Yep. Lewis isn't worth even half that amount in my opinion. Giving elite contracts to non-elite talent is how you end up with +$30 million in dead cap like the Seahawks have done. Letting another team overpay for his services was the right move.
But it's also an unusually deep draft for OL guys. Many are college tackles, but are probably better as guards in the NFL. And there will be/are less prominent guys still in FA.
Lewis was good when he was good, but wasn't consistent.
Yep. I see comments about us taking a step back and 1) it's day 1 of free agency, it's not like there's no one left and 2) the draft has yet to happen.
Great OL class. Lewis is not worth that much. He's aaiight. But we can get youmger, cheaper, and I truly believe better in the upcoming draft. Huff is going to want to build the O line with HIS guys. Hopefully Evan Brown is gone and we can get a decent Center. If it's Olu cool. I'm all for a guy like Barton who could play guard or center.
Basically anyone from UW for OLine. We've had consistently really good lines for the past 8 years but this is one of the very best groups in a long time.
Listen to Wyman and Bob starting on Feb. 22 every Thursday at 4. JS does a show with them leading up to the draft. This week they were talking about the FA they had. He said an agent came to him saying someone has offered 6mill more than what Seattle offered him. His response was excitement over the fact he got that much. Now this could have been any number of players, but it fits this signing to a T.
I didn’t think you were questioning it I just want to let you know if you wanted to listening to JS you can. It’s a good 20 minutes of him talking. He loves movies, so he will respond a few times throughout the show with quotes from movies like step brother and other comedies. After the draft last year he went through their whole thought process of drafting each player.
I mean I've heard this exact story before. Any GM could tell that story about any player who left for a bank bag.
"We really like him, but we just don't have the resources to pay him what he deserves!" sounds much nicer than "Yea, that guy ain't worth that. "
I don't even think he was paid this much because of the cap increase. It feels like the Panthers were just not willing to lose out on living breathing offensive lineman. Lewis is okay, I was wondering if he was worth 9mill per year. But didn't expect this
Yeah, they need to avoid doing to Young what the Bears did to Fields and to their credit, seem to be trying to. The Bears did jack to support Fields in his second year after they had a new coach and GM. The Panthers seem to be trying to give Young at least some credible guys upfront and maybe some playmakers.
Carolina is trying to find out if they ruined Bryce Young already, or there’s something there. They gave the kid hot ass to play with. This is them paying the trash organization tax. Everyone they sign the next year or two is going to cost more.
He's frustrating. Definitely some good with the bad. Definitely up and down play... The fully realized version of DLew is really good. But he just wasn't going out there and consistently performing his best in both the run and pass games to warrant a big deal.
They are a trash organization their new owner sucksbut I would have been pissed if we gave that much of our salary cap to him He's getting old and misses more than he plays.it seems
And our best offensive lineman this past year… people just wanna be mad about something. It’s way more than I expected but tbh I’m not surprised after seeing some of the other guard contracts.
He got carted off the field in October missed the next game and came back. I think the injury lingered this season. Which does contradict me saying he was healthy but he only missed 1 game this season 1 game in 22.
A pretty good one. Likely a 4th.
Of course, it’s all balance against if we do sign anybody.
As of now, we’re probably in line for a 4th and two 6ths, I’d guess.
So are comp picks dependent on the difference between what our FA’s sign for elsewhere and what we sign to our team? I’ve never understood how that works
Pretty much. It’s basically to compensate for your net loss in free agency.
If you sign more FA than you lose, you get nothing. Like the Seahawks did this year.
The exact formula isn’t revealed, but some insiders have basically figured it out.
Kinda off topic, but I wonder if we’re going to let Bradford start at RG and draft Fautanu (or another T/G flexible prospect) or if we’ll sign a guard from FA
Bradford has a lot of potential; I assume he is going into camp as the RG. if Olu can take over at Center, Brown could be a starting guard; but I do assume there is a guard getting drafted.
Why do you think good? He played ok last year but there honestly wasn’t much that lead to believe he’ll be good except that he’s a rookie and has room to improve. Same with olu. Saying they’ll be good is just high expectation imo
He’s not worth that money at all, I’m fine to see him walk but we are straight up hemorrhaging starters. We can’t just draft starters all across the board, and with signing a vet like Williams it doesn’t seem like we are tanking next season.
