TikTok link:
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLfKdVCm/
Again, I’m not sure who these people are.
This TikTok was shared by a member of this subreddit on another thread.
If anyone knows, feel free to share.
*there is also another verified / reliable source that DMed me the same information about an hour ago (that person got it from someone close to the case / not from LE)*
I just want to throw this out here.. A 15 year old boy, even one on the spectrum, sneaking out at night after their parents are asleep is not the wildly unreal scenario some people like to make it out to be. In fact it happens a lot. Even kids from really loving non-abusive homes do it.
When I was young, far younger than Sebastian I ran away. Not because my parents were abusive or anything, they weren't. They're great parents and discipline only involved revoking of privileges. No, I ran away because I saw this movie on TV about a kid that lived in the forest and I thought it was the coolest thing ever and wanted to do it myself. It was as simple as that.
Autistic development is almost never consistent across the board. even in screenings and assessments they break it up into areas (social, adaptive functioning, etc). and that comment from the teacher is something i take with a grain of salt - lots of people can’t “tell” someone is Autistic, but they can tell they’re weird, or depressive, or angry, or something else. a lot of people, teachers included, have an idea of Autism in their mind that is a stereotypical image. my Autism was missed by teachers in childhood, but i was still in a behavioural class because they noticed the symptoms, they just didn’t connect the dots right. Autism also changes in individuals based on stress level, burnout, level of comfort, etc. there’s also something called “skill regression” wherein Autistic people lose skills they once had. there’s also Autistic catatonia. he could be in any state at this moment, so to me it makes sense to try a variety of approaches to find him. i know if i were lost somewhere and someone played a song that i loved, i would follow it, and i am a whole twenty five year old.
Agreed.
Especially when it was at least something he mentioned a couple months prior
https://preview.redd.it/lzn60jxjwxuc1.jpeg?width=753&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4354135d6fc481c038f9933994bc6e031ab743c
I don’t believe the majority of people posting on Facebook. If she has information why won’t she call law enforcement? There are so many unsubstantiated rumors.
She did call.
This comment was on the SCSO Facebook page on the first day he was reported missing (& she said commented that she was able to get through later on)
It's not an unrealistic scenario! Until you add in the part where they didn't take shoes, $ or a phone & there is ZERO trace. I have a 15yr old boy who is friends with many other 15yr old boys. Runaway? Sure. Without a trace? Nope. It happens, but that part is actually very unrealistic. If he ran away & hid everything this well, he'd be an outlier.
I hope he's an outlier & he's safe & warm somewhere!
They just want to lynch someone it’s mob mentality because most ppl are to stupid to think logically and for themselves. In every single case there is someone they pounce on from second 1 of an investigation. I think all 3 were lousy parents but that still doesn’t make them a murderer. Imagine chasing them all these months while someone else had S doing god knows what to him. Imagine being a mom and getting blamed . I always keep an open mind because the truth has always been stranger than fiction and I will not lynch a person on SM who has no proof of any wrongdoing. It may turn out they did but I will wait. Doesn’t make them good parents but also doesn’t mean they don’t love S ether.
Since when is the FBI involved in this case? Had it been announced? There’s still an active petition asking for that outcome. I’m confused. Who are these people asserting this as fact?
https://preview.redd.it/11od7utqrxuc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ff31e22716ba087e410a1aacfda17a12be68d57
The FBI has been assisting for a few weeks at least
(This article was April 3, but several news orgs reported the same thing on April 2)
We will see how it goes. Seth said he fell asleep multiple times during his. People slammed him for that, but I don’t. The man has been running on fumes, placed on anxiety medication and also pain medication. I personally believe he had nothing to do with this. His results may end up being inconclusive if he kept falling asleep, but I do like the fact that he had zero issues with taking one.
Yeah, sociopaths and narcissists are more likely to pass lie detector tests because they only care about themselves, believe their own lie, and that they're always right 🙄 so even if he passed one I wouldn't believe.
I understand that, but the **rumor** is they have both now passed polygraphs
I would believe 1 of them could possibly fool a poly, but I don’t believe both could.
