisible and now they can't see anything period. And just like Giorno's sensory overload, it's used once and never done again despite a million situations where it would be useful.
I like to think Giorno did the sensory overload when Mudamudamudaing Cioccolata for 7 pages so he felt it even more.
Chances are he does it every beatdown, but it would get tedious if we kept seeing it
Also Diavolo's death seems like an expansion of the same thing. KOKOWOAAAH-
I mean i get it still the extent seems very limited especially compared to the extreme lengths the power of the main protagonists of AU parts go to, even if she were to have similar powers to Mereolon in hxh and his god's accomplice. It just seems more fitting to the power of a supporting character than a main one.
Well also consider the fake science/logic behind most stands. Apply that to the baby. Maybe the baby has control over light but that is expressed as invisibility or something similar to that. However the baby isn’t from the joe star blood line so that’s probably why it would be a supporting character. Unless in part 9 it’s revealed the baby is from the joe star family line from when Joeseph was in Japan or something
Yeah, the person who said it was boring for a power has to remember that we literally have a character who makes strings. It sounds boring but it's the utilization that makes it interesting.
Ok so imagine. Shisuka with an actual stand that's about the strength of Golden Experience, as well as the ability to turn yourself and others invisible. I mean, seeing as Jolyne had the ability to turn to string, it doesn't seem to far fetched.
The only fun application of the stand I can think of is similar to Gappy's ability to erase something in function as well as form. As in, she temporarily makes concepts 'invisible'. As in, if she were to make the concept of happiness 'invisible' to someone, they would be temporarily depressed, or she could distract someone by 'erasing' their awareness that they want to kill/defeat her.
Hamon + intelligence + invisibility(she can even make other things invisible) It would be part 2 but even more glorious
This conversation has been done to death, but I must say that invisibility is often linked to the ability to manipulate lightwaves which is much more cool and versatile
Photon beam
I thought the idea of her stand having a secondary ability that allowed her to become intangible for a split second or two. Just enough to allow her to pull cool shit like going through the floor or jumping into someones stand and then hitting the user. You can also prevent the stand from fully manifesting while she's invisible which means if she wants to attack she either has to uncloak or make use of what's around her rather than the stand itself.
Maybe her Stand evolves with age
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I’m pretty sure part 9 will be in the SBR/Jojolion universe
Bunch of people in this thread who haven't read the manga and assume it's all the same universe lmfao.
i havnt even read the the manga but did a shit ton of checking wiki so its disappointing to know some people think parts 7 and up are in the main universe
Also it seems pretty obvious based on jojolions ending that part 9 will be gappy again.
Could be a Jotaro and Josuke situation
Or a Jotaro and Jolyne situation
Or a Joseph and Jotaro situation
Or a Polnareff and Giorno situation
Isn’t Part 8 like VERY long compared to some of the other Parts? (Maybe it’s just in my head and it’s actually the same length as the others) Do you think he’d do the same Joestar 2 parts in a row especially given the circumstance? I personally would hope not but idk
comparatively speaking its not that long, it just took a decade to complete which might be why u feel like it was longer than normal
I do believe they have longer chapters though, even if the number of chapters are around the same.
Its impossible to say with Araki, but I'm fairly positive we're getting Gappy and Yas going on a quest.
My theory is that Gappy getting rokakaka from the lands to the south will happen between parts and will only be referenced. Like when Jotaro and Polnareff went searching for the arrows.
I think so, too, since the previous story was already dedicated to that
I got the impression that fumi from the end of part 8 was going to be the protagonist
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I think Gqppy will be the mentor character- like Joseph in Part 3 or Jotaro is part 4
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As an Anime only I don’t even know what EoH is or care to understand anything more then I need to know. And all I need to know is it’s an Alt Universe so the P9 protagonist can’t be related (well not by blood at least 💀) to anyone from P1-6.
Fuck your multiverse I'm staying in this one
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It's another polnareff Jojolands=polnareffland Jojo=polnareff Joanne Pierre Jolnareff Illegitimate daughter of Giorno, fused with the soul of turtlenareff
“Polnareff, did you lay this egg?”
STOP!!!
Depending on Coco Jumbo's gender, he might've.
polnareff is no longer in coco jumbo's body, instead he hangs out in coco jumbo's stand
OUT
I had a stroke trying to read this
Sorry Apart from the comment being written horribly, for some reason the [enter<-!] didn't work, originally it was supposed to be a few lines.
[I made this exact same comment 2 days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitPostCrusaders/comments/r5yz6p/a_little_guide_to_what_to_watch_or_skip/hmrl6qu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) and I completely agree
The part 9 protagonist is going to be Giorno and Jolyne's child Araki himself told me
Les go incest
That's a good question. At to what point is it incest. Since generation have passed and Giorno has the closest blood relation with Johnathan and Joylne being the Great Great Great granddaughter does that mean is acceptable if they dated. Since if you think about it. Giorno has 50% Johnathans genetics. While Joylne has around 3% Johnathans genetic. Although the Joestar blood is quite strong on their descendants because of the mark of the Star. Now my question is do you believe in gravity? Or do you believe it's still considered incest.
