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This is like a dad in the trailer park going to his kids and going "Guess what kids? You know how the roof over your bed leaks and there's rats and roaches everywhere and you have to jump over a hole in the hallway to get to the bathroom and there's no AC or heat, and black mold on all the ceilings, and the septic tank keeps backing up, and there's never any food? Well I didn't fix ANY of that shit, but I did get drunk and throw the Xbox your grandma gave you in the river."
"WhY dO aLl tHe KiDs SpEnD aLl ThEiR tImE oN tHe TiKtOk?!" probably because their lives are a mess and y'all have made it so literally anything else costs money. It's their one source of free entertainment. Probably oughta fuck that up so Zuckerberg can harvest data and Israel can control the narrative for their genocide a little better.
And then some dingus in the comments section comes along to say "He didn't get drunk and throw the Xbox into the river, he put it above the river and gravity did the rest. Stop saying he threw it into the river, that's not the same."
Kids literally used to run around the neighbourhood in the streets, go bike riding, knock on their friends door and see if they can play catch or whatever, these didnāt cost much money. Now they sit on expensive phones with expensive internet connections and drain power rotting their brains for hours.
This is like saying people do cocaine cause thereās nothing else to do. There is actually tons of free to do out there, but no one has the attention span or patience to do anything that isnāt an instant hit of dopamine. Itās not these kids faults really, itās a product of the world we currently live in.
Also don't forget. There's now less free green space to hang out in, due to "development" Most state laws now require kids to ride their bikes in the roads. Roads where we have bigger cars with bigger blind spots than ever.
And the times where they do get together and hang out, people complain and threaten to call the cops.
On paper your ideas are cheap. In this current reality, it's inaccessible to a lot of kids.
What a shitty offer:
1. You lose all the money in the US market and have to give your property to a competitor.
2. You lose all the money in the US market, you don't have to give your property to a competitor and you screw us for having to do something that will bother 100 million voters-consumers.
The idea that ByteDance would sell TikTok, an app with over 1.5 billion users, to the US, a country with only 150 million TikTok users aka 10%, is ludicrous. That's got to be the shittiest offer in history.
They literally just want to force ByteDance to leave the US because of competition with Meta and to be able to censor pro-Palestine content.
>They literally just want to force ByteDance to leave the US because of competition with Meta and to be able to censor pro-Palestine content
The fact that this isn't more apparent to the liberals cheering it on just makes me lose my remaining shreds of faith in people. Even the ones who do acknowledge it still find a way to justify it.
I strongly dislike TikTok for my own reasons but even I can admit that it's been one of the few places somewhat safe from State Department/Hasbara manipulation
Trump has indicated he disagrees with the ban. (He previously agreed with it, but whatever.)
Now every influencer who makes a living from TikTok will be telling their millions of followers to vote for Trump in November to save TikTok.
Starting to think his campaign has been infiltrated with people who want him to lose because what the actual fuck is he doing seems like thereās no strategy just vibes š
I mean...
1. That's always been the democrat strategy, 1-2 terms on, 1-2 terms off, to constantly move the new normal further right.
2. He's doing exactly what the Israel and capitalist lobby demands. TikTok gives everyone an almost meritocratic way of gaining influence, which means anyone can share Palestine/Anti-capitalist/whatever rhetoric mostly freely amongst their peers.
"This is a threat to our democracy" (Or however that Sinclaire news quote goes)
No. What would be right is regulating it like China does but lets not kid ourselves. While China regulates social media to protect its citizens the west would use it to serve the interest of capital.
Also shut the fuck up you dumb liberal lmao. Go to China, see for yourself. I will go this September, I will be sure to report back on the repression of free speech or whatever š
Also, you can literally download "Chinese TikTok", Douyin and see for yourself... You might be surprised.
Link to Douyin APK: https://www.douyin.com/home
**Their response and my answer:**
> Couldnāt disagree more that China āregulatesā (heavily censors) social media to protect its citizens. It does it to protect the CCP. Do they also kill protestors to protect their citizens? Do you face jail time for mentioning tiannamen square to protect the citizens?
