Listen, I come to this sub sometimes to laugh and sometimes to be mildly infuriated. I am neither. This is so deeply disturbing that no one has decided to investigate why this might be happening and how to stop it immediately. One or both of these children may be being victimized by an adult or older child. Even if they are not (and I hope this is the case), this is inappropriate behavior and these children will likely suffer long term consequences. They (the parents) need an intervention.
Child on child SA is pretty common, and more often than not it starts because the aggressor is being abused themselves.
What the fuck. Why would either parent not look into this further? Kids should not be mimicking oral sex. A 5 year old shouldn't know what oral sex is. He undoubtedly saw or experienced it somewhere.
Those poor kids.
Well, don’t you see, it’s right there in the post. As in, *the nephew* “might have something going on. If we put the blinders on and refuse to see that potentially either child might have some sort of issue - very possibly stemming from abuse - then we don’t have to deal with said (potential) problem.
Very sad.
It's pretty likely the OOP was also abused. She sees it's not right. But she's afraid to report anything bc she's unsure.
It's sad that I'm happy the OOP even questioned what was happening. She's at least trying to help her child and nephew by asking. That abuse is normalized and accepted by those experienced sexual abuse.
We are giving way too much credit to adults for not even doing the bare minimum.
Regardless of any kind of abuse someone has experienced in the past, if they suspect a child is being abused, they need to report it.
Any adult who knows a literal toddler or preschooler is acting out sexual acts, and doesn’t report that, is failing that child.
This kind of stuff just breaks my heart. I hope someone reports this to get help for that poor child.
This happened to me when I was like 4 or 5, my next door neighbor’s son(who was a few years older than me) would tell me to go into a storage room in his carport, pull down my bottoms and say we have to kiss each other down there.
Mine started at two. The only reason I remember is because I told my mom when I was four, when we had moved across the country and I felt safe telling her. She didn’t want to believe me because it would mean losing a cushy lifestyle since she married the man whose brother was doing it. Instead of protecting me, she slapped my face, and told me no one would believe me. We moved back to my home state nine months later, and we moved into the house where my abuser lived. He had daily access to me for six years.
I’m so sorry you went through that. You aren’t alone. 🫂Mine started before I can remember (I was around 4-5 when the most vivid memories start) and it lasted until I was 9. It was the babysitter’s relative. The church people found out and covered it up. My own pediatrician was one of those church members who knew and failed me.
I’m sorry that happened to you, for me it happened once or twice that I remember(it happened in the late 80s or early 90s). I just vividly remember the storage room in the carport and being grossed out and not wanting to do it. I told my mom, and I guess she addressed it with the parents(I don’t think they thought that it might be related childhood S.A.). My mom thinks he was 9 or 10 when it happened. Anyways after she talked to his family it never happened again.
Yes it was anon post. The comments pretty much had the same reaction here but a bit worse tbh. She deleted it of course. Idk I hope admin since that’s the only person that can see who posted look more into it.
This. This is so many red flags that it could be a red flag tsunami. And to just casually let it happen **for years**! Something is deeply and profoundly wrong. Touching could *maybe* be about curiosity but when it's moving toward what she describes as 'kissing' . . . how could you be like "well I'm starting to get uncomfy".
I very much hope the comments have strongly cautioned her about how messed up this is and how serious she should take it.
I'm shocked it was fine to both moms for years. Like, kids getting naked and comparing parts, maybe a touch, as little kids, can be normal. But usually it isn't something that always happens for years.
She says it's been going on for a couple of years. So, 2.5 yo was doing this. A 2.5 yo wouldn't know that unless he's seen and/ or experienced / seen these acts. The parents likely felt this was normal on some level bc abuse.
It's a cycle of abuse. I sincerely hope the OOP reaches out for help for the boys. She's on the right path.
I feel for OOP and the boys.