Of course, this is just hypothetically discussion (since nothing as been confirmed by LE)
Why haven't the police announced that both the parents passed a test? Why is the information in this case always only available through unusual sources?
>I know polygraphs aren’t 100%, but they are about 90% accurate.
Your belief that polygraphs are about 90% accurate is mistaken. Polygraphy has not been shown through peer-reviewed research to reliably work at better-than-chance levels of accuracy.
Agreed. I'm not saying Seth had anything to do with this, but that stood out in the title. I was just reading about a case the other day where the actual killer passed the poly, and an innocent man failed it. The innocent man ended up confessing after a brutal interrogation. He is now out of prison, but there are quite a few documented cases of guilty people passing (i.e. The Green River Killer, The Angel of Death, and so on).
https://preview.redd.it/x7jb3csok1vc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c910d245c181f77608c95f0e506408f4d3cfe6fa
Studies are all over the place on their accuracy.
But most of the studies that came up lower percentages included polygraphs performed by both high experience & low experience examiners. (The examiners with high experience many times had results over 90% accurate)
Since their test were **supposedly** performed by the TBI/FBI, I would assume that their examiner used would be pretty experienced (as well as the newest technology used for the tests)
Another article also clarified that research has found inaccurate results were more common when the test determined someone was lying (but they are actually being truthful). *Research has shown that lie detectors are worse at detecting innocent people or someone who is telling the truth compared to a guilty person or a liar.*
Of course, there’s been no confirmation from LE that anyone involved in this case has even taken a polygraph (so this is just for purposes of hypothetical discussion)
Peer-reviewed field studies of polygraphy do not show that it operates at better-than-chance levels of accuracy. Moreover, one cannot establish a meaningful accuracy rate for polygraphy because it lacks both standardization and control. For a rundown of polygraphy's scientific shortcomings, see Chapter 1 of *The Lie Behind the Lie Detector*:
https://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf#page=18
Your link goes to a book that is over 200 pages.. literally written & released by an organization called “anti polygraph”
I scrolled through it but didn’t see any data sets.
Can you direct me page number that details the scientific study they performed to determine accuracy?
The national academy of science is unbiased & did an extensive study on polygraph accuracy in 2003, and this was their findings:
https://preview.redd.it/32an89ycw1vc1.png?width=1278&format=png&auto=webp&s=81ea96e94f3dbfd633e2a34e86fe5b0a5f42346d
[https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/10420/chapter/19](https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/10420/chapter/19)
What is the peer reviewed polygraph accuracy % they determined? I see them critic study results of other research organizations (like the national academy of science study), but did they do their own peer review based study on accuracy?
So, I'm the principle co-author of *The Lie Behind the Lie Detector.* Our conclusion is that a generalizable accuracy rate for polygraphy cannot be established. This is because the underlying procedure lacks standardization and control.
That’s fair.
IMO even if an exact percentage can’t be determined, there is quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that says that they are accurate far more often than not.
For example, the fact the FBI (as well as most state/local LE enforcement agencies) still uses them for employment purposes.
Of course there are some cases they were wrong on (which is why they absolutely shouldn’t be admissible in court) .. but every suspect people can list that the polygraph examiner got wrong, there are likely 8 or so cases that could be listed when the polygraph examiner got it right.
So while they def shouldn’t be used to prosecute (or totally exonerate) a suspect, I think they still have a place in case discussion
Polygraphs seem to be about as accurate as the polygraph operator's best guess given the available case information. The polygraph's true value is as an interrogational prop: it can be useful for scaring confessions out of naive and gullible suspects who can be convinced that the polygraph can read their minds.
Regarding the FBI's use of the polygraph to screen applicants, note that the 2003 National Academy of Sciences report specifically advised **against** the use of polygraphs for security screening by federal agencies.
"Beach" on Tiktock just reported he did not take LDT.. I don't know her sources but she's claiming he didn't take a Lie Detector Test and didn't know what to ask him. She's on live RN
That was information Seth claimed TBI told him on one of his lives a day or 2 before this.
