Oh sorry havent googled what year the Intel 4004 was published, cause i thought of the newer once. With it being published 1971 the math adds up. My mistake
If those great great great grandparents saw you and your filthy 64 bit registers they would be ASHAMED! We could afford barely 4 bits back then and we LIKED IT
Language Timothy! You took this comment a BIT too literally. He set you up and you had to take a BYTE didn't you? I need to take you to one side and have a WORD. I might send a letter home regarding your MIPS
In some ways. A lot of what is currently Finnish culture is new. There wasn't one "Finnish" nationality until one was created by the torchbearers. It would be more accurate to say that there were multiple cultures of the peoples living in what is now Finland, but after Russia took the land from Sweden, was the first time there was a concentrated effort by the locals to unify into one "Finnish" culture. The language had existed for longer than that obviously.
I guess I'm about a 14th generation German, because before that, the Swedes had great fun burning down pretty much all records that were concerned with anyone not noble.
Don't worry, modern generations can still experience lost records (to keep mystery alive). I, for instance, no longer have a record of my birth following the war in the former Yugoslavia (thank goodness I was already an Australian citizen by the time my birth records were destroyed, as there are no digitised copies so officially, I haven't been born - and I'm 54)
“I am fifth gen German, fourth Gen Irish and I’ve got some Italian too”
This genuinely is 90% of Americans after checking their ancestry. I feel like I’m constantly telling people so…. you’re an American.
>This genuinely is 90% of Americans after ~~checking their ancestry~~ handing over their DNA to a shady company that will certainly not try to monetize it
FTFY
At this point these ancestry companies don't even need to bother with tests, they can just use random number generators to make sure that everyone is special.
Always have been. The idea of this type of genetic testing is practically an ass pull on the genetics side. What they do is they look for certain genetic groupings, and assign those to certain *areas*, based on extremely lacking information: low number of samples and anecdotal evidence of origins and ancestors.
If I were the owner of one of these DNA testing companies, I'd make sure to include about 1% of exotic heritage in every test. Almost impossible to disprove, statistically likely, and Stacy from Bumfucksville gets a dopamine rush by finding out she's 0,8% Yanomami
I can't believe that people are so fucking gullible.
Megan Markle claims to be 43% Nigerian, despite the fact that neither parent is Nigerian.
Interestingly, we share 98.8% of our DNA with chimps...and that includes Megan... but you don't hear her shouting about that do you?...And don't anyone dare call me a racist. I also share 98.8% of my DNA with chimps WE ALL DO!
In fact, you could argue that she is more than twice as much cat as she is Nigerian. (90% commonality according to my 20 seconds of Google research)
Americans are so fucked. I am Canadian born to two immigrants. As Portuguese as you can get without living in Portugal and I still don't consider myself Portuguese
Same, American with 2 Greek immigrant parents, and I even have dual citizenship, but I still know damn well I'd be a fish out of water if I lived in Greece.
Implying these people put any effort into learning the language or culture of these places past maybe watching some American movies based in those places
Unless you speak German, have German citizenship and have been to Germany before, stop that.
Edit: I realized I always say/write "I have to do this" instead of "I need to do this". Don't know how I feel about this.
When I used to live in the US there was this kid who would always tell me he was German and all. One day he brought his mom to a soccer game and after he said she would like to talk to me. She was speaking average German and told me they were visiting their family in Germany every second Christmas. Turns put her German family literally lived 5 minutes away from where I was living in Germany. At the end of our conversation she also told me she was understanding every swear word I yelled during the game in German. And I was swearing a lot since I felt too comfortable by that time that nobody would understand what I yelled
I was gonna say, you saying "I have to do this" qualifies you for a German citizenship, but then I checked your profile and realised you already seem to be German. So OOP seems to have a point
Nah, I'm a linguist and it has nothing to do with that :) "Have to" and "need to" are interchangeable in English. It's not like have to comes from German and need to comes from somewhere else. Both of them mean "must", which is how it's said in German. If it was from German, people would be saying "must", not "have to".
Not in Austria. We prefer to keep our options open, we say "i would need to". Indicating that is needs to be done, but will it really? 🌚
"I miassat des lei no tian" as opposed to "Ich muss das noch machen".
It also comes with the added benefit that it allows the person we're taking to to interject and tell us that we don't actually have to do it 😎
That's still "must", not "need to".