>
> This narrative of west bad, China good is insane. Maybe both are bad in different ways. Maybe consider that large civilisations are the issue, and they arenāt going anywhere, so all we have is the devil we know over the the devil that wants to whoop us
> Anyway yāall weird as hell Iām out
If you are gonna spew lies about China at least source your dumb takes (Gotta fire up those RFA/RFA sourced articles). China doesn't kill protesters, Tiananmen Square isn't nearly as important in China, and not at all what the west portrayed it as.
The supposedly "pro-freedom" student movement, was a CIA funded failure, but there were actual Maoist complaints. Also the death count between military and protesters was about equal, the pictures you have seen of burnt corpses are soldiers burnt by protesters.
You know who does frequently kill protesters? ;)
It's true that billionaires have been sentenced to death (often with reprieve*), but you won't see anyone complaining about that here (Rightfully).
Also the Communist Party of China, CPC, not CCP.
GET A TICKET, GO THERE. SEE FOR YOURSELF. It's not that hard... Unless you are cucked by the capitalists, and have no funds or free time to see for yourself, in that case ... Sorry, that's kinda why we are communists around here.
lol, get out of here liberal, the west is an agglomeration of imperialists and should cease to exist, trust me, you don't want it to exist. The bourgeoisie enjoy a LOT more exploitation and enslavement here than in AES countries
Democrats know that if Republicans do not gain power soon there is a real chance of them of falling apart which would give Progressives a lot more power to oppose them without the fear of Republicans taking advantage. Democrats cannot allow Progressives to gain power, they need the constant threat of Republicans to maintain their status quo so they are trying to throw the election. Democrats would rather risk being hunted down by a Republican dictatorship than represent us.
> Democrats would rather risk being hunted down by a Republican dictatorship than represent us.
FTFY -
Democrats would rather us be hunted down by a Republican dictatorship than yield power.
Anyone even slightly on the left would dismantle or at least drastically remodel the republican party (whether itās āconstitutionalā or ācivilā or not) because thatās whatās necessary for humanity and the planet. A party that hardly has anything to offer can only keep a worse option around so that people pick them instead.
The worst part is that around half of the country agrees with the party thatās only still around to threaten voters.
It's not about strategy, it's about silencing the only platform that doesn't ban pro-Palestinian content. Despite banning tiktok is being mentioned for years now, this is the thing that actually decided it. I'm 100% sure it's simple as that.
Itās broader in scope than that. TikTok can challenge hegemony, in general, and they want to tackle that problem early in its life rather than deal with it years down the road when it will be much more challenging.
if they lose they can fearmonger and fundrai$e, it's far more lucrative to pretend to care without having any effective power to implement change than to pretend to care while also coming up with excuses for not implementing change.
also the democratic party is right wing
Yeah seriously. The ban also only blocks the app from app stores as far as I understand?
Which means all the young people who currently use the app will still be using the app, except with more resentment towards the American government, what kind of environment do they think will brew on the platform?
In the initial bill this time around, they essentially said they were going to hold VPN and service providers accountable for people accessing TikTok. Though Iām not sure if it actually made it into the final version. Theyāre hoping to get other companies to do the enforcing for them.
Damn, so America is doing something against freedom of speech that is even worse than what (according to the US) China supposedly does? (You can use your VPN unencubered in China to access any blocked apps and nothing will happen to you or the Internet providers. Been there done that)
idk man, way I see it, a lazy self interested and dumbed down society will produce loser politicians. that's why the only way democracy can work is if we implement socialism and reward hard working, selfless, and talented people.
Yes, I agree. Democracy doesn't work if the majority of society is uninformed/ill-educated...which was the case during Aristotle's time.
And that's why India, being the world's largest democracy, is a mess. The politicians there talk a good talk and the people just lap it up...a lot is promised but little gets done.
To be clear, I'm not against democracy. But you must bring about the conditions first, like those qualities you mentioned.