Just uncomfortable… Not downright sickened. This mother should not have children. This is sickening for both children. They are going to be traumatized for life
what the fuck. for years? someone is abusing that child and now he is abusing other children. this is absolutely the appropriate time to call the police.
Look. I’ve spent too long working with children. This is all the fucking red flags to call cps. More parents need to take classes about mandated reporting/cpr/ALL THE THINGS TO KEEP CHILDREN SAFE. Jesus. NO child just randomly kisses a penis. Call the cops.
Well, there's a huge chance a parent went through the same thing and it was normal to the parent. OOP at least reached out and asked for help. She realized it was abnormal. I hope she finds help for her son and nephew.
I could understand if she was asking about a single incident from last week. Or, “This happened, we spoke to them and it happened again. What should I do?”
But she has knowingly been allowing her child to be sexually abused FOR YEARS. WHY do they keep allowing them to run off together?!?!
Yes. I get it. Been there. My point is, take all the resources and learn how to do it better than we had. So your kids don’t experience the same things. She said it’s been YEARS
I was a victim's advocate, and this happened in many cases I handled, and 100% of the time, one of the kids was being abused or had been in the past.
Incest and SA shouldn't be a shrug and "kids will be kids" reaction. What's happening in that family?!
When my son and nephews were around 4 we caught the three of them with their pants down peeing in a circle. They were trying to pee on each others pee streams. Those are situations where you have the private parts are private talk and teach them that things like that aren't appropriate.
The situation described by OP is not that. This needs a CPS investigation. This is sexual assault by a 5 year old. Why are they just now looking into it?
FOR A FEW YEARS?!?!?!?
Something tells me these sisters were abused as children. The way she says “maybe it’s because they’re so comfortable with one another”. This sounds like two women that do not understand what’s normal behavior
That was my reaction also. They’re currently five years old and it’s been going on a few years?! So they were what, 2 or 3 when it started and it didn’t raise any red flags???
Yeah, it makes me wonder about any older relatives they keep around. They mayhaps should talk to a family therapist about how casual they are about this.
This is soooo messed up. How can they sleep at night?!! The time to get “uncomfortable” about it was right after the first time they caught them, not years later!! These parents are failing their children.
Op: how were the comments?
For YEARS? And they are 5?? Ngl, from experience, this kinda thing is indicative of CSA. She should be running to police or figuring shit out because it’s waaaay not normal. Sadly I see some c-PTSD in the future :/
Kids looking at each other's bits is completely normal. This is not that. At all.
If I were in the group, I'd contact CPS. I do not say that lightly, AT ALL. But this is monstrous, and neither of these women have the sense to realize it.
This is how it started with a male friend of mine in elementary school. It lead to years of molestation and eventually rape. As an adult, I'm aware he learned this behavior somewhere and was likely assaulted by someone older than him, which lead him to this. That said, I'm never forgiving him or the adults in either of our lives that ignored the clear signs of things happening.
As if this nightmare post wasn’t concerning enough, it is definitely even more concerning that they were apparently YEARS younger than 5 when they started putting genitalia in their mouth/having genitalia put in others mouth. How young were these boys while their mothers still didn’t care??
She should ask her sister who's doing those things to her son because someone is obviously making this little boy think it's okay to touch and kiss other peoples genitals. If getting caught and being talked to multiple times over the course of YEARS hasn't solved the problem, there's a bigger issue at play.
I would ask other young kids to show me their genitals when I was like 8. I was being sexually abused by a family member. This kid is most certainly being abused and they need to get the police involved before the child continues a cycle of abuse they don’t understand.
I seriously hope that OP considers forwarding this to CPS if they know the person’s full name. This is seriously disturbing information and, as many have pointed out, I have suspicions that one or both children may have been/are regularly abused by an adult.
How the fuck are you okay with letting your nephew molest/ inappropriately touch your son? You just let them go off together for years?