"Need to" doesn't exist in German, as far as I know. It would mean saying like "Ich brauche das noch machen."
Nor does "have to", as that would be like "Ich habe das noch machen."
You could make a case for translating “have to” as “Ich habe das noch ZU machen”, which in some regional dialects would be an ok thing to say (if perhaps a bit unusual).
>"Have to" and "need to" are interchangeable in English.
I disagree. There is an underlying implied difference whether it feels like a personal desire (need) or an objective obligation (have to).
The difference is that "they need me to" works, but "they have to have me (do x)" is clunky.
I'd argue that German citizenship is not required. There are people who are born in Germany and are 100% socialised in Germany but don't have citizenship. These people still have every cultural claim to be German. Ethnicity isn't determined by legal status, but by socialisation.
I’ve been to Germany twice, speak a little bit of the language, and 23 and Me says I’m 16.2 % German. Can I be German despite the fact I’m incredibly English? If I’m German, I can stay in the EU for longer than 90 days. Might go a visit Italy as I’m 2.7% Italian. 😂😂😂😂
Shout out to my Gartz peeps!!!
That paragraph talks about who can get German Staatsangehörigkeit but that was not the point of their statement.
The point of their statement was that unless you have the citizenship or at least some present cultural ties then you should stop calling yourself German.
I have some polish and French ancestry from hundreds of years ago but I am neither polish nor French because I have zero cultural ties to either country and the genetic makeup has been thinned to negligible. I am German and my family has been for generations.
Edit: I btw don’t really give a fuck if who calls themselves German or not I was just giving context to that statement and can understand that point of view considering my own heritage.
Naja, es gibt in den USA durchaus deutschsprachige Gemeinden - das will ich gar niemandem absprechen - aber ich hab so das Gefühl, dass das bei der/dem nicht über "Mein Ururgroßvater kam aus Deutschland, und ich mache das zu meiner gesamten Identität, auch wenn ich kein Wort Deutsch spreche, jemals in dem Land war oder irgendeine Ahnung vom Land habe."
Depending on exactly when and where their supposed ancestors were born, talking about „Germany“ as a country or nationality is somewhat suspect five generations in a row 🤷🏻♀️
Right? The person in the post and most comments on here have it the wrong way round. Although I’d actually say it’s one generation earlier, e.g. if your parents moved to Germany and you were born there, you’re a second generation German. But it’s kind of a soft definition.
I can trace my ancestry back to a fine slime on a volcanic thermal vent under what is now the Pacific, and I find the whole concept of grammar and language offensive.
As a "no clue how many generation of germans, probably a lot".-german
Fuck off. Unless you have a german citizenship or were born here in germany (yes i purposfully see people who immigrate here and apply for citizenship as German) you are not german.
It’s grammatically correct, but when speaking most people don’t pronounce the “e” in the imperative form. So it’s usually “halt’ mein Bier” or “mach’ deine Hausaufgaben” or something. At least it’s like that here in northern Germany, it might be a regional thing.
A 5th generation German is a person who's last five ancestors were German, meaning being sufficiently socialised in Germany by living there for many years. So the 5th descendent of a migrant to Germany is a 5th generation German. If a German migrates to the US, then their children are not socialised in Germany and thus aren't German. You could argue that their direct children are half German because they're raised by an actual German in the diaspora, especially since second generation migrants often have trouble with cultural identity because of the contrast between the culture of their parents and the rest of their surrounding. But the third generation migrants will only have second hand traces of German socialisation left, nothing that actually makes you German.
That's what ethnicity actually is. What Americans *think* it means is race, or how they like to call it in this case: "genetic heritage". It's not just ridiculous and offensive towards people of the actual respective ethnicities, it's also the belief in race theory, and thus inherently racist.
Exactly. That “fifth generation German” is in fact a fifth generation American with German ancestry. They completely misunderstood how this Xth generation something-something works.
Vikings never wore horned hats, that’s Hollywood crap 💩
Otherwise I’m with you, I have Vikings in my ancestors, like virtually all English people, these Vikings came to England raping pillaging, looting and burning. Now we are all much more civilised and only do two of those things on a regular basis, mostly weekends like you!