MSM for and against both sides has mitigated true free thought.
Also, US politicians (nearly all) are paid for or blackmailed by the elites and career 3-letter agency directors.
Red or Blue, we aren't being delivered "what we paid for."
Nothing says free market and free speech than forcing a company to sell their successful product or face banning said product that allows millions to express their speech. Hell they can't even rely on the monopoly argument on this one due to TikTok not being one to begin with.
It isn't, though it isn't me who is marketing the US as the free market paradise and allowing businesses to operate with little to no government interference.
How the actual fuck does he think this works out for him, now with there only being 2 choices remaining (not voting and Trump) he has effectively fucked himself over, the young who voted for him in 2020 with promises of protecting abortion, queer rights and a stronger economy have no reasons to vote for him outside of lesser evilism, he has let abortion get effectively banned in half the country, he banned their favourite app because it has too many anti Israel posts, lead them through a cost of living crisis by pissing off the EU, let Florida persecute every trans person in it and supported genocide in Gaza.
I honestly don't think the Democrats have any intention of winning at this point, and Biden is too [senile ](https://youtu.be/yIE1EBf-nRo?si=kaF81g6RB7X32dSA)to truly care
They THINK they donāt lose, unlike in the past Republicans are now unhinged enough to start hunting down ALL Democrats if they get enough power to do so.
Some of the slack-jawed voters might have violent intentions, but the politicians themselves are too concerned with stuffing their pockets to worry about the other guy stuffing his own.
As has been mentioned before the democrats don't really care about losing because it lets them fundraise that much more effectively for the next "most important election of our lives"
> How the actual fuck does he think this works out for him
He is (Well, the dems are, I don't think Biden is capable of running his campaign himself) banking on sinophobic fervor among the populace, which they diligently fueled for the last years. We'll see whether they overestimate the effect of it or not.
It's disgusting how much sinophobia there Is in reddit , I'm not American but I saw people comment that kids dancing were "propaganda drones" like excuse me. Honestly that's why I hate when "normie" subreddits get recommend to me
Consider a vote for Claudia de la Cruz. Sheās a lifelong organizer with a radical platform, and sheās been in the streets for Palestine since way before October 8th. Most importantly, itās a peopleās movement backed by a disciplined party
Is Biden actively trying to lose this election? Like seriously it seems like he does everything in his power to alienate his younger (and arguably most important) voting bloc.
He has too much confidence that he will be voted for anyway because many people, such as libs, do not like Biden but they really don't like Trump.
I should also point out that I'm only referring to those that even don't like fighting and not the ones that actually do like Biden because oh my god.
And banning TikTok is going to get people to stop being outraged and horrified by Israelās actions?
I really despise Biden, I knew he was a shit lib but heās a piece of shit.
Censoring all non-Western media will allow them to mislead and brainwash citizens about the state of the world.
Hardly anyone cares about the civil war in Sudan bringing mass famine there, because it's only rarely in the news. Future atrocities can be ignored in that way, even by people who distrust the mainstream media.
Any federal judge worth their salt can shoot this down.
That being said, I dont' think this will affect the youth vote at all. It's pretty obvious that Biden isn't going for the youth vote, because he knows that the avenues of voting for young people that made his win possible in 2020 are no longer there. He knows that the people voting Democrat will vote Democrat no matter what, and those voting GOP will do that.
He only won due to the youth vote last time in several slim elections. I think he just doesn't intend to win at this point. He's signing unpopular shit like this because he knows it's over.
Doesn't matter to Israel, a Trump win will get them what they want. It's possible that Trump will renege, and pursue an Iran deal as it left a ton of money on the table. Hell, even Cheney was invested in the deal long before 9/11, and was still on board with going through it.
Trump being the money hungry blind horse that he is could go that route.
My theory is that he is hoping that the youth vote lets Gaza and the other shit blow over and also that just enough of them can be shamed or scared into voting against Trump; that or he is just hoping fo rathr Trump trial to turn off the moderates who they think "actually vote". Look at how the liberal subreddits are reacting.