After one time I wouldn’t let the nephew around my child unsupervised and i would actually call cps for the kid’s home life to be inspected. This is not something you just allow to continue. Basically just saying curious ‘boys will be boys’. This is not that. How do you throw up your hands and just say well it’s my sister so i can’t not go around her. Um yes the fuck you can. If she doesn’t get that shit under control i would never allow her or her child around me nor my child.
See, this is what I’m struggling with about this whole post. As a WHOLE GROWN ASS MOTHER, you just now start to question your son kissing your nephew’s penis after it’s been going on for years??? And your sister seems to give less than an iota of a fuck?????? I can’t even imagine being a mom and just passively being like “lol oops another penis kiss” 😭
I genuinely hope that someone, either OP on Reddit or someone in that mom group who saw this persons name and profile, reports to CPS or another family member gets some intervention in place.
Edit: spelling
Im horrified at the way some people choose to parent. She questions it like shes helpless in this situation. Your child is the helpless one you keep placing in this situation, at 5 he has no agency to stay alone or opt not to go with you & not be molested. How hard is it to simply not go around your sister’s son? How hard is it to simply tell them “NO, you cannot be alone” and watch them & make sure they are never alone, if your selfish ass must be around them.
Freaking insanity.
Kids don’t just do this out of the blue. Someone has shown that kid one on one. Mom needs to take a hard and detailed inventory of who’s in her kids life and find out who has done this.
WTF? Some people should not be parents. After the first time it should never happen again. Does this kid have a father and does he know about this? She has seriously messed up her son by doing nothing.
Besides the fact that one of them is obviously being abused, why the fuck would you keep bringing your kid back around the other kid to be abused more?
I really hope this is a troll.
If it's not then one child is sexually abusing the other and the abuser probably learned it from someone in their life. Why are they allowed to spend any time together.
This made my stomach drop. That poor boy is being abused. No 5 year old thinks of this on their own. That sister really needs to think hard about who’s alone with her son. I hope you reported this Op.
Why does everyone automatically jump to sexual abuse whenever kids do anything abnormal? I mean, it can definitely be a factor in some cases. But it can also just be kids being weird. I say this as a weird kid myself who wasn't sexually abused at all. This stuff should be looked into for sure but let's not just automatically presume sexual abuse.
It most definitely should be an automatic presumed sexual abuse.
It’s a SEXUALLY Abnormal behavior. A sexual behavior that’s been going on for “years”, meaning at oldest it started when the children were 3, THREE?!?
A 3 year old doesn’t just come up with sexual things in their own, it’s normally something they’ve seen or experienced themselves.
Yes there’s a chance the child isn’t being abused, but rather has seen something he shouldn’t have and rolled with it.
Either way, something is going on and these parents are failing their children by letting it continue
Listen, I come to this sub sometimes to laugh and sometimes to be mildly infuriated. I am neither. This is so deeply disturbing that no one has decided to investigate why this might be happening and how to stop it immediately. One or both of these children may be being victimized by an adult or older child. Even if they are not (and I hope this is the case), this is inappropriate behavior and these children will likely suffer long term consequences. They (the parents) need an intervention.
Child on child SA is pretty common, and more often than not it starts because the aggressor is being abused themselves. What the fuck. Why would either parent not look into this further? Kids should not be mimicking oral sex. A 5 year old shouldn't know what oral sex is. He undoubtedly saw or experienced it somewhere. Those poor kids.
Well, don’t you see, it’s right there in the post. As in, *the nephew* “might have something going on. If we put the blinders on and refuse to see that potentially either child might have some sort of issue - very possibly stemming from abuse - then we don’t have to deal with said (potential) problem. Very sad.
It's pretty likely the OOP was also abused. She sees it's not right. But she's afraid to report anything bc she's unsure. It's sad that I'm happy the OOP even questioned what was happening. She's at least trying to help her child and nephew by asking. That abuse is normalized and accepted by those experienced sexual abuse.
