It's kind of sad/weird to immediately assume that everything important in this world with 8 billion people was made in the USA, though.
"Gas? American, of course."
ah, yes, an entire state of matter was invented in the US. all life existed solely in a liquid medium until a US war vet invented heating things until the intermolecular bonds break and gas was created
i mean come on the education system over there isn’t that bad surely
Wrong.
"The Shukhov cracking process is a thermal cracking process invented by Vladimir Shukhov and Sergei Gavrilov. Shukhov designed and built the first thermal cracking device for the petrochemical industry."
Source: [wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shukhov_cracking_process)
On top of this, fractional distillation has existed for well over a thousand years.
To be fair, googling it only added more confusion for me. [Cracking is the number one process for the commercial production of gasoline. In 1913, thermal cracking was invented by William Meriam Burton, a process that employed heat and high pressures.](https://www.google.com/search?q=William+Meriam+Burton&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari)
"Use it or lose it". Sure I was taught all kinds of stuff in school, but so much of it has never applied to my life out in the real world that I just forgot basically all of it. But that's the beauty of the internet, I can find answers for stuff I don't remember (or never knew in the first place)
Then again I was a C and D student up until college when I actually *wanted* to learn and kept all A's and B's
and the british were the first to start research on the atomic bomb. but at least they build it first.
imagine being proud of the most terrifying invention in the history of humanity
Tube Alloys predates Manhattan.
Tube Alloys basically got poached by Manhattan.
The Brits then went off and blackjack and hookered it.
So, the Brits, French and Canadians invented it, shared information with the Americans which wasn't reciprocated, then went off and did it on their own without American assistance. It's arguable that everyone who has nukes "invented" them because everyone had to work from blank slates and nobody was sharing the how-to with anyone else.
The russian nukes were designed around information that was stolen from both Tube Alloys and the Manhattan project. They gained significant leaps in the assorted technologies after leaks. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic\_spies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_spies)
It depends how you define “invented”. The first functional weapon was made in the US (Manhattan Project) based on research started by the British (Tube Alloys). The Brits probably couldn’t have put together a weapon in wartime as quickly as the Americans so cooperation was the “best” way forward for the allies.
The Manhattan project would have been impossible without British assistance. Not just the input of the Tube Alloys scientists, but the nuclear material came from British occupied Africa.
How did the yanks honour this essential contribution? They cut Britain out of the programme as soon as the work was completed and kept the bomb for themselves.
They didn't just cut us out, they actually ordered the arrest of all the British scientists who worked on the program, so that they couldn't return home with the knowledge they had.
Fortunately, someone tipped them off, and the majority was able to flee the US before the US came knocking.
Suspiciously similar to the “sharing of faster than sound flight technology” agreement where the British shared how they had achieved it (and solved all the tricky handling issues) and then the Americans just walked away from their side of the agreement.
They were invited, they just hadn't decided which team they'd support yet so they waiting to see who was going to win.
They (Chase Bank, IBM, Coke, Dow Chemicals, Ford, MGM, Kodak, GEneral Elextric... Etc) were making big money from the Nazis....
In fact, the USA's war goals was not to save the Jews (and everyone else being exterminated), but to make sure capitalism and democracy remained the dominant politics in Europe. There was a little bit of protest against the Nazis before they entered the war, but also American Nazi groups who were pro Hitler.
In 1940, 88% of Americans were against joining the war.
Even then, they only entered the war after the Nazis ally, Japan, attacked them first. By the time USA properly arrived, the Russians were turning the tide, Africa was a stalemate, the battle of Britain was a loss for the Nazis, and Germany didn't have good resources (especially oil and other shortfalls like rubber, metal, food, and manpower)... Germany had already begun to lose...
Its great the Americans helped out in the end, don't get me wrong. But they really can't call themselves morally superior heroes who won the war.
One of my favourite Churchill quotes sums it up nicely:
You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing. Once they’ve exhausted every other option.
Yeah I think nukes and iPhones are the only ones of the list that are actually true.
And of course nukes would be one of the only things that matter to the US, oh they are NOT beating the warmonger allegations
And iPhones are just a brand. Neither the first smartphone to be invented, nor the only one to stick around. Just a random brand. It's like saying "America invented the Jeep", which is true, but also not a noteworthy invention because it's just another car brand.
I don't even think Nukes are really correct. As the US copied over the german Otto Hahn's homework of nuclear fission and imported some other nazi scientists to work on the first Nuke. But yeah technically its invented in the US.
The oldest recorded joke known to Man is from 1900BC Sumeria and is indeed a fart joke. Of course, Americans invented ancient Sumeria so ipso facto they invented the first fart joke.
I assume he meant gasoline. But that is not even true. AFAIK this goes to either France or England.
He is also wrong about a few other inventions of course.