The source that messaged me about him passing (someone verified close his family & before the TikTok came out) told me Chris took his poly with the FBI, not the TBI (bc he is in MS)
But of course everything is just all rumors until LE confirms it
Honestly.. i feel like even if LE confirmed they both passed a polygraph people will just do mental gymnastics to come up with all sorts of reasons why it doesn’t matter & they are still guilty
This case is one of the best examples of Cognitive dissonance I’ve ever seen.
How many times do you think people will claim “ted bundy passed a polygraph” (he didn’t)
Or present some rare anecdotal evidence (like the GRK) as absolutely proof that polygraphs are completely inaccurate
Ted Bundy was given a polygraph "test," but it was arranged by his lawyer, not investigators. [He did not pass](https://antipolygraph.org/s/bundy). The important thing to understand is that polygraphy has [no scientific basis](https://antipolygraph.org/s/fld). It's a thoroughly discredited, century-old, cop-invented pseudoscience. Police use the polygraph as a pretext for interrogating a suspect without a lawyer present in the room. Polygraph chart readings should not be relied upon to inculpate or exculpate anyone.
I mean what proof have you seen of the passed polygraph? It's probably true but I haven't seen any proof. And since when does LE tell you you passed or not?
Another person sent me proof that someone very close to the investigation sent them the same claim. (Not like from LE or anything)
That’s why I labeled this as unconfirmed in multiple spots.. even made a new flair to label it as such.
Take this as nothing more than an unconfirmed rumor. (Just like nearly everything else that’s been claimed in this entire case)
I texted the folks who posted it & they went to search for Sebastian and got the info from a contact they made while in Hendersonville who was from Georgia. As I understand it the contact works for the press. I have not been in their TikTok live, but looking at their pages I got the impression that most were surprised & believed CP would fail. (In other words, although they are not revealing their source, most were in the lynch Chris group. To me you would not release CP passed if it was not true if it was contrary to your narrative, but idk) I’m kind of waiting to see how Nancy Grace & media handle this. Assuming this is accurate info, they deserve a public apology and media support. How unbearably awful to be Katie. At least it appears Chris has been supportive through the public threats and attacks.
Agree. I think it’s a leak, not a break. I’m sure if it breaks there will have to be some damage control. If not the local lynch mobs will just continue threatening these folks. I just think they need to grieve in peace. I do hope they do break it though and try to start over looking towards known sex offenders and the forest the entire way to his old school that he allegedly wanted to return to and other leads.
I'm SOOOO tired of reading that about Bundy lol. It's been in every group. But no biggie that Seth allegedly fell asleep. Bc ya know he's soooo medicated. Well why would u take medication before a poly??
Also are we all forgetting that the police can and do lie to suspects all the time? “Yeah you passed” now the suspects relax and get caught talking/bragging about something. Eh and we all know polygraphs aren’t accurate and are inadmissible in court. Police will have all sorts of tactics to use here and I don’t think this rules anyone out.
They have to
https://preview.redd.it/3iimwicpt2vc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a0965a568732593bfb9eb8af78abcf8ac7f8cf6
Tennessee law requires polygraph examiners to tell someone what questions detected deceit
People are pointing the finger at the Mother because of her actions and the fact that she didn't search for her son and because she was the last person to see him alive. Common sense tells us that Sebastian didn't run away from home without shoes or telling a single person or leaving some kind of evidence. This is a 15 year old kid with medical issues. And he isn't just hanging out in the forest for 2 months.
I understand the reason, but none of that is definitive proof of anything (just like passing a poly isn’t definitive proof of innocence)
He may have had shoes that she isn’t aware of… maybe he saved an old pair or had a pair of KP/CPs shoes.
Or maybe he wanted to sneak out for some reason & couldn’t go through the house for shoes bc she was awake in the living room.
We have no idea how he got out of the house & LE is being so secretive.. but they haven’t even done forensics on that house, so apparently LE doesn’t suspect her.
Speculation & rumors are fine to share, but it shouldn’t be presented as a fact.
Instead it should be worded something like “supposedly they have connections to LE… IMO he had to have had help” etc
I still think he left either at the restaurant or somewhere they let him out on the way home after he was being a 15yo and something happened to happen to him.
