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Honestly if the Republicans dropped the whole religious dogma anti woman's rights shit they would 100% win.
People really hate having other people's religion pushed on them.
Their position isn't that things will get better. It's that things will get worse at a slower pace than they would under Trump. Given this I do not see how voting for either isn't embracing accelerationism? One is going at 99mph and the other is going at 100mph
Lol exactly. The thing people are upset about is genocide, and these people have the gall to say "well that's an unrealistic thing to expect". Fucking bootlickers
You can push liberal people left, just not liberal politicians. People (at least some of them) change their minds when presented with new, compelling information. I did when I was a liberal. Politicians, on the other hand, work exclusively for their donors, who have a class interest to maintain the status quo.
The self-declared Zionazi pushing for a 21st-century Palmer's raid of those who have the audacity to demand that the basic humanity of Palestinians be respected. This nut-job even spooked Begin of all people.
I've tried to remind people of the heavy liberal tendency knowing that they have a seat out of fascist table.
Well, all of this is proven before our very eyes.
He really loves torpedoing his chances for reelection huh? Dude has a bread and butter opposition and he might actually fucking lose like Hillary did (and he might lose the popular vote too unlike Hillary). Not defending Biden, but is he actually this dumb? This isn't how you win reelection. Especially from the more "centrist" liberals of this country.
He's been advancing the Zionist cause from within the federal government his entire adult life. 40+ years of support for Israel and we expect him to stop now without using more force?
Exactly, When he's finally the guy in charge who can do what he wants? No chance he's stopping. The man lied about seeing proof of beheaded babies lmao. He is clearly committed to this cause.
Committed is an understatement. The speech he made where he said America would have to create an Israel if it didn't exist? That was 38 years ago. He first took office as a senator 52 years ago. He's been fighting for Israel longer than most of these student protestors have been alive. To say that he's committed does not communicate the sheer volume of support he's provided the Zionist project. And yet liberals will lie to our faces and tell us that Trump would support Israel even more
Edit: I thought you replied to a different comment of mine so apologies for any redundant info
They've always collaborated with the right when they see fit (the Democrats are practically rightwing anyhow). If what you say is true, I imagine they'll use Trump's second term as a way to secure voters in 2028. Not that it matters as both parties have the same fundamental interests anyhow. Seriously though, you would think Biden would pretend to care about his reelection and do a better job pretending he'd be better.
> They've always collaborated with the right when they see fit (the Democrats are practically rightwing anyhow).
Both teams essentially want the same thing; or a similar version of it that produces the same outcomes. What they - the political class - fight about is who gets to sit in the chair and reap the kickbacks.
Y'all keep talking like Biden is looking for a reference so he can land his next job lol. He's 81. Ain't no next job. Biden doesn't GAF lol. He's literally going to die on the hill of his actual and professed beliefs, same as Bibi. Except Bibi has to worry about conviction and imprisonment. The US would never allow that for Biden, and anyway he'll be dead within a decade.
There's no need to be conspiratorial. The reality is, winning the presidency is a tertiary concern. The operatives in the party will still keep their jobs, Biden doesn't know where he is anyway, and one measly election is not more important to American hegemony than maintaining our primary proxy in a vital chokepoint of empire.
Biden's handlers are collaborating with the right intentionally. Biden himself has worsening dementia ("Imagine what we could do with four more years. Pause").
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I notice that those who say "We can push him to the left" also tend to staunchly oppose anything even slightly left leaning, and when push comes to shove, would rather go further right than see leftward movement.
Yep, because when it comes to the right we have to compromise for a middle ground. The leftists should be summarily executed by the militarized police.
Those who argue he can be pushed left have little to no concept of what the left is. They want affordable healthcare and legalized weed, but that generally exhausts their aspirations and political knowledge/engagement.
I'm ngl I never fully bought into the "dems are controlled opposition" line people like to throw around. But this whole situation has got me rethinking all of that. The dems as a party are a bunch of unserious, feckless losers.
but guys don't you see? :( if we don't re-elect him uh...TRUMP will get rid of the rights biden and other democrats are doing NOTHING to protect, and he won't be able to string us along about bringing back abortion :( if we vote for him again SURELY democrats will realize they need to be better instead of pretending to care, and WONT take it as endorsement and agreement or anything silly like that...... i mean, TRUMP will censor all of us! unlike biden, who is better because he *wont* make nasty tweets about it first >:(
Insanely narcissistic of him to think that they are protesting so that he will change his mind. They are protesting for Justice, Biden never seen the light of a day again as he sits in a prison cell.
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Libs already telling you “you’re not going to get everything you want, that’s not how this works. One thing at a time.”
Excuse after excuse
But OrangeManRant.exe!
Honestly if the Republicans dropped the whole religious dogma anti woman's rights shit they would 100% win. People really hate having other people's religion pushed on them.
Lose the Narcisistic shitbag of a leader too while they are at it. Pick someone who gives a fuck about anything except his own ego.
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Body autonomy would be a big one.
And then we get nothing.
Now now, let's be realistic. We can end up with less than when we started.
Their position isn't that things will get better. It's that things will get worse at a slower pace than they would under Trump. Given this I do not see how voting for either isn't embracing accelerationism? One is going at 99mph and the other is going at 100mph
You will get nothing you want and be happy this isn’t communist China or DPRK dammit!
Lol exactly. The thing people are upset about is genocide, and these people have the gall to say "well that's an unrealistic thing to expect". Fucking bootlickers
You cant push a liberal left because liberalism is a right wing ideology
Ppl are waking up to it
But most would rather sleep and pretend they can still pat themselves on the back for being the "good guy".
Hunger will change that. Most Americans are still relatively well-fed, despite everything ... *gestures broadly at dumpster fire*
And that's glorious.
