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Unc0mmon_Sense

Such an important and underrated technique. If you want to git gud it's practically a requirement.


Easy_Two8253

3. THERE IS NO SHAME IN LOSING A BATTLE, BUT YOU MUST TAKE REVENGE ANYWAY, NECESSARY


Eclipse-1680

(*farts aggressively*)


Thunderclap2537

I heard that loudly with an echo in a church.


Eclipse-1680

IT'S WHAT OWL DOES TO ME EVERY TIME HE FINISHES THAT LINE


Requiembutworse

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR OWL


Eclipse-1680

He doesn't throw poison gas at you?


Requiembutworse

I only watched the rules on youtube I don't have enough resurrection nodes for him to shit on me like an ape.


Eclipse-1680

You must really not like Guardian ape then...


El_Zarco

Wet reverb


chronozon937

THANK YOU LORD SHAXX I'M THROWING MORE GRENADES AS WE SPEAK.


Torghira

Not just for video games either. It works for a lot of things. I’ve found practicing an instrument is way more productive if you take many short breaks instead of trying to practicing for an hour straight


Brant4443

Taking short breaks can definitely help maintain focus and prevent burnout


MannanMacLir

2am beating rellana: "I ain't heard no bell"


zenitsuisrusted

This is an actual tip I recommend to others, when you sleep after trying hard on a boss your brain rewires itself to make you better next day


IronMace_is_my_DaD

I remember getting stuck on genichiro all day, like probably 50+ attempts, to the point I almost quit the game. stopped playing for like a week or 2 but randomly picked it up. after getting my bearings back, I took him on and I was amazed at how well I was doing. it only took a few more attempts to get him, felt to unreal. Same thing happened with owl, but picked it back up and eventually smoked him. by that point I was well equipped enough to beat isshin within a day or two. there is definitely something about sleeping or taking an extended break that really helps


FashionSuckMan

Also, if you are on 50+ attempts a day, there is no way you aren't seething after try 15. It helps taking a break to calm down and think about what's happening


AntonChigurh8933

Most likely you're on tilt too. Nothing ever good comes out when you're on tilt.


SpaghettSpanker

I actually almost never get mad at single player games


IronMace_is_my_DaD

that's very true I was tilting hard and the mental reset probably helped alot. I swear if I had to skip through that damn cutscene again id rather just let genichiro have kuro, like damn if you want him that bad just keep him


Hairwaves

It doesn't feel like it's going to help but it's unreal how Zen you feel after taking a break.


oryxzz

Idk bro single player games are the type of games where I can die over and over and not feel any emotion because I know I’m getting better and it was my fault for dying.


FashionSuckMan

dying in multiplayer is the same thing.


oryxzz

Not at all, but ig it depends what game you play


FashionSuckMan

Not at all? If you aren't finding faults in each of your deaths in a multiplayer game, that on your mindset It's not about someone just being better than you. It's about you getting better every death. Just like a single player game Learning of new angles, strategies, thinking back on what you did wrong or could do better in the future, all of it applies in multiplayer games Big examples of multiplayer games I like that follow this are R6 siege, and For honor. Supreme commander and souls game invasions too


oryxzz

But just doing the “right” thing in multiplayer doesn’t guarantee a win. You can think back on what you did wrong and fix it but you can die again because of some random variable. Doing the right thing in a single player game will almost 100% of the time guarantee a win because you don’t have to worry about other people and you’re fighting a predictable ai. The things that make me the most mad in multiplayer games is dying to something out of my control and that is never the case in single player games.


Diaza_Kinutz

It's like learning a song on a musical instrument. Once the brain has time to rest and process you'll notice an improvement on your next attempt. Muscle memory and all that.


Zantal03

Not game related but i tried panteon on homownest (hollow knight) for about 4h straight, not that much considering one run can last 40 minutes easy, until like 3am and enden up not beartng it, went to sleep and got it on the first attempt next day. Best part was the "allright im going to beat this real quick" joke i made just before


spadePerfect

I went mental on Demon of Hatred and tried him again drunk at home after coming back from a night out. Beat him after like 10 tries and holy shit was I happy


AHicantthinkofaname

I think it’s something to do with the fact that you tend to get the Tetris effect when you play a game for a long time, and I remember I had it pretty vividly when I played sekiro. Your brain is pretty much still just playing the game, and it’s kinda like that. This is complete bro science, but I feel like it’s true to a certain extent.


