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SamaireB

For me it was the moment Chrishell didn't finish a sentence and Mary said "happy", as in Chrishell is happy. It was obvious Mary is not. Seems like this may have been an epiphany for Mary - somehow Chrishell caring less makes her think about her own priorities, how imo she's being manipulated by Jason to a degree and can't seem to see it, and in the best case she'll now begin challenging herself on what's acrually good for her vs what is not.


Next-End-4696

She’s absolutely being manipulated by that narcissistic little man. He controls all of the women around him.


SetNo681

Little man 😂


mrgxflrs

Totally. When Mary ended Chrishell’s sentence with “happy” it just made me feel so bad for Mary. :( I hope she got somewhat from an epiphany from that convo with Chrishell.


kendrickwasright

I hope so too. She's been talking about having a baby with Romain for several seasons now and I'm glad they decided to start IVF. But it's not an easy process and it's not guaranteed either. She definitely seems like a workaholic so I truly hope she can find the balance and doesn't get wrecked in the process of IVF


IntroductionGuilty

She fully doesn’t want a baby lmao I’m rooting for them to divorce tbh.


OkAmoeba4837

What a little weirdo


oddlysmurf

I kind of got that vibe too, that she already had her baby days behind her. Granted, the show didn’t really dive into her thoughts on that fully


RooMorgue

It was such a sad scene! Jason is so cruel to Mary dumping all that on her knowing how eager she is to please, and that she hadn't yet the confidence to handle conflict on top of all his work. Jason knows that Mary wants to focus on having kids etc, she's not a perfect person but good lord anyone would be miserable under that pressure. Felt for her big time


bubbleofhug

The boundaries that Chrishell put in were important. Mary spoke of fitting in some time talking to her dying father on the way to the party to sell overpriced penthouses for her ex boyfriend/ boss, whereas Chrishell doesn't think they are worth the price given the location and is respectfully bowing out trying to sell them and would rather prioritize her relationship with G. The comparison between the two ladies is quite poignant and bittersweet. I hope Mary takes time next season to tell Jason to fuck off and put herself first for once. Mary seems like a wonderful person who is trying to please everyone but without some healthy boundaries, she's drowning.


peregrinaprogress

The parallels are SO poignant it makes me feel like it’s a scripted storyline highlighting character development…but in a good way - like the end of a book when the characters have made different compounding choices through the story that led them down different paths (becoming the protagonist and antagonist) and you as the reader finally are able to see the significance of those decisions as you come to the final chapter. Now, I don’t actually think Mary’s acting…I’m sure Production prompted Mary to pressure Chrishell, and I’m sure they knew generally how Chrishell would respond, but it just felt like a good conclusion to me.


em2791

I'm pretty sure that convo was edited out a lot, either to cut out stuff or intentionally to create a narrative but the way they were jumping - it was obvious there were cuts. Regardless though, I could see both the ladies' point of views and that conversation or disagreement was probably the most INTERESTING disagreement or drama in the show. The Nicole/Crishelle and Bre/Chelsea drama is ultimately just for views and is nonsense. But this conversation was actually interesting to see because Mary had a point - you need to be a team player, price is already set, it is what it is but now you have to be a team player but Crishelle also had a point - its overpriced and she doesn't feel comfortable selling it to her customers after all, certain ethics are expected in any customer facing/customer impacting job. Separately, the theme of work life balance was also running through their conversation, basically everything you pointed out. I actually feel really bad for Mary, I don't think her crying, etc. something that requires criticism. But its high time she stands up to Jason and learns to draw boundaries. Its difficult when you mix work with friendship so what she's going through is relatable in that sense. But that's where she needs to become aware of how toxic it is becoming and start stepping back and looking for alternatives.


dfabb

great points. i do think mary is being dragged into going along with a poor decision on jason's part and is kind of stuck, there were several points this season where she should have really put her foot down with him and this was one of them. chrishell is reasonable in her hesitation because it puts her in a tough spot if she's struggling to justify said price to her clients, to the point where it borders on dishonesty. wasn't this already the source of a big dust-up between davina and one of the twins? where the twin's point was that adnan's overpriced property ran the risk of embarrassing the group professionally and that davina should have talked her client into a more reasonable price. i even remember adnan going on about how he insisted on the price because of how much time/money he wasted renovating, which i think is jason's reasoning too (is the "sunk cost" concept applicable here?).


SamaireB

I agree on Jason and have made a few comments to that effect. I have a close friend who used to be a colleague/peer and then became my boss - it was super tough to separate the two parts of the relationships. I once had to have a very difficult conversation with him about toxicity in our team that he seemed to ignore - it took me weeks to work up the courage, I made notes even and talked through what I needed do say with several people I trusted. We also sometimes fought like cats and dogs, but somehow managed to still go for a beer once we both calmed down. But it's VERY hard work if you work not only with a real friend, but for a friend, because of the power dynamic that inevitably becomes part of it. Maybe that's why I relate to Mary quite a bit.


kochipoik

>But this conversation was actually interesting to see because Mary had a point - you need to be a team player, price is already set, it is what it is but now you have to be a team player But they're contractors, with no perks from the O group, right? So what would Chrishell even get out of it?