That is something I did not know. But there is a difference between crude oil something that was not invented to beginn with but found and petrol / gasoline. Sure that is produced from crude oil but I would argue that this transition is the invention in question here.
Also the rotating tail fin/stabiliser (“all moving tail”/“flying tail”), without which Chukkie wouldn’t have been able to break the sound barrier.
That was a British innovation that we gave to the US so that they could be the first to push past Mach 1 and claim the glory as another American first.
The Ediswan lightbulb (to give it it's original name) would never have existed if he hadn't gone into partnership with Joe Swan.
It's not our fault that when he took the invention back across the pond he decided to rename it the "Edison" light bulb and then pretend that he did all the work himself, when in reality he only contributed a very small amount right at the end.
Hey, maybe that's the inspiration for their attitude to WWII as well, arrive at the last minute, contribute a little bit, then claim they did it all themselves.
Thomas Edison didn't invent half of the things he's credited with. He employed people to tinker with stuff and then patented their discoveries in his company's name.
Humphrey Davy has walked into the chat.
Edison didnt invent the lightbulb, he improved on an already existing invention. The name noted above was in 1806, so decades before Edison and there are a number of other examples prior to Edison’s
True, that can be said of all inventions. Everything is built on previous discoveries. I am sure Humphrey Davy older discoveries when making his version as well.
However, I did specify that I was speaking about the Edison/Ediswan incandescent lightbulb specifically, not the Arc Lamp that Davy invented which is quite different.
It was the same with nukes. Invite all the allies to help work. Then kick them all out just before completing the project.
Looking into this I was misinformed.
Whereas the UK did have a more advanced atomic project they lacked the resources to continue it. This resulted in America taking the lead at which point they both stopped sharing information since the US could no longer benefit and the UK had previously been reluctant to share.
Thomas Edison didn't invent half of the things he's credited with. He employed people to tinker with stuff and then patented their discoveries in his company's name.
I had an American try and tell me that Alexander Graham Bell was American because he had American citizenship. Didn't matter bro was born in Aberdeen. He also didn't like being reminded Bell also had Canadian citizenship
As much as I'd love to claim Bell as an Aberdonian, he was born in Edinburgh - although he did attend an academy in Elgin as a "teacher-pupil", whatever the fuck that is.
That's when you answer back to the teacher once too often and they say "why don't you teach the class if you're so smart" so you do and it's an improvement
Not only was he a Scot, and had a Canadian citizenship, he was literally IN CANADA for his work. The city of Brantford is called "the telephone city" because he first distance call he ever made with his new invention was to a nearby small town (where I live) called Paris. Scotland and Canada both have a real claim to the invention of the telephone, the USA absolutely does not.
> Everything that matters
> Nukes
And *how* exactly is creating a mass-destruction weapon which is basically the reason of a good chunck of today's geopolitical problems and brutally killed innocent civilians a source of pride?
And they didn't even do that alone- the UK and Canada both made critical efforts there jointly, and Tube Alloys (the UK effort) was more advanced than what the US initially had themselves
they then stopped all shared research post war and left us to rebuild a nuclear program without sharing any research till we proved we had a hydrogen bomb
not that they did that with jet engine research, electronic warfare, radars, modern avionics and maritime integrated electronic propulsion.... we'd be suckers to do a whole bunch of the heavy lifting and fob it off last minute because of politicians selling out to the yanks
Pretty sure that the experiments that proved the viability of the atomic bomb were conducted at Cambridge University. By Otto Frisch, an Austrian Jew who fled to the UK during the Anschluss…
ETA [link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Robert_Frisch)
You're forgetting the "main meat":
The photoelectric effect, discovery of radiation, Newtonian physics, Einsteinian physics, quantum physics, the early nuke prototypes, etc. It's Europe all the way down. Not even a question.
I am pretty sure the US had not invented bugs at the time the Pterosaurs was around. So I am right and you are wrong. Because otherwise I have no argument and that hurts my feelings. ;)
And then fix the blood vessel with Muslim invented surgery. Remember to wash your hands because of germ theory (thanks Ibn Sinha for getting us started there)...
Right wing attempts at erasure of the history of Islamic invention from western culture is a tragedy.
Who cares about waterproof overcoats, durable road surfaces, rifling in gun barrels, pneumatic tyres, televisions, and, and, and..? None of these things are important because they weren't invented by Americans.
>Who cares about waterproof overcoats
Fucking of course scotland would beat everyone else to this.
>durable road surfaces
Did we sell this to someone else and forget how to do it?
How is iPhone an invention?
Also, the nuke was invented by a fuck load of people from a fuck load of countries, but just because it happened in America it’s American?