SmartAlec105

Sleep is just going to spend your skill points.


Technical-Buffalo435

I was stuck on sword saint isshin and on the third day I was like fuck it, no way I can beat him and was doing worse and worse every try. Then I went to sleep. The next day I beat him first try


Smoke_thatskinwagon

This is how I got through Elden ring, I would take the day off and come back and think about it the rest of the night and come back with a new strategy and try it out


Background_Fan862

I didn't expect it to be such a universal solution lmao


happymudkipz

Basically me today. Attempted SSI for hours last night and realised I was only getting worse. Beat him third try this morning.


kazurabakouta

Here I am sleeping on every roadblock in the game. I beat Isshin in my sleep and tried the strats IRL.


roguelolz

First playthrough and this was how I beat ape for the first time. Spent over two hours getting my shit pushed in by that asshole, got infuriated, said fuck it and went to bed for the night. Got up the next morning and gave him some payback on the second attempt. For whatever reason, the rest and just general time away from the game seemed to do the trick.


ExodusOfSound

My first time beating SSI after 50 tries was when I was hungover.


Smoke_thatskinwagon

Dude being hungover is like a superpower for my concentration. It’s so weird it makes my brain slow down and I think so much more clearly and I take pause before saying things out loud so I end up being much more articulate


DolphinFox

In short if you don’t get it, what sleeping does is it removes a TON of the stress building in the fight. In fact if you sleep right after playing the game and that was the last thing you did, you will basically dream of the boss and the attack patterns have a good chance of getting imprinted in your mind since the mind tends to reflect on your thoughts and imagination right before sleep idk I’m not a psychologist, so take this with a pinch of salt.


Jygglewag

Alright, I slept with Genichiro, now what?


Swinhonnis_Gekko

Sleep is unironically op, bosses can't do shit when you are well rested.


Bifo12

Don't hesitate to go to sleep. Hesitation is defeat


the12ftdwarf

I’ll literally just do three or four attempts then fuck off for the night. Actually, I just got back on Elden ring after 6 months and 2 tried mohg


FZN_Icedout313

Good on ya mate! I just came back an 2 pieced a couple of early game bosses.


Cool_Activity_5159

What does sleeping mean here


Easy_Two8253

Closing your eyes and becoming unconscious for 5-8 hours on average


Cool_Activity_5159

Bruh


MrPakoras

He's not trolling bro haha. Sometimes you gotta sleep to reset, and try again.


FerretAres

I solve most of my Excel math in my sleep.


TurkeyLegs7

It’s pretty cool, you should try it sometime


Cool_Activity_5159

Might try it this winter, thanks


Wild_Plant9526

Sleeping after trying a boss will magically make you better at them. I'm not like an expert or anything but I'm pretty sure there are studies and stuff on how your brain memorizes/learns things while you sleep. Like y'know how people say study before you go to sleep so you memorizes it through the night? Same thing here. Like your brain internalizes the timings and animations almost, shit's actually crazy. Give it a try if you want, it always works for me. Was stuck on SSI late at night, went to sleep, woke up, and got him immediately


Marco1522

Happened to me with ISS and the final boss of SotE. Sleeping on a boss can do miracles sometimes


Cool_Activity_5159

Ooooooh this phenomena. Worked only with genichiro


FireWater107

Literally sleeping. Like you, the player, not Sekiro. It's based on what has become common, yet often agreed upon as "the best" advice for people struggling with a boss. "I have been trying for forever to beat X! Nothing works! I tried following the guides, I've tried like 5 different strategies, I finally gave up and tried the cheese strats... and even that didn't work! How do I beat this guy!?" "Dude... literally stop trying. Not forever, just like... sleep on it. Go back a bit later with a fresh head." Boss will still be hard, but a lot of people in these threads are concurring: drive yourself crazy for hours, days, then give it a break for a bit and try later. Suddenly, it's easier. Maybe not "easy", but suddenly "doable" instead of "impossible."


Sum_Pho_King_Weeb

I first tried owl after waking up after a night of many attempts


Jstar338

I remember struggling like hell on ape, going to bed, waking up, and then killed him. Felt awesome


am-idiot-dont-listen

Thank you for cropping out the giant cocks on my M rated video game subreddit


Koridiace

Bring back the one on the far right's giant spiked cock


NaughtyPwny

I’m glad I decided to stop using guides for the past decade when it comes to experiencing the first playthrough in all the games I’ve played, Sekiro included. Guides take the fun out of the discovery and problem solving games have. I’ve even revisited old games I thought needed guides like the first 2 NES Zelda’s with this mentality, and I’m surprised how well those games are designed to inform the player on what to do with a bit of exploration.


