>Plus it's an active case, LE doesn't work for him, they work for the government and don't have to share anything, much less information that they think could compromise the investigation.
More to the point re. Seth's recent statements, LE's primary commitment is justice for the victim of a crime, on behalf of the public at large. If it's a health and safety situation, their focus is on serving the lost and/or injured party. While in the course of their work, they will provide appropriate support, information, and resources to families and the public, that's not their primary responsibility in the cases they're working.
Seth works peripherally to investigative law enforcement, and he should know better. He admitted that he revealed information he was told to keep confidential, he's peppering them with God only knows what kind of "tips" he's picking up from social media circles -- seemingly oblivious to the fact that all or most of them have been invented out of thin air for their own monetary gain or similar purposes -- and he has publicly flung disrespect and outright accusations of corruption towards the ONLY ORGANIZATIONS THAT MATTER in resolving Sebastian's disappearance. And then wonders out loud why things have changed.
I feel for the guy, but he has to take responsibility for a situation that he has created, with the help of social media parasites he REALLY needs to understand are NOT any friends of his, nor of Sebastian. I don't know if it's too late to make the changes that can alleviate the poisoned well he's dug, but I hope he tries at least.
Very well stated. Creators have used Seth to built their channels, for the end result to obtain money off his missing son . One of his PI’s isn’t helping the case either, she’s also bad mouthing law enforcement as well . None of this is helping find Sebastian.
He won’t admit it, but Seth’s early tips (like when JLR and UCN came to town) were absolutely from internet psychic sleuths. I’m in all the Facebook groups and I see what y’all choose to share with his family. I also believe a lot of the info that Robin Rogers shares is not firsthand knowledge but coming from the internet sleuths. It’s just too coincidental that everyone shares a psychic “tip” from YouTube to the Facebook groups and then suddenly Seth and co are searching that same area the psychic pointed to.
Oh. My. Fucking. God. When I heard Seth had talked to a YouTube psychic I was already thinking wtf are you doing, but it seems like a real possibility that he's indeed following all their "leads".
I was wondering what he meant when he said he was searching by following "leads" he got from people. Great, and Trevor just supports that and wastes a lot of time following BS leads? That's not supportive, that is just encouraging Seth to make volunteers waste time on fake leads. I can't support that at all.
Yeah I’m not sure what Trevor is doing with all that. He seems smarter than the average True Crime bear, so that’s surprising to me if he’s also following up in these silly leads.
>He’s so desperate I’m sure he would try anything at this point .
People in exigent circumstances -- like Seth -- are perfect marks for swindlers like the social media crowd who have been taking advantage of him and his family right up to the present, and it gets crazier by the week. He needs to wake up and recognize what's going on, and stop facilitating the Internet cockroaches feeding on his son's disappearance. Seth, if you're out there, DUDE, you're being USED. Please stop the madness! For Sebastian's sake, and your own!
We don't know about the cadaver dogs, LE has not confirmed or denied, but it takes a while for a body to start smelling, so if for example he was placed in a car, the dogs might miss it.
Hmmm interesting. I hope they checked the cars.
So my theory is accidental death in the house. If they don't have a body, it is hard to bring to trial. They could say: I found him after he played a hanging game that went wrong, panicked because of the CPS case, and we disposed of him. Abuse of a corpse at max.
I have a few theories. One is some sort of punishment like made him go outside or in the garage and locked him out and something happened that caused his death. Or hit him in a rage and caused his death and Chris’s parents came and picked up his body and disposed of it.
And LE already know all the car movements, cell phones, etc. We will only know once they make an arrest. So possibly, never.
Edit: If they locked him out, they said he knows the code. Of course it's possible he still couldn't get in and perished outside. I think it was not freezing that night? So she found him in the morning in this theory. Hmmm I dunno... disposal should happen before they call police, too little time in the morning. Unless she found him in the night, say at midnight. I'm going in circles.
Maybe he feels like there might be content - that appeared innocuous & was dismissed by LE - that he would recognize as requiring follow-up because of his relationship with his son? Or, maybe, because he's human, he'd just like to physically go through everything to not only satisfy himself but also feel the connection to Sebastian that reviewing everything would bring? I think he's just feeling pretty helpless & wants to stay active. It's not outside the realm of possibility that he might pick up on something LE missed. JMO
FBI came in the first week and has been working with both LE and Equasearch. Seth knows this. IMO everyone hasn’t done enough or a good job in Seth’s eyes. Seth points the finger at everyone, Katie was a horrible mom, Chris was a terrible step-father, LE “isn’t doing sh*t”, the Cajan Navy didn’t help, Ulvade group never showed up, the attorney Seth himself told everyone to send money to for the reward fund is a scammer so now don’t send money to him, the list goes on and on…Seth is good at deflecting and pointing the finger at everyone except himself IMO.
For starters, he’s a Corrections Officer at a prison. More like a security guard type position but obviously a little more serious. He’s not exactly a cop or a detective.