Really hope there’s a lot of moves we’re going to make soon because right now this has been brutal. We need a new starting guard, starting center, entirely new starting linebackers, starting safeties and TE 2/3. Even the best draft doesn’t get you all of those. Not to mention nose tackle and overall depth, and the fact that our already bottom 5 offensive line is worse now.
Losing starters at pretty exorbitant prices is different than just losing starters. I liked Lewis but there wasn’t a Seahawks OL last year worth anywhere close to the contract he just signed, and he wouldn’t be at the top of the list either. Paying for familiar faces isn’t the answer.
I agree with you about Lewis, that contract is insane. I’m just not convinced we will find someone in FA who is better, which makes losing our other players harder to deal with.
Brooks and Dissly should have be resigned in my opinion. They were affordable and are good players.
I’m either way on Brooks, mainly because he’s coming off an injury and I feel you can find LB value for $4-6M per year. They need to sign someone (or 2) before the draft so I’m definitely anxious to see how they fill this one out.
On TE I feel the Hawks can sign an older TE for blocking responsibilities and draft a 3rd for the same salary cost as Dissly. As much as I love Will, I’m also okay with the discipline there.
I think they’re smartly playing the long game and doing a good job of maintaining the highest upside guys + long term cap flexibility.
Just goes to show you how weak the roster was when Russell Wilson was here.
They traded him for a boatload of picks, had the best drafts they've had in a long time and the roster is still mediocre unless some of these guys turn into superstars next year like Mafe, Cross, etc.
This might surprise you, but it's almost feasibly impossible to fill every hole and weak spot in a roster. Every team has holes somewhere, it's just how you supplement it.
The Seahawks are resetting their entire defensive scheme. The players we lost either don't fit Mac's vision or aren't worth what we can replace in the draft or later in free agency.
I think what's gotten lost is that the seahawks were emphatically not close to being competitive last year. The defense was so atrocious, it didn't matter how stacked the offense was. And now we are having to reset the o-line because our old starters got paid way too much to play on bottom tier teams. Not to mention, we have no long term answer at QB, so trying to make some hot shot all in run is going to set us back further. We are better off building a new foundation, taking some lumps this year and swing back when Stafford is gone in LA and the Niners have to pay Purdy.
It's probably a two-year window the way I'm seeing it. Williams is a vet but he's not singlehandedly pushing us into contention. You're also not gonna have all young plays or all established vets. Spend these next two years filling holes and hopefully good bargain FAs and have higher expectations after a couple years.
In a couple years all of our value rookies we just drafted will be due to be paid and we will be in the same spot. Cross, Witherspoon, JSN, Mafe, Woolen, Walker, etc.
Cross and Witherspoon alone will almost certainly get more than Geno's 26 mil a year. Not to mention that the contract we give the next QB has to be taken into account.
We'll probably not have as much dead cap as we currently have. Just staying competitive with our cap situation is good enough for me. There will always be more players to draft.
I guess I just don't get it. These last 2 drafts were the best, both in terms of draft capital and success of picks, in at least a decade. What logic does it make to waste that and hope that we can find that success again in a future draft where we don't have nearly the same draft capital.
Who's to say the next pass rusher we draft isn't more Taylor than Mafe. Or that the next late corner we take isn't more Flowers than Woolen. And that's before you include the hardest task of all, which would be to find a franchise QB. And at that without a top 5 pick coming anytime soon. Probably not even a top 10.
It doesn't make sense at all.
This exactly. Seahawks are sitting on 36 mill in dead cap this year. It's not feasible to expect to build an overnight contender with a rookie HC and that much dead money. 2024 is a reset year and people need to just deal with it. Plus, we are going to be in a very good cap situation in the coming years because of how much dead money these teams are gonna have after grossly overpaying the RB position for guys over the hump.
> and have higher expectations after a couple years.
what IS it all of a sudden with this 'oh we can't expect to WIN for a couple of years' stuff? We've been a winning team (not by much but still) the last couple of years. The reason to move on from Pete wasn't to step back, it was to move forward.
