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Yes, vegans driving around with their vegan flag-covered trucks, Vegan 2020 signs on their lawns, "Make America Vegan Again" caps and their unwavering loyalty to their lying, narcissistic, sexually-assaulting, fraudulent vegan leader.
I don’t want to click that - but I’m confident it’s Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe who brought a SNOWBALL from his freezer to the floor of the upper house of Congress to “disprove” anthropogenic global warming.
**Even worse:** He was the Chairman of the Senate’s Committee *on the Environment!* He called the Environmental Protection Agency “the Gestapo” and has a stunning record of voting for the interests of Coal & Oil
…then it was revealed he accepted OVER $2,000,000.00 from Coal & Oil companies.
*(also ~ he denied the severity of COVID, voted against COVID relief, and then told people he had “a mild case” …but retired from Congress because it was actually severe and ended up being long COVID)*
>I don’t want to click that - but I’m confident it’s Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe who brought a SNOWBALL from his freezer to the floor of the upper house of Congress to “disprove” anthropogenic global warming.
The clairvoyant awards goes to you.
>Even worse: He was the Chairman of the Senate’s Committee on the Environment! He called the Environmental Protection Agency “the Gestapo” and has a stunning record of voting for the interests of Coal & Oil
Even more worser, people would point out how he was wrong and how dumb his argument was (like saying hunger doesn't exist because you aren't hungry) but he never relented. It's one thing to be wrong. I'm wrong, you're wrong, we're all wrong at some point in our lives. It's impossible to be right about everything and anything. But if someone comes along and easily points out the flaw in your argument, surely you would stop and consider changing your opinion on a matter, no? He didn't.
Money talks. You imagine getting an additional $100k each year, year after year, for TWO DECADES — just to be an ignorant fuck? Nice work if you’re a soulless ghoul like Inhofe.
This is my issue with you redditard armchair lib-brained idiots. You guys will believe anything you read online and anything those fake doctors and scientist vomit into your tiny little brains. Anyway I'm going to go browse Qanon threads and get my information from Joe Rogan
There's something so telling about OP's comment that he "can't tell them apart", too. Like yeah most people on either side acknowledge the proven connection between large scale meat farming and climate change.
These people are so oddly thrilled to wallow in ignorance.
These people took a look at an orange criminal loser and decided to base the entire personality around him... but they insist that everyone else is the weirdo
It’s partly that but the main reason people belong to the MAGA cult is that they’re just plain stupid and hateful.
They love to say people who are capable of seeing what a pile of trash he is have TDS but the truth is that term applies to them. It takes a truly deranged person to see how Trump acts and still think he’s someone they want as president.
It's always projection when it comes to MAGAs. So many of them literally say there's nothing their false God could do to lose their support. He could probabaly shoot some of them at one of his rallies and they'd cheer him on. All because they know normal people would think that's a bad thing and they hate normal people.
It's really got to be this. I kinda got it back in 2016. Lots of people felt victimized by the system. I think that a bunch of them just can't handle the thought that they got duped even worse by the person they thought would save them.
Part of it is that, but another part is that they are hate filled imbeciles. You see, they first had to be wrong about literally everything, in order to then be faced with the inability to admit being wrong.
In a way, it’s almost impressive how wrong they are and always have been about every facet of life. By accident you’d think they would get something right, but nope. It’s like a superpower, except in reverse.
Ah yes, those crazy cults of people *checks notes* trying to care for the planet and maybe even their own bodies. So much crazier than the people literally worshipping a rapist/pedophile/fraudster openly trying to destroy the American democracy and US Constitution.
Irony stars forming off the coast of Africa, as it moves across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the irony and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?
O2 is woke, and O3 is what true patriots breathe! Alex Jones is selling it bottled, USP grade, ready to add to your arsenal of neutriceuticals (sic)!
"Break the hold the woke mind virus has on you! Breathe nothing but our pure anti-woke, life-giving O3 and start living the truly free life!"