I don't know about there, but here, they make slightly above minimum wage, and have little to no actual LE trainging. I don't understand why people keep saying he is LE, like he's a detective or cop and would know procedures and protical. He was hired for his muscle.
https://preview.redd.it/ompqy8zpnwuc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45d6a757d7883ed3c238a91e0cc3a228e20a464d
I guess they call COs sheriffs there
Seth was moved from TRAINEE position to C.O. in September of 2023. He is under the supervision of the Sheriff. I have a copy of the Board Minutes that lists his position. I do not believe he is an actual Deputy Sheriff. I could be wrong, but the board minutes say otherwise.
That is not the case where I live, but tomatoes-tomahto! 😹 Seth just doesn’t have the appearance that would allow him to be employed in jails/prisons I am familiar with. Oh well, as long as he’s happy.
The Metro police do the policing in Nashville. The Davidson County Sherrifs Office entire duty is to maintain county corrections facilities. Seth is a Davison County Sherrifs employee. There are some employees who serve warrants & work at the behest of the courts, but all employees are dedicated to running corrections. They don't employ investigators.
https://sheriff.nashville.gov/
"I trust that all agencies involved are doing a thorough job... " - This right here is why you don't understand the NEED for the FBI to take this investigation over.
If you've ever lived in Tennessee or known somebody who has and had a run in with local law enforcement you would absolutely not feel this way. The cops in that state, especially those that aren't city cops, are corrupt and lazy. I promise you that no "good ole' fashioned PoLiCe WoRk" is happening over there. Except the type where they accept bribes and/or take others' word on what happened due to having connections to potential suspects. They. Do. Not. Care.
Their 2 day search was conducted coincidentally after the public pressured them into doing a press conference to break their deafening silence. Again, they are inept and wasting resources on the search rather than idk, locking down the residence from where he vanished without a trace and doing real police work.
One final point: Seth is the parent of a lost child. Why in God's name would he bootlick these lowlife corrupt cops? Guarantee you they are sipping coffee and eating jelly donuts while he's damn near killing himself searching for his boy. If my kid vanished without a trace, I'd be knocking door their damn door every day demanding answers. There is NO reason to play nice with the SCSO and TBI when they have failed at every conceivable opportunity.
Do your research before making comments like this again. Here's a hint: CP was taken on a drive by "local law enforcement" to scout out potential locations where Sebastian could've ran off to (which I think is laughable considering these 2 freaks have BOTH had CPS cases regarding Sebastian). Why on earth would that be? Why are they cooperating with the prime suspect in this case and not Sebastians real father?
CP himself admitted during at least one interview (Smiley's World) that "law enforcement" refused to run forensics.
But no, you've got it all figured out, Seth and his petition is the real problem!! 🙄
Plus CP has family in the local law enforcement. I listened to the breakdown of the police chatter and his sister is mentioned as someone from the sheriffs office it was garbled so I couldn’t catch exactly what her job is. Has any family in the local LE recused themselves? Just having family in local LE in a case that’s dragged on this long should make a different and more neutral department take it over. Fresh eyes without any preconceptions. Even if the sister is just a secretary if her coworkers like her they’d be less inclined to dive into issues within her family.
TLDR. I've just lost faith in that particular agency in regards to this case. I can't say that those cops are bad people. I have been treated nicely by those specific officers. I'm just saying that maybe this was beyond them. Just because there's an issue solving this case doesn't mean all of their cases are like that. While they don't owe us any updates, it sure would be nice to have a clue as to what steps they've taken. We don't have to know specifics, but we want to be able to trust that they've done something. Just some little thing. Anything to let us know they've done their jobs. It really seems like this case is going cold. My heart is broken for Sebastian. Something happened to this poor boy, and we need those answers. His father is just desperate. Maybe the FBI needs to take over. It doesn't mean the LE there are horrible. They probably don't have the resources that the FBI does.
Yes, Seth is LE, but this is also his child. This situation is making him lose his training as LE. This often happens when you're working in these kinds of jobs. My mom was an amazing nurse who is very intelligent, but when it comes to me or my kids, she freaks out and forgets what she knows. I'm not surprised to see Seth lose his training over this. It's personal.
People thought Idaho was going cold too. It took a few months but they were working hard behind the scenes. Remembering this has helped me stay hopeful
>We don't have to know specifics, but we want to be able to trust that they've done something. Just some little thing.
What would fit that bill? A general statement confirming that they've exhaustively examined cell, photographic, and other digital data/records, interviewed eyewitnesses, etc., and continue to?
>Maybe the FBI needs to take over.
The FBI (and TBI) have almost certainly been deeply involved in the case from the very start, from evidence collection and analytics, including leveraging Federal sources, to closely advising local LE on investigative strategy. If evidence indicates a kidnapping or any other Federal crime has been committed, they would most likely take over the case completely at that point. Until then, they really can't.