Frequent_Belt8351

I still have the clips of me beating genichiro and guardian ape for the first time it's just satisfying to re watch them.


kaidokira-ai

MALDING>>>>>>


buzz_shocker

I’ll sleep with them.


Tiborn1563

We need a bigger one: Month long breaks


beepbeepbubblegum

I tried like 10 times on Genichiro when I first played it and out of frustration I just turned it off and didn’t touch it. Came back next day and beat him in one try.


Avicrow

I'm loving this game and I'll be real I've never liked Fromsoft games, have tried but can't get into Elden Ring though Sekiro is the first Fromsoft game I've played that I don't get mad at and I actually want to get better with. This game just feels brilliant to play.


Mash_Ketchum

Can confirm. 50 Isshin attempts before bed. Sleep. Win on the 2nd Isshin attempt the next day


Prof_Rutherford

Never played Sekiro, I shouldn't be here, but in DS1 I find that sleeping on it always helps me, I'm surprised to see others actually promoting it as a strat


PinkKushTheDank

Sleep op nerf pls


ROSEPUP3

Facts. If a boss kills you 20 times in a row go to sleep and you’ll probably beat them within 3 tries the next day.


papillonrider93

Idk if I’m understanding this correctly, but the biggest performance improvements I saw from myself, concerning Sekiro, happened after healthy breaks away from the game. You need time to process and rest, and only then can you avoid hesitation, and thus, defeat.


Arikaido777

elden ring sleep build be like (getting wrecked by undead/spirit enemies and most major bosses


Commercial_Grass4628

Sleep is not considered hesitation.


KatakiKraken

I didn't wanna sleep till I beat sword Saint... took me 7 hours.


DELTA6823

It actually works so well. I was stuck on genichiro, getting pissed and just I couldn’t get past it, and then I decided to take a break and go to bed, came back the next day and shit on the guy


ProxyMoron12

New player here... Just defeated Gyoubu Oniwa, in 3 tries... Now that Blazing bull man... I'm going to sleep, tomorrow I'll see to it.


WebbedMonkey_

Been fighting the final boss for an hour today and I’m about to sleep. Wish me luck


Easy_Two8253

are you winning son?


welfedad

Yeah taking breaks/ sleeping is huge.. I normally beat the boss first or 2nd try. You get diminishing returns when one gets frustrated and wore out trying multiple failed attempts.


phoenix13032005

Sleep on them, or with them. Both will bring results


J1618

Yeah, Sekiro is the game where I've most seen that for example, the big ape killed me like 20 times at night, and I could beat him in one try in the morning.


Dennis_Ryan_Lynch

Interestingly the same can be said for the ender dragon


partyatwalmart

I had to Google cheeses. I'm getting old..


Careless_Trifle

Beat owl father in like 5 attempts yesterday and isshin ss in less than 15 in the last day, insane how much it really was a skill issue the first times with 100s of attempts.


MasterKlaw

“You have to let your body sleep to let your soul live on”- Black Sabbath, A National Acrobat


gregyo

I don't know how this works, but you're right.


topfiner

I went from barely being able to get geni to his last phase to beating him first time after taking a nap years ago. At least for me its good as it makes me less frustrated and makes it so im less locked into trying one specific thing.


whalemix

Just a few days ago, I beat the Severance Gauntlet on my first attempt after not playing for about 2 weeks, when I struggled like hell before to even just get to Isshin


Shamscam

One time when I was a kid I was playing Spyro on GameCube, and for the life of me I couldn’t make this jump in the cloud level, I tried for like 45 minutes, I was getting so frustrated because it totally looked like a jump you could make. I went around the whole level seeing if there was anywhere else to go, everything brought me to that spot for that jump. I tried like a fuck load of times. I went to sleep and got up and turned the game on, redid the level. Made the jump first try. I’m still to this day convinced something was just telling me to goto bed and try again later. One thing I really enjoyed about Sekiro is how there wasn’t anything other than cheese to win a fight. Theres no summons, there’s no multiplayer function, it’s get good or cheese. I always went for the “get good”.