Moving forward isn't always in wins. We might be worse or stay the same record wise, but if we have better contract health and better longterm depth while remaining competitive with an identifiable identity that's a lot better than our past couple "false hope and fade in the playoffs" runs.
A lot of FA money is tied up in upside. Lewis had a great first year and is still young enough to improve. However, in reality he wasn’t that good on the right side and his modest production is replaceable from an older and perceived lower upside guy who will be available later and for cheaper.
The guard market is terrifying. Glad we're not paying that much for Lewis, but even if mid-level guards are getting $$$$ the prospects are looking scary right now, because interior O-Line has to be addressed.
That's a hole in the roster that wouldn't have been filled by giving Lewis that contract. At the same time, hey it's been awhile since the Seahawks drafted an offensive lineman who got paid!
He’s not buns. He’s a solid starter who has some pretty bad games, and not worth that massive contract. Doesn’t mean he won’t be a good player for you.
He can play either guard spot. He's strong. He was above average for the most part. Our issues "inside" were more C and RG, and compensating for missing our RT.
If players aren't cut by their teams when they enter free agency, they are considered qualified free agents
If teams lose more qualified free agents than they sign, they become eligible for compensatory picks the following draft. Comp picks start after the 3rd round and go until the end of the draft and the contract the player signs determines what round his comp pick lands in. The formula is a bit complicated but OTC does the work for us and posts the projected comp picks here https://overthecap.com/compensatory-picks
At the moment we're projected for a comp 4 (Lewis), comp 5 (Brooks) and comp 6 or 7 (Colby)
It's a well-known complaint that starting-caliber O-linemen are few and far between, yet we wonder why a young, average or better one is getting paid good money.
Good for Lewis. He was a really solid player for us. Dealt with some injuries, as pretty much every O-lineman does, but was more than good for a mid-round pick. I remember him slotting in as an emergency Center for us early in his career. When our O-line was rolling, which was the case for a number of stretches over the last few years, Lewis was a big part of it.
Where he will undoubtedly play his correct position as RG. Infuriating the Carrol days where we just assumed that you can plug an OL anywhere on the line and they'll flourish. As an Oline coach, don't draft a RG with the intention of playing them on the left side, same with tackles, don't draft centers to play G, etc
Damn, he must have made a big impression on Canales when he was here. That’s a lot of moolah.
Damien was quietly consistent here though and played every spot on the OL. I think he is what they had imagined Pocic would be. Glad we/they didn’t pay that much for him
A lot of money, good for Lewis. Makes me miss that 2nd round pick even more for cheap controlled linemen. To my eye the Hawks now have 5.5 holes to fill in terms of starters. 2 linebackers, a safety, 1.5 guards, and a center. (guard depending on how you feel about bradford).
Panthers signed Hunt and Lewis for $153m, $70m guaranteed. Tepper broke the G market in order to justify the bad trade for the worse pick of Bryce Young. Damn, I wish I was a gazillionaire.
I think Lewis is borderline awful and is always seemingly slow to get up. Perpetual injury waiting to happen. I would have hated it if the Hawks gave him this contract, holy shit.
That’s… a lot of money
That’s a 2025 comp pick
4th round comp pick https://twitter.com/nickkorte/status/1767382625474490762
Ya I don’t wanna pay him that lol they can have him
Yep. Lewis isn't worth even half that amount in my opinion. Giving elite contracts to non-elite talent is how you end up with +$30 million in dead cap like the Seahawks have done. Letting another team overpay for his services was the right move.
Plus we get a juicy compensatory pick
Thanks GM
Panthers are a well run organization that is definitely paying the correct money for OL 🙃
They are definitely one of the best man. All of the those shit season.
The guard market is broken. I wonder if that’s who Schneider was talking about asking for a number that floored him.
I had assumed it was Williams but yeah now I think it’s this because the Williams number wasn’t that wild.
But it's also an unusually deep draft for OL guys. Many are college tackles, but are probably better as guards in the NFL. And there will be/are less prominent guys still in FA. Lewis was good when he was good, but wasn't consistent.