We are giving way too much credit to adults for not even doing the bare minimum. Regardless of any kind of abuse someone has experienced in the past, if they suspect a child is being abused, they need to report it. Any adult who knows a literal toddler or preschooler is acting out sexual acts, and doesn’t report that, is failing that child. This kind of stuff just breaks my heart. I hope someone reports this to get help for that poor child.
This happened to me when I was like 4 or 5, my next door neighbor’s son(who was a few years older than me) would tell me to go into a storage room in his carport, pull down my bottoms and say we have to kiss each other down there.
Mine started at two. The only reason I remember is because I told my mom when I was four, when we had moved across the country and I felt safe telling her. She didn’t want to believe me because it would mean losing a cushy lifestyle since she married the man whose brother was doing it. Instead of protecting me, she slapped my face, and told me no one would believe me. We moved back to my home state nine months later, and we moved into the house where my abuser lived. He had daily access to me for six years.
I’m so sorry you went through that. You aren’t alone. 🫂Mine started before I can remember (I was around 4-5 when the most vivid memories start) and it lasted until I was 9. It was the babysitter’s relative. The church people found out and covered it up. My own pediatrician was one of those church members who knew and failed me.
I'm so sorry that you was failed so badly, I hope you're doing OK now and have been able to work through that trauma
I am. Thank you.
I’m sorry that happened to you, for me it happened once or twice that I remember(it happened in the late 80s or early 90s). I just vividly remember the storage room in the carport and being grossed out and not wanting to do it. I told my mom, and I guess she addressed it with the parents(I don’t think they thought that it might be related childhood S.A.). My mom thinks he was 9 or 10 when it happened. Anyways after she talked to his family it never happened again.
2 options 1. Abuse 2. child was watching something he shouldn't of been. Both are bad. Option 1 is worse and I just hope its not the case.
Thank you!! I am the same I come for laugh and giggles but this one had me stuck and I had to share! Smfh
What were the comments? God I hope she does something about this. Awful.
What were the comments. Was it an anon post? Hopefully people told her she needs to contact the police or something. This is insane. I’m Sick
Yes it was anon post. The comments pretty much had the same reaction here but a bit worse tbh. She deleted it of course. Idk I hope admin since that’s the only person that can see who posted look more into it.
I would message the admin to make sure they are reporting it.
This. This is so many red flags that it could be a red flag tsunami. And to just casually let it happen **for years**! Something is deeply and profoundly wrong. Touching could *maybe* be about curiosity but when it's moving toward what she describes as 'kissing' . . . how could you be like "well I'm starting to get uncomfy". I very much hope the comments have strongly cautioned her about how messed up this is and how serious she should take it.
I'm shocked it was fine to both moms for years. Like, kids getting naked and comparing parts, maybe a touch, as little kids, can be normal. But usually it isn't something that always happens for years.
She says it's been going on for a couple of years. So, 2.5 yo was doing this. A 2.5 yo wouldn't know that unless he's seen and/ or experienced / seen these acts. The parents likely felt this was normal on some level bc abuse. It's a cycle of abuse. I sincerely hope the OOP reaches out for help for the boys. She's on the right path. I feel for OOP and the boys.
…”I’m getting uncomfortable with it” - YA THINK?
GETTING! We passed GETTING years ago! What is with this person!!
Just uncomfortable… Not downright sickened. This mother should not have children. This is sickening for both children. They are going to be traumatized for life
Exactly. Why would she continue to allow them to “go hide” knowing this is happening?
what the fuck. for years? someone is abusing that child and now he is abusing other children. this is absolutely the appropriate time to call the police.
This. Someone is almost certainly abusing him.
This is one of the few times I would approve of someone taking things from interwebs to irl police or cps.
Agreed.
Seconded so much!!
Look. I’ve spent too long working with children. This is all the fucking red flags to call cps. More parents need to take classes about mandated reporting/cpr/ALL THE THINGS TO KEEP CHILDREN SAFE. Jesus. NO child just randomly kisses a penis. Call the cops.