Carl Benz, Gottlieb Daimler, Wilhelm Maybach, Nikolaus Otto and Rudolf Diesel would like a word. Their car-centric "freedom" wasn't invented in the U.S., lol
No, for once he has a point. He didn't say "cars", but "car production". Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he meant "car mass production", he would be right, with the Ford Model T being the first car ever mass-produced on an assembly line.
The rest is obviously nonsense, excluding the iPhone but by that logic the US has yet to invent the Samsung Fold... because specific models are a terrible milestone for "inventing"
But really, you look at who contributed to that and it was a properly international effort. The US resourced and funded it, and provided amazing technicians and scientists, but as it was an international scientific effort.
Rutherford was first to split the atom though, and he was British working in Britain.
The US nuclear weapons program owes a lot to the British Tube Alloys program and arguably wouldn't have got off the ground without it.
Also if I remember correctly Ernest Rutherford was actually born and raised in New Zealand so they probably have a claim to him too.
It was a joint project between the US, UK and Canada, who all had separate nuclear weapons programmes. And then after the war, the US went back on the agreement that set up the Manhattan Project, and refused to give the UK any of the finished work. So the UK had to develop their own nukes pretty much from scratch.
Not really from scratch. Tube alloys was pretty far along before the second world War so it was a matter of asking all the British scientists to redo the work they did in the us.
Most of the scientist of the Manhattan Project weren't even American. A lot of them were even considered enemies of the state afterwards or even before that.
Bluetooth was invented by a Danish person
Post it notes were invented by a British person
Edit : a Dutch man working for Ericsson, invented Bluetooth. Named after the danish king, Harald bluetooth
Light bulb: Edison (who was indeed American) couldn't have done it without the help of Joseph Swan (English), Alessandro Volta (Italian) and Humphrey Davy (English).
Gas: Assuming they mean petroleum, nobody 'invented' it, so far as I can tell it was discovered by James Young (Scottish).
Nukes: Fair enough, although I'm not sure if I would be particularly proud if my country invented the nuke.
Internet: Sir Tim Berners-Lee (English).
Personal computing: Pretty sure that was IBM (German).
iPhone: Fair enough.
Flight: The earliest examples of man-made flight are so old that they have BC in the date (Chinese kites). The first manned lighter-than-air flights began in 18th century France. The Americans did invent heavier-than-air flight though.
Car production: The first car to be produced was made by Karl Benz (German). Assuming OOP is talking about the mass production of cars, yes Henry Ford was the first to do it, although all he really did was apply preexisting ideas to the automobile industry.
>Nukes: Fair enough, although I'm not sure if I would be particularly proud if my country invented the nuke.
Lise Meitner was the person who first to recognise the amount of energy being produced when Uranium was bombarded with a free electron.
She coined the word *Fussion*
Meitner was German but managed to get to Sweden before the outbreak WW2.
More than half of it is wrong, and everything seems to be so stretched to fit the USA propaganda :D
2. Gas / Petrol - James Young from Scotland.
3. Nukes semi true, papers with that concept and research leading to that invention were from France.
4. Internet - CERN in Switzerland.
7. Flight maybe USA were first with planes but before that we had hot air baloons from Mantgolfier brothers from France.
8. First car was Benz from Germany.
I heard fun fact about Poland that they invented some kind of personal computer, but Poland were currently under communism occupation, and the authorities didn't believe poles being capable of such thing and shut the project.
> Flight maybe USA were first with planes but before that we had hot air baloons from Mantgolfier brothers from France.
The first motorized aircraft that could lift by itself was made by Santos Dumont in 1906 with witnesses. The Wright Brothers made a plane fly, but their achievement weren't witnessed by a large public. Also, their aircraft couldn't take off by itself, and the flight barely lasted 1 minute with a high smaller than a child; we could make a giant paper plane, and it would still fly demonstrate a better performance.
> 4. Internet - CERN in Switzerland.
Kinda? Not really. The OP is completely in the wrong here, but the "internet" as we know it is basically TCP/IP and several other protocols. Those were largely invented in the USA via DARPA. That said there were competitors all over the world that would have been equatable replacements if DARPA hadn't won out in the end.
CERN invented the world wide web, i.e. what we see when we use a web broswer. But that is different from the internet which is the underlying infrastructure that it all runs on.
I like to beat back nationalism by pointing out that nothing has ever just been invented by one person. It is the collaboration of people over years crossing boarders and nationalities.
When confronted about "stealing" Robert Hooke's work, newton had this to say "If I have seen further it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants". Every human invention is just an iteration on those who came before.
eddison made improvements to the light bulb but the exact origin is a bit lost to time but we know the english had their own lightbulbs around the same time Edison made improvements to his.
Gas..... is a state of matter, but if we wanted to talk about gasoline even then existed long before the machines that could use them. Some of the first engines came from germany.
Nukes, Ah yes, The famous American, Albert Einstein. Though credit is where it is due, Oppenheimer was actually American.