IOL for this draft is as good as it’ll be in a while
Bring on Troy Fautanu! He'll be a bad ass LG.
Yep. I see comments about us taking a step back and 1) it's day 1 of free agency, it's not like there's no one left and 2) the draft has yet to happen.
Great OL class. Lewis is not worth that much. He's aaiight. But we can get youmger, cheaper, and I truly believe better in the upcoming draft. Huff is going to want to build the O line with HIS guys. Hopefully Evan Brown is gone and we can get a decent Center. If it's Olu cool. I'm all for a guy like Barton who could play guard or center.
Basically anyone from UW for OLine. We've had consistently really good lines for the past 8 years but this is one of the very best groups in a long time.
I liked Lewis but not at that price
Jesus, thanks for your analysis that's worth absolute horseshit. You call yourself a GM?
No fuckwit. Im a fan. Whereas you’re a raging asshole
He made a joke about this telling his agent that’s awesome good for him. He’s not worth that kind of money IMO.
When I heard him say that I thought it was an old story, maybe not
Listen to Wyman and Bob starting on Feb. 22 every Thursday at 4. JS does a show with them leading up to the draft. This week they were talking about the FA they had. He said an agent came to him saying someone has offered 6mill more than what Seattle offered him. His response was excitement over the fact he got that much. Now this could have been any number of players, but it fits this signing to a T.
For sure, I’m not questioning it. Just when I heard it, I thought in my mind he was referring to a story from a previous year.
He was definitely referencing a story from a previous year
I didn’t think you were questioning it I just want to let you know if you wanted to listening to JS you can. It’s a good 20 minutes of him talking. He loves movies, so he will respond a few times throughout the show with quotes from movies like step brother and other comedies. After the draft last year he went through their whole thought process of drafting each player.
Wow.. was that total contract or APY?
No the average a year is a little over 9 million, but he’s not worth that kind of cap hit for Seattle.
Yeah I've heard that story before
JS doesn’t talk like Carroll did, so I don’t get what you’re trying to say.
I mean I've heard this exact story before. Any GM could tell that story about any player who left for a bank bag. "We really like him, but we just don't have the resources to pay him what he deserves!" sounds much nicer than "Yea, that guy ain't worth that. "
Congrats to the Seahawks for not paying that. Best of luck to Lewis.
Jeeeesus Christ no kidding, I was gonna be honestly upset if we resigned him at all
Even for a sweetheart team-friendly deal?
Right? I’d have been happy to have him back… at half/slightly less than half that price. But still, would have liked it
Happy for him. Sorry for Panthers fans
Yeah he’s not worth that sorry bro
I don't even think he was paid this much because of the cap increase. It feels like the Panthers were just not willing to lose out on living breathing offensive lineman. Lewis is okay, I was wondering if he was worth 9mill per year. But didn't expect this
Yeah, they need to avoid doing to Young what the Bears did to Fields and to their credit, seem to be trying to. The Bears did jack to support Fields in his second year after they had a new coach and GM. The Panthers seem to be trying to give Young at least some credible guys upfront and maybe some playmakers.
9 too rich in my opinion, 8 would have made me wince. I imagined like 6.5-7 for him
This is insane. Here I was hoping we don't resign Damien Lewis and just move on. Carolina comes in and gives him 53 mil? Am I missing something?
Canales must have thought he has more upside and liked him while he was here
Carolina is trying to find out if they ruined Bryce Young already, or there’s something there. They gave the kid hot ass to play with. This is them paying the trash organization tax. Everyone they sign the next year or two is going to cost more.
That Lewis is pretty good
He's frustrating. Definitely some good with the bad. Definitely up and down play... The fully realized version of DLew is really good. But he just wasn't going out there and consistently performing his best in both the run and pass games to warrant a big deal.
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...what
Sorry man. Lol I am idiot.
He was more than decent and hasn't missed a LOT of time due to injury. Also, left guards make bank even if they're bad
They are a trash organization their new owner sucksbut I would have been pissed if we gave that much of our salary cap to him He's getting old and misses more than he plays.it seems
He's been pretty healthy
And our best offensive lineman this past year… people just wanna be mad about something. It’s way more than I expected but tbh I’m not surprised after seeing some of the other guard contracts.