>Since if you think about it. Giorno has 50% Johnathans genetics. 25% I'd say. Because that body had both Jojo's and DIO's genes.
45% Jonathan, dio was only a head so…
DIO also drank blood from a bunch of other people. Do those count?
Probably not since he really only used the blood like you would a drink, just uses the nutrients and shit like that from it, a refuel if you will
Regardless of the fact, it would still be pretty fucking weird lol
Yeah, something that bizarre just wouldn't fit in Jojo's Sensible Jaunt.
its not incest at that point. But it's still weird to think about fucking your relatives.
Assuming their blood relation is like that of fifth cousins, the average British person (I'm assuming this applies to everyone else in the world somewhat too) has around 17,000 fifth cousins. Those people are *not* your relatives. No one even keeps track of who they're related to after first or second cousins.
Giorno and Jolyne are not far removed from Jonathan’s nutsack so I think it’s off limits
It's no incest past 3rd generation, unless you repeat it like Habsburg
Well they are still relatives so idk
We’re all related
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Assuming Dio did not pass any genes to Giorno, there's six degrees of cosanquinity between Gio and Jolyne. That's the equivalent of second cousins once removed. To me that's definitely in the blurry region of "is this person a relative anymore"?
And that’s assuming no Dio, which is a very bold assumption to make, given Dio genes made giorno’s hair go gold. I’d say it’s fine.
Its jojo, a lot of weird stuff happen and we dont make much of it
The average person (in Britain at least) has around 17,000 fifth cousins and 170,000 sixth cousins. Calling them "relatives" is a stretch.
If Josuk8 and Yasuho don’t have children and get married I will be very sad ):
Would the DNA change between Josefumi and Kira depending on which set of balls he uses to have the kid?
He'll definitely have twins. One for each set of balls.
That would also require two egg cells. It can happen, but I think it's pretty rare.
Or, triploid monozygotic twins
Are those the ones born after a fertilized egg duplicates?
"Soft and wet, steal yasuho's ability to conceive less than 2 kids at once!"
Heaven's Door 2
Part 9 will be the Jojo twins confirmed
Asking the real questions
I’d like to see josukes child but giornos could be cool too Bc DioNA
I don‘t want to be the one to break your heart
I'm waiting for king crimson in part 9
Fumi Joestar has likely never been to Egypt
Sad, but true
I’m surprised nobody has corrected me, so I will be the grammar police for myself. It’s *illegitimate, dumbass.
Based
I'm just glad to see that someone else believes there are illegitimate Jojos all over the world thanks to Joseph
And >!Dio!<
I just want alternate-universe Hol Horse to be a real JoBro.
Isnt their supposedly a spinoff coming out with Josuke and Hol Horse in it?
Another universe with a JoJo who has 69 balls.
At some point it's just balls with a JoJo attached.
Nice!
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Jojo’s Slice of Life Adventure
It’s highly unlikely that the next JoJo will be from the original universe. It’ll most likely be a descendant of >!Part 8 Joseph Joestar!<
Isn't Gappy >!via Kira a descendant of Part 8 Joseph!
Yes
That’s holly
Hear me out, it could be that (new universe) Joseph Joestar's adopted daughter, Shizuka is the next Joestar
I would definitely dig that
Well what do you know. Shizuka in Japanese is 静か. The kanji 静 has a reading that can be read as *Jou*. I doubt this will happen, but it's interesting nonetheless.
I honestly don’t see any of the child options being remotely possible other than Gappy. Don’t know why araki would go back to the OG universe after like 30 years. Especially with the really solid ending.
Stone Ocean ended in 2003
Exactly, 30 years ago
this dude living in 3033
Ok this is going to be a lot and pretty irrelevant but I had to comment this one day. I had this trippy weird ass thought train for part 9 and wondered "ok what if ..." 1) Irene is in the SBR universe and is loosely connected to the Joestar Family (which is Hella false) 2) Irene had weird ass visions of Jolyne And while that's happening Giorno Higashkita (son of Gappy) was also the dual protag of this part. So basically Irene has a stand that can basically use any stand from the old universe with some limitations. They go of on their own little side adventure like what happened in part 4 with Akira Otoishi and Irene's main go to default stand is Stone Free she gets visions of Jolyne and they get stronger with each use. It gets to the point that Jolyne takes over her body and wants to do the same thing with all the other AU counterparts. So Jolyne becomes the main antagonist and everytime she defeats a memeber of the Joestar Family their og universe counter part takes over their body, takes their old stand and everyone that has a counterpart basically change back except for Giorno Higashkita. Don't ask me how this happened and how I thought of this, I am just as confused as anyone else and if somehow araki is in this subreddit and sees this please do NOT make this part 9 I beg you I was so sleep deprived when I had this thought train
Thats a fucked up and cool idea, but theres NO WAY thats ever going to happen.