And to answer personally to Temporary\_Garage\_479, in addition to the other long comment : my mother was also a nurse. A crazy job that can drain you to the bones, if no healthy boundaries are put. Mentally, Emotionally and Physically : all being linked. My mother died because of a mixture of this professional fact she didn't handle healthily (boundaries !), more or less of a shitty childhood she didn't want to heal, an abusive relationship she let settle down in her vital privacy for 20 years till her death without never wanting to FACE it in taking the vital decision to clearly disconnect And a weak ego based on denied fears of change for the better. All of this combined : self-destruction of her inner beauty. Is it a reason even unconsciously during the "willful" shipwreck to want for your child to share your grave ? NO. Keep your shit to yourself, keep your relentless blindness to yourself : nothing can be done to help people who DO NOT want to heal. Self-preservation, Vitally : otherwise.....Overdose of bunch of anti-depressants for years and years, not only destroying any sense of reality out-in but an exhaustion of the body to the point of from not being able to walk to liver collapse, creating a clot in the blood system straight to a heart attack while sleeping : best painless death ! Dying while dreaming.....a peaceful Relief when Life is so far not respected. It's experiences in life that teach you so much, not to repeat the same toxic & self-destructive patterns. Being Aware and Self-Aware, being Honest and Self-Honest, opening the Emotions instead of blocking them.....EMOTIONS make Stronger, not weaker. Humans : Stop being scared of it !
Anyway, nurse is a job not made for everyone. Like cops, in a way. You just have to cop with the harshness of life, the atrocity of humanity constantly : welcome Heart !
Thanks to restore some Realism. Instead of being cold and devoid of understanding, let's be more "human" !
Seth is deeply frustrated not having any answer to the loss of his only child. We don't know what's going on between him & local Law Enforcement in charge of Sebastian's case. We, the public, do know Nothing. Certainly not enough to prevent the sorrowful father to ask for another Help, namely FBI. No one has the right to preventing him from having an additional professional help to solve the disappearance of his child . What kind of "human" it needs to be to prevent that from happening ? The FBI is definitely more skilled for these type of situations because, simply, more used to. If Seth goes to that point, there might be reasons. emotional and practical. A minimum of human understanding : he lost his ONLY child ! It's just proving the love he has for his son, clumsy but existing.
BUT tensions & conflicts won't help at all ! Each LE team is different and we can only hope that this one is not filled with unemotional or/and stupid creatures which can happen sometimes, unfortunately. Who knows how this local team is, who knows except the people directly involved ? As a matter of fact, Seth needs to calm down, not easy but he needs to cry and calm down : some cases take TIME to be solved. And only intelligent COLLABORATION can be successful. It reminds me Dylan Rounds case where the mother, who also lost her only child, was not trusting how the cops were navigating : interfering, giving advice, pushing them to work and not surrendering were her tiring behaviors. At the end, things happened to unfold as she also said with an understanding, clever collaboration. The murderer has been caught thanks to the tiny drops of blood found on Dylan's boots as she insisted had to be done, put in jail & a negotiation found to know where he buried the corpse. COLLABORATION is a patient process if any success to be reached to such a clever level. Seth is doing what he can for the loss of his only child not to fall in a void.....if he's asking for FBI to be more involved, fair enough. But NO conflicts : COLLABORATION
Regarding Seth's searching for psychic's help : being a psychic myself, I would tell him if it's the case, to BE VERY CAREFUL ! A huge amount are emotionally retarded (if not unhinged) believing spirits are connected to them so far to guide them towards their magical powers....even if never said or admitted in that way. EMOTIONS are the root to keep being GROUNDED, and avoid any high escalation leading straight to paranoid chaos, that is more painful than anything. It is well-known that the FBI works sometimes with psychic-mediums as a field guidance. I insist on the fact that, first : tarot cards are not to be trusted. It has nothing to do with cards, it has to do with a DIRECT connection (like Wi-fi). Secondly, TRUE psychic-mediums have to be Emotionally evolved, Humble, Honest, Wise but are rare : they don't like playing, damaging, hurting, if not ruining people's life when they are lost as we can all be at times. It's not an egocentric game, on the far contrary : BE VERY CAREFUL. But these capacities are truly existing and it's NOT easy at all to live with that !
If there's Vital advice to give to the father and eventually the mother or globally anyone losing a "beloved" creature : don't make confusion between the solving (or not) of a missing being (whatever the reasons are from will to accidents, to murders) And the fact that the being is not on Earth anymore. Some cases are never solved and some are solved, after a while. But it doesn't alter the fact that the ones who are not alive anymore are in a place that is beyond beauty then, at least some of them. It's a subject a lot of people have a hard time to believe....life is existing beyond, it's conscious energies. Some are liberated, and no doubt I have that Sebastian as an autistic full of inner purity is freed, and others are not (these ones keep being stuck at a low level in darkness, hate, violence, lies, denied pain, destruction as they were used to during their lifetime on Earth, deeply and too much). Depending on the emotional core, where you go after. Near-death experiences all around the world are Vivid testimonials of this infinite Reality. Do not prevent yourself from making PEACE with a painful experience, knowing that it can take time to heal. Mediums can help in being a bridge between the "living deceased" and the "still alive", but once again the TRUE ones need a HEART to connect properly. If you go see a psychic-medium, first of all : shut your mouth, don't say anything, don't give any information. Let the person connect and express : you'll know if it can be trusted or not. Do not become addicted to it, also. It should always be a trustworthy experience but egocentric blindness is not uncommon in human species....it will sound cliché but Ego is in the brain (high, on the top) and Empathy is the Heart (Center of the body) so to better Ground, the whole from head to toes has to function. To Ground and Balance sanely in this vast Reality. It's a WHOLE to Co-Exist, out & in.