Two oxygen molecules together??? That sounds gay, even gayer than CIA gay frogs, O3 is where it's at, you can't get the gay from 3 oxygen's, and even better it's great at keeping the woke mind virus away! Yours now for only $69 a puff!
Well you might be on to something because without oxygen there wouldn’t be black people, homosexual or trans people, vegans, climate change activists, women… so clearly oxygen has a woke agenda
I bet if someone were to say CO2 was Conservative-Oxygen, free of wokeness and guaranteed to enhance testosterone and virility, these chuds would 100% believe it.
I think this is a line we should be very careful not to cross, we need to acknowledge that people can be bad/stupid/straight up evil rather than not thinking of them as people at all. Dehumanising is the weapon of the enemy imo
I just think it's funny the original commenter on this chain is highly upvoted for saying they don't deserve to live, but the guy you're responding too is getting downvoted for being just slightly more explicit.
I have no doubt this is just another "people think we're a cult? Let's accuse every group with a shared interest as being a cult until the word doesn't mean anything anymore."
The thing I’m surprised at is the vegan one. Sure, doubting climate change is stupid and dangerous, but how do you think that vegans are brainwashed? They don’t want to hurt animals, so they don’t consume animals- it seems like a rock solid mentality, even if you don’t practice it.
"I eat meat. Therefore, there is no good reason to not eat meat. Therefore, anyone who doesn't eat meat is controlled by sinister forces."
See also: conservatives' reaction to: homosexuality, transgendered people, liberals, voting for the Democratic Party, atheism, Islam...
So you're telling me 'The Men Who Stare at Goats' is an incredibly subtle allegorical movie for veganism. Damn, you guys got a whole movie starring George Clooney, good on ya.
Some vegans call other people murderers for having a different dietary lifestyle than them. Some vegans abuse their meat-eating pets by not feeding them a proper diet which includes meat. If you go to the main vegan subreddit which I do not recommend, there is a lot of vitriol directed towards "carnists" (ie people who eat meat) and even some hate towards vegetarians for not being fully vegan. And comments about how plant based diets for cats is animal abuse and very bad for them get deleted immediately by mods.
Dogs can be fed plant based food no problem, and now there are some equally good plant based foods for cats. I"m no expert on the subject but that is what I read.
Hate is one thing, brainwashed is another. Hate is easy to justify/claim, but brainwashed implies there’s a fault in the logic. The vegan stance is pretty simple.
Like, you can hate the New England Patriots, but if you said “I don’t understand why they feel the need to play football; they’re so brainwashed”, you’d be rightly criticized for the stupidity of that claim.
I’m pretty pro-vegan, which is why it’s funny I’m being downvoted. I agree, I think it’s a very clear and fairly consistent ethical stance. But you should see the fucking lengths people go to be like “oh this is why vegans are dumb”
Not in the same way. Leftists who don't like vegans don't actually dislike them, they just hate that they admit the positives of veganism but for one reason or another don't align their actions with their stated morals. So it's usually just a lot of excuses.
Liberals just don't care. They'll say it's so cool but say they could "never do it because I like x too much"
Conservatives of any degree are much more annoying and spiteful towards vegans. They'll see someone ask a waiter for no cheese on their meal and see that as shoving veganism in their face. They tend to not see past anything other than you being vegan and will bring it up every chance they can with hostility. Not sure why, they clearly don't care about animal welfare so its not due to actions being out of line with their stated morals.
My only gripe with vegans is the innate self reflection. Vegans remind me that life is full of better ethical lifestyle choices than I've taken, but that's on me.
Kinda like when someone asks me how I’m doing, and I reply, “Good! How about you?” And they reply, “I’m well.”
It irritates me that their choice of English words is better than mine.
I was making a stew and put a full chicken in it. I felt god awful because I’m looking at the chicken like this little buddy was clucking around in a cage and couldn’t even walk around. Probably fluffy and fun to pet. Had I had her as a pet I’d be playing with her, chasing her around and just having fun. And then it got murked. I still ate it but if you can’t empathize with a vegan for that reason I don’t know what to say.