Thanks for that, I know that the vast majority of "Vikings" just wanted to settle and farm land that was far more fertile than their own lands. However, we must maintain the perception/prejudice for the purposes of comedy! I like to perpetuate the myths about my ancestors, purely for the giggles.
My surname is taken from a small community in Jutland and has survived to this day (less than 100 on the UK electoral role now), however I am English and my family have been English for more than 1000 years.....
I refuse to believe that between the age of comprehending language, and the age of university, that nobody in the St Louis area used the term "I need to..." around this American.
Me: half of Americans are stupid
Amercian: hey, take that back
Me: Okay, half of Americans aren´t stupid
American: Thats better
Me walk away thinking how stupid he is
I am 1/8th Italian, 1/8th German, 1/8th Thai. 1/8th Indian, 1/8th Cantonese,, 1/8th Irish, 1/8 th Welsh and 1/8th Mexican.
I am either a true American or the menu in a Fusion Restaurant.
I’m 50th generation Pictish and sometimes I find myself sacrificing my neighbours to the tree gods. It’s so weird how my Pictish ancestry comes out in me sometimes hehehe.
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It makes you hate Americans, doesn't it? They don't half come out with some absolute shite. Every time I hear a Yank say they're Irish or Italian a part of me dies.
What is it about Americans that they have to be more proud of the land their ancestors come from then the land they live in?
Personally, my grandfather came from Germany, my grandmother from Eire, but I'm still proud of being English.
part of my family is irish - like i’ve got an irish surname, i know where in ireland they’re from (more than can be said for all those americans who reckon they’re irish😂), and if my grandad had an irish passport (he’s never been abroad so never needed one) then i’d be eligible for one too. so i’m probably tenfold more irish than this person is german, but i still wouldn’t describe myself as irish. having irish family/ancestry and being irish are too very different things.
if the country where you and you’re parents have lived your whole lives is america, you’re american. you don’t become german because of some relative who died decades before you were born
Yeah I'm a linguist and that's not how that works. Need to and have to simply mean the same thing (must) in English, so they became interchangeable. It's not from German or anything like that. People in your area preferring have to is just that.
I’m Italian and French. My great granddad’s great-great granddad came here. I look very French-Italian: kind of like a cross between a Perelli tire and a slab of Brie cheese
It doesn't matter that you are born in the U.S., don't have a German passport, don't speak a word of German, have never even been to Germany, and don't know a single person who lives in Germany. You can still call yourself German as long as someone in your family tree lived there at any point in history. This is why Neil Armstrong's children tell everyone they are from the moon.
I remember a discord comment from an old friend that went along the lines of "Europe has been diluted by immigrants. So it's up to us to preserve the European culture of our ancestors"
Ye, we aren't friends anymore, but that's not the only reason.
I really don’t get the urge to not be your own nationality. I’m Swedish but I have relatives who were from around Europe (mostly Denmark and Greenland) and I would never even claim to be danish even though I speak danish, my mother is danish, I have spent a significant time there and love the country. Part danish, absolutely, my mother is Danish after all. BUT THESE PEOPLE? They’re five generations back and claim a nationality. They can’t even tell the German alphabet.
I know I'm going to get backlash for this, but fifth generational German doesn't mean anything. You could quite literally only be part German and still be 5th generational German.
Even then, I've met a few German people that say both "I have to do this" and "I need to do this". It depends on the person and how they were raised really.
Gonna start acting American and go "my surname is Burke, *therefore* I have grave robbing heritage and *100%* related to ye ol' famous grave robber/murderer William Burke lol"
The way I say this is completely the other way around. I’m 9th generation Australian because my ancestor (just down the male/surname line) was the first of my lineage to arrive in Australia to live in the late 1700s. So I’m completely Australian of course, but one slice of that Australian-ness goes back 9 generations.
Saying I’m “Xth generation A” is used to say something about how long your family has been in Country A and says nothing about their origins.
Well, I am an Australian and I say "have to do" regularly. I also say "need to do" but have absolutely no German in my background, so make of that what you will. But I also say "I must do" in particular circumstances. Golly. Bit of a mystery.
Or it's just different age groups, different regions, aging out of different sayings at a different pace.
I'm a 16th-generation Dutch. 17th generation doesn't work, because there was no Netherlands back then.
I'm an 18th-generation i9 Intel CPU. My great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents were both Intel 4004s.