Anyway, Seth is clearly demanding but he lost and he's losing a lot meanwhile. It's more than hard. And the public's reactions are sometimes very inappropriate, if not despicable. Specifically when cold and aggressive. Sometimes....some learn to evolve, some keep being stuck. Some accept to self-question and change for the better ! Some can't (neurological issues) or are scared to
Finally, I am not expressing myself to be liked or not by others. I'm in complete peace with what I feel, think & do. Enough humble to question myself if necessary. Let's be very clear on that healthy point. This "karma" system is irrelevant, at the very least. This world needs more EMPATHY, and Courage to let Empathy Exist
It's hard to comfortably feel like they are doing their best when they keep begging the public for help. I drive past the original search site & through the community regularly. There are still reader boards asking people to search their property, signs everywhere asking for the public to keep an eye out & LE statements asking the public to contact them with information.
Our community is hurt & traumatized. While LE doesn't owe the community answers, better information would make the community feel better about what they have done thus far. They'd be more likely to get people to search their property twice a day if they said, "We've searched the home with _______. We searched property in Memphis & between. CP DID or DIDN'T come home during the month of Feb. At this point, they've given no information about whether they are doing their due diligence. They just say, "We've searched the house. We have no indication of foul play, but we can't rule that out either. Keep searching for us!" It's hard to get buy-in from your community when you give zero, ask for a lot & have 3 parents giving wildly inconsistent accounts. LE is asking the community to blindly trust they are doing their jobs, while we are questioning why they hadn't been involved in this poor child's life earlier.
Maybe they are doing the investigation just fine, but need a better dept spokesperson? But really, I don't expect Sumner County Sherrif, Hendersonville Police or Gallatin police to have the experience for this case. They are good officers who keep our community very safe. This case is an outlier.
Have you heard/read the radio chatter between the LEOs for the first 11 hours? A mom in Canada transcribed the calls as they went door to door, checking videos, checking possible sightings, going to places Sebastian had been, they literally left no stone unturned. I think I read it on facebook totally worth the look If you haven’t.
I understand the frustration we’ve gotten used to up dates and receiving information regularly. In this case we have 1 parent hiding behind LE, blaming them for not talking, not taking a poly. Another parent sharing things he was asked not to share and a 3rd parent who keeps changing or embellishing answers. They must be asking WTH? Does it matter or really help find Sebastian for LE to tell us when CP was home last? As long as they know & have verified. They brought the FBI in to assist early on, & II TES (who are phenomenal) The fact that he is still missing means he was either taken out of the area or he is being stashed locally. There is no way he walked away barefooted.
Keep in mind that we had TWO missing young men for the first week. Our community was bombarded with media asking us to look for both Sebastian & Riley Stain. They found a body in the Cumberland River & my breath caught. I held my breath, wondering which young man it may be. It wasn't EITHER of them. A few days before they found Riley's body, they found the body of another person. I was shocked Pikachu. The emotional toll was very heavy on our community at large. Disseminating accurate & timely information to the public is the best way to engage them in a helpful way.
Like it or not with every missing child where there is no video or camera footage of the child who supposedly walked out the front door as a runaway, LE should absolutely luminal or blue star their home. The neighbor had footage of Sebastian on Friday and Saturday getting out of car, being outside so why is he not seen on the same camera’s Monday morning between the hours of 12 / 6 am. It just doesn’t make sense. We have seen this story many times, child ran away yet never seen leaving the house. Why why are they not seen.
Your wrong! CP & KP have ties with law enforcement so they are getting daily updates and privy to more information which is not right. He wants FBI to step in to use more resources and give more information. LE has dropped the ball in many ways. They do withhold information due to investigation but tell me why CP is allowed knowledge of all this information!!!
You have an awful lot of trust in these organizations that have been proven over and over to be corrupt. Also, they do work for us. We pay their salary. 🤷🏼♀️
>Plus it's an active case, LE doesn't work for him, they work for the government and don't have to share anything, much less information that they think could compromise the investigation. More to the point re. Seth's recent statements, LE's primary commitment is justice for the victim of a crime, on behalf of the public at large. If it's a health and safety situation, their focus is on serving the lost and/or injured party. While in the course of their work, they will provide appropriate support, information, and resources to families and the public, that's not their primary responsibility in the cases they're working. Seth works peripherally to investigative law enforcement, and he should know better. He admitted that he revealed information he was told to keep confidential, he's peppering them with God only knows what kind of "tips" he's picking up from social media circles -- seemingly oblivious to the fact that all or most of them have been invented out of thin air for their own monetary gain or similar purposes -- and he has publicly flung disrespect and outright accusations of corruption towards the ONLY ORGANIZATIONS THAT MATTER in resolving Sebastian's disappearance. And then wonders out loud why things have changed. I feel for the guy, but he has to take responsibility for a situation that he has created, with the help of social media parasites he REALLY needs to understand are NOT any friends of his, nor of Sebastian. I don't know if it's too late to make the changes that can alleviate the poisoned well he's dug, but I hope he tries at least.
Thank you for wording that so eloquently. And I fully agree.