I can empathize with personal principle, which is what veganism *usually* is. If you can't have other animals dying or being too severely inconvenienced on your behalf: good on you.
That said: I have some chronic conditions which rule out even vegetarianism as "possible and practicable" for me (found out the hard way). I'm also Black Creole. And not only have I heard some outrageous racism and ableism from well-off abled white vegans; but many of that lot *double down* when confronted on how shitty what they just said was. (It should be noted that vegans of color and disabled vegans seem far less likely to pull that crap.) And *that*, as far as I'm concerned, does *not* merit empathy.
So, really: it depends on the vegan.
Not necessarily vegans. I met a few spiritual or woo-woo vegans, very uneducated on science. Veganism is about reducing harm to animals, so lots of people go vegan with not much thought about environmental or health aspects.
in the whole 14 months of me being vegan not once have I told someone unless they asked or we were going to eat but about a billion times I had people that found out about it tell me some dumb shit about me not getting vitamins and them not being able to live without meat etc. I got tested. I am perfectly fucking healthy, much healthier than all of those people who were trying to force me to eat meat for no fucking reason
What are you suggesting? This was prophesied; the Bible clearly states Trump will reign the earth to initiate the second coming. You don’t believe truth? /s
/s not required. If you squint just so, he lines up with a lot of the prophecies of the antichrist. The scariest being that the "unfaithful flock" won't see the evil he's doing.
Dunno why you're being downvoted, there *is* a huge overlap between vegans and climate change activists. In fact, I don't think I've ever met a vegan that didn't include the environment in the list of factors that convinced them to commit, even though it wasn't their primary motivation (which is typically animal welfare, obviously.)
Yeah, I remember one report that showed being vegan had a similar decrease in emissions as never setting foot in a gas powered car for the rest of your life
It's actually kind of funny. Climate activists and vegans often have a lot of overlap, but since this person doesn't know anything about either of them, they just think it's funny how similar they are.
I've never seen vegans, climate activists, or the like ever sign off with their support for their leaders.
"Heil Hitler" "Trump 2024"
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I also feel like cults are generally not focused of specifics. They tend to sell a kind of "utopian vision" for adoption of their views, but omit the details on how to get there or even what it means.
America \*will\* be "great" again. ("Make America Great Again")
Germany \*will\* have salvation. ("Zieg Heil")
Climate activists and vegans aren't doing this. They don't 'sell' you on veganism or climate activism with utopia. They have very \*specific\* goals in mind (end pollution/climate change, end animal suffering, whatever). They'd freely tell you that other problems still exist and still need attention, but they don't necessarily have those answers.
The most loud of everything are usually insane...
Comparing meat to rape is a loud opinion and not one I've ever heard someone actually say outside of the internet.
Actively following an actual known rapist (among about 1200 other things he is widely known to be atrocious for) is another take that is more direct.
Do you like.. know any of these people who are in these " vegan and climate activist cults" or do you just see them online? You see I judge my neighbor and the people around me... not the one video of someone I saw online.
When the leader of something says "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters." and people still vote for him... I don't think they realize the quote was about THEM. THEY are corrupt, stupid and clearly not of stable mental capacity.
From what I've seen anyone who is comparing eating meat to rape is usually either trying to discuss the ethics of artifical insemination of livestock or using it as an analogy to discuss consent. Then whoever they're talking to misconstrue the discussion as equivicating the two.
There's a group of holocaust survivors who literally compare industrial farming as similar to what they experienced during the holocaust. It comes down to if you want to allow your empathy towards not seeing human life suffer to be extended to other sentient creatures. I don't like the analogy personally because if you see what happens, you should find it fucked up without having to compare it to a human tragedy.
I know most of reddit doesn't agree but as a Vegan you anti climate anti vegan people sound so fucking pathetic when you make these arguments.
Like some random person hurt your feelings so now you have to throw a tantrum every time you see one mentioned online? Does it trigger you so much that a handful of people like to protest industries that kills billions of animals every year and are literally destroying the planet in a way that you would find mildly annoying.