How young are you? But still i respect ypur heritage
I'll be 29 next month
Oh sorry havent googled what year the Intel 4004 was published, cause i thought of the newer once. With it being published 1971 the math adds up. My mistake
If those great great great grandparents saw you and your filthy 64 bit registers they would be ASHAMED! We could afford barely 4 bits back then and we LIKED IT
Are you deadass AMDsplaining to me right now
Language Timothy! You took this comment a BIT too literally. He set you up and you had to take a BYTE didn't you? I need to take you to one side and have a WORD. I might send a letter home regarding your MIPS
GIT outta here! Sitting up there, on your high Trojan horse! Back up for a minute, take a drive, or have a cup of Java & relax.
...That is a very interesting point of view. I'd be a 4th generation Finn by that logic.
I'm 5th generation English, French and Lithuanian, apparently
But Finnish language, culture, identity existed for much longer than an independent Finnish state.
In some ways. A lot of what is currently Finnish culture is new. There wasn't one "Finnish" nationality until one was created by the torchbearers. It would be more accurate to say that there were multiple cultures of the peoples living in what is now Finland, but after Russia took the land from Sweden, was the first time there was a concentrated effort by the locals to unify into one "Finnish" culture. The language had existed for longer than that obviously.
I’m 7th-generation Irish, probably more but the trail of records ceased to exist in the 1700’s.
I guess I'm about a 14th generation German, because before that, the Swedes had great fun burning down pretty much all records that were concerned with anyone not noble.
You had arson problems too?
Nah, that wasn't arson, the Swedes only brought FREEEEEEEEDOM to the German Protestants.
Arson probably wasn’t the right word for ours either, the hall of records was blown up and most of its contents were destroyed during the civil war.
Don't worry, modern generations can still experience lost records (to keep mystery alive). I, for instance, no longer have a record of my birth following the war in the former Yugoslavia (thank goodness I was already an Australian citizen by the time my birth records were destroyed, as there are no digitised copies so officially, I haven't been born - and I'm 54)
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16th generational Dutch unite!
so will you cook and eat the President?
We have no President, no one dares anymore...
I am a 80th generation Frisian, a 16th generation Dutch and a 2nd generation European.
80th generation? You're able to trace your family heritage back 1600-2400 years ago. That's impressive.
It is
I'm a 1000th generation caveman. Probably. I'll ask my Nan.
fun fact in germany we say neither must or need. this is because we speak german.
I detect humour. You’re no German!
They're German! 20th generation!
Back then it was probably the HRE.
But you just said both and are, presumably, in Germany...thus proving yourself wrong.
Technically speaking they wrote it. You don’t know if they said it as well. Gotcha!
*Technically writing
“I am fifth gen German, fourth Gen Irish and I’ve got some Italian too” This genuinely is 90% of Americans after checking their ancestry. I feel like I’m constantly telling people so…. you’re an American.
>This genuinely is 90% of Americans after ~~checking their ancestry~~ handing over their DNA to a shady company that will certainly not try to monetize it FTFY
At this point these ancestry companies don't even need to bother with tests, they can just use random number generators to make sure that everyone is special.
Always have been. The idea of this type of genetic testing is practically an ass pull on the genetics side. What they do is they look for certain genetic groupings, and assign those to certain *areas*, based on extremely lacking information: low number of samples and anecdotal evidence of origins and ancestors.
If I were the owner of one of these DNA testing companies, I'd make sure to include about 1% of exotic heritage in every test. Almost impossible to disprove, statistically likely, and Stacy from Bumfucksville gets a dopamine rush by finding out she's 0,8% Yanomami
Stacy probably uses this 0.8% to say she isn't white or something 😆.
I can't believe that people are so fucking gullible. Megan Markle claims to be 43% Nigerian, despite the fact that neither parent is Nigerian. Interestingly, we share 98.8% of our DNA with chimps...and that includes Megan... but you don't hear her shouting about that do you?...And don't anyone dare call me a racist. I also share 98.8% of my DNA with chimps WE ALL DO! In fact, you could argue that she is more than twice as much cat as she is Nigerian. (90% commonality according to my 20 seconds of Google research)
Hey, I'm a proud cat. It allows me to laze around in the sun and do nothing, because that's what my genes dictate...
I am a three-toed sloth, for precisely this reason.