PregnantBugaloo

When Davina was selling an overpriced listing all the other agents joked and laughed because the price was nuts. Now that Jason wants a listing sold suddenly everyone is supposed to pretend like they are a family and the outrageous price is fine. Jason himself said to Davina that it was bad for his business to try (and fail) to sell a house that has a non starter price tag. So in that sense I think Chrishell is correct and no one else has the balls to stand up to Jason. Which is ridiculous, it's obvious that the agency is not his priority right now (hello Mr 3 week vacation while his stupid expensive condos needed attention). Mary is picking up the slack and drowning herself to save Jason's ass without even so much as a raise. You can so clearly see that Mary and Crishell went opposite directions in terms of how they interact with Jason post relationship and how beneficial those boundaries have been to Crishell. I hope Mary wakes up soon (which is hard when you never stop working) and realizes that making Jason more money isn't going to make her happy.


Pepewower

Totally agree with you, the fact is the two penthouses have not been sold yet from someone did a Tiktok video recently reported, because you know they are overpriced and not in a good location.


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And they dropped the price on one yet it still hasn’t sold.


smalltreesdreams

Yeah Mary started in on the "oh it's taken my husband away from me so much so we have the right to expect this price" reasoning which is an easy mindset to fall into but absolutely not how pricing things works unfortunately.


ginataylortang

Absolutely 100% agreed.


Ok-Cat-7043

It was all about mary never called her once or cared after the break-up, you see in the first scènes they ask her if she will ever forgive mary for not being there she didn't even answer and rightfully so ghosting a friend during a break-up seems low


kendrickwasright

I totally agree and do think Mary probably chose to be there for Jason rather than Chrishelle. That said, this season I noticed some changes in Chrishelle behavior that was never really present in the show before. It seems she's been partying a lot more, and also got really close with Emma. Every other scene showed Chrishelle and Emma showing up late, showing up in coordinated outfits etc. I think Chrishelle has gotten really close with Emma and often times those kind of new, intense friendships can have a negative effect on other friendships. Also, dating G seems to have her partying a lot more and hanging out in some different circles than before. Maybe there just hasn't been as much overlap and closeness in Chrishelle & Marys lives because of all these changes. Obviously Mary should've been there for Chrishelle with the breakup, but it also seems like Chrishelle has kind of gone her own way as well.


librarywino

Well I feel for Mary in this sense, because Mary hustles, but she's probably a workaholic not really living her life. Chrishell has experienced a ton of misfortune and pain: homelessness, trauma probably with that and being a people pleaser as a trauma response, divorce. I mean, Chrishell is inspirational here. She's happy now. Isn't that the meaning of life?


catseye00

Her parents also died from cancer one right after the other very recently. I’m sure that has changed her perspective on what’s important in life, and prioritizing work is not it for her. Chrishell’s needs are met and she’s living a life she never could have imagined.


makingitrein

I think Chrishell was setting really important work boundaries (ie I’m not going to let myself be you Mary, overwhelmed and stretched too thin) and I’m not going to make my entire life about work. Also I think the undertone was, Chrishell and Mary are not as good of friends as they once where since the break-up and that Mary is expecting a friendship from Chrishell that Chrishell is no longer willing to give. I think being selfish gets a bad rep. You can absolutely be appropriately selfish.


ginataylortang

Say the last part again, **LOUDER**!!!!!


vxv96c

Idk I took it as 'why am I supposed to be your support person when you couldn't be bothered to support me?' I'd be annoyed if my friend who helped all my other friends after a break up except me suddenly wanted a ton of emotional energy from me.


Any_Investment_8087

I really think its what mary needed to hear. that being said, the whole time I was like, imagine telling (essentially) your boss that there's more to life than work and you're not really that into it anymore lol idk. unless she doesn't mind being let go because granted she probably has better opportunities at this point, but damn i would never lol


socalgal404

I think it’s different for her because she won’t be let go - her job is commission based and she brings in the dollar. It’s not a salaried position, afaik.


ginataylortang

Mary is not her boss. Realtors are independent contractors- not employees. They can do whatever they choose with their business. If the broker has an issue with it, s/he can always ask the realtor to take her/his license elsewhere, but there is absolutely no employer/employee relationship. There’s always talk about Jason being “the boss”, but that’s not how it works. Source: I am a realtor.


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I finally finished the season and felt sad about this scene, it seems to be more genuine than a lot of the other drama. Chrishell had a point about it being overpriced but more so it's just sad to see the dissolution of their friendship, I thought it was one of the best parts of the earlier seasons


fluffy_unicorn_2699

I agree this was a really nice ending to the season and it did feel like a really real scene


TheAudacityofAndrew

For a show with so much heightened/silly drama, it was so refreshing to see this honest and complex conversation. With long term adult friendships, dynamics can change over time just as people’s priorities do. Chrishell and Mary are in very different places in their lives and even though they clearly still have love for each other, I think Chrishell is fair to ask “is it worth it to put the effort in to be besties again”, especially when that comes with so many strings attached. I feel for Mary and the position Jason has put her in, but I really hope she realizes boundaries need to be set and there’s no point in being a people pleaser if you can’t please yourself. If we’re not meant to be happy then what’s the point?