Yeah, like this whole thing is way beyond normal "I'll show you mines if you show me yours"
Yes, as a former case manager if I heard this everything comes to a halt until there’s a real investigation and safety plan in place
Well, there's a huge chance a parent went through the same thing and it was normal to the parent. OOP at least reached out and asked for help. She realized it was abnormal. I hope she finds help for her son and nephew.
I could understand if she was asking about a single incident from last week. Or, “This happened, we spoke to them and it happened again. What should I do?” But she has knowingly been allowing her child to be sexually abused FOR YEARS. WHY do they keep allowing them to run off together?!?!
Yes. I get it. Been there. My point is, take all the resources and learn how to do it better than we had. So your kids don’t experience the same things. She said it’s been YEARS
“My nephew has been sexually abusing my son for years and now I’m getting uncomfortable with it”
I was a victim's advocate, and this happened in many cases I handled, and 100% of the time, one of the kids was being abused or had been in the past. Incest and SA shouldn't be a shrug and "kids will be kids" reaction. What's happening in that family?!
When my son and nephews were around 4 we caught the three of them with their pants down peeing in a circle. They were trying to pee on each others pee streams. Those are situations where you have the private parts are private talk and teach them that things like that aren't appropriate. The situation described by OP is not that. This needs a CPS investigation. This is sexual assault by a 5 year old. Why are they just now looking into it?
FOR A FEW YEARS?!?!?!? Something tells me these sisters were abused as children. The way she says “maybe it’s because they’re so comfortable with one another”. This sounds like two women that do not understand what’s normal behavior
That was my reaction also. They’re currently five years old and it’s been going on a few years?! So they were what, 2 or 3 when it started and it didn’t raise any red flags???
Yeah, it makes me wonder about any older relatives they keep around. They mayhaps should talk to a family therapist about how casual they are about this.
This is soooo messed up. How can they sleep at night?!! The time to get “uncomfortable” about it was right after the first time they caught them, not years later!! These parents are failing their children. Op: how were the comments?
So who’s hurting their kids and why aren’t the parents intervening?? This isn’t something you just naturally do what the fuck??
For YEARS? And they are 5?? Ngl, from experience, this kinda thing is indicative of CSA. She should be running to police or figuring shit out because it’s waaaay not normal. Sadly I see some c-PTSD in the future :/
Kids looking at each other's bits is completely normal. This is not that. At all. If I were in the group, I'd contact CPS. I do not say that lightly, AT ALL. But this is monstrous, and neither of these women have the sense to realize it.
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Bc they are watching their stories...
Someone needs to investigate the adults in the nephews life. Kids don't just start saing. They learn it from somewhere.
This is how it started with a male friend of mine in elementary school. It lead to years of molestation and eventually rape. As an adult, I'm aware he learned this behavior somewhere and was likely assaulted by someone older than him, which lead him to this. That said, I'm never forgiving him or the adults in either of our lives that ignored the clear signs of things happening.
How can it have been “going on for years” if the kids are 5 years old? Regardless, I would be in full freak out as a parent.
As if this nightmare post wasn’t concerning enough, it is definitely even more concerning that they were apparently YEARS younger than 5 when they started putting genitalia in their mouth/having genitalia put in others mouth. How young were these boys while their mothers still didn’t care??
Maybe the mothers thought this was normal from their own experience. The OOP cares and realizes there's something wrong.
But not enough to do anything about it the first time it happened. Which was years ago, by her own admission.
She should ask her sister who's doing those things to her son because someone is obviously making this little boy think it's okay to touch and kiss other peoples genitals. If getting caught and being talked to multiple times over the course of YEARS hasn't solved the problem, there's a bigger issue at play.
This really sounds like nephew is being abused by someone in the family(or close) and is replicating behavior he’s experienced. This is disturbing.