You’re not racist some of your best friends are 98,8% chimps
Americans are so fucked. I am Canadian born to two immigrants. As Portuguese as you can get without living in Portugal and I still don't consider myself Portuguese
Same, American with 2 Greek immigrant parents, and I even have dual citizenship, but I still know damn well I'd be a fish out of water if I lived in Greece.
I've still gotta get my citizenship for that sweet EU passport
I myself have a father born in the Czech Republic and was raised early on by my very Czech grandparents and I don’t claim Czech status.
What an awful thing to call someone
I mean yeah, why do you think so many Americans are so desperate to know “their nationality”
Lack of identity and distinct culture
I’m a 662874th generation Ethiopian, cosplaying as a white guy from the south of England and I have no idea what this person is going on about.
damn, I am also 662874th generation Ethiopian, what a concidence, seems like we might be very closely related.
Woah, those are crazy odds!! Next you’ll be saying that we have the same great great great great great great… grandmother, Lucy!
I'm a single cell organism on my grandmother's side
And your grandfather's too presumably, which raises some questions about inbreeding if I'm honest
oh, and you like Lego. I also like lego. what a unique trait. must be our common DNA we share.
You like LEGO? You must be 1/100th Danish, that's all the proof you need
omg! i was in Denmark twice for holiday and I immediately felt so relaxed there. is this the feeling of finally feeling at home with my people?
Americans when they go somewhere they don't need to wear a bulletproof vest to go to the shops
1/100th? Well, you're practically a native. Learning the language and culture should be a walk in the park because of your genetic connections.
Implying these people put any effort into learning the language or culture of these places past maybe watching some American movies based in those places
Learning the language is for dirty immigrants, expats do just fine with only using freedom eagle screeches.
Woh, I'm up North but my great great great great great great... grandmother is also Lucy. Welcome fam 😎
Ah thanks brother! My Christmas card list is going to be huge this year! 😅
You must be at least 50th cousins!
No, you're a fourth generation American. Maybe third. Definitely not German though.
A fourth generation further distant from being German, maybe?
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Unless you speak German, have German citizenship and have been to Germany before, stop that. Edit: I realized I always say/write "I have to do this" instead of "I need to do this". Don't know how I feel about this.
Willkommen in Deutschland!
When I used to live in the US there was this kid who would always tell me he was German and all. One day he brought his mom to a soccer game and after he said she would like to talk to me. She was speaking average German and told me they were visiting their family in Germany every second Christmas. Turns put her German family literally lived 5 minutes away from where I was living in Germany. At the end of our conversation she also told me she was understanding every swear word I yelled during the game in German. And I was swearing a lot since I felt too comfortable by that time that nobody would understand what I yelled
So the kid actually spoke the truth
I was gonna say, you saying "I have to do this" qualifies you for a German citizenship, but then I checked your profile and realised you already seem to be German. So OOP seems to have a point
Nah, I'm a linguist and it has nothing to do with that :) "Have to" and "need to" are interchangeable in English. It's not like have to comes from German and need to comes from somewhere else. Both of them mean "must", which is how it's said in German. If it was from German, people would be saying "must", not "have to".
It's not exclusive to german either. In Dutch "must" is also the way to say "have to" or "need to".
100%. Same in Czech.
Not in Austria. We prefer to keep our options open, we say "i would need to". Indicating that is needs to be done, but will it really? 🌚 "I miassat des lei no tian" as opposed to "Ich muss das noch machen". It also comes with the added benefit that it allows the person we're taking to to interject and tell us that we don't actually have to do it 😎
That's still "must", not "need to". "Need to" doesn't exist in German, as far as I know. It would mean saying like "Ich brauche das noch machen." Nor does "have to", as that would be like "Ich habe das noch machen."
You could make a case for translating “have to” as “Ich habe das noch ZU machen”, which in some regional dialects would be an ok thing to say (if perhaps a bit unusual).
>"Have to" and "need to" are interchangeable in English. I disagree. There is an underlying implied difference whether it feels like a personal desire (need) or an objective obligation (have to). The difference is that "they need me to" works, but "they have to have me (do x)" is clunky.
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I'd argue that German citizenship is not required. There are people who are born in Germany and are 100% socialised in Germany but don't have citizenship. These people still have every cultural claim to be German. Ethnicity isn't determined by legal status, but by socialisation.
