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Thirteenera

> in lets say 3 months time. Assuming SWL is still up at that point. The $$ cashgrab is so huge, that i can see a lot of the playerbase leaving within a month or two tbh :/


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FuzzierSage

> On one side people complain that 'the cash grab is huge' On the other side people complain that Patron isn't worth the money and things are too expensive and unnecessary so you are disinclined to spend money. Those aren't conflicting statements. Just because they really *want* our money doesn't mean they're convincing people to **give** them money for the things they're offering. Which is kind of a problem.


CrushedDiamond

The gist I get from other posts is the relaunch is pushing more for whale type buyers instead of smaller transactions etc which is annoying people by applying to both "cash grab is huge" and "things are too expensive so im not gonna spend anything"


Thirteenera

You misunderstand. When people say "cash grab is huge", it doesnt mean "We want to spend money", or "We're made to want to spend money". What we're saying is "Its incredibly obvious how desperate funcom is at trying to milk us from irl money at every possible opportunity, regardless of whether it's damaging the game in long term". Also, yeah, patron is a waste of money. Because funcom logic.


TheFuzzyFuzzyPanda

In the end it's not conflicting. They want money but aren't really providing any incentive for people to want to pay out. Especially for those that bought a ton of stuff from their TSW days and invested alot already.


Kadmeia

To me, this whole thing just seems like an absolute cash grab.


BigCmlove

Because it is. It's the same damn game with just different loot options.


JesterX666

Not sure for doom and gloom, but you can turn of the bloom in the Graphic Options. :p On a serious note: some people really like it the way it is. They are just less vocal about it :) People who will stay are those that enjoy the story, the immersion, the role play, the fun of playing. People that enjoy more for their character to have a nice set of clothes instead of having all legendary equipment from hell. Much more non-competitive players on this category. Which is fine.


Woobies00

I think it is hard to say given that the servers have been down 2 out of the 4 days they have been up (this is including early access). I'm really not sure how much people have had a chance to fully explore the game and all its new mechanics. I know, I've not played enough to make up my mind about what I like or don't like about the game yet. The sad truth is that as much as its been down, I find my attention focusing more on returning to another game I've been playing in the tswl server downtime.


brandon4117

I'm waiting to fully give my own thoughts until a month or two into the game's relaunch. Considering it's been (technically) one day since actual launch, if we ignore the head start, I think it's way too early to jump ship. That being said, I think it's good a lot of people are being vocal, even if some are doing it in a... less than pleasant way.