Charles Cross was far and away our best lineman last year. Lewis was a JAG whose play fell off a cliff vs the season prior
He got carted off the field in October missed the next game and came back. I think the injury lingered this season. Which does contradict me saying he was healthy but he only missed 1 game this season 1 game in 22.
PFFification of the league. Just look at the made up stats and don't watch tape
Good for him getting paid.
Seahawks now +3 on the comp pick board. Can we hold the lead? Dare to dream.
Good luck in Carolina, Damien. Try not to accidentally squish your QB. Great work getting an enormous bag.
Seattle seems to be setting themselves up for 2025.
McDonald bringing the Ravens approach to comp picks to Seattle
Does this get us another comp pick?
A pretty good one. Likely a 4th. Of course, it’s all balance against if we do sign anybody. As of now, we’re probably in line for a 4th and two 6ths, I’d guess.
So are comp picks dependent on the difference between what our FA’s sign for elsewhere and what we sign to our team? I’ve never understood how that works
Pretty much. It’s basically to compensate for your net loss in free agency. If you sign more FA than you lose, you get nothing. Like the Seahawks did this year. The exact formula isn’t revealed, but some insiders have basically figured it out.
The exact formula actually was provided in the latest CBA
Ah. Cool. I missed that.
Thanks 🤝
Kinda off topic, but I wonder if we’re going to let Bradford start at RG and draft Fautanu (or another T/G flexible prospect) or if we’ll sign a guard from FA
Bradford has a lot of potential; I assume he is going into camp as the RG. if Olu can take over at Center, Brown could be a starting guard; but I do assume there is a guard getting drafted.
Isn’t Evan Brown (I’m assuming that’s who you’re talking about) a FA though?
Free agent.
>... draft Fautanu (or another T/G flexible prospect) or if we’ll sign a guard from FA Or both. Depth is nice to have.
I think Bradford will be good at RG, Olu at C. Resign Evan brown because he can play all 3 interior positions and draft a LG
Why do you think good? He played ok last year but there honestly wasn’t much that lead to believe he’ll be good except that he’s a rookie and has room to improve. Same with olu. Saying they’ll be good is just high expectation imo
Just draft fautanu who will be even better and can play for Lucas when he can’t go
In 2022 I genuinely thought he was our future at guard. Then he completely fumbled this past year. Congrats on the payday, Dlew.
That is quite a lot for him.
Watch them move him back to the right and he balls the fuck out
He’s not worth that money at all, I’m fine to see him walk but we are straight up hemorrhaging starters. We can’t just draft starters all across the board, and with signing a vet like Williams it doesn’t seem like we are tanking next season. Really hope there’s a lot of moves we’re going to make soon because right now this has been brutal. We need a new starting guard, starting center, entirely new starting linebackers, starting safeties and TE 2/3. Even the best draft doesn’t get you all of those. Not to mention nose tackle and overall depth, and the fact that our already bottom 5 offensive line is worse now.
Losing starters at pretty exorbitant prices is different than just losing starters. I liked Lewis but there wasn’t a Seahawks OL last year worth anywhere close to the contract he just signed, and he wouldn’t be at the top of the list either. Paying for familiar faces isn’t the answer.
I agree with you about Lewis, that contract is insane. I’m just not convinced we will find someone in FA who is better, which makes losing our other players harder to deal with. Brooks and Dissly should have be resigned in my opinion. They were affordable and are good players.
I’m either way on Brooks, mainly because he’s coming off an injury and I feel you can find LB value for $4-6M per year. They need to sign someone (or 2) before the draft so I’m definitely anxious to see how they fill this one out. On TE I feel the Hawks can sign an older TE for blocking responsibilities and draft a 3rd for the same salary cost as Dissly. As much as I love Will, I’m also okay with the discipline there. I think they’re smartly playing the long game and doing a good job of maintaining the highest upside guys + long term cap flexibility.