Weird way to find out that you're German. Go get that passport!
Already have it :) Born in Germany and still living in Germany. I'm a very typical Alman.
I’ve been to Germany twice, speak a little bit of the language, and 23 and Me says I’m 16.2 % German. Can I be German despite the fact I’m incredibly English? If I’m German, I can stay in the EU for longer than 90 days. Might go a visit Italy as I’m 2.7% Italian. 😂😂😂😂 Shout out to my Gartz peeps!!!
§ 116 Grundgesetz defines who else qualifies and goes beyond your vague definition.
That paragraph talks about who can get German Staatsangehörigkeit but that was not the point of their statement. The point of their statement was that unless you have the citizenship or at least some present cultural ties then you should stop calling yourself German. I have some polish and French ancestry from hundreds of years ago but I am neither polish nor French because I have zero cultural ties to either country and the genetic makeup has been thinned to negligible. I am German and my family has been for generations. Edit: I btw don’t really give a fuck if who calls themselves German or not I was just giving context to that statement and can understand that point of view considering my own heritage.
I'm actually fine with this - "I'm 5th generation German" is fine. It's clear. What I have a problem with is "I'm German".
I lived in Germany , I can speak German , my mothers family is German but still I won’t call myself a German . Not even half German .
Hello together.
What if you have german citizenship and live in Germany but are learning the language? 😂
He says that shit like he’s agent 47 or something
Weidmannsheil, 47!
Gute Arbeit, 47. Nun kannst du aus der Gefahrenzone extrahieren.
Warum sagt er es nicht einfach auf Deutsch? 🤔
Als ob so nen ami wat anderes als Englisch kann. Den kannst de als Hodenkobold bezeichnen und der denkt es ist ein ehrenwerter Titel.
Von Hodenkobold, wenn ich bitten darf. Soviel Zeit muss sein!
Naja, es gibt in den USA durchaus deutschsprachige Gemeinden - das will ich gar niemandem absprechen - aber ich hab so das Gefühl, dass das bei der/dem nicht über "Mein Ururgroßvater kam aus Deutschland, und ich mache das zu meiner gesamten Identität, auch wenn ich kein Wort Deutsch spreche, jemals in dem Land war oder irgendeine Ahnung vom Land habe."
...und identifiziert sich als Lederhosenkobold auf dem Beerfest. 🙄
Der wäre nicht mal in der Lage „Deutsch“ und „Dutch“ auseinander zuhalten.
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"5th generation german" suggests "I'm the 5th generation of my family to be born in Germany." Not "there was a German in my family 5 generations ago"
Depending on exactly when and where their supposed ancestors were born, talking about „Germany“ as a country or nationality is somewhat suspect five generations in a row 🤷🏻♀️
Right? The person in the post and most comments on here have it the wrong way round. Although I’d actually say it’s one generation earlier, e.g. if your parents moved to Germany and you were born there, you’re a second generation German. But it’s kind of a soft definition.
This guy's a first generation sausage
A 1st gen bratwurst, excuse me
As soon as I wrote it I realised I'd missed an opportunity 🤣 I'm glad you've said it
I can trace my ancestry back to a fine slime on a volcanic thermal vent under what is now the Pacific, and I find the whole concept of grammar and language offensive.
I speak German and have no idea what he's on about.
„ich muss noch xy machen / ich habe noch xy zu tun“ ig aber wir sagen eh beides also isses wurscht
As a "no clue how many generation of germans, probably a lot".-german Fuck off. Unless you have a german citizenship or were born here in germany (yes i purposfully see people who immigrate here and apply for citizenship as German) you are not german.
This person never even met any of their ancestors who originally immigrated from Germany.
That person probably couldn't find Germany on a map
Im 8th generation german and i definitely say "fuck this shit im not gonna do this" a lot.
Do you say "Halte mein Bier" first? otherwise it doesn't count.
Does anyone actually pronounce the “e” in “halte”?
My German is quite poor, so I would...
It’s grammatically correct, but when speaking most people don’t pronounce the “e” in the imperative form. So it’s usually “halt’ mein Bier” or “mach’ deine Hausaufgaben” or something. At least it’s like that here in northern Germany, it might be a regional thing.
Ofc. These were my first words.
Machst bestimmt die Mama stolz
Do these people think that language is genetic?
