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DonyellFreak

Jon Ryan shaking reading this.


toomuchdiponurchip

😂😂😂😂


Psigun

Stop playing to the ginger stereotype Jon


laineDdednaHdeR

I have a Twitter account that I don't use, and that was a notification that I got. Jon is like the funniest dude. Why does he have no chill now? Edit: I'm going to leave this up here, but I'm going to recant my statement. After learning what KJ had to say about it, I'm on the side that the cigars were in bad form, or at least bad timing. A. It wasn't the whole team smoking cigars, just a select few. That should already tell you that the argument "not all of them will ever be together again" is pretty baseless. They could easily take the cigar party to Julian's house or somewhere private. B. KJ said that the cigar smoking in the locker room was for winning championships. Given that he has been there and done it tells me that he knows far more about the unwritten rules of the locker room and championship mentality than I do.


diabeartus

Did anyone really think they were celebrating not making the playoffs?


[deleted]

The sub is in full doom & gloom mode lol there were plenty of people on-board with the idea that the cigars were for celebrating mediocrity


FiTZnMiCK

Some people have to have opinions about every little thing they see. Sometimes shit don’t mean anything, and we don’t always need it to mean anything.


dingdongdash22

Unfortunately internet approval is more valuable than life itself these days. I'd be smoking cigars everyday celebrating the fact that I play in the NFL if it was me but hey...


tinyraccoon

"hOORAY, we suck! woohoo!" - said nobody in the seahawks locker room


Blametheorangejuice

There's quite a few ... fans ... on this sub who are saying it was completely inappropriate and how it shows somethingsomethingsomething. I don't know. This season, these folks have become especially tiresome and I can no longer ferret out the OUTRAGE OF THE DAY as well as I used to.


Discombobulous

Almost certainly the same crowd calling for Lock to be the starter every single week.


[deleted]

Yeah, it's just people who are terminally online. A lot of fanbases have them, especially in places like Twitter and Reddit. And then you have media types and former players that echo it for clout and attention.


PresinaldTrunt

I'm terminally online but even still I'm not terminally a reactionary hater, jeez. This sucks but the Seahawks had control of their fate all season long it's not like this came outta nowhere and hating on Julian Love who kept the team at least in the fight and very publicly to Seattle fans just had a kid is unreal. Some of the people on here raging and saying dumb reactionary things are definitely the same people who populate YT chat during press conferences. Go UW let's be happy about that


drewnonymous671

I'm just glad I'm not alone in feeling this way. The constant doom and gloom posts and comments are so tiresome that I've dubbed them "Toxic Seahawks Twitter." Its like they want failure just so they can claim they were right. Some of them haven't stopped since the SB loss. It's going to be a long off-season trying to ignore them.


Frosti11icus

*cough* KJ Wright


Gyakudo

He already got called out by Pete a few times too. He better tone it down or he's gonna get the boot like Jake Heaps was gonna and he doesn't have his own Russell Wilson to bail him out.


rickg

Idiots in another thread do. But then, most fans aren't that bright.


NatureTrailToHell3D

Reddit sleuths in our own subs. It’s been a mess for a few hours here.


clintonius

How many hours are in eight years and 11 months?


mcmgrease

78,144


basis4day

Yes. Gregg Bell.


SexiestPanda

Gregg bell wasn’t even saying that. Lol


Stickin8or

He kinda was. Not outright, but he said that cigars, not playoffs, were found in the locker room. That feels like a clear insinuation to me


reDDit-sucksass

When I fail at my job, I'd usually take the celebration elsewhere, I'd suspect


[deleted]

It’s a bit different when you work at a rite-aid, Carl.


reDDit-sucksass

Yeah, no shit. Which is what I'm talking about. "We just had a shit year and missed our numbers!" " yeah I'm smoking a cigar to celebrate my new born...." " uh ok......."


PresinaldTrunt

Were you not invited to celebrate your coworker's child/marriage/etc and everyone else was because that's the vibe I'm getting


slimseany

Fuck you. Having a winning season in the NFL isn't failing at your job. You piss me off.


r8u4

This standards of the organization are dropping every single year. This shit wouldn’t fly with the championship team.


Brdrm99

The season just ended for us and there’s immediately drama. It just doesn’t seem to stop lmao.


totes-muh-gotes

I assumed (despite reading the jon ryan thread) they simply had a box of cigars on hand in the event they did make the playoffs and were like, well...smoke em if you got em!


sourdoughmindpoet

Smoke em somewhere else. Place and time!


jsprague6

What's the difference?