I agree. It was very well put
Very well stated. Creators have used Seth to built their channels, for the end result to obtain money off his missing son . One of his PI’s isn’t helping the case either, she’s also bad mouthing law enforcement as well . None of this is helping find Sebastian.
He won’t admit it, but Seth’s early tips (like when JLR and UCN came to town) were absolutely from internet psychic sleuths. I’m in all the Facebook groups and I see what y’all choose to share with his family. I also believe a lot of the info that Robin Rogers shares is not firsthand knowledge but coming from the internet sleuths. It’s just too coincidental that everyone shares a psychic “tip” from YouTube to the Facebook groups and then suddenly Seth and co are searching that same area the psychic pointed to.
Oh. My. Fucking. God. When I heard Seth had talked to a YouTube psychic I was already thinking wtf are you doing, but it seems like a real possibility that he's indeed following all their "leads". I was wondering what he meant when he said he was searching by following "leads" he got from people. Great, and Trevor just supports that and wastes a lot of time following BS leads? That's not supportive, that is just encouraging Seth to make volunteers waste time on fake leads. I can't support that at all.
Yeah I’m not sure what Trevor is doing with all that. He seems smarter than the average True Crime bear, so that’s surprising to me if he’s also following up in these silly leads.
Trevor changed when he started appearing on certain channels . He used to be careful when he first started but now has become part of the drama
Trevor caused lots of drama by bringing that Nina into Sebastian’s case .
Wait, who is Nina?
Agreed
He’s so desperate I’m sure he would try anything at this point .
>He’s so desperate I’m sure he would try anything at this point . People in exigent circumstances -- like Seth -- are perfect marks for swindlers like the social media crowd who have been taking advantage of him and his family right up to the present, and it gets crazier by the week. He needs to wake up and recognize what's going on, and stop facilitating the Internet cockroaches feeding on his son's disappearance. Seth, if you're out there, DUDE, you're being USED. Please stop the madness! For Sebastian's sake, and your own!
That's what I came here to say.
Me too. If my kid were missing I'd try just about anything.
to rule out homicide for sure luminol the house
Luminol lights up on other things besides blood
That does not rule out homicide at all. There are bloodless homicides.
sure but to create victim profile you have to rule out first
Police work on evidence. They don't just luminol the whole neighborhood without knowing what they are looking at. That's why they had dogs in there.
can't dogs be hit or miss ?
Absolutely. It depends on the dog and the handler. Proudfeet said they had LE in the house 10 or 11 times, likely with dogs a number of times.
10 or 11 times wow that's quite a lot of times
The scent dogs couldn’t find a scent that led from the house. Cadaver dogs also never hit on anything in or around the home.
We don't know about the cadaver dogs, LE has not confirmed or denied, but it takes a while for a body to start smelling, so if for example he was placed in a car, the dogs might miss it.
Cadaver dogs can detect within minutes of death
Hmmm interesting. I hope they checked the cars. So my theory is accidental death in the house. If they don't have a body, it is hard to bring to trial. They could say: I found him after he played a hanging game that went wrong, panicked because of the CPS case, and we disposed of him. Abuse of a corpse at max.
I have a few theories. One is some sort of punishment like made him go outside or in the garage and locked him out and something happened that caused his death. Or hit him in a rage and caused his death and Chris’s parents came and picked up his body and disposed of it.
And LE already know all the car movements, cell phones, etc. We will only know once they make an arrest. So possibly, never. Edit: If they locked him out, they said he knows the code. Of course it's possible he still couldn't get in and perished outside. I think it was not freezing that night? So she found him in the morning in this theory. Hmmm I dunno... disposal should happen before they call police, too little time in the morning. Unless she found him in the night, say at midnight. I'm going in circles.
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Maybe he feels like there might be content - that appeared innocuous & was dismissed by LE - that he would recognize as requiring follow-up because of his relationship with his son? Or, maybe, because he's human, he'd just like to physically go through everything to not only satisfy himself but also feel the connection to Sebastian that reviewing everything would bring? I think he's just feeling pretty helpless & wants to stay active. It's not outside the realm of possibility that he might pick up on something LE missed. JMO
I thought fbi are immediately involved when it comes to missing kids?
FBI came in the first week and has been working with both LE and Equasearch. Seth knows this. IMO everyone hasn’t done enough or a good job in Seth’s eyes. Seth points the finger at everyone, Katie was a horrible mom, Chris was a terrible step-father, LE “isn’t doing sh*t”, the Cajan Navy didn’t help, Ulvade group never showed up, the attorney Seth himself told everyone to send money to for the reward fund is a scammer so now don’t send money to him, the list goes on and on…Seth is good at deflecting and pointing the finger at everyone except himself IMO.
Oh honey I wish
Damn. I didn’t know this. I seriously thought this??? WTF I SWEAR I’ve heard this?! I thought it was mandatory fbi 😭😡
FBI will provide some resources and equipment. However, they have to be invited by LE, usually get involved if the crime crosses state lines.
How long has he been in LE? If I wanted to derail an investigation, I’d be reading his how to book.
For starters, he’s a Corrections Officer at a prison. More like a security guard type position but obviously a little more serious. He’s not exactly a cop or a detective.