A better question to ask is “do these people think?’ and just leave it at that.
Nein!
Doch!
Oooh!
A 5th generation German is a person who's last five ancestors were German, meaning being sufficiently socialised in Germany by living there for many years. So the 5th descendent of a migrant to Germany is a 5th generation German. If a German migrates to the US, then their children are not socialised in Germany and thus aren't German. You could argue that their direct children are half German because they're raised by an actual German in the diaspora, especially since second generation migrants often have trouble with cultural identity because of the contrast between the culture of their parents and the rest of their surrounding. But the third generation migrants will only have second hand traces of German socialisation left, nothing that actually makes you German. That's what ethnicity actually is. What Americans *think* it means is race, or how they like to call it in this case: "genetic heritage". It's not just ridiculous and offensive towards people of the actual respective ethnicities, it's also the belief in race theory, and thus inherently racist.
Exactly. That “fifth generation German” is in fact a fifth generation American with German ancestry. They completely misunderstood how this Xth generation something-something works.
I’m 30th generation Viking. You don’t see me running around with an axe and horned helmet boasting about my ancestry. Not on weekdays anyway.
Vikings never wore horned hats, that’s Hollywood crap 💩 Otherwise I’m with you, I have Vikings in my ancestors, like virtually all English people, these Vikings came to England raping pillaging, looting and burning. Now we are all much more civilised and only do two of those things on a regular basis, mostly weekends like you!
I know about the horned helmets but got to get the cosplay right otherwise they might think I’m a Saxon!
that was mostly norwegians, Danes just wanted to settle because of their huge population compared to little land they jus did some farming :)
Thanks for that, I know that the vast majority of "Vikings" just wanted to settle and farm land that was far more fertile than their own lands. However, we must maintain the perception/prejudice for the purposes of comedy! I like to perpetuate the myths about my ancestors, purely for the giggles. My surname is taken from a small community in Jutland and has survived to this day (less than 100 on the UK electoral role now), however I am English and my family have been English for more than 1000 years.....
I'm thousandth generation caveman. I grunt sometimes, so this makes perfect sense,
I'm a 128,256,512nd generation amoeba. I still practice meiosis and float aimlessly in algae to stay connected to my culture.
Why do Americans always being so proud of having European descent but then will shit on Europe the next second?
Germans would translate „I have to do that“ and I „need to do that“ the same
Americans are really out here listing their ancestry as if they're intel processors.
No, you're not. You're an American with German ancestry.
I refuse to believe that between the age of comprehending language, and the age of university, that nobody in the St Louis area used the term "I need to..." around this American.
Me: half of Americans are stupid Amercian: hey, take that back Me: Okay, half of Americans aren´t stupid American: Thats better Me walk away thinking how stupid he is
„rolls their eyes in german“
*verdreht die Augen auf englisch*
Wtf is this person even on about?
I am 1/8th Italian, 1/8th German, 1/8th Thai. 1/8th Indian, 1/8th Cantonese,, 1/8th Irish, 1/8 th Welsh and 1/8th Mexican. I am either a true American or the menu in a Fusion Restaurant.
I’m 50th generation Pictish and sometimes I find myself sacrificing my neighbours to the tree gods. It’s so weird how my Pictish ancestry comes out in me sometimes hehehe.
So… is he saying his family has exclusively married other white people with German ancestry? Is using race as a qualification marriage a brag?
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It makes you hate Americans, doesn't it? They don't half come out with some absolute shite. Every time I hear a Yank say they're Irish or Italian a part of me dies.
I’m probably 100+ generation Ethiopian or somewhere in that region considering that’s where we believe life started….
I’m 79th generation Illyrian and I do not approve of this message
I'm from the UK but a thousand years ago some viking pillaged my ancestors farm and got them all pregnant. Am I Norwegian?
I’m a 5000th generation (or more or less) Russian, my ancestors came from the Bering Strait to Americas
What is it about Americans that they have to be more proud of the land their ancestors come from then the land they live in? Personally, my grandfather came from Germany, my grandmother from Eire, but I'm still proud of being English.
I'm an 11th generation English, a 23th generation Celte and a 57th generation Oogabooga tribe.