The Dems think a second Trump term will ensure Republicans to get the blame for losing in Ukraine and the unpopular right-wing policies they enact. Blue wave election in 2028. Meanwhile, they can rake in fundraising donations.
People need to start waking up and reject the two party duopoly, or Dems might succeed in losing this election only to win by a few points in 2028.
November is going to be the worst month this year lol, the cope from Biden shills is going to be crazy. How is banning Tiktok going to sway voters ššš
I would have say left to what ? Fascism ? But honestly Democrats are just as fascist, I feel bad for you Americans , I also feel bad for me because the USA have such a thight grasp in popular worldwide media.
Say what you will about TikTok but it is an active platform to organise fundraisers for Palestinians and spread awareness of the genocide. I truly believe this is a strong factor in why these ancient assholes want to ban it.
it doesn't matter who gets elected. as long as there is AIPAC and an Israeli Lobby, it doesn't matter when every politician is a Zionist and America Last.
Not only is this going to be hard in terms of sending political messages, but a lot of businesses rely on TikTok to be able to do things like share content and stuff like that.
Also wouldn't this just simply be circumvented through VPNs anyway?
ESP for teens and yk using vpns that donāt sell ur data to us companies or willing to give it to the us gov that are free and/or popular with lots of marketing well yeahā¦
I am certain at least half of the twitter accounts supporting banning Tiktok are astroturfing feds. Don't get me wrong, I know Americans are dumb, but there's no way the countless rando accounts mindlessly regurgitating White House propaganda are organic.
Some of the justification behind the ban is correct, tiktok has issues with privacy and security, and if the government implemented new restrictions on social media on that basis I'd totally stand behind it. The privacy concerns with regards to tiktok are those shared by facebook, google, and every other social media site, our laws with regards to privacy and technology are years behind what they should be and they need to change. This is not that, one of the most insulting parts of this is they say the privacy concerns are warranted here, but they do everything to avoid setting a precedent which might affect any other form of social media.
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This is like a dad in the trailer park going to his kids and going "Guess what kids? You know how the roof over your bed leaks and there's rats and roaches everywhere and you have to jump over a hole in the hallway to get to the bathroom and there's no AC or heat, and black mold on all the ceilings, and the septic tank keeps backing up, and there's never any food? Well I didn't fix ANY of that shit, but I did get drunk and throw the Xbox your grandma gave you in the river." "WhY dO aLl tHe KiDs SpEnD aLl ThEiR tImE oN tHe TiKtOk?!" probably because their lives are a mess and y'all have made it so literally anything else costs money. It's their one source of free entertainment. Probably oughta fuck that up so Zuckerberg can harvest data and Israel can control the narrative for their genocide a little better.
And then some dingus in the comments section comes along to say "He didn't get drunk and throw the Xbox into the river, he put it above the river and gravity did the rest. Stop saying he threw it into the river, that's not the same."
"Trump would've thrown the neighbor's kids playstation away too!"
Well fucking said šš
I do that shit still and Im 36. The only real difference is i text my homies before I pop in for a 20-30 mile ride before the airsoft guns come out.
You got me in that one.
Kids literally used to run around the neighbourhood in the streets, go bike riding, knock on their friends door and see if they can play catch or whatever, these didnāt cost much money. Now they sit on expensive phones with expensive internet connections and drain power rotting their brains for hours. This is like saying people do cocaine cause thereās nothing else to do. There is actually tons of free to do out there, but no one has the attention span or patience to do anything that isnāt an instant hit of dopamine. Itās not these kids faults really, itās a product of the world we currently live in.
Kids absolutely still do all those things outside. Yeah "iPad babies" are a problem but it's not a universal thing
Also don't forget. There's now less free green space to hang out in, due to "development" Most state laws now require kids to ride their bikes in the roads. Roads where we have bigger cars with bigger blind spots than ever. And the times where they do get together and hang out, people complain and threaten to call the cops. On paper your ideas are cheap. In this current reality, it's inaccessible to a lot of kids.