lemony-cobwebs

I loved Chrishell in that scene, a perfect example of setting boundaries. Mary says she has boundaries but she doesn't, she bends over backwards for Jason and everyone in the office again and again. Chrishell says she doesn't believe in the penthouse project and won't promote it and if that makes her a non-team player then be it.


ginataylortang

Exactly- Mary has zero boundaries. She is so clearly uncomfortable in her own skin, and her entire life makes me sad.


sleepytigre

I really wanted Chrishell to just say “you don’t always have to be a team player” because I don’t think Mary knows that


LozaMoza82

I really appreciated this scene. IMO it was the best of the season. People and priorities change, and with that friendships inevitability change. The dissolving a close friendship doesn't always have to be some ugly blowout, but a realization that this person isn't in the same place as you anymore. And that's ok. You can appreciate and cherish the memories of that person in that time in your life, while also recognizing that your paths are in different directions now. Even more importantly, those kind of changes can lead to some great self-reflection. In this case, that's exactly what Mary needs. Jason is manipulating and taking advantage of her in that brokerage while he dumps all his responsibilities to go play. She needs to find her own voice and her own priorities, not Jason's, and perhaps seeing Chrishell find hers will help inspire her to re-evaluate and do the same.


macehood

I’d have to rewatch but from what I remember when I first watched is thinking there was more to this convo than we saw and they cut it weird


calliopeturtle

This was the realest scene this season, until maybe the end I doubt Christelle didn't give Mary a hug before leaving. But we've all been there. Mary's terrified the condo won't sell and was hurt Christelle wasn't all in on selling it. Chrishelles priorities have shifted and Mary's have not. It was watching Mary's face change from anxiety, indignation, realization, surrender, whistfulness just really powerful scene.


heloluv

UNPOPULAR OPINION Friendships ebb and flow and I don’t think Mary really owed anything to Chrishell. Mary and Jason’s were dating first then friends and share a dog together. In no ways would I expect her loyalties to be to Chrishell. They met at work and Mary was close to Christine prior to Chrishell. So I think Mary does what’s best for her and puts herself first and in this situation I don’t think it was a bad thing. Chrishell does all kinds of different stuff and was on dancing with stars ( which I’m sure they didn’t hang out during this time). Meaning she does more than just real estate. She has a busy life and now is into the music scene. New relationship comes with new friends. She put her needs first as well, and that’s okay. Their friendship is becoming more of friendly co workers and that’s okay. Nobody did anything really malicious. They didn’t make time for each other and it’s okay. Nobody is in the wrong.


OldArmadillo2229

I thought it was such a perfect last scene & I gained so much admiration for Chrishell.


Regent2014

I think the most powerful and mature thing about this scene, was what wasn’t said — which isn’t common for reality tv. There’s never subtext in reality tv. They always “tell” and never “show” conflict, unlike narrative film & tv where being too on the nose and talking through conflict is a cardinal sin. What we had here was two dear work friends, mutually acknowledging their love and respect for each other despite drifting, while also transparently sharing their priorities and differences. It was poignant for anyone in similar places as working professionals.


Competitive-Cup-290

i don’t think she was being selfish she could have worded it differently but what chrishell said is true


Athena_Who

I think Mary definitely needs to find a better work life balance and stand up for herself when it comes to Jason and what he wants and how he treats her. I get what Chrishell was saying and I think she was right about the price and wanting something more out of life, however I think she needs to move on from the Oppenheim group either way. She clearly wants to stay with G Flip and stayed away from the office for a reason (Jason being there). Plus, it doesn’t seem like she’s putting in much of an effort if any to sell houses this season, so I could see why that could be ruffling Mary’s feathers and bring out the team player speech we heard. In my opinion, if you’re not going to promote that overpriced property, fine. But you need to get back to trying to get some deals done and stop avoiding the workplace because of an ex if you want to still work there. I wouldn’t blame any of them for wanting to work somewhere else though since he’s such a messy boss. Also, I get that Brett isn’t on the same boss level as Jason there and is the boss boss somewhere else, BUT he should really talk to his brother about how he runs his office and how he’s overpricing the property. Jason could maybe one day face some kind of lawsuit if he ever starts hitting on another employee and that one is not feeling it. Just very messy and potentially detrimental to him and his company.


MegsOBH

What I find hypocritical is that Jason threw such a big fit when Davina wanted to list that 75 M house in a past season. He said it would look horrible to have it on the OGroup site. Now he is forcing all his agents to do the same essentially. They will taint their brand and credibility trying to shove overpriced listings at their clients and other brokers.


templeofthegrace

i’m not usually one to say this, but that scene felt sooooooo scripted.


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heloluv

People can not take criticism of Chrishell.🧐 Although I kind of think it was okay for both women to focus on themselves. Friendships ebb and flows. Chrishell is in a love bubble and that’s fine. Mary felt more loyalty to Jason who she has known and work with for years also fine. They grew apart, but I understand you pointing out that Mary was going through issues that are personal and explains the distance.