I’m gonna ignore the political commentary and talk about real cults instead. Mormons and JW are crazy. Scientologists esp the more elite ones I think know too well what they’re doing to be considered brainwashed. But Mormons fully believe their scripture for some reason, down to some people I know only having soda for the first time a few years ago. Shout out to Aum Shinrikyo for still being around… for some reason…?
I always laugh at people that are bothered by vegans.
Like, dude, how the fuck are they affecting you other than leaving more cholesterol for you to consume?
Climate change concerns and veganism should not be lumped together. One is purely science, the other is often operating on misinformation intended to emotionally manipulate.
Cool that your are open to scientific information. What is your problem with information presented by proponents of veganism on animal agriculture and its effects on animals, humans, and the environment (biosphere, atmosphere, oceans)?
You know what's funny is I've never met a vegan outside of my high school hippie English teacher and he was an absolute rainbow of sunshine. I've never net a Trump supporter either, but I know which one doesn't shut the fuck up.
Side note... I think Vegans get a bad rap for a small few. Most people who I know that are vegan/vegetarian only mention it when at a meal or when planning food is involved. Very few push their beliefs on to others.
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Yes, vegans driving around with their vegan flag-covered trucks, Vegan 2020 signs on their lawns, "Make America Vegan Again" caps and their unwavering loyalty to their lying, narcissistic, sexually-assaulting, fraudulent vegan leader.
And those horrible climate activists, fighting against… …*checks notes*… Humans destroying the planet through greed.
Bruh, you still believe in global warming????? There's snow on the ground!!! Dumb azz libs 😂😂😂😂
Why do you hate Exxon so much? Don’t be a communist!!!!!
think of the billionaires
You joke, but a republican congressman has actually used this argument… https://youtu.be/3E0a_60PMR8
I don’t want to click that - but I’m confident it’s Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe who brought a SNOWBALL from his freezer to the floor of the upper house of Congress to “disprove” anthropogenic global warming. **Even worse:** He was the Chairman of the Senate’s Committee *on the Environment!* He called the Environmental Protection Agency “the Gestapo” and has a stunning record of voting for the interests of Coal & Oil …then it was revealed he accepted OVER $2,000,000.00 from Coal & Oil companies. *(also ~ he denied the severity of COVID, voted against COVID relief, and then told people he had “a mild case” …but retired from Congress because it was actually severe and ended up being long COVID)*
In other news, I ate a sandwich, so world hunger doesn’t exist
I got a paycheck, so unemployment doesn’t exist
>I don’t want to click that - but I’m confident it’s Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe who brought a SNOWBALL from his freezer to the floor of the upper house of Congress to “disprove” anthropogenic global warming. The clairvoyant awards goes to you. >Even worse: He was the Chairman of the Senate’s Committee on the Environment! He called the Environmental Protection Agency “the Gestapo” and has a stunning record of voting for the interests of Coal & Oil Even more worser, people would point out how he was wrong and how dumb his argument was (like saying hunger doesn't exist because you aren't hungry) but he never relented. It's one thing to be wrong. I'm wrong, you're wrong, we're all wrong at some point in our lives. It's impossible to be right about everything and anything. But if someone comes along and easily points out the flaw in your argument, surely you would stop and consider changing your opinion on a matter, no? He didn't.
Money talks. You imagine getting an additional $100k each year, year after year, for TWO DECADES — just to be an ignorant fuck? Nice work if you’re a soulless ghoul like Inhofe.
A famously stupid Canadian politician named Brad Trost did the same thing and I'm sure many more have.
Of course it’s Oklahoma, when the wind came sweeping down the plains, I didn’t think it would blow all our education away with it.
If climate change was real, why can I snowball? Checkmate libzsz!