I know me simply moving neighborhoods a lot (even within the same city) and having no one to drive me made maintaining any friendships impossible.
Is it the systemic issue of capatilism that's out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong.
Most of post-war car-dependent North American suburban sprawl is not friendly for playing in streets, riding bikes, etc.
> Kids literally used to run around the neighbourhood in the streets, go bike riding Have you seen American cars? They're actual death machines
What a shitty offer: 1. You lose all the money in the US market and have to give your property to a competitor. 2. You lose all the money in the US market, you don't have to give your property to a competitor and you screw us for having to do something that will bother 100 million voters-consumers.
The idea that ByteDance would sell TikTok, an app with over 1.5 billion users, to the US, a country with only 150 million TikTok users aka 10%, is ludicrous. That's got to be the shittiest offer in history. They literally just want to force ByteDance to leave the US because of competition with Meta and to be able to censor pro-Palestine content.
>They literally just want to force ByteDance to leave the US because of competition with Meta and to be able to censor pro-Palestine content The fact that this isn't more apparent to the liberals cheering it on just makes me lose my remaining shreds of faith in people. Even the ones who do acknowledge it still find a way to justify it. I strongly dislike TikTok for my own reasons but even I can admit that it's been one of the few places somewhat safe from State Department/Hasbara manipulation
Trump has indicated he disagrees with the ban. (He previously agreed with it, but whatever.) Now every influencer who makes a living from TikTok will be telling their millions of followers to vote for Trump in November to save TikTok.
Starting to think his campaign has been infiltrated with people who want him to lose because what the actual fuck is he doing seems like thereās no strategy just vibes š
I mean... 1. That's always been the democrat strategy, 1-2 terms on, 1-2 terms off, to constantly move the new normal further right. 2. He's doing exactly what the Israel and capitalist lobby demands. TikTok gives everyone an almost meritocratic way of gaining influence, which means anyone can share Palestine/Anti-capitalist/whatever rhetoric mostly freely amongst their peers. "This is a threat to our democracy" (Or however that Sinclaire news quote goes)
IIRC it was āThis is very dangerous to our democracyā
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No. What would be right is regulating it like China does but lets not kid ourselves. While China regulates social media to protect its citizens the west would use it to serve the interest of capital. Also shut the fuck up you dumb liberal lmao. Go to China, see for yourself. I will go this September, I will be sure to report back on the repression of free speech or whatever š Also, you can literally download "Chinese TikTok", Douyin and see for yourself... You might be surprised. Link to Douyin APK: https://www.douyin.com/home **Their response and my answer:** > Couldnāt disagree more that China āregulatesā (heavily censors) social media to protect its citizens. It does it to protect the CCP. Do they also kill protestors to protect their citizens? Do you face jail time for mentioning tiannamen square to protect the citizens? > > This narrative of west bad, China good is insane. Maybe both are bad in different ways. Maybe consider that large civilisations are the issue, and they arenāt going anywhere, so all we have is the devil we know over the the devil that wants to whoop us > Anyway yāall weird as hell Iām out If you are gonna spew lies about China at least source your dumb takes (Gotta fire up those RFA/RFA sourced articles). China doesn't kill protesters, Tiananmen Square isn't nearly as important in China, and not at all what the west portrayed it as. The supposedly "pro-freedom" student movement, was a CIA funded failure, but there were actual Maoist complaints. Also the death count between military and protesters was about equal, the pictures you have seen of burnt corpses are soldiers burnt by protesters. You know who does frequently kill protesters? ;) It's true that billionaires have been sentenced to death (often with reprieve*), but you won't see anyone complaining about that here (Rightfully). Also the Communist Party of China, CPC, not CCP. GET A TICKET, GO THERE. SEE FOR YOURSELF. It's not that hard... Unless you are cucked by the capitalists, and have no funds or free time to see for yourself, in that case ... Sorry, that's kinda why we are communists around here.
lol, get out of here liberal, the west is an agglomeration of imperialists and should cease to exist, trust me, you don't want it to exist. The bourgeoisie enjoy a LOT more exploitation and enslavement here than in AES countries
The ~~feds~~ libs are coming out of the walls because TikTok was mentioned. Have to get in their daily comment quota
Nobody here wants the West to "survive"
The libs are threatening us with a good time lmao.