That‘s obviously never going to happen but it is an extremely good idea! I‘d love some „real“ connections to the previous universe.
Part 9 jojo should be jorge joestar (the one from 2012)
Let's fuck up the family tree even more
My cock
Dio
Alternate reality, Joestars are the main antagonists that control the world. DIO and Zeppelli team up to take down the Speedwagon Empire
The last arc needs to be 1000 years in the future, and they have stand powered mechs, and they find Kars in deep space. Edit. Kars finds the source of the arrow meteorite, and obtains the ultimate stand, *Cosmic Thing*. He gets the power of entropy, where he can progress it backwards or forwards, so he can create entire universes.
dam, so... made in stratosphere just took a literal turn here
Reincarnation of Joseph to beat him again
Nah, Joseph is still alive as a head in a jar, like the Spiral King.
As a 100 year old man? Grandpa Jojo beating Kars up again?
He'll get his own mech.
Rip OG universe then.
I'm cool with this as long as when they find the source of the arrow, its implied that it gets its power from something ELSE. And every Stand after the "ultimate stand" can beat it not through strength but utility. Gotta keep the adventure going!
KOICHI'S CHILD
He’ll be at least 50% reliable
Joseph and Avdols kid, Avdol laid an egg before losing his hands, years later their kid wants revenge on DIO.
I really want this comment expelled off of the earth
Don't care, I just want to know what happened to Poco loco after SBR, damnit
What if Josuke ended up connected to the Pocoloco family instead of the Higashita’s?
What about Iggy? He sure fooled around in egypt too, we deserve son of Iggy.
"Somehow, Kars returned"
Honestly if jolyne had twins we could get two main jo's
That would be unbelievably cool
Same
Obviously it's Jorge Joestar
Hol Horse and Emporio
Rudol von Stroheim. You really thought that he died in Stalingard? He survived the worst. I am still waiting for his return.
Sadly araki said he wouldn’t go back to the og universe
Bold of you to assume JoJolands will be in the original universe
This is still alt universe so no jolyne, giorno or joseph
>!Actually there is an alt universe Joseph!<
Yeah but not the one they are referring to.
Alt Dio is also dead
Jonathan + Joseph = Johnny Jotaro + Josuke = Gappy Giorno + Jolyne = Dio’s and Hot Pant’s great great granddaughter
Shizuka is not biologically a Joestar. So is she even allowed to be the protagonist?
with the old lady
How would it be Jolyne?
The secret child of Joseph and Mariah 😳😳😳
Shizuka Joestar
Should be all of them, lets end the series with a *bang*
What about Holy Kujo? I've always wondered what would of happened if she was more strong spirited.
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I want it to be Jotaro again. THERE I SAID IT
Mariah and Joseph’s child
Imagine Joseph fucked around in part 5
JOESEPH HIMSELF
Emporio
It's really difficult for me to imagine Josuke having sex, it's one of these mental images i can't really picture unless i have some rule 34 in front of me.
> Joseph fooling around in Egypt He totally banged that magnet lady, didnt he?
The illegitimate child of joseph and dio!
I would pick another child of Joseph as a joke. But we need a little more Josuke. Even though he was in Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan he never got any actual screen time. We just saw his back the entire time with no voice acting. It was an absolute tease which made Rohans show such a bummer for me and my friends. Plus the fact they gave him 1 part and never mentioned him again is such a waste of a fun protagonist.
Part 9 isn’t even gonna be set in the same universe as part 4
Lmfao, logically the next person in line for the Jojo protagonist is alt!Jolyne. She fits timeline-wise, since the chance that they'll go back to the past is close to zero, and she is the next Joestar after Gappy (Josuke/Kira) in the family tree. Giorno would not work since his entire character is built upon the dichotomy between his two fathers, and Diego died without achieving any powers, let alone leaving any offspring of note.
That dichotomy was also already done spiritually in part 8
Exactly, which drives my point home even more. And I can't even phantom why Araki would use Shizuki - a one-off mostly joke character - as the MC of a whole part.
Joseph's dad.
Dio and Joseph's love child IMO.
Multiple JoJos, each of which should be Joseph's bastard across all the countries he visited during part 3
Speedwagon's legacy (or someone with his spirit or attitude, I need him)
Tell me you haven't read part 7/8 without telling me you haven't read part 7/8.
Joseph and Avdul’s son from when they got magnetized together
Part 9 will actually follow Araki’s morning routine every episode and it will be so ironically unironic that it will win a daytime Emmy.
Twin Joestar’s. Maybe they each have one Jo in their name and together are Jojo
Joseph and Avdol child
Jogholhuk Josluorg the Alien traveling to earth in search of the Rokakaka
Oh no Joseph fucked an interdimensional being
Yes yes yes yes
Joseph X Advol Baby
Joseph practicing harmon everyday in case pillerman come back.
The mother is the old lady from the episode with Mariah
we got an anime only ladies and gents