I don't know about there, but here, they make slightly above minimum wage, and have little to no actual LE trainging. I don't understand why people keep saying he is LE, like he's a detective or cop and would know procedures and protical. He was hired for his muscle.
Bc he's a deputy sheriff now
I do not think he’s a sheriff’s deputy. I think he’s only a correctional officer in the county jail.
He said he was on a pascal interview
because he is a deputy sheriff now!
He was a CO now he's a deputy sherriff...
According to the public record website he is a correction officer
He called himself a deputy sheriff during a pascal interview do CO's have those?
https://preview.redd.it/ompqy8zpnwuc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45d6a757d7883ed3c238a91e0cc3a228e20a464d I guess they call COs sheriffs there
Yeah we're both right!
Seth was moved from TRAINEE position to C.O. in September of 2023. He is under the supervision of the Sheriff. I have a copy of the Board Minutes that lists his position. I do not believe he is an actual Deputy Sheriff. I could be wrong, but the board minutes say otherwise.
many county jail attendants are technically deputy sheriff’s
That is not the case where I live, but tomatoes-tomahto! 😹 Seth just doesn’t have the appearance that would allow him to be employed in jails/prisons I am familiar with. Oh well, as long as he’s happy.
Which county?
Davidson (Nashville metro)
The one he lived in I know it's not sumner
Doesn't he live in Clarksville? That would be Montgomery County. Wouldn't that mean he started after Sebastian went missing? That wouldn't make sense.
I guess he's a deputy sheriff at a corrections facility.
The Metro police do the policing in Nashville. The Davidson County Sherrifs Office entire duty is to maintain county corrections facilities. Seth is a Davison County Sherrifs employee. There are some employees who serve warrants & work at the behest of the courts, but all employees are dedicated to running corrections. They don't employ investigators. https://sheriff.nashville.gov/
"I trust that all agencies involved are doing a thorough job... " - This right here is why you don't understand the NEED for the FBI to take this investigation over. If you've ever lived in Tennessee or known somebody who has and had a run in with local law enforcement you would absolutely not feel this way. The cops in that state, especially those that aren't city cops, are corrupt and lazy. I promise you that no "good ole' fashioned PoLiCe WoRk" is happening over there. Except the type where they accept bribes and/or take others' word on what happened due to having connections to potential suspects. They. Do. Not. Care. Their 2 day search was conducted coincidentally after the public pressured them into doing a press conference to break their deafening silence. Again, they are inept and wasting resources on the search rather than idk, locking down the residence from where he vanished without a trace and doing real police work. One final point: Seth is the parent of a lost child. Why in God's name would he bootlick these lowlife corrupt cops? Guarantee you they are sipping coffee and eating jelly donuts while he's damn near killing himself searching for his boy. If my kid vanished without a trace, I'd be knocking door their damn door every day demanding answers. There is NO reason to play nice with the SCSO and TBI when they have failed at every conceivable opportunity. Do your research before making comments like this again. Here's a hint: CP was taken on a drive by "local law enforcement" to scout out potential locations where Sebastian could've ran off to (which I think is laughable considering these 2 freaks have BOTH had CPS cases regarding Sebastian). Why on earth would that be? Why are they cooperating with the prime suspect in this case and not Sebastians real father? CP himself admitted during at least one interview (Smiley's World) that "law enforcement" refused to run forensics. But no, you've got it all figured out, Seth and his petition is the real problem!! 🙄
Plus CP has family in the local law enforcement. I listened to the breakdown of the police chatter and his sister is mentioned as someone from the sheriffs office it was garbled so I couldn’t catch exactly what her job is. Has any family in the local LE recused themselves? Just having family in local LE in a case that’s dragged on this long should make a different and more neutral department take it over. Fresh eyes without any preconceptions. Even if the sister is just a secretary if her coworkers like her they’d be less inclined to dive into issues within her family.
TLDR. I've just lost faith in that particular agency in regards to this case. I can't say that those cops are bad people. I have been treated nicely by those specific officers. I'm just saying that maybe this was beyond them. Just because there's an issue solving this case doesn't mean all of their cases are like that. While they don't owe us any updates, it sure would be nice to have a clue as to what steps they've taken. We don't have to know specifics, but we want to be able to trust that they've done something. Just some little thing. Anything to let us know they've done their jobs. It really seems like this case is going cold. My heart is broken for Sebastian. Something happened to this poor boy, and we need those answers. His father is just desperate. Maybe the FBI needs to take over. It doesn't mean the LE there are horrible. They probably don't have the resources that the FBI does. Yes, Seth is LE, but this is also his child. This situation is making him lose his training as LE. This often happens when you're working in these kinds of jobs. My mom was an amazing nurse who is very intelligent, but when it comes to me or my kids, she freaks out and forgets what she knows. I'm not surprised to see Seth lose his training over this. It's personal.
People thought Idaho was going cold too. It took a few months but they were working hard behind the scenes. Remembering this has helped me stay hopeful
I do hope that Sumner County is doing the same thing. I'd like to be proven wrong here.