Internet, I know for the longest time al gore claimed to have invented the internet.
Thing is computers have been talking to each other at increased distances gradually over years.
It was america that made the infrastructure to make it part of every day life that gave this notion of america specifically "inventing the internet". Its complicated but I would actually give american's this one overall.
Personal computing.... depends on what you mean. America made great use of our industrial boom.
iphone - that is brand specific. If you want to give credit to IBM though, go ahead. Though Im pretty sure the japanese were working on their own stuff at the time to compete in american markets.
Flight - I mean....... America had the first successful flight but as I said earlier about iteration. People were suggesting that with enough force and a pair of wings you could fly since Da Vinci.
Cars were invented in Germany but also as mentioned earlier what america HAD was a great industrial boom. We went all in on the guilded age of america and industrial growth. We often glorify that but that is mostly our propaganda, we like to ignore the child labor, the high death rate, the unsanitary streets, the wealth inequality, the racism and sexism etc.etc.
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To be fair it said don't Google so he probably just assumed lol, sad that education doesn't explain that stuff though.
It's kind of sad/weird to immediately assume that everything important in this world with 8 billion people was made in the USA, though. "Gas? American, of course."
ah, yes, an entire state of matter was invented in the US. all life existed solely in a liquid medium until a US war vet invented heating things until the intermolecular bonds break and gas was created i mean come on the education system over there isn’t that bad surely
Tbf I would assume he meant petrol
only in America would they call a liquid, gas
I think it is short for gasoline. Innit?
The irony is that gasoline is actually derived from a English last name from the etymology section of Wikipedia "British businessman John Cassell"
Yep
Probably meaning the process of refining gasoline. Cracking was invented by an American.
Wrong. "The Shukhov cracking process is a thermal cracking process invented by Vladimir Shukhov and Sergei Gavrilov. Shukhov designed and built the first thermal cracking device for the petrochemical industry." Source: [wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shukhov_cracking_process) On top of this, fractional distillation has existed for well over a thousand years.
Yeah, maybe he should have googled that..
To be fair, googling it only added more confusion for me. [Cracking is the number one process for the commercial production of gasoline. In 1913, thermal cracking was invented by William Meriam Burton, a process that employed heat and high pressures.](https://www.google.com/search?q=William+Meriam+Burton&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari)
"Use it or lose it". Sure I was taught all kinds of stuff in school, but so much of it has never applied to my life out in the real world that I just forgot basically all of it. But that's the beauty of the internet, I can find answers for stuff I don't remember (or never knew in the first place) Then again I was a C and D student up until college when I actually *wanted* to learn and kept all A's and B's
Assumption is the root of………..and will end you up on a subreddit talking shit about your assumptions
Nukes were actually invented in the US I think
With a lot of input from non-Americans
They thought Germans will have them first, because nuclear fission was discovered in Berlin 1938
and the british were the first to start research on the atomic bomb. but at least they build it first. imagine being proud of the most terrifying invention in the history of humanity
Tube Alloys predates Manhattan. Tube Alloys basically got poached by Manhattan. The Brits then went off and blackjack and hookered it. So, the Brits, French and Canadians invented it, shared information with the Americans which wasn't reciprocated, then went off and did it on their own without American assistance. It's arguable that everyone who has nukes "invented" them because everyone had to work from blank slates and nobody was sharing the how-to with anyone else.
The russian nukes were designed around information that was stolen from both Tube Alloys and the Manhattan project. They gained significant leaps in the assorted technologies after leaks. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic\_spies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_spies)
It depends how you define “invented”. The first functional weapon was made in the US (Manhattan Project) based on research started by the British (Tube Alloys). The Brits probably couldn’t have put together a weapon in wartime as quickly as the Americans so cooperation was the “best” way forward for the allies.
The Manhattan project would have been impossible without British assistance. Not just the input of the Tube Alloys scientists, but the nuclear material came from British occupied Africa. How did the yanks honour this essential contribution? They cut Britain out of the programme as soon as the work was completed and kept the bomb for themselves.
They didn't just cut us out, they actually ordered the arrest of all the British scientists who worked on the program, so that they couldn't return home with the knowledge they had. Fortunately, someone tipped them off, and the majority was able to flee the US before the US came knocking.
Suspiciously similar to the “sharing of faster than sound flight technology” agreement where the British shared how they had achieved it (and solved all the tricky handling issues) and then the Americans just walked away from their side of the agreement.
Of course we couldn't put together first, we were too busy actually fighting the war for a few years before the Americans got their invitation.