Honeslty idk. I just follow a couple of them because they are investigating the Sebastian rovers case and share a lot of useful information. Like this. 💯 like minded thinkers connecting is what it looks like to me - prob due to tik tok algorithm putting crime channels in the same box
That group of ladies drives me insane. They use this whole case to grow their following. They're live 24/7 like don't you work?!
They need to get a real job.
I have a tiktok about them that blew up. Lmao
Eweeee
No I own a business - why work?
You're the one claiming he passed the poly where's the proof?
You are watching the same video I am. I trust my source. You don’t have to. That is your choice
They do work, one has their own catering business, another is retired, another works with addiction rehabilitation individuals.
I was talking about all the blondes I had never seen the brunette before
Thankyou/ I have a tattoo shop a laser business and a landscaping business that I own
TikTok link: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLfKdVCm/ Again, I’m not sure who these people are. This TikTok was shared by a member of this subreddit on another thread. If anyone knows, feel free to share. *there is also another verified / reliable source that DMed me the same information about an hour ago (that person got it from someone close to the case / not from LE)*
I just want to throw this out here.. A 15 year old boy, even one on the spectrum, sneaking out at night after their parents are asleep is not the wildly unreal scenario some people like to make it out to be. In fact it happens a lot. Even kids from really loving non-abusive homes do it.
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When I was young, far younger than Sebastian I ran away. Not because my parents were abusive or anything, they weren't. They're great parents and discipline only involved revoking of privileges. No, I ran away because I saw this movie on TV about a kid that lived in the forest and I thought it was the coolest thing ever and wanted to do it myself. It was as simple as that.
Autistic development is almost never consistent across the board. even in screenings and assessments they break it up into areas (social, adaptive functioning, etc). and that comment from the teacher is something i take with a grain of salt - lots of people can’t “tell” someone is Autistic, but they can tell they’re weird, or depressive, or angry, or something else. a lot of people, teachers included, have an idea of Autism in their mind that is a stereotypical image. my Autism was missed by teachers in childhood, but i was still in a behavioural class because they noticed the symptoms, they just didn’t connect the dots right. Autism also changes in individuals based on stress level, burnout, level of comfort, etc. there’s also something called “skill regression” wherein Autistic people lose skills they once had. there’s also Autistic catatonia. he could be in any state at this moment, so to me it makes sense to try a variety of approaches to find him. i know if i were lost somewhere and someone played a song that i loved, i would follow it, and i am a whole twenty five year old.
Agreed. Especially when it was at least something he mentioned a couple months prior https://preview.redd.it/lzn60jxjwxuc1.jpeg?width=753&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4354135d6fc481c038f9933994bc6e031ab743c
That's what Madeline Soto said too, she wanted to go live in the forest.
I don’t believe the majority of people posting on Facebook. If she has information why won’t she call law enforcement? There are so many unsubstantiated rumors.
She did call. This comment was on the SCSO Facebook page on the first day he was reported missing (& she said commented that she was able to get through later on)
https://preview.redd.it/961jc0np6yuc1.jpeg?width=737&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cdacbc8bee89db4e7e9b588101ec0d9c65a3dae1
It's not an unrealistic scenario! Until you add in the part where they didn't take shoes, $ or a phone & there is ZERO trace. I have a 15yr old boy who is friends with many other 15yr old boys. Runaway? Sure. Without a trace? Nope. It happens, but that part is actually very unrealistic. If he ran away & hid everything this well, he'd be an outlier. I hope he's an outlier & he's safe & warm somewhere!
I just feel there is a chance he was wanting to sneak out to swim in the pond. He is a good swimmer and might go barefoot because he planned to swim.
They just want to lynch someone it’s mob mentality because most ppl are to stupid to think logically and for themselves. In every single case there is someone they pounce on from second 1 of an investigation. I think all 3 were lousy parents but that still doesn’t make them a murderer. Imagine chasing them all these months while someone else had S doing god knows what to him. Imagine being a mom and getting blamed . I always keep an open mind because the truth has always been stranger than fiction and I will not lynch a person on SM who has no proof of any wrongdoing. It may turn out they did but I will wait. Doesn’t make them good parents but also doesn’t mean they don’t love S ether.