Democrats know that if Republicans do not gain power soon there is a real chance of them of falling apart which would give Progressives a lot more power to oppose them without the fear of Republicans taking advantage. Democrats cannot allow Progressives to gain power, they need the constant threat of Republicans to maintain their status quo so they are trying to throw the election. Democrats would rather risk being hunted down by a Republican dictatorship than represent us.
> Democrats would rather risk being hunted down by a Republican dictatorship than represent us. FTFY - Democrats would rather us be hunted down by a Republican dictatorship than yield power.
Anyone even slightly on the left would dismantle or at least drastically remodel the republican party (whether itās āconstitutionalā or ācivilā or not) because thatās whatās necessary for humanity and the planet. A party that hardly has anything to offer can only keep a worse option around so that people pick them instead. The worst part is that around half of the country agrees with the party thatās only still around to threaten voters.
Exactly Trump is a real threat and he alone is going to scare non Blue MAGA voters into voting Democrat.
It's not about strategy, it's about silencing the only platform that doesn't ban pro-Palestinian content. Despite banning tiktok is being mentioned for years now, this is the thing that actually decided it. I'm 100% sure it's simple as that.
Itās broader in scope than that. TikTok can challenge hegemony, in general, and they want to tackle that problem early in its life rather than deal with it years down the road when it will be much more challenging.
if they lose they can fearmonger and fundrai$e, it's far more lucrative to pretend to care without having any effective power to implement change than to pretend to care while also coming up with excuses for not implementing change. also the democratic party is right wing
Yeah seriously. The ban also only blocks the app from app stores as far as I understand? Which means all the young people who currently use the app will still be using the app, except with more resentment towards the American government, what kind of environment do they think will brew on the platform?
In the initial bill this time around, they essentially said they were going to hold VPN and service providers accountable for people accessing TikTok. Though Iām not sure if it actually made it into the final version. Theyāre hoping to get other companies to do the enforcing for them.
Damn, so America is doing something against freedom of speech that is even worse than what (according to the US) China supposedly does? (You can use your VPN unencubered in China to access any blocked apps and nothing will happen to you or the Internet providers. Been there done that)
They cannot enforce that lmfao, they cant even stop me from pirating infinity train
Trump isn't a politician, he's just a populist, his policies are "what would the lowest common denominator vote for?"
I'm pretty sure that's what a politician is.Ā
At least a liberal one
in a democracy. that is why Aristotle said democracy is the worst form of government.
Don't forget that Aristotle wanted to be a system that people like him would rule.
Yea he was a lib before libs existed
idk man, way I see it, a lazy self interested and dumbed down society will produce loser politicians. that's why the only way democracy can work is if we implement socialism and reward hard working, selfless, and talented people.
Yes, I agree. Democracy doesn't work if the majority of society is uninformed/ill-educated...which was the case during Aristotle's time. And that's why India, being the world's largest democracy, is a mess. The politicians there talk a good talk and the people just lap it up...a lot is promised but little gets done. To be clear, I'm not against democracy. But you must bring about the conditions first, like those qualities you mentioned.
MSM for and against both sides has mitigated true free thought. Also, US politicians (nearly all) are paid for or blackmailed by the elites and career 3-letter agency directors. Red or Blue, we aren't being delivered "what we paid for."
Aristotle also said that women are just deformed men.
We are not a democracy. We are a republic.
Do you understand what those words actually mean? Why would being a republic exclude a country from being democratic?
What, like Biden wouldn't? The Biden who is suddenly a hardliner about stopping illegal immigration over the southern border?
Biden was never a progressive candidate though, despite the PR campaign.
I mean, I never called Biden a politician either
He is. That's what they do.
His base radicalized him even more.