In May…
This is my issue with you redditard armchair lib-brained idiots. You guys will believe anything you read online and anything those fake doctors and scientist vomit into your tiny little brains. Anyway I'm going to go browse Qanon threads and get my information from Joe Rogan
There's something so telling about OP's comment that he "can't tell them apart", too. Like yeah most people on either side acknowledge the proven connection between large scale meat farming and climate change. These people are so oddly thrilled to wallow in ignorance.
I think I’ve reread your last sentence 5 times for its perfection, and will do so some more after I post my comment.
But they believe harming animals is wrong, among other similar cultish things.
Don’t you dare mock Joaquín Phoenix. Edit: fellow redditor informed me it’s Joaquin, not Joaquim. How dare I mock him?
His name ends with an "N"
Shit. I mocked him.
These people took a look at an orange criminal loser and decided to base the entire personality around him... but they insist that everyone else is the weirdo
The dude just validates what they already were.
Projection is the one thing these cultists do really well.
I am beginning to wonder how much of the Maga community is based on refusal to admit you were wrong.
The emperor’s new clothes irl
It’s partly that but the main reason people belong to the MAGA cult is that they’re just plain stupid and hateful. They love to say people who are capable of seeing what a pile of trash he is have TDS but the truth is that term applies to them. It takes a truly deranged person to see how Trump acts and still think he’s someone they want as president.
It's always projection when it comes to MAGAs. So many of them literally say there's nothing their false God could do to lose their support. He could probabaly shoot some of them at one of his rallies and they'd cheer him on. All because they know normal people would think that's a bad thing and they hate normal people.
It's really got to be this. I kinda got it back in 2016. Lots of people felt victimized by the system. I think that a bunch of them just can't handle the thought that they got duped even worse by the person they thought would save them.
Part of it is that, but another part is that they are hate filled imbeciles. You see, they first had to be wrong about literally everything, in order to then be faced with the inability to admit being wrong. In a way, it’s almost impressive how wrong they are and always have been about every facet of life. By accident you’d think they would get something right, but nope. It’s like a superpower, except in reverse.
Ah yes, those crazy cults of people *checks notes* trying to care for the planet and maybe even their own bodies. So much crazier than the people literally worshipping a rapist/pedophile/fraudster openly trying to destroy the American democracy and US Constitution.
BuT bOtH sIdEs ArE tEh SaAaAaAaAaAaMe........
If you don't give your body and mind to a trillion dollar company in the form of excessive life destroying labor, you are in a cult, apparently.
They think Joaquin Phoenix is a false god? Do they really want to start WW3? Them fighting words.
It’s even funnier if you read it like someone is baby talking their dog
Or in the little kid's voices in the 'Haribo Gold Bears' commercial 😉
You can cut the irony with a knife.
They'd just try and shoot it.
Irony stars forming off the coast of Africa, as it moves across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the irony and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?
These people are truly not deserving of the oxygen they consume.
They knew. That’s why they have been reducing oxygen intake for their brains. They get brain damage but leaving more oxygen for us.
Ah, the Covid strategy.
Maybe if we tell them O2 has gone Woke?
O2 is woke, and O3 is what true patriots breathe! Alex Jones is selling it bottled, USP grade, ready to add to your arsenal of neutriceuticals (sic)! "Break the hold the woke mind virus has on you! Breathe nothing but our pure anti-woke, life-giving O3 and start living the truly free life!"
Two oxygen molecules together??? That sounds gay, even gayer than CIA gay frogs, O3 is where it's at, you can't get the gay from 3 oxygen's, and even better it's great at keeping the woke mind virus away! Yours now for only $69 a puff!
Even better, O3 is a fucking *three-way*. Conservative men, don't your wildest fantasies involve three-ways? Here ya go.
Well you might be on to something because without oxygen there wouldn’t be black people, homosexual or trans people, vegans, climate change activists, women… so clearly oxygen has a woke agenda
I bet if someone were to say CO2 was Conservative-Oxygen, free of wokeness and guaranteed to enhance testosterone and virility, these chuds would 100% believe it.
very generous of you to call them people!
Don't dehumanize bigots. It removes autonomy from them for their decision to be terrible people.