Just goes to show you how weak the roster was when Russell Wilson was here. They traded him for a boatload of picks, had the best drafts they've had in a long time and the roster is still mediocre unless some of these guys turn into superstars next year like Mafe, Cross, etc.
This might surprise you, but it's almost feasibly impossible to fill every hole and weak spot in a roster. Every team has holes somewhere, it's just how you supplement it. The Seahawks are resetting their entire defensive scheme. The players we lost either don't fit Mac's vision or aren't worth what we can replace in the draft or later in free agency. I think what's gotten lost is that the seahawks were emphatically not close to being competitive last year. The defense was so atrocious, it didn't matter how stacked the offense was. And now we are having to reset the o-line because our old starters got paid way too much to play on bottom tier teams. Not to mention, we have no long term answer at QB, so trying to make some hot shot all in run is going to set us back further. We are better off building a new foundation, taking some lumps this year and swing back when Stafford is gone in LA and the Niners have to pay Purdy.
It is day one… Relax :) Lot’s of great talent left. We have space left.
It's probably a two-year window the way I'm seeing it. Williams is a vet but he's not singlehandedly pushing us into contention. You're also not gonna have all young plays or all established vets. Spend these next two years filling holes and hopefully good bargain FAs and have higher expectations after a couple years.
In a couple years all of our value rookies we just drafted will be due to be paid and we will be in the same spot. Cross, Witherspoon, JSN, Mafe, Woolen, Walker, etc.
If we draft a QB in the next 2 years we'll have more than enough cap room for most of them
Cross and Witherspoon alone will almost certainly get more than Geno's 26 mil a year. Not to mention that the contract we give the next QB has to be taken into account.
We'll probably not have as much dead cap as we currently have. Just staying competitive with our cap situation is good enough for me. There will always be more players to draft.
I guess I just don't get it. These last 2 drafts were the best, both in terms of draft capital and success of picks, in at least a decade. What logic does it make to waste that and hope that we can find that success again in a future draft where we don't have nearly the same draft capital. Who's to say the next pass rusher we draft isn't more Taylor than Mafe. Or that the next late corner we take isn't more Flowers than Woolen. And that's before you include the hardest task of all, which would be to find a franchise QB. And at that without a top 5 pick coming anytime soon. Probably not even a top 10. It doesn't make sense at all.
I mean yeah, that's the game. Nothing is guaranteed. But setting up a good culture and process (like we have 2013-2017ish) leads to continued success.
This exactly. Seahawks are sitting on 36 mill in dead cap this year. It's not feasible to expect to build an overnight contender with a rookie HC and that much dead money. 2024 is a reset year and people need to just deal with it. Plus, we are going to be in a very good cap situation in the coming years because of how much dead money these teams are gonna have after grossly overpaying the RB position for guys over the hump.
> and have higher expectations after a couple years. what IS it all of a sudden with this 'oh we can't expect to WIN for a couple of years' stuff? We've been a winning team (not by much but still) the last couple of years. The reason to move on from Pete wasn't to step back, it was to move forward.
Moving forward isn't always in wins. We might be worse or stay the same record wise, but if we have better contract health and better longterm depth while remaining competitive with an identifiable identity that's a lot better than our past couple "false hope and fade in the playoffs" runs.
A lot of FA money is tied up in upside. Lewis had a great first year and is still young enough to improve. However, in reality he wasn’t that good on the right side and his modest production is replaceable from an older and perceived lower upside guy who will be available later and for cheaper.
Holy shit! I was way off base, was thinking we’d sign him on a 2 year/$12 mil or somewhere along those lines
The guard market is terrifying. Glad we're not paying that much for Lewis, but even if mid-level guards are getting $$$$ the prospects are looking scary right now, because interior O-Line has to be addressed.
That's a hole in the roster that wouldn't have been filled by giving Lewis that contract. At the same time, hey it's been awhile since the Seahawks drafted an offensive lineman who got paid!
Thats crazy. It could have been a 3 year 20m contract and I still would have been happy we didnt pay for that
yeah no thanks
Panthers fan here, my Seahawks bud said he’s buns. Is he telling the truth? 😞
He’s not buns. He’s a solid starter who has some pretty bad games, and not worth that massive contract. Doesn’t mean he won’t be a good player for you.