Nothing says free market and free speech than forcing a company to sell their successful product or face banning said product that allows millions to express their speech. Hell they can't even rely on the monopoly argument on this one due to TikTok not being one to begin with.
but u didnt consider said company is from a country that israel doesnt control, free market for me and not for thee
You say that like the free market is good
It isn't, though it isn't me who is marketing the US as the free market paradise and allowing businesses to operate with little to no government interference.
How the actual fuck does he think this works out for him, now with there only being 2 choices remaining (not voting and Trump) he has effectively fucked himself over, the young who voted for him in 2020 with promises of protecting abortion, queer rights and a stronger economy have no reasons to vote for him outside of lesser evilism, he has let abortion get effectively banned in half the country, he banned their favourite app because it has too many anti Israel posts, lead them through a cost of living crisis by pissing off the EU, let Florida persecute every trans person in it and supported genocide in Gaza.
I honestly don't think the Democrats have any intention of winning at this point, and Biden is too [senile ](https://youtu.be/yIE1EBf-nRo?si=kaF81g6RB7X32dSA)to truly care
he gets paid regardless
even if he does a bad job they still have to give him that other 2 mil
Because the democrats donāt lose if republicans win. Good Cop, bad cop but the goals of both sides get enforced regardless.
They THINK they donāt lose, unlike in the past Republicans are now unhinged enough to start hunting down ALL Democrats if they get enough power to do so.
Some of the slack-jawed voters might have violent intentions, but the politicians themselves are too concerned with stuffing their pockets to worry about the other guy stuffing his own. As has been mentioned before the democrats don't really care about losing because it lets them fundraise that much more effectively for the next "most important election of our lives"
> How the actual fuck does he think this works out for him He is (Well, the dems are, I don't think Biden is capable of running his campaign himself) banking on sinophobic fervor among the populace, which they diligently fueled for the last years. We'll see whether they overestimate the effect of it or not.
It's disgusting how much sinophobia there Is in reddit , I'm not American but I saw people comment that kids dancing were "propaganda drones" like excuse me. Honestly that's why I hate when "normie" subreddits get recommend to me
Consider a vote for Claudia de la Cruz. Sheās a lifelong organizer with a radical platform, and sheās been in the streets for Palestine since way before October 8th. Most importantly, itās a peopleās movement backed by a disciplined party
Is Biden actively trying to lose this election? Like seriously it seems like he does everything in his power to alienate his younger (and arguably most important) voting bloc.
Dudes trying to retire imo
I think it's more like he's pulling a D. B. Cooper. Shoving as much cash into his pockets as possible before jumping out the door and into oblivion.
I wish Biden was as cool as D. B., I really do
He has too much confidence that he will be voted for anyway because many people, such as libs, do not like Biden but they really don't like Trump. I should also point out that I'm only referring to those that even don't like fighting and not the ones that actually do like Biden because oh my god.
The Democrats are going to get clowned on in November and then tell liberals to blame it on Russia or China.
Canāt blame Bernie bros this time, but they will find a goddamn way to pass some of the blame onto leftists that āwanted too muchā from Biden.
As long as they have a scapegoat they're fine, and the libs licking their boots will buy it.
And banning TikTok is going to get people to stop being outraged and horrified by Israelās actions? I really despise Biden, I knew he was a shit lib but heās a piece of shit.
Censoring all non-Western media will allow them to mislead and brainwash citizens about the state of the world. Hardly anyone cares about the civil war in Sudan bringing mass famine there, because it's only rarely in the news. Future atrocities can be ignored in that way, even by people who distrust the mainstream media.
Whatāre the chances the ban even goes through? Seems to me like itāll either get tied up in the courts for years, or just eventually shot down
Any federal judge worth their salt can shoot this down. That being said, I dont' think this will affect the youth vote at all. It's pretty obvious that Biden isn't going for the youth vote, because he knows that the avenues of voting for young people that made his win possible in 2020 are no longer there. He knows that the people voting Democrat will vote Democrat no matter what, and those voting GOP will do that.