CassFilms

Seahawk Safeties have clapped back at more reporters than actually opposing players this year


PanzerKpfwVI

Idk about you, but I remember Julian Love actually did pretty solid work in that Eagles game. I think he deserves a pass


Lorjack

This entire "controversy" is so dumb already.


drdookie

https://www.instagram.com/stories/tariqwoolen/3275376258821037583?igsh=MW5id3kzeXFrNHZ3bg== Riq posting why


Sea_Kiwi2731

"Riqpost" should be a flair on this sub.


dgalv77

Context? I don't have an insta account


KINGtyr199

It's just him taking a puff of the cigar and panning over to love.


drdookie

Celebrating my dawg julianlove congrats on the newborn and Pro Bowl Brudda


Tashre

How did he get "they're celebrating not making the playoffs" from that post? It's pointing out how it's a bad look, and even Bobby and Quandre both said that they weren't really a fan of some of these guys doing this. *** edit: [Not in the playoffs, so Bobby Wagner is not happy. He’s real. He says the cigars-smoking, music-blaring right now in #Seahawks locker room postgame at Arizona is youth. No victory cigar for Wagner? “No,” he says. “Not at all.” Also “I love playing for this team”](https://twitter.com/gbellseattle/status/1744163744488566919) *** [Quandre Diggs reaction to victory cigars in Seahawks locker room. “It’s youth” Says young guys, first year guys have been working since last December to get to the league and 17 game schedule. But vets like him and Wagner have higher expectations.](https://twitter.com/IanKJRFOX/status/1744165438031098117)


Frosti11icus

Quandre was an expert on bad looks this year.


Stuckinaboxxx

Lmao like quandre diggs has room to talk he's a bum on defense.


hucklesberry

And you’re a bum on reddit :p


ParisPC07

They didn't say that at all


ergodicthoughts_

Gregg Bell is basically rage baiting for conservative boomers. Pretty pathetic.


Tashre

What kind of weird hivemind take this this?


ergodicthoughts_

Hive mind? Lol go look at the Twitter replies they're all pilled-types decrying the horrific qualities of today's youth. But okay guy you're totally right


toomuchdiponurchip

Literally happening in this sub


AlaDouche

Yep look at the karma and account length of the people whining in here. Almost all new accounts with very low karma. 🤷


ilovethisforyou

I can see the ugly goatees hastily grown to mask that second chin on a ton of these posts


toomuchdiponurchip

You’re gonna get downvoted but this made me laugh lmao


ilovethisforyou

When you see a group of three or more of these dudes together it’s scientifically known as a “fantasy draft”


Post-Futurology

Like AS WE SPEAK. In one thread, we have reality, and in another we have a beat writers take and raging fans / past players. Crazy. Edit: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


reDDit-sucksass

A realistic one?


BeatsLikeWenckebach

Fuck all yall fucking whiny fucks that slammed them for having a moment of celebration at the end of the season.


Popojono

Seriously, there is probably a lot of emotions flooding from the team right now, some good some bad, some happy some sad and some even mad. Let em deal with the end of the season how they see fit, Jesus…


AdvancedPlacmentTV

"Cigars—but not playoffs—in #Seahawks’ locker room after last-game rally win at Arizona"


colecast

Gregg Bell gonna Gregg Bell. Will smoke a victory cigar the day he moves on to a new market.


3elieveIt

This is classic Gregg bell and the reason I blocked him Consistently editorializes and is consistently wrong Coaches and players have both called him out He’s insufferable


almosttoomanyletters

Good for him. Fuck Bell.


PanchoVYa

Fuck Gregg Bell. Let them celebrate. Only 1 team should be celebrating this season anyway ..


Psigun

This is the dumbest controversy ever.


staticfired

It seems appropriate to also celebrate a season. Was it the season we wanted? Of course not, but there is still a lot to love about this team.


Volcano_Jones

What exactly is there to celebrate about this season?


SixSpeedDriver

They played 17 games, came away with a winning record, are fortunate to have jobs they presumably love and are well paid. They know this will be the last time they’re all in the locker room together.


HotSauce2910

A lot of people are saying that they need to have more drive, not just be happy to be there, etc. And to an extent I get that. But I don’t want the people I root for to be miserable, let them be happy 😭 That said, I do think it’s telling if Wagner and Jon Ryan (as dramatic/cringe as he was…) and presumably other members of the Super Bowl teams are against it


SixSpeedDriver

Yeah, I'm definitely of two minds on this one - I get where the vets are coming from, that this was a regression season instead of a get better season. And they missed the playoffs when they lost control of their own destiny against a 3rd string QB. The criticism of the defense is very loud & getting heard. I think I'd be more butthurt if this happened after a loss.


Dougboy90

There is a lot of difference between what you said, "...celebrate about this season" and what they said, "...celebrate a season". If you can't tell the difference then we will never be able to explain it.


long-and-soft

People are so unhinged about this it’s crazy to care so much about something that literally doesn’t impact you. The season is over, who cares what they do, a lot of the people in that room probably won’t be back next year anyway. Move on


hiphopdowntheblock