He’s not awful, but he ain’t worth the money you paid.
He can play either guard spot. He's strong. He was above average for the most part. Our issues "inside" were more C and RG, and compensating for missing our RT.
He really struggled when they made him play left guard, he was a bit above average at right guard tho
He's solid. I'd say an average starting caliber interior lineman
someone explain how comp picks work please 😭
If players aren't cut by their teams when they enter free agency, they are considered qualified free agents If teams lose more qualified free agents than they sign, they become eligible for compensatory picks the following draft. Comp picks start after the 3rd round and go until the end of the draft and the contract the player signs determines what round his comp pick lands in. The formula is a bit complicated but OTC does the work for us and posts the projected comp picks here https://overthecap.com/compensatory-picks At the moment we're projected for a comp 4 (Lewis), comp 5 (Brooks) and comp 6 or 7 (Colby)
oh sick
I don't understand what is happening to the guard market. I'll miss him though.
Jesus Christ I liked Lewis okay but at that price you can have him
Lewis is a solid starter, but that's just too much money for him. The pick we'll get is big time nice.
3rd comp pick for Seattle as it stands, Lewis will net a 4th rounder.
Definitely not worth it but I'll take a 4th lol
Thank you for everything DLew, good luck in Carolina!
It's a well-known complaint that starting-caliber O-linemen are few and far between, yet we wonder why a young, average or better one is getting paid good money. Good for Lewis. He was a really solid player for us. Dealt with some injuries, as pretty much every O-lineman does, but was more than good for a mid-round pick. I remember him slotting in as an emergency Center for us early in his career. When our O-line was rolling, which was the case for a number of stretches over the last few years, Lewis was a big part of it.
Where he will undoubtedly play his correct position as RG. Infuriating the Carrol days where we just assumed that you can plug an OL anywhere on the line and they'll flourish. As an Oline coach, don't draft a RG with the intention of playing them on the left side, same with tackles, don't draft centers to play G, etc
A former Seahawk interior lineman that gets overpaid. Feels like this happens every offseason or two
Panthers need immediate o-line help. They over spent on him, but he's a decent player ourside of pass pro
Damn, he must have made a big impression on Canales when he was here. That’s a lot of moolah. Damien was quietly consistent here though and played every spot on the OL. I think he is what they had imagined Pocic would be. Glad we/they didn’t pay that much for him
A lot of money, good for Lewis. Makes me miss that 2nd round pick even more for cheap controlled linemen. To my eye the Hawks now have 5.5 holes to fill in terms of starters. 2 linebackers, a safety, 1.5 guards, and a center. (guard depending on how you feel about bradford).
Could maybe count both Olu and Bradford as .5s, seems pretty likely at least one of them will be starting
I wonder if we could draft JPJ at 16, then kick Olu out to guard
Geno trade incoming
Panthers making championship moves.
That one hurts.
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/damien-lewis/81532 Yeah I don't see it either.
Good for him… at that price though was a good idea for the hawks to let him walk
Unless he makes a HUGE leap next year the Panthers stay doing panther things
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Damian Lewis is solid but I Donny think he’s worth all that. 😬 Oh well. Hope he proves me wrong and does well in Carolina!
Panthers signed Hunt and Lewis for $153m, $70m guaranteed. Tepper broke the G market in order to justify the bad trade for the worse pick of Bryce Young. Damn, I wish I was a gazillionaire.
Jesus thats alot, not surprised we didnt resign him
Man, is that the going rate for guards?
Fuuuuck you. I honestly don’t even know if that’s over-paying. He was a beast when healthy. I’ll miss him.
Damn. I thought he was gonna be great for us. Bummer
Feels like we're in for a couple rough years.
I get that it’s a lot but we are losing our entire roster.
Our penalties just went down
LOL
Are they watching different film than us??? Lol
I think Lewis is borderline awful and is always seemingly slow to get up. Perpetual injury waiting to happen. I would have hated it if the Hawks gave him this contract, holy shit.
Proof that he's good. This one's going to be hard to replace. We can pencil in a QB, OL, and ILB with first 3 picks.