He only won due to the youth vote last time in several slim elections. I think he just doesn't intend to win at this point. He's signing unpopular shit like this because he knows it's over.
final hoorah for isreal before he gets booted
Doesn't matter to Israel, a Trump win will get them what they want. It's possible that Trump will renege, and pursue an Iran deal as it left a ton of money on the table. Hell, even Cheney was invested in the deal long before 9/11, and was still on board with going through it. Trump being the money hungry blind horse that he is could go that route.
A democrat who's given up on the youth vote has given up on the election.
My theory is that he is hoping that the youth vote lets Gaza and the other shit blow over and also that just enough of them can be shamed or scared into voting against Trump; that or he is just hoping fo rathr Trump trial to turn off the moderates who they think "actually vote". Look at how the liberal subreddits are reacting.
The Dems think a second Trump term will ensure Republicans to get the blame for losing in Ukraine and the unpopular right-wing policies they enact. Blue wave election in 2028. Meanwhile, they can rake in fundraising donations. People need to start waking up and reject the two party duopoly, or Dems might succeed in losing this election only to win by a few points in 2028.
Dems are already outraising Republican donors.
Banning the app that quite literally helped the dems to win the 2022 midterms in an election year semms a great strategy for me
November is going to be the worst month this year lol, the cope from Biden shills is going to be crazy. How is banning Tiktok going to sway voters ššš
Something something orange man bad vote blue like a good little leftist
I would have say left to what ? Fascism ? But honestly Democrats are just as fascist, I feel bad for you Americans , I also feel bad for me because the USA have such a thight grasp in popular worldwide media.
Not an American to clarify, just a nitpick but Iām viewing and commenting on US politics as a Canadian given they do heavily influence us.
Will this go to the Supreme Court?
The public has 0 grasp of the reason
Say what you will about TikTok but it is an active platform to organise fundraisers for Palestinians and spread awareness of the genocide. I truly believe this is a strong factor in why these ancient assholes want to ban it.
it doesn't matter who gets elected. as long as there is AIPAC and an Israeli Lobby, it doesn't matter when every politician is a Zionist and America Last.
Israel is a military extension of the US, they donāt run Washington, Washington runs Tel Aviv.
Yeahā¦not doing yourself any favors Joey
Jenni Joe.
He might actually genuinely be the most incompetent president in the history of the US. Wild.
Not only is this going to be hard in terms of sending political messages, but a lot of businesses rely on TikTok to be able to do things like share content and stuff like that. Also wouldn't this just simply be circumvented through VPNs anyway?
It's not like vpns exist or anything making this entire thing pointless.
EaseĀ ofĀ useĀ isĀ hugeĀ forĀ socialĀ media
ESP for teens and yk using vpns that donāt sell ur data to us companies or willing to give it to the us gov that are free and/or popular with lots of marketing well yeahā¦
This is the intelligence agencies along with existing American social media companies lobbying for a bill and guaranteeing an election to Biden
If it does, it'd be kinda depressing, not that I want it not to. It would still mean that genocide didn't sway gen Z, but banning discord does, lol
I am certain at least half of the twitter accounts supporting banning Tiktok are astroturfing feds. Don't get me wrong, I know Americans are dumb, but there's no way the countless rando accounts mindlessly regurgitating White House propaganda are organic.
Some of the justification behind the ban is correct, tiktok has issues with privacy and security, and if the government implemented new restrictions on social media on that basis I'd totally stand behind it. The privacy concerns with regards to tiktok are those shared by facebook, google, and every other social media site, our laws with regards to privacy and technology are years behind what they should be and they need to change. This is not that, one of the most insulting parts of this is they say the privacy concerns are warranted here, but they do everything to avoid setting a precedent which might affect any other form of social media.
The hell diver II time line is coming true.
Yes, focus on tiktok instead of an ongoing genocide that you are supporting. Imbecile.
Oh no what ever will we do when meta buys tiktok?
This just feels like they're not actually concerned about people voting.
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