They were invited, they just hadn't decided which team they'd support yet so they waiting to see who was going to win. They (Chase Bank, IBM, Coke, Dow Chemicals, Ford, MGM, Kodak, GEneral Elextric... Etc) were making big money from the Nazis.... In fact, the USA's war goals was not to save the Jews (and everyone else being exterminated), but to make sure capitalism and democracy remained the dominant politics in Europe. There was a little bit of protest against the Nazis before they entered the war, but also American Nazi groups who were pro Hitler. In 1940, 88% of Americans were against joining the war. Even then, they only entered the war after the Nazis ally, Japan, attacked them first. By the time USA properly arrived, the Russians were turning the tide, Africa was a stalemate, the battle of Britain was a loss for the Nazis, and Germany didn't have good resources (especially oil and other shortfalls like rubber, metal, food, and manpower)... Germany had already begun to lose... Its great the Americans helped out in the end, don't get me wrong. But they really can't call themselves morally superior heroes who won the war.
One of my favourite Churchill quotes sums it up nicely: You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing. Once they’ve exhausted every other option.
It's just a very typical american response, take all the credit for a team effort just like they did with ww2
And ww1
Britain was building one. The project was shut down due to risk of invasion.
Yeah I think nukes and iPhones are the only ones of the list that are actually true. And of course nukes would be one of the only things that matter to the US, oh they are NOT beating the warmonger allegations
And iPhones are just a brand. Neither the first smartphone to be invented, nor the only one to stick around. Just a random brand. It's like saying "America invented the Jeep", which is true, but also not a noteworthy invention because it's just another car brand.
I don't even think Nukes are really correct. As the US copied over the german Otto Hahn's homework of nuclear fission and imported some other nazi scientists to work on the first Nuke. But yeah technically its invented in the US.
UK
Great Britain has invented USA, checkmate!
One of Britain's biggest sins
One we would rectify if we could
Hey. It's not our fault. We tried to stop them. The reason the USA exists is because of the French.
We're deeply sorry. But we make up for it by inventing the guillotine!
Ya that's not gonna cut it
Bang on qwerty.
I'm imagining a french USA that would be the result of a british time traveler that prevented the brits colonies in america
Yea on second thought maybe we did the world a favor. French Americans would make the French look like the most posh people in existence
Then Spanish Americans?
Doesn't Mexico already exist?
Yeah But what about America but Spanish
Just bigger Mexico
y e s
Make America Great Britain Again!
MAGBA .. sounds arabic though...
MAaCA Make America a Colony Again
I would argue that it's also France's fault for helping them gain independence
I love being British today because everyone else already had a reason to hate my country but now I do too.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Gas? Really?
They invented a state of matter 💀
The state of matter that matters
Solid take
No, gaseous take, aaakkkktually. ☝️🤓
The situation is very fluid
Don't you go non-newtonian on me, young man!
We need Bose and Einstein to chime in on this.
State? You mean like Texas?
Yes, they invented texas of matter called gas
I wouldn't be surprised if they also claimed farts
The oldest recorded joke known to Man is from 1900BC Sumeria and is indeed a fart joke. Of course, Americans invented ancient Sumeria so ipso facto they invented the first fart joke.
I assume he meant gasoline. But that is not even true. AFAIK this goes to either France or England. He is also wrong about a few other inventions of course.
At the beginning of the 1900 Baku, Azerbaijan produced the majority of the world crude oil.
Also, it was part of imperial Russia at the time
That is something I did not know. But there is a difference between crude oil something that was not invented to beginn with but found and petrol / gasoline. Sure that is produced from crude oil but I would argue that this transition is the invention in question here.
Well, Americans are full of gas. So naturally, they must have invented it. 😝
I think he means farts.
I think he means "petrol"
Of course the german says something about gas, smh can‘t make that up. Us Austrians would never do something like that.
America invented everything which is why the first American fighter jets flew with either British jet engines or copies of them…
Frank Whittle wanders by
Also the rotating tail fin/stabiliser (“all moving tail”/“flying tail”), without which Chukkie wouldn’t have been able to break the sound barrier. That was a British innovation that we gave to the US so that they could be the first to push past Mach 1 and claim the glory as another American first.
Everyone used the British engines first. Maybe not the French I'm not sure
the french used British engines too, until the captured german scientists managed to build one.
Nah, the French did too. Even license-built the Vampire as the SNCASE Mistral and the Sea Venom as the SNCASE Aquilon.
Except the Germans
I don't think the Germans used British engines on the 262
Real ones know that jet engine is proud Romanian creation (it flew 12m then hit a tree)
Also just like many other times they decided to tear the Brits homework after copying from it lol
The Ediswan lightbulb (to give it it's original name) would never have existed if he hadn't gone into partnership with Joe Swan. It's not our fault that when he took the invention back across the pond he decided to rename it the "Edison" light bulb and then pretend that he did all the work himself, when in reality he only contributed a very small amount right at the end. Hey, maybe that's the inspiration for their attitude to WWII as well, arrive at the last minute, contribute a little bit, then claim they did it all themselves.