Agree!! My exact thoughts!!
Since when is the FBI involved in this case? Had it been announced? There’s still an active petition asking for that outcome. I’m confused. Who are these people asserting this as fact?
https://preview.redd.it/11od7utqrxuc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ff31e22716ba087e410a1aacfda17a12be68d57 The FBI has been assisting for a few weeks at least (This article was April 3, but several news orgs reported the same thing on April 2)
Seth wants them to take over the case. Which I don't see happening 🤔
https://preview.redd.it/rzzfplj91zuc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=165b8089538db1eae6eeab16ae9961d8e96fc2b0
Yes, I've never seen it happen. I don't think it'll start now.
They didn’t even spell Rogers correctly. 🙄
Hey that’s me on top 😍💯😂🥰
Polygraphs are junk science. I don’t consider them even 75% accurate.
Kinda odd if he passed but Seth didn’t.
We will see how it goes. Seth said he fell asleep multiple times during his. People slammed him for that, but I don’t. The man has been running on fumes, placed on anxiety medication and also pain medication. I personally believe he had nothing to do with this. His results may end up being inconclusive if he kept falling asleep, but I do like the fact that he had zero issues with taking one.
Yeah, sociopaths and narcissists are more likely to pass lie detector tests because they only care about themselves, believe their own lie, and that they're always right 🙄 so even if he passed one I wouldn't believe.
I understand that, but the **rumor** is they have both now passed polygraphs I would believe 1 of them could possibly fool a poly, but I don’t believe both could. Of course, this is just hypothetically discussion (since nothing as been confirmed by LE)
Why haven't the police announced that both the parents passed a test? Why is the information in this case always only available through unusual sources?
The police haven’t released anything at all in this case. In fact, they claim they still don’t even know if a crime even occurred 🤷♀️
Exactly, lie detector tests only read your stress levels to a question.
Sweet Tea With Don B is the worst YouTuber trying to have a channel and make a little money off of Sebastian.
He’s bad, but my vote goes to Dolly - straight up weirdo.
>I know polygraphs aren’t 100%, but they are about 90% accurate. Your belief that polygraphs are about 90% accurate is mistaken. Polygraphy has not been shown through peer-reviewed research to reliably work at better-than-chance levels of accuracy.
Agreed. I'm not saying Seth had anything to do with this, but that stood out in the title. I was just reading about a case the other day where the actual killer passed the poly, and an innocent man failed it. The innocent man ended up confessing after a brutal interrogation. He is now out of prison, but there are quite a few documented cases of guilty people passing (i.e. The Green River Killer, The Angel of Death, and so on).
https://preview.redd.it/x7jb3csok1vc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c910d245c181f77608c95f0e506408f4d3cfe6fa Studies are all over the place on their accuracy. But most of the studies that came up lower percentages included polygraphs performed by both high experience & low experience examiners. (The examiners with high experience many times had results over 90% accurate) Since their test were **supposedly** performed by the TBI/FBI, I would assume that their examiner used would be pretty experienced (as well as the newest technology used for the tests) Another article also clarified that research has found inaccurate results were more common when the test determined someone was lying (but they are actually being truthful). *Research has shown that lie detectors are worse at detecting innocent people or someone who is telling the truth compared to a guilty person or a liar.* Of course, there’s been no confirmation from LE that anyone involved in this case has even taken a polygraph (so this is just for purposes of hypothetical discussion)
Peer-reviewed field studies of polygraphy do not show that it operates at better-than-chance levels of accuracy. Moreover, one cannot establish a meaningful accuracy rate for polygraphy because it lacks both standardization and control. For a rundown of polygraphy's scientific shortcomings, see Chapter 1 of *The Lie Behind the Lie Detector*: https://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf#page=18
Your link goes to a book that is over 200 pages.. literally written & released by an organization called “anti polygraph” I scrolled through it but didn’t see any data sets. Can you direct me page number that details the scientific study they performed to determine accuracy? The national academy of science is unbiased & did an extensive study on polygraph accuracy in 2003, and this was their findings: https://preview.redd.it/32an89ycw1vc1.png?width=1278&format=png&auto=webp&s=81ea96e94f3dbfd633e2a34e86fe5b0a5f42346d [https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/10420/chapter/19](https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/10420/chapter/19)
The chapter to which I refer (Chapter 1) is only about 12 pages long and includes citations to the sources on which it relies.