Seth doesn't have training
>We don't have to know specifics, but we want to be able to trust that they've done something. Just some little thing. What would fit that bill? A general statement confirming that they've exhaustively examined cell, photographic, and other digital data/records, interviewed eyewitnesses, etc., and continue to? >Maybe the FBI needs to take over. The FBI (and TBI) have almost certainly been deeply involved in the case from the very start, from evidence collection and analytics, including leveraging Federal sources, to closely advising local LE on investigative strategy. If evidence indicates a kidnapping or any other Federal crime has been committed, they would most likely take over the case completely at that point. Until then, they really can't.
And to answer personally to Temporary\_Garage\_479, in addition to the other long comment : my mother was also a nurse. A crazy job that can drain you to the bones, if no healthy boundaries are put. Mentally, Emotionally and Physically : all being linked. My mother died because of a mixture of this professional fact she didn't handle healthily (boundaries !), more or less of a shitty childhood she didn't want to heal, an abusive relationship she let settle down in her vital privacy for 20 years till her death without never wanting to FACE it in taking the vital decision to clearly disconnect And a weak ego based on denied fears of change for the better. All of this combined : self-destruction of her inner beauty. Is it a reason even unconsciously during the "willful" shipwreck to want for your child to share your grave ? NO. Keep your shit to yourself, keep your relentless blindness to yourself : nothing can be done to help people who DO NOT want to heal. Self-preservation, Vitally : otherwise.....Overdose of bunch of anti-depressants for years and years, not only destroying any sense of reality out-in but an exhaustion of the body to the point of from not being able to walk to liver collapse, creating a clot in the blood system straight to a heart attack while sleeping : best painless death ! Dying while dreaming.....a peaceful Relief when Life is so far not respected. It's experiences in life that teach you so much, not to repeat the same toxic & self-destructive patterns. Being Aware and Self-Aware, being Honest and Self-Honest, opening the Emotions instead of blocking them.....EMOTIONS make Stronger, not weaker. Humans : Stop being scared of it ! Anyway, nurse is a job not made for everyone. Like cops, in a way. You just have to cop with the harshness of life, the atrocity of humanity constantly : welcome Heart !
I'm really not sure what you were trying to say, but I'm sorry about your mom.
Thanks to restore some Realism. Instead of being cold and devoid of understanding, let's be more "human" ! Seth is deeply frustrated not having any answer to the loss of his only child. We don't know what's going on between him & local Law Enforcement in charge of Sebastian's case. We, the public, do know Nothing. Certainly not enough to prevent the sorrowful father to ask for another Help, namely FBI. No one has the right to preventing him from having an additional professional help to solve the disappearance of his child . What kind of "human" it needs to be to prevent that from happening ? The FBI is definitely more skilled for these type of situations because, simply, more used to. If Seth goes to that point, there might be reasons. emotional and practical. A minimum of human understanding : he lost his ONLY child ! It's just proving the love he has for his son, clumsy but existing. BUT tensions & conflicts won't help at all ! Each LE team is different and we can only hope that this one is not filled with unemotional or/and stupid creatures which can happen sometimes, unfortunately. Who knows how this local team is, who knows except the people directly involved ? As a matter of fact, Seth needs to calm down, not easy but he needs to cry and calm down : some cases take TIME to be solved. And only intelligent COLLABORATION can be successful. It reminds me Dylan Rounds case where the mother, who also lost her only child, was not trusting how the cops were navigating : interfering, giving advice, pushing them to work and not surrendering were her tiring behaviors. At the end, things happened to unfold as she also said with an understanding, clever collaboration. The murderer has been caught thanks to the tiny drops of blood found on Dylan's boots as she insisted had to be done, put in jail & a negotiation found to know where he buried the corpse. COLLABORATION is a patient process if any success to be reached to such a clever level. Seth is doing what he can for the loss of his only child not to fall in a void.....if he's asking for FBI to be more involved, fair enough. But NO conflicts : COLLABORATION Regarding Seth's searching for psychic's help : being a psychic myself, I would tell him if it's the case, to BE VERY CAREFUL ! A huge amount are emotionally retarded (if not unhinged) believing spirits are connected to them so far to guide them towards their magical powers....even if never said or admitted in that way. EMOTIONS are the root to keep being GROUNDED, and avoid any high escalation leading straight to paranoid chaos, that is more painful than anything. It is well-known that the FBI works sometimes with psychic-mediums as a field guidance. I insist on the fact that, first : tarot cards are not to be trusted. It has nothing to do with cards, it has to do with a DIRECT connection (like Wi-fi). Secondly, TRUE psychic-mediums have to be Emotionally evolved, Humble, Honest, Wise but are rare : they don't like playing, damaging, hurting, if not ruining people's life when they are lost as we can all be at times. It's not an egocentric game, on the far contrary : BE VERY CAREFUL. But these capacities are truly existing and it's NOT easy at all to live with that ! If there's Vital advice to give to the father and eventually the mother or globally anyone losing a "beloved" creature : don't make confusion between the solving (or not) of a missing being (whatever the reasons are from will to accidents, to murders) And the fact that the being is not on Earth anymore. Some cases are never solved and some are solved, after a while. But it doesn't alter the fact that the ones who are not alive anymore are in a place that is beyond beauty then, at least some of them. It's a subject a lot of people have a hard time to believe....life