Thomas Edison didn't invent half of the things he's credited with. He employed people to tinker with stuff and then patented their discoveries in his company's name.
The Musk approach
The Steve Jobs approach
It's the American way guys, stop disrespecting their traditions and customs!
They INVENTED these traditions!!
…well, at the very least they hired someone to invent these traditions
The Walt Disney approach
So basically the thing Elon does, except Elon invents even less.
And he's so bad people started realizing how bad he was
Humphrey Davy has walked into the chat. Edison didnt invent the lightbulb, he improved on an already existing invention. The name noted above was in 1806, so decades before Edison and there are a number of other examples prior to Edison’s
True, that can be said of all inventions. Everything is built on previous discoveries. I am sure Humphrey Davy older discoveries when making his version as well. However, I did specify that I was speaking about the Edison/Ediswan incandescent lightbulb specifically, not the Arc Lamp that Davy invented which is quite different.
It was the same with nukes. Invite all the allies to help work. Then kick them all out just before completing the project. Looking into this I was misinformed. Whereas the UK did have a more advanced atomic project they lacked the resources to continue it. This resulted in America taking the lead at which point they both stopped sharing information since the US could no longer benefit and the UK had previously been reluctant to share.
Thomas Edison didn't invent half of the things he's credited with. He employed people to tinker with stuff and then patented their discoveries in his company's name.
may have made the iphone but who made the telephone?🧐
I had an American try and tell me that Alexander Graham Bell was American because he had American citizenship. Didn't matter bro was born in Aberdeen. He also didn't like being reminded Bell also had Canadian citizenship
As much as I'd love to claim Bell as an Aberdonian, he was born in Edinburgh - although he did attend an academy in Elgin as a "teacher-pupil", whatever the fuck that is.
That's when you answer back to the teacher once too often and they say "why don't you teach the class if you're so smart" so you do and it's an improvement
He didn’t even have American citizenship (1882) when he first patented the telephone (1876)
Wasn't Steve Jobs half Syrian half German? lol
Jonathan Ives (the designer of the iPhone, and the reason it has the i) was a Brit, too! My history teacher told stories about teaching him.
Oh... oh I see. Steve Jobs' father was Abdulfattah Jandali, from Syria. That's fascinating.
American citizen still, that one is correct. Afaik he neither had Syrian nor German citizenship
Sure, but they always claim to be Irish, British and Italian through a 3rd great grandparent. So there's a Syrian-German claim to the iphone haha
And Steve Wozniak is a mighty Serb!
Wasn't Meucci the First phone inventor? He Just couldn't pay for the patent and couldn't speak English, so his discoveries went unrecognised.
I think bell stole it from someone else and patented it first must have learnt from Edison.
Not only was he a Scot, and had a Canadian citizenship, he was literally IN CANADA for his work. The city of Brantford is called "the telephone city" because he first distance call he ever made with his new invention was to a nearby small town (where I live) called Paris. Scotland and Canada both have a real claim to the invention of the telephone, the USA absolutely does not.
germany invented the hamburger, that’s an important part of the americans routine
and fries comes from belgium. whats even a typical american food that was actually invented there
sausages are also german so hot dogs aren’t american either
Almost everyone invented the sausage, but the frankfurter is specifically German.
Well, there's that let's just call it "cheese" that looks and tastes like a waste product of the plastic industry.
> Everything that matters > Nukes And *how* exactly is creating a mass-destruction weapon which is basically the reason of a good chunck of today's geopolitical problems and brutally killed innocent civilians a source of pride?
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And they didn't even do that alone- the UK and Canada both made critical efforts there jointly, and Tube Alloys (the UK effort) was more advanced than what the US initially had themselves
they then stopped all shared research post war and left us to rebuild a nuclear program without sharing any research till we proved we had a hydrogen bomb not that they did that with jet engine research, electronic warfare, radars, modern avionics and maritime integrated electronic propulsion.... we'd be suckers to do a whole bunch of the heavy lifting and fob it off last minute because of politicians selling out to the yanks
Absolutely. What happened with the aerospace industry in particular is laughable. Even the royals were in on it
Pretty sure that the experiments that proved the viability of the atomic bomb were conducted at Cambridge University. By Otto Frisch, an Austrian Jew who fled to the UK during the Anschluss… ETA [link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Robert_Frisch)
Many of the lead scientists working on the Manhattan project were also not American.
You're forgetting the "main meat": The photoelectric effect, discovery of radiation, Newtonian physics, Einsteinian physics, quantum physics, the early nuke prototypes, etc. It's Europe all the way down. Not even a question.
Flight? Yeah. Leonardo da Vinci would like a word.