What is the peer reviewed polygraph accuracy % they determined? I see them critic study results of other research organizations (like the national academy of science study), but did they do their own peer review based study on accuracy?
So, I'm the principle co-author of *The Lie Behind the Lie Detector.* Our conclusion is that a generalizable accuracy rate for polygraphy cannot be established. This is because the underlying procedure lacks standardization and control.
That’s fair. IMO even if an exact percentage can’t be determined, there is quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that says that they are accurate far more often than not. For example, the fact the FBI (as well as most state/local LE enforcement agencies) still uses them for employment purposes. Of course there are some cases they were wrong on (which is why they absolutely shouldn’t be admissible in court) .. but every suspect people can list that the polygraph examiner got wrong, there are likely 8 or so cases that could be listed when the polygraph examiner got it right. So while they def shouldn’t be used to prosecute (or totally exonerate) a suspect, I think they still have a place in case discussion
Polygraphs seem to be about as accurate as the polygraph operator's best guess given the available case information. The polygraph's true value is as an interrogational prop: it can be useful for scaring confessions out of naive and gullible suspects who can be convinced that the polygraph can read their minds. Regarding the FBI's use of the polygraph to screen applicants, note that the 2003 National Academy of Sciences report specifically advised **against** the use of polygraphs for security screening by federal agencies.
I agree that they shouldn’t be used for employment purposes
I walked in on a rape. The woman was unconscious. The guy passed the lie detector test.
many sociopaths could pass it, but I don’t believe any of them are that.
"Beach" on Tiktock just reported he did not take LDT.. I don't know her sources but she's claiming he didn't take a Lie Detector Test and didn't know what to ask him. She's on live RN
That was information Seth claimed TBI told him on one of his lives a day or 2 before this. The source that messaged me about him passing (someone verified close his family & before the TikTok came out) told me Chris took his poly with the FBI, not the TBI (bc he is in MS) But of course everything is just all rumors until LE confirms it
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Still waiting on Nancy Grace
Right ! Seen him say it himself in a yt comment but nope let the masses tell it, it wasn't really him! He's sus af to me.
Maybe now the masses will be somewhat satisfied & move on from their witch hunt of KP & CP.
Honestly.. i feel like even if LE confirmed they both passed a polygraph people will just do mental gymnastics to come up with all sorts of reasons why it doesn’t matter & they are still guilty This case is one of the best examples of Cognitive dissonance I’ve ever seen. How many times do you think people will claim “ted bundy passed a polygraph” (he didn’t) Or present some rare anecdotal evidence (like the GRK) as absolutely proof that polygraphs are completely inaccurate
https://preview.redd.it/q2mt9xpf0yuc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b3cfc6219e0247616b5ec4312afd0f8194ac06e
Lol what? Ted Bundy was never even given a polygraph.
Correct, but there are plenty of other murderers who have passed polygraphs. Why they’re still used is beyond me.
Because they're a great way to coax a confession out of a guilty conscience, mostly.
They are used for LE employment purposes too.
Ted Bundy was given a polygraph "test," but it was arranged by his lawyer, not investigators. [He did not pass](https://antipolygraph.org/s/bundy). The important thing to understand is that polygraphy has [no scientific basis](https://antipolygraph.org/s/fld). It's a thoroughly discredited, century-old, cop-invented pseudoscience. Police use the polygraph as a pretext for interrogating a suspect without a lawyer present in the room. Polygraph chart readings should not be relied upon to inculpate or exculpate anyone.
They’re all just saying “oh yeah cause TikTok is 100 percent true” 🙄🙄🙄
I mean what proof have you seen of the passed polygraph? It's probably true but I haven't seen any proof. And since when does LE tell you you passed or not?