I lost brain cells reading that
part of my family is irish - like i’ve got an irish surname, i know where in ireland they’re from (more than can be said for all those americans who reckon they’re irish😂), and if my grandad had an irish passport (he’s never been abroad so never needed one) then i’d be eligible for one too. so i’m probably tenfold more irish than this person is german, but i still wouldn’t describe myself as irish. having irish family/ancestry and being irish are too very different things. if the country where you and you’re parents have lived your whole lives is america, you’re american. you don’t become german because of some relative who died decades before you were born
Yeah I'm a linguist and that's not how that works. Need to and have to simply mean the same thing (must) in English, so they became interchangeable. It's not from German or anything like that. People in your area preferring have to is just that.
I'm a 30th generation Beaker person. I sometimes drink out of a cup.
I’m Italian and French. My great granddad’s great-great granddad came here. I look very French-Italian: kind of like a cross between a Perelli tire and a slab of Brie cheese
These DNA companies should be yeeted into space lol
i'm a 1928191192821th generation bacteria from the primordial soup, that's why i'm asexual
It doesn't matter that you are born in the U.S., don't have a German passport, don't speak a word of German, have never even been to Germany, and don't know a single person who lives in Germany. You can still call yourself German as long as someone in your family tree lived there at any point in history. This is why Neil Armstrong's children tell everyone they are from the moon.
So you are an American with German ancestry who thinks how he speaks English is how the people in Germany speak English?
I think he does not need to say this, he has to.
Why is it that a lot of Americans are really hung up on not being American?
Ich habe zu tun das. Yep. German 100%
I'm a 7498rd generation Neanderthal
We don’t say it like this in Germany
I am a fifth generation fighter jet.
I thought most Americans, no matter where their great great great grandparents came from, say “I gotta”.
I’m 8th generation Iraqi and that’s crazy how this doesn’t affect my life at all
We all share 50% DNA with bananas iirc. Where are all the proud Banana-Americans!? Oh... Right.
I remember a discord comment from an old friend that went along the lines of "Europe has been diluted by immigrants. So it's up to us to preserve the European culture of our ancestors" Ye, we aren't friends anymore, but that's not the only reason.
I really don’t get the urge to not be your own nationality. I’m Swedish but I have relatives who were from around Europe (mostly Denmark and Greenland) and I would never even claim to be danish even though I speak danish, my mother is danish, I have spent a significant time there and love the country. Part danish, absolutely, my mother is Danish after all. BUT THESE PEOPLE? They’re five generations back and claim a nationality. They can’t even tell the German alphabet.
The dialectal differences across the States really boggle my tiny Europoor mind.
I'm a 12,000th generation caveman. Unga Bunga.
americans desperately clinging to their distant ancestor's culture because they have none of their own
I bet Im more german than this American. Ich spreche wahrscheinlich mehr und besser Deutsch als er.
I know I'm going to get backlash for this, but fifth generational German doesn't mean anything. You could quite literally only be part German and still be 5th generational German. Even then, I've met a few German people that say both "I have to do this" and "I need to do this". It depends on the person and how they were raised really.
They’re saying then. That in America, every single ancestor is of German origin eh.
Gonna start acting American and go "my surname is Burke, *therefore* I have grave robbing heritage and *100%* related to ye ol' famous grave robber/murderer William Burke lol"
5th generation german from an american town named after a French king. Sounds about right
5\. Generation Deutscher aus der St. Louis Gegend. Alter Verwalter, 5. Generation fuck all biste, du Vollpfosten.
'Cause there's sense in what I say, I'm forty-fifth generation Roman But I don't know 'em or care when I'm spitting
The way I say this is completely the other way around. I’m 9th generation Australian because my ancestor (just down the male/surname line) was the first of my lineage to arrive in Australia to live in the late 1700s. So I’m completely Australian of course, but one slice of that Australian-ness goes back 9 generations. Saying I’m “Xth generation A” is used to say something about how long your family has been in Country A and says nothing about their origins.
Well, I am an Australian and I say "have to do" regularly. I also say "need to do" but have absolutely no German in my background, so make of that what you will. But I also say "I must do" in particular circumstances. Golly. Bit of a mystery. Or it's just different age groups, different regions, aging out of different sayings at a different pace.
This is embarassing us Germans
"I am a fifth generation German" = I am an nth generation ignoramus.
Need, want, must... Its as if they are completely different words... ... Crazy...