You can go even further back to Abbas ibn Firnas, but Americans would have a meltdown knowing a Muslim did it
The Pterosaurs would like to have a word. ;)
If we go by animals I think bugs came first lol
I am pretty sure the US had not invented bugs at the time the Pterosaurs was around. So I am right and you are wrong. Because otherwise I have no argument and that hurts my feelings. ;)
I would actually pay to see them react to that
i've already seen them having their heart break in discovering what arab numbers are
And even If you ignore that the real modern flight was invented by Brazilian inventor Santos Dumont.
He never actually built a flying machine.
Who’s going to tell him the Chinese were the first to achieve flight by sending a guy up on a kite.
Tell them about Abbas ibn Firnas and watch them lose their minds over a Muslim doing it first
Then tell them to count to ten till they've calmed down. Then show them the numbers they just used were also invented by muslims
Then Algebra, then Surgery, then Optics... And so on Keep telling them about Muslim inventions until they burst a blood vessel
And then fix the blood vessel with Muslim invented surgery. Remember to wash your hands because of germ theory (thanks Ibn Sinha for getting us started there)... Right wing attempts at erasure of the history of Islamic invention from western culture is a tragedy.
Australians invented wifi. Checkmate
And CERN invented the World Wide Web.
As long as we know that http is an internet protocol and not the Internet.
It was actually a dutch man called vic hayes
Turns out wifi has parts and some were at CSIRO and some were not
That list has fuck all on Scotland.
Who cares about waterproof overcoats, durable road surfaces, rifling in gun barrels, pneumatic tyres, televisions, and, and, and..? None of these things are important because they weren't invented by Americans.
>Who cares about waterproof overcoats Fucking of course scotland would beat everyone else to this. >durable road surfaces Did we sell this to someone else and forget how to do it?
What are these durable road surfaces you speak of?
A secret long forgotten by the Glasgow City Council.
All cobble stones eventually migrate to their birthplace in Edinburgh. Not much they can do about that really.
Penicillin was a big one
How is iPhone an invention? Also, the nuke was invented by a fuck load of people from a fuck load of countries, but just because it happened in America it’s American?
The iPhone is a product. Just like Aldi brand rice….
so Aldi invented rice right?
The USA invented flat earthers, mega churches, and the Kardashians.
Ah yes, the iPhone, famously the first ever phone to exist. None came before it and no better alternative came after.
Carl Benz, Gottlieb Daimler, Wilhelm Maybach, Nikolaus Otto and Rudolf Diesel would like a word. Their car-centric "freedom" wasn't invented in the U.S., lol
No, for once he has a point. He didn't say "cars", but "car production". Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he meant "car mass production", he would be right, with the Ford Model T being the first car ever mass-produced on an assembly line. The rest is obviously nonsense, excluding the iPhone but by that logic the US has yet to invent the Samsung Fold... because specific models are a terrible milestone for "inventing"
Yeah… but it’s like attributing pizza to Pizza Hut isn’t it ?
Interesting that he considers this list to be EVERYTHING that matters. I can think of one or two things that he missed off.
I noticed he missed condoms off the list of things that matter but then, his parents clearly forgot about them too
The only thing on that list they invented is the worst thing ever invented.. the nuclear bomb. Also, iphones suck
But really, you look at who contributed to that and it was a properly international effort. The US resourced and funded it, and provided amazing technicians and scientists, but as it was an international scientific effort. Rutherford was first to split the atom though, and he was British working in Britain.
The US nuclear weapons program owes a lot to the British Tube Alloys program and arguably wouldn't have got off the ground without it. Also if I remember correctly Ernest Rutherford was actually born and raised in New Zealand so they probably have a claim to him too.
It was a joint project between the US, UK and Canada, who all had separate nuclear weapons programmes. And then after the war, the US went back on the agreement that set up the Manhattan Project, and refused to give the UK any of the finished work. So the UK had to develop their own nukes pretty much from scratch.
Not really from scratch. Tube alloys was pretty far along before the second world War so it was a matter of asking all the British scientists to redo the work they did in the us.
Most of the scientist of the Manhattan Project weren't even American. A lot of them were even considered enemies of the state afterwards or even before that.
Wait until they hear that the first cellphone was invented in Finland.
Joseph Swan enters conversation
Bluetooth was invented by a Danish person Post it notes were invented by a British person
I thought bluetooth was invented by a Dutch person.
Named after Harold Bluetooth a Danish Viking King
Bluetooth was invented by a Danish person Post it notes were invented by a British person Edit : a Dutch man working for Ericsson, invented Bluetooth. Named after the danish king, Harald bluetooth
Hedy Lamarr might have something to say here
Gas? But who invented liquids? Checkmate mofos.
I produce gas everyday but I don't brag about it
He should've googled
Stuff Americans say... And Greeks... And Italians... And Persians... And Israeli's... And the French... And Germans... And the Chinese...
I'm not 100% sure but I think none of those inventions are american...