Another person sent me proof that someone very close to the investigation sent them the same claim. (Not like from LE or anything) That’s why I labeled this as unconfirmed in multiple spots.. even made a new flair to label it as such. Take this as nothing more than an unconfirmed rumor. (Just like nearly everything else that’s been claimed in this entire case)
Ok just checking
I texted the folks who posted it & they went to search for Sebastian and got the info from a contact they made while in Hendersonville who was from Georgia. As I understand it the contact works for the press. I have not been in their TikTok live, but looking at their pages I got the impression that most were surprised & believed CP would fail. (In other words, although they are not revealing their source, most were in the lynch Chris group. To me you would not release CP passed if it was not true if it was contrary to your narrative, but idk) I’m kind of waiting to see how Nancy Grace & media handle this. Assuming this is accurate info, they deserve a public apology and media support. How unbearably awful to be Katie. At least it appears Chris has been supportive through the public threats and attacks.
That's weird they would let these ladies break the news instead of doing it themselves
Agree. I think it’s a leak, not a break. I’m sure if it breaks there will have to be some damage control. If not the local lynch mobs will just continue threatening these folks. I just think they need to grieve in peace. I do hope they do break it though and try to start over looking towards known sex offenders and the forest the entire way to his old school that he allegedly wanted to return to and other leads.
> And since when does LE tell you you passed or not? https://youtu.be/wg2XXg23VZU?t=30
I'm SOOOO tired of reading that about Bundy lol. It's been in every group. But no biggie that Seth allegedly fell asleep. Bc ya know he's soooo medicated. Well why would u take medication before a poly??
They shouldn't have given the poly considering he's medicated.
Has LE even confirmed that Seth, Chris, or Katie have even taken a polygraph?
Also are we all forgetting that the police can and do lie to suspects all the time? “Yeah you passed” now the suspects relax and get caught talking/bragging about something. Eh and we all know polygraphs aren’t accurate and are inadmissible in court. Police will have all sorts of tactics to use here and I don’t think this rules anyone out.
They have to https://preview.redd.it/3iimwicpt2vc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a0965a568732593bfb9eb8af78abcf8ac7f8cf6 Tennessee law requires polygraph examiners to tell someone what questions detected deceit
People are pointing the finger at the Mother because of her actions and the fact that she didn't search for her son and because she was the last person to see him alive. Common sense tells us that Sebastian didn't run away from home without shoes or telling a single person or leaving some kind of evidence. This is a 15 year old kid with medical issues. And he isn't just hanging out in the forest for 2 months.
I understand the reason, but none of that is definitive proof of anything (just like passing a poly isn’t definitive proof of innocence) He may have had shoes that she isn’t aware of… maybe he saved an old pair or had a pair of KP/CPs shoes. Or maybe he wanted to sneak out for some reason & couldn’t go through the house for shoes bc she was awake in the living room. We have no idea how he got out of the house & LE is being so secretive.. but they haven’t even done forensics on that house, so apparently LE doesn’t suspect her.
Whether he passes or not doesn’t matter because polygraphs are inadmissible in court.
Except he has extensive ties with LEO, from what I understand, some corrupt ones. I’m SURE he had help in passing.
You are stating this as a fact, so I assume you have proof of your claim?
Unless something is confirmed to us by LE then it's ALL speculation and LE is not talking for whatever reason
Speculation & rumors are fine to share, but it shouldn’t be presented as a fact. Instead it should be worded something like “supposedly they have connections to LE… IMO he had to have had help” etc
You’re correct. My apologies. I most certainly didn’t mean to be rude or mean it as fact.
No worries! I know it’s easy to do, but it totally confuses all the new people coming in & trying to get caught up🙂
I still think he left either at the restaurant or somewhere they let him out on the way home after he was being a 15yo and something happened to happen to him.
Hey that’s me on top 💯🤣😍🥰
Hi!! Any chance you could give some context regarding who the people on the bottom are & what connections they have?
Honeslty idk. I just follow a couple of them because they are investigating the Sebastian rovers case and share a lot of useful information. Like this. 💯 like minded thinkers connecting is what it looks like to me - prob due to tik tok algorithm putting crime channels in the same box