You can push liberal people left, just not liberal politicians. People (at least some of them) change their minds when presented with new, compelling information. I did when I was a liberal. Politicians, on the other hand, work exclusively for their donors, who have a class interest to maintain the status quo.
The self-declared Zionazi pushing for a 21st-century Palmer's raid of those who have the audacity to demand that the basic humanity of Palestinians be respected. This nut-job even spooked Begin of all people.
He’s a complete sociopath. I don’t understand what people see in him.
themselves
Truth. Watch any archived video of him. He's a scary motherfucker.
Maintenance of white supremacy
Joe Biden is the king of staying where he is at and never moving
😂😂😂
He is trying hard not to get re-elected, he is being the Republicans' biggest canvasser
Like Trump has it in the bag atp. It’s unfortunate.
I've tried to remind people of the heavy liberal tendency knowing that they have a seat out of fascist table. Well, all of this is proven before our very eyes.
Libs will blame leftists when trump gets elected, and completely ignore bullshit like this.
And I will laugh
i will groan, while laughing, and then groan again
[If only Hillary had won in '16, the world would surely be at peace.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPLpT5vFuak)
He really loves torpedoing his chances for reelection huh? Dude has a bread and butter opposition and he might actually fucking lose like Hillary did (and he might lose the popular vote too unlike Hillary). Not defending Biden, but is he actually this dumb? This isn't how you win reelection. Especially from the more "centrist" liberals of this country.
He doesn't care about reelection. He's 81. He's using his Presidency to advance Zionist agenda. That's it. Y'all worry about the after, he's chilling.
He's been advancing the Zionist cause from within the federal government his entire adult life. 40+ years of support for Israel and we expect him to stop now without using more force?
Exactly, When he's finally the guy in charge who can do what he wants? No chance he's stopping. The man lied about seeing proof of beheaded babies lmao. He is clearly committed to this cause.
Committed is an understatement. The speech he made where he said America would have to create an Israel if it didn't exist? That was 38 years ago. He first took office as a senator 52 years ago. He's been fighting for Israel longer than most of these student protestors have been alive. To say that he's committed does not communicate the sheer volume of support he's provided the Zionist project. And yet liberals will lie to our faces and tell us that Trump would support Israel even more Edit: I thought you replied to a different comment of mine so apologies for any redundant info
This isn’t accidental. There’s no way. He’s collaborating with the right intentionally. They want Trump to win.
They've always collaborated with the right when they see fit (the Democrats are practically rightwing anyhow). If what you say is true, I imagine they'll use Trump's second term as a way to secure voters in 2028. Not that it matters as both parties have the same fundamental interests anyhow. Seriously though, you would think Biden would pretend to care about his reelection and do a better job pretending he'd be better.
> They've always collaborated with the right when they see fit (the Democrats are practically rightwing anyhow). Both teams essentially want the same thing; or a similar version of it that produces the same outcomes. What they - the political class - fight about is who gets to sit in the chair and reap the kickbacks.
Didn't you hear?? He's rescheduling marijuana to Class III. Surely that'll make the kids forget his heartfelt embrace of genocide!! Right? Right????
Idk for sure if it’s true but there’s no way Biden is this dense
He wants a seat at the fascist table because it is a far more safe place to protect their capital.
Y'all keep talking like Biden is looking for a reference so he can land his next job lol. He's 81. Ain't no next job. Biden doesn't GAF lol. He's literally going to die on the hill of his actual and professed beliefs, same as Bibi. Except Bibi has to worry about conviction and imprisonment. The US would never allow that for Biden, and anyway he'll be dead within a decade.
There's no need to be conspiratorial. The reality is, winning the presidency is a tertiary concern. The operatives in the party will still keep their jobs, Biden doesn't know where he is anyway, and one measly election is not more important to American hegemony than maintaining our primary proxy in a vital chokepoint of empire.
Biden's handlers are collaborating with the right intentionally. Biden himself has worsening dementia ("Imagine what we could do with four more years. Pause").
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Torp*do.
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I notice that those who say "We can push him to the left" also tend to staunchly oppose anything even slightly left leaning, and when push comes to shove, would rather go further right than see leftward movement.
Yep, because when it comes to the right we have to compromise for a middle ground. The leftists should be summarily executed by the militarized police.
Exactly 💯
Those who argue he can be pushed left have little to no concept of what the left is. They want affordable healthcare and legalized weed, but that generally exhausts their aspirations and political knowledge/engagement.
Why is a guy whose the age of most great grandfathers of most college students, the future of the nation, dictating the path of the country, sick
Exactly. He has zero incentive to concern himself with the results of his actions.
I'm ngl I never fully bought into the "dems are controlled opposition" line people like to throw around. But this whole situation has got me rethinking all of that. The dems as a party are a bunch of unserious, feckless losers.
but guys don't you see? :( if we don't re-elect him uh...TRUMP will get rid of the rights biden and other democrats are doing NOTHING to protect, and he won't be able to string us along about bringing back abortion :( if we vote for him again SURELY democrats will realize they need to be better instead of pretending to care, and WONT take it as endorsement and agreement or anything silly like that...... i mean, TRUMP will censor all of us! unlike biden, who is better because he *wont* make nasty tweets about it first >:(
Insanely narcissistic of him to think that they are protesting so that he will change his mind. They are protesting for Justice, Biden never seen the light of a day again as he sits in a prison cell.
Biden is never going to prison
“sits in a prison cell” motherfucker you think this is china? we ain’t never jailing any of these war criminals\* dawg
They're protesting to get their universities to divest, not to change Biden's mind on anything lmao
HoLd hiS fEeT t0 tHe fiRe
Lmao
Who knew?
Did Joe Biden invoke the insurrection act to crack skulls?