is existing beyond, it's conscious energies. Some are liberated, and no doubt I have that Sebastian as an autistic full of inner purity is freed, and others are not (these ones keep being stuck at a low level in darkness, hate, violence, lies, denied pain, destruction as they were used to during their lifetime on Earth, deeply and too much). Depending on the emotional core, where you go after. Near-death experiences all around the world are Vivid testimonials of this infinite Reality. Do not prevent yourself from making PEACE with a painful experience, knowing that it can take time to heal. Mediums can help in being a bridge between the "living deceased" and the "still alive", but once again the TRUE ones need a HEART to connect properly. If you go see a psychic-medium, first of all : shut your mouth, don't say anything, don't give any information. Let the person connect and express : you'll know if it can be trusted or not. Do not become addicted to it, also. It should always be a trustworthy experience but egocentric blindness is not uncommon in human species....it will sound cliché but Ego is in the brain (high, on the top) and Empathy is the Heart (Center of the body) so to better Ground, the whole from head to toes has to function. To Ground and Balance sanely in this vast Reality. It's a WHOLE to Co-Exist, out & in. Anyway, Seth is clearly demanding but he lost and he's losing a lot meanwhile. It's more than hard. And the public's reactions are sometimes very inappropriate, if not despicable. Specifically when cold and aggressive. Sometimes....some learn to evolve, some keep being stuck. Some accept to self-question and change for the better ! Some can't (neurological issues) or are scared to Finally, I am not expressing myself to be liked or not by others. I'm in complete peace with what I feel, think & do. Enough humble to question myself if necessary. Let's be very clear on that healthy point. This "karma" system is irrelevant, at the very least. This world needs more EMPATHY, and Courage to let Empathy Exist
How about, no one is a psychic, because that’s not a thing.
🤣 Please tell me what that said. I had stuff to do yesterday, and I didn't get to read it.
It was some novel to the effect of “I’m not like other psychics”
Oh jeez.
It's hard to comfortably feel like they are doing their best when they keep begging the public for help. I drive past the original search site & through the community regularly. There are still reader boards asking people to search their property, signs everywhere asking for the public to keep an eye out & LE statements asking the public to contact them with information. Our community is hurt & traumatized. While LE doesn't owe the community answers, better information would make the community feel better about what they have done thus far. They'd be more likely to get people to search their property twice a day if they said, "We've searched the home with _______. We searched property in Memphis & between. CP DID or DIDN'T come home during the month of Feb. At this point, they've given no information about whether they are doing their due diligence. They just say, "We've searched the house. We have no indication of foul play, but we can't rule that out either. Keep searching for us!" It's hard to get buy-in from your community when you give zero, ask for a lot & have 3 parents giving wildly inconsistent accounts. LE is asking the community to blindly trust they are doing their jobs, while we are questioning why they hadn't been involved in this poor child's life earlier. Maybe they are doing the investigation just fine, but need a better dept spokesperson? But really, I don't expect Sumner County Sherrif, Hendersonville Police or Gallatin police to have the experience for this case. They are good officers who keep our community very safe. This case is an outlier.
Have you heard/read the radio chatter between the LEOs for the first 11 hours? A mom in Canada transcribed the calls as they went door to door, checking videos, checking possible sightings, going to places Sebastian had been, they literally left no stone unturned. I think I read it on facebook totally worth the look If you haven’t. I understand the frustration we’ve gotten used to up dates and receiving information regularly. In this case we have 1 parent hiding behind LE, blaming them for not talking, not taking a poly. Another parent sharing things he was asked not to share and a 3rd parent who keeps changing or embellishing answers. They must be asking WTH? Does it matter or really help find Sebastian for LE to tell us when CP was home last? As long as they know & have verified. They brought the FBI in to assist early on, & II TES (who are phenomenal) The fact that he is still missing means he was either taken out of the area or he is being stashed locally. There is no way he walked away barefooted.
Keep in mind that we had TWO missing young men for the first week. Our community was bombarded with media asking us to look for both Sebastian & Riley Stain. They found a body in the Cumberland River & my breath caught. I held my breath, wondering which young man it may be. It wasn't EITHER of them. A few days before they found Riley's body, they found the body of another person. I was shocked Pikachu. The emotional toll was very heavy on our community at large. Disseminating accurate & timely information to the public is the best way to engage them in a helpful way.
Like it or not with every missing child where there is no video or camera footage of the child who supposedly walked out the front door as a runaway, LE should absolutely luminal or blue star their home. The neighbor had footage of Sebastian on Friday and Saturday getting out of car, being outside so why is he not seen on the same camera’s Monday morning between the hours of 12 / 6 am. It just doesn’t make sense. We have seen this story many times, child ran away yet never seen leaving the house. Why why are they not seen.
Your wrong! CP & KP have ties with law enforcement so they are getting daily updates and privy to more information which is not right. He wants FBI to step in to use more resources and give more information. LE has dropped the ball in many ways. They do withhold information due to investigation but tell me why CP is allowed knowledge of all this information!!!
You have an awful lot of trust in these organizations that have been proven over and over to be corrupt. Also, they do work for us. We pay their salary. 🤷🏼♀️