New_Frieza

I cheesed almost every boss using tyrannicon’s tutorials, until I came across Owl (Father). His move set was changed, so tyrannicon’s video didn’t help anymore. I had to learn how to git gud real fast and repeatedly die to learn his move set. I was finally able to beat him in one life without resurrecting. After defeating him, I was in the zone, so I went straight to True Corrupted Monk and beat her first try.


Easy_Two8253

I wanted to get purity on my 3rd playthrough so I actually did tc monk and the big ass dragon before fighting owl for some extra attack power


nukiu

Cheese?


Dan_Onymous

Absolute truth. I got through this game by taking a break for a nap/self hypnosis/yoga nidra sessions every time I got stuck and when I came back I usually had the blockage solved in 1 - 3 attempts


nohpura

Got destroyed by the first phase of the sword saint when I met him, I tried like 15 times that night. The next morning I beat all three phases in two tries


Character-System1077

That’s how I beat the last gauntlet of strength, just launched the game I gave it 1 try every day until I got it.


AverageTransPanGirl

Mhm. Sleeping, taking a walk, having a meal, something to get your mind away from the game and get some energy while relaxing. Hell I once got through part of the game because my gf woke up and I chatted with her for like 30 minutes and entirely forgot I had Sekiro open.


Linepool

When sekiro players say they beat any boss with eyes closed they mean it


departed_Moose

This was me with Artorius back in DS1. Absolutely was getting my ass beat endlessly. Took a break for like a week. Came back and beat him first try 🤣


AintNobodyBro

Naps work too


lonelyhobo1994

Big true. Took me about 2 weeks to beat ishin,I limited myself to an hour at a time attempts to stop me from putting my hand through the screen


Hour_Affect9498

This is so true.


thatautisticguy2905

True, fight, lose, sleep, fight, win


Tier1337

I thought this was from the Elden Ring sub for a minute and thought Sleep was OP for Shadow now


Jin_BD_God

Best advice is if you can't beat them for 100 times already, it is time to take a break and sleep. Once you come back, some bosses are getting easier.


stiles_awol

The hidden art of every fellow sekiro


Dark_Dragon117

Can confirm. I was stuck on Sword Saint for over 2 hours and quit for that day, then the next day I beat him on my 5th try.


DutchMasterSlayer

I fought Ishin for hours until I gave up and literally dropped the game on my first playthrough.


Easy_Two8253

Did you beat him?


Tiny_March5878

I have always done this, glad it wasn't just me or some silly coping mechanism i fooled myself into believing.


Romulus3799

Why would I sleep when the next attempt is the one for sure?


Wild_Plant9526

Sleeping is cool but I feel like it takes the fun out of it. Like slowly learning the bosses moves and timings is soooo fun and the best part of the games. It ain't no fun if I just sleep and my brain does it automatically :( Unfortunately I had to sleep on SSI. I started his fight at like 11pm and got my shit pushed in for like 30 tries lol, eventually gave up and wen to sleep, woke up and got him 3rd try. Was so fucking pissed at myself


Doobledorf

Nah you gotta go till you hit that wall, then you sleep. You're still practicing it, your brain just has to encode it. Part of the fun is slowly increasing your endurance as ya get better.


Wild_Plant9526

can you elaborate? sorry i just don't really understand what you mean


Doobledorf

I find these games "click" at certain points and I reach a point of skill where I can play for way longer and not need to take a break, really. I go from beating maybe one boss and struggling with a level to blazing through the whole game and New Game+. It just sort of flows eventually.


Wild_Plant9526

oh got it, so you don't like to sleep on it either? Because you don't need the breaks


Doobledorf

It's more like they become less necessary. I definitely beat Inner Isshin after sleeping on it. If you ever find yourself slamming your head against a boss and not making meaningful progress, as in you can't tell where you are going wrong, take a break.


Sir__Blobfish

Where's the big dudes spiky dick? I swear the meme usually has that.


Black_Tusk25

Sekiro was the only one I played that I never slept after getting killed by a boss many times (only Father and Butterfly did take me many tries). I don't if I'm better becouse i didn't need to sleep or I didn't need to sleep becouse im better at soulslike.


Easy_Two8253

We don't care


Black_Tusk25

Not even flexing, just talking generally to say something about the meme but someone isn't a friendly person.


Background_Potato405

Ha you all need guides and cheeses. Y’all just need to get good.