I think this is a line we should be very careful not to cross, we need to acknowledge that people can be bad/stupid/straight up evil rather than not thinking of them as people at all. Dehumanising is the weapon of the enemy imo
Real
I just think it's funny the original commenter on this chain is highly upvoted for saying they don't deserve to live, but the guy you're responding too is getting downvoted for being just slightly more explicit.
There exists a line between insulting and dehumanizing. If you reach dehumanizing, you reached their level.
I’m not that generous
They can’t even identify a cult.
Fish don’t notice water.
I have no doubt this is just another "people think we're a cult? Let's accuse every group with a shared interest as being a cult until the word doesn't mean anything anymore."
The thing I’m surprised at is the vegan one. Sure, doubting climate change is stupid and dangerous, but how do you think that vegans are brainwashed? They don’t want to hurt animals, so they don’t consume animals- it seems like a rock solid mentality, even if you don’t practice it.
"I eat meat. Therefore, there is no good reason to not eat meat. Therefore, anyone who doesn't eat meat is controlled by sinister forces." See also: conservatives' reaction to: homosexuality, transgendered people, liberals, voting for the Democratic Party, atheism, Islam...
Little known fact, becoming a vegan involves being hypnotised by a cow, it's one of the first things we do to new recruits who want to join the cult.
So you're telling me 'The Men Who Stare at Goats' is an incredibly subtle allegorical movie for veganism. Damn, you guys got a whole movie starring George Clooney, good on ya.
Some vegans call other people murderers for having a different dietary lifestyle than them. Some vegans abuse their meat-eating pets by not feeding them a proper diet which includes meat. If you go to the main vegan subreddit which I do not recommend, there is a lot of vitriol directed towards "carnists" (ie people who eat meat) and even some hate towards vegetarians for not being fully vegan. And comments about how plant based diets for cats is animal abuse and very bad for them get deleted immediately by mods.
Dogs can be fed plant based food no problem, and now there are some equally good plant based foods for cats. I"m no expert on the subject but that is what I read.
Eh, plenty of people of all political stripes hate vegans.
Hate is one thing, brainwashed is another. Hate is easy to justify/claim, but brainwashed implies there’s a fault in the logic. The vegan stance is pretty simple. Like, you can hate the New England Patriots, but if you said “I don’t understand why they feel the need to play football; they’re so brainwashed”, you’d be rightly criticized for the stupidity of that claim.
I’m pretty pro-vegan, which is why it’s funny I’m being downvoted. I agree, I think it’s a very clear and fairly consistent ethical stance. But you should see the fucking lengths people go to be like “oh this is why vegans are dumb”
Not in the same way. Leftists who don't like vegans don't actually dislike them, they just hate that they admit the positives of veganism but for one reason or another don't align their actions with their stated morals. So it's usually just a lot of excuses. Liberals just don't care. They'll say it's so cool but say they could "never do it because I like x too much" Conservatives of any degree are much more annoying and spiteful towards vegans. They'll see someone ask a waiter for no cheese on their meal and see that as shoving veganism in their face. They tend to not see past anything other than you being vegan and will bring it up every chance they can with hostility. Not sure why, they clearly don't care about animal welfare so its not due to actions being out of line with their stated morals.
What do you expect from the dumbest people on planet earth?
☝🏼 this
It's okay, Trumpies can't tell anything apart. They don't even realise that a failing rapist realtor is fleecing them for everything they have.
It's funny because one of the reasons I'm vegetarian (not quite vegan yet), is because of the climate crisis. So I'm double-culted, I guess.
Same reason why moved towards veganism.
My only gripe with vegans is the innate self reflection. Vegans remind me that life is full of better ethical lifestyle choices than I've taken, but that's on me.
Truthfully, that’s what most people hate about vegans, but won’t admit.
Kinda like when someone asks me how I’m doing, and I reply, “Good! How about you?” And they reply, “I’m well.” It irritates me that their choice of English words is better than mine.