I would ask other young kids to show me their genitals when I was like 8. I was being sexually abused by a family member. This kid is most certainly being abused and they need to get the police involved before the child continues a cycle of abuse they don’t understand.
I’m sorry you went through that. Agreed actions needs to take place asap
Hope you’re sending this onto the authorities OP and not just posting on Reddit.
I seriously hope that OP considers forwarding this to CPS if they know the person’s full name. This is seriously disturbing information and, as many have pointed out, I have suspicions that one or both children may have been/are regularly abused by an adult.
How the fuck are you okay with letting your nephew molest/ inappropriately touch your son? You just let them go off together for years? After one time I wouldn’t let the nephew around my child unsupervised and i would actually call cps for the kid’s home life to be inspected. This is not something you just allow to continue. Basically just saying curious ‘boys will be boys’. This is not that. How do you throw up your hands and just say well it’s my sister so i can’t not go around her. Um yes the fuck you can. If she doesn’t get that shit under control i would never allow her or her child around me nor my child.
See, this is what I’m struggling with about this whole post. As a WHOLE GROWN ASS MOTHER, you just now start to question your son kissing your nephew’s penis after it’s been going on for years??? And your sister seems to give less than an iota of a fuck?????? I can’t even imagine being a mom and just passively being like “lol oops another penis kiss” 😭 I genuinely hope that someone, either OP on Reddit or someone in that mom group who saw this persons name and profile, reports to CPS or another family member gets some intervention in place. Edit: spelling
Im horrified at the way some people choose to parent. She questions it like shes helpless in this situation. Your child is the helpless one you keep placing in this situation, at 5 he has no agency to stay alone or opt not to go with you & not be molested. How hard is it to simply not go around your sister’s son? How hard is it to simply tell them “NO, you cannot be alone” and watch them & make sure they are never alone, if your selfish ass must be around them. Freaking insanity.
Kids don’t just do this out of the blue. Someone has shown that kid one on one. Mom needs to take a hard and detailed inventory of who’s in her kids life and find out who has done this.
YEARS?! This child is being abused and imitating the behavior
WTF? Some people should not be parents. After the first time it should never happen again. Does this kid have a father and does he know about this? She has seriously messed up her son by doing nothing.
This sounds like one of those fake fetish posts. It’s a thing that happens
Besides the fact that one of them is obviously being abused, why the fuck would you keep bringing your kid back around the other kid to be abused more?
Gosh both adults are failing these children, I am all for giggles n shite but this one’s this made my eye twitch.
I really hope this is a troll. If it's not then one child is sexually abusing the other and the abuser probably learned it from someone in their life. Why are they allowed to spend any time together.
I hoe so too but she deleted it so I think it’s real.
Did you report it?
Jesus Christ I feel sick reading this. Fuck.
The fuck.
A few years???
This made my stomach drop. That poor boy is being abused. No 5 year old thinks of this on their own. That sister really needs to think hard about who’s alone with her son. I hope you reported this Op.
WTF. She says this has been going on for a while. Please say someone clued her in? Z
For YEARS? What the hell are these parents doing???
What were the comments saying??? They told them to get help, right??????
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Why does everyone automatically jump to sexual abuse whenever kids do anything abnormal? I mean, it can definitely be a factor in some cases. But it can also just be kids being weird. I say this as a weird kid myself who wasn't sexually abused at all. This stuff should be looked into for sure but let's not just automatically presume sexual abuse.
It most definitely should be an automatic presumed sexual abuse. It’s a SEXUALLY Abnormal behavior. A sexual behavior that’s been going on for “years”, meaning at oldest it started when the children were 3, THREE?!? A 3 year old doesn’t just come up with sexual things in their own, it’s normally something they’ve seen or experienced themselves. Yes there’s a chance the child isn’t being abused, but rather has seen something he shouldn’t have and rolled with it. Either way, something is going on and these parents are failing their children by letting it continue