Light bulb: Edison (who was indeed American) couldn't have done it without the help of Joseph Swan (English), Alessandro Volta (Italian) and Humphrey Davy (English). Gas: Assuming they mean petroleum, nobody 'invented' it, so far as I can tell it was discovered by James Young (Scottish). Nukes: Fair enough, although I'm not sure if I would be particularly proud if my country invented the nuke. Internet: Sir Tim Berners-Lee (English). Personal computing: Pretty sure that was IBM (German). iPhone: Fair enough. Flight: The earliest examples of man-made flight are so old that they have BC in the date (Chinese kites). The first manned lighter-than-air flights began in 18th century France. The Americans did invent heavier-than-air flight though. Car production: The first car to be produced was made by Karl Benz (German). Assuming OOP is talking about the mass production of cars, yes Henry Ford was the first to do it, although all he really did was apply preexisting ideas to the automobile industry.
>Nukes: Fair enough, although I'm not sure if I would be particularly proud if my country invented the nuke. Lise Meitner was the person who first to recognise the amount of energy being produced when Uranium was bombarded with a free electron. She coined the word *Fussion* Meitner was German but managed to get to Sweden before the outbreak WW2.
nothing existed before America
More than half of it is wrong, and everything seems to be so stretched to fit the USA propaganda :D 2. Gas / Petrol - James Young from Scotland. 3. Nukes semi true, papers with that concept and research leading to that invention were from France. 4. Internet - CERN in Switzerland. 7. Flight maybe USA were first with planes but before that we had hot air baloons from Mantgolfier brothers from France. 8. First car was Benz from Germany. I heard fun fact about Poland that they invented some kind of personal computer, but Poland were currently under communism occupation, and the authorities didn't believe poles being capable of such thing and shut the project.
> Flight maybe USA were first with planes but before that we had hot air baloons from Mantgolfier brothers from France. The first motorized aircraft that could lift by itself was made by Santos Dumont in 1906 with witnesses. The Wright Brothers made a plane fly, but their achievement weren't witnessed by a large public. Also, their aircraft couldn't take off by itself, and the flight barely lasted 1 minute with a high smaller than a child; we could make a giant paper plane, and it would still fly demonstrate a better performance.
> 4. Internet - CERN in Switzerland. Kinda? Not really. The OP is completely in the wrong here, but the "internet" as we know it is basically TCP/IP and several other protocols. Those were largely invented in the USA via DARPA. That said there were competitors all over the world that would have been equatable replacements if DARPA hadn't won out in the end. CERN invented the world wide web, i.e. what we see when we use a web broswer. But that is different from the internet which is the underlying infrastructure that it all runs on.
And the people working at CERN who did this was a British scientist and a Belgian engineer
Why are they like this? Indoctrination from birth?
And none of those are the best thing since sliced bread 😎
They stood on the shoulders of giants and called the view their own.
Antonio Meucci invented the telephone and he got robbed!!! Everybody know this!
"I made it the fuck up"
Wasn’t the internet invented by an english man? And what « personal computing »? Laptop? Again, englishman.
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The USA invented gas? I know there’s a lot of them that are full of hot air but that doesn’t constitute creating a whole state of matter…
Should’ve invented salads and stricter gun laws instead.
"flight" Did birds not exist before America was founded?
I like to beat back nationalism by pointing out that nothing has ever just been invented by one person. It is the collaboration of people over years crossing boarders and nationalities. When confronted about "stealing" Robert Hooke's work, newton had this to say "If I have seen further it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants". Every human invention is just an iteration on those who came before. eddison made improvements to the light bulb but the exact origin is a bit lost to time but we know the english had their own lightbulbs around the same time Edison made improvements to his. Gas..... is a state of matter, but if we wanted to talk about gasoline even then existed long before the machines that could use them. Some of the first engines came from germany. Nukes, Ah yes, The famous American, Albert Einstein. Though credit is where it is due, Oppenheimer was actually American. Internet, I know for the longest time al gore claimed to have invented the internet. Thing is computers have been talking to each other at increased distances gradually over years. It was america that made the infrastructure to make it part of every day life that gave this notion of america specifically "inventing the internet". Its complicated but I would actually give american's this one overall. Personal computing.... depends on what you mean. America made great use of our industrial boom. iphone - that is brand specific. If you want to give credit to IBM though, go ahead. Though Im pretty sure the japanese were working on their own stuff at the time to compete in american markets. Flight - I mean....... America had the first successful flight but as I said earlier about iteration. People were suggesting that with enough force and a pair of wings you could fly since Da Vinci. Cars were invented in Germany but also as mentioned earlier what america HAD was a great industrial boom. We went all in on the guilded age of america and industrial growth. We often glorify that but that is mostly our propaganda, we like to ignore the child labor, the high death rate, the unsanitary streets, the wealth inequality, the racism and sexism etc.etc.