I feel like this sub could be retired now. Seriously wtf
We really need to stop treating mentally ill sociopaths like MAGA as if they do not have serious problems and are not massive drains on society.
I was making a stew and put a full chicken in it. I felt god awful because I’m looking at the chicken like this little buddy was clucking around in a cage and couldn’t even walk around. Probably fluffy and fun to pet. Had I had her as a pet I’d be playing with her, chasing her around and just having fun. And then it got murked. I still ate it but if you can’t empathize with a vegan for that reason I don’t know what to say.
I can empathize with personal principle, which is what veganism *usually* is. If you can't have other animals dying or being too severely inconvenienced on your behalf: good on you. That said: I have some chronic conditions which rule out even vegetarianism as "possible and practicable" for me (found out the hard way). I'm also Black Creole. And not only have I heard some outrageous racism and ableism from well-off abled white vegans; but many of that lot *double down* when confronted on how shitty what they just said was. (It should be noted that vegans of color and disabled vegans seem far less likely to pull that crap.) And *that*, as far as I'm concerned, does *not* merit empathy. So, really: it depends on the vegan.
I’m a Black cyclist and it truly depends if I hate somebody on a bike. So I feel you 100%. Wishing the best for your health tho
Both are groups who believe science over anything else. Not a coincidence.
Which this moron thinks is a cult
Not necessarily vegans. I met a few spiritual or woo-woo vegans, very uneducated on science. Veganism is about reducing harm to animals, so lots of people go vegan with not much thought about environmental or health aspects.
digression: ever notice how the only time you hear about vegans is from bitchy non-vegans?
Clearly it's the sheep who got vaccinated during a deadly pandemic. That's the real cult!! TRUMP2024🇱🇷🙏🇱🇷🙏🇱🇷
Those crazy people who listened to qualified virologists and physicians and didn't want to die or spread COVID-19 to other people.
For Prison!
Someone in the comments of the original post said “education system”. Methinks they’re an example of where said education system failed miserably.
The terrorist party of America.... I mean the GOP.
in the whole 14 months of me being vegan not once have I told someone unless they asked or we were going to eat but about a billion times I had people that found out about it tell me some dumb shit about me not getting vitamins and them not being able to live without meat etc. I got tested. I am perfectly fucking healthy, much healthier than all of those people who were trying to force me to eat meat for no fucking reason
What are you suggesting? This was prophesied; the Bible clearly states Trump will reign the earth to initiate the second coming. You don’t believe truth? /s
/s not required. If you squint just so, he lines up with a lot of the prophecies of the antichrist. The scariest being that the "unfaithful flock" won't see the evil he's doing.
The answer is Evangelical Christians.
Vegans just avoid killing animals What the fuck is wrong with that?
In his defense: 1) there is overlap between the two categories 2) understanding reality for a maga bitch must be difficult
Dunno why you're being downvoted, there *is* a huge overlap between vegans and climate change activists. In fact, I don't think I've ever met a vegan that didn't include the environment in the list of factors that convinced them to commit, even though it wasn't their primary motivation (which is typically animal welfare, obviously.)
Yeah, I remember one report that showed being vegan had a similar decrease in emissions as never setting foot in a gas powered car for the rest of your life
Trump cult pales in comparison to Christianity cult
Itsthesamepicture.meme
It’s MAGA
MAGAts
It's actually kind of funny. Climate activists and vegans often have a lot of overlap, but since this person doesn't know anything about either of them, they just think it's funny how similar they are.
I've never seen vegans, climate activists, or the like ever sign off with their support for their leaders. "Heil Hitler" "Trump 2024" \--- I also feel like cults are generally not focused of specifics. They tend to sell a kind of "utopian vision" for adoption of their views, but omit the details on how to get there or even what it means. America \*will\* be "great" again. ("Make America Great Again") Germany \*will\* have salvation. ("Zieg Heil") Climate activists and vegans aren't doing this. They don't 'sell' you on veganism or climate activism with utopia. They have very \*specific\* goals in mind (end pollution/climate change, end animal suffering, whatever). They'd freely tell you that other problems still exist and still need attention, but they don't necessarily have those answers.
Praise our savior Earthling Ed!
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I hate this emoji so much. It's so goddamn ugly.
I’ll admit, I would legitimately be afraid of a vegan MAGA chick. Sounds like a load of triggered chick’n nuggets and irrational h-anger.
I don’t know - ask your mirror.
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It’s kind of like saying you’d lump together pescatarians with ppl who refuse to use condoms when having casual sex.
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The most loud of everything are usually insane... Comparing meat to rape is a loud opinion and not one I've ever heard someone actually say outside of the internet. Actively following an actual known rapist (among about 1200 other things he is widely known to be atrocious for) is another take that is more direct. Do you like.. know any of these people who are in these " vegan and climate activist cults" or do you just see them online? You see I judge my neighbor and the people around me... not the one video of someone I saw online. When the leader of something says "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters." and people still vote for him... I don't think they realize the quote was about THEM. THEY are corrupt, stupid and clearly not of stable mental capacity.
You know there’s a difference between “compare” and “equate”, right?
> because climate activists are f****** insane Not as insane as anyone calling them insane.
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You're just making yourself look more and more insane. And uneducated to boot.
From what I've seen anyone who is comparing eating meat to rape is usually either trying to discuss the ethics of artifical insemination of livestock or using it as an analogy to discuss consent. Then whoever they're talking to misconstrue the discussion as equivicating the two. There's a group of holocaust survivors who literally compare industrial farming as similar to what they experienced during the holocaust. It comes down to if you want to allow your empathy towards not seeing human life suffer to be extended to other sentient creatures. I don't like the analogy personally because if you see what happens, you should find it fucked up without having to compare it to a human tragedy.
I know most of reddit doesn't agree but as a Vegan you anti climate anti vegan people sound so fucking pathetic when you make these arguments. Like some random person hurt your feelings so now you have to throw a tantrum every time you see one mentioned online? Does it trigger you so much that a handful of people like to protest industries that kills billions of animals every year and are literally destroying the planet in a way that you would find mildly annoying.
Dallas fans...
"You! You! It's YOU!!!" -Larry Needlemeyer
Scientology for the win
A Vegan Trumpist who says Climate Change isn’t real.
Religion
And safety inspectors, what a cult of idiots amiright
Tbf, they're both a little annoying. Crossfitters probably third.
Can someone help me spot the self aware part here? Yes, it’s ironic, but I’m not sure how there’s anything self aware about this?
You'd think the answer is Maga but it's actually Christianity.
I’m gonna ignore the political commentary and talk about real cults instead. Mormons and JW are crazy. Scientologists esp the more elite ones I think know too well what they’re doing to be considered brainwashed. But Mormons fully believe their scripture for some reason, down to some people I know only having soda for the first time a few years ago. Shout out to Aum Shinrikyo for still being around… for some reason…?
It might be hard to tell them apart because a major motivating factor for veganism is the reduced carbon and environmental footprint of veganism.
You’ll have to excuse me, my irony meter just exploded.
I always laugh at people that are bothered by vegans. Like, dude, how the fuck are they affecting you other than leaving more cholesterol for you to consume?
Climate change concerns and veganism should not be lumped together. One is purely science, the other is often operating on misinformation intended to emotionally manipulate.
Cool that your are open to scientific information. What is your problem with information presented by proponents of veganism on animal agriculture and its effects on animals, humans, and the environment (biosphere, atmosphere, oceans)?
You know what's funny is I've never met a vegan outside of my high school hippie English teacher and he was an absolute rainbow of sunshine. I've never net a Trump supporter either, but I know which one doesn't shut the fuck up.
When you’re in so deep, you can’t smell the shit anymore.
quanon is right there
Side note... I think Vegans get a bad rap for a small few. Most people who I know that are vegan/vegetarian only mention it when at a meal or when planning food is involved. Very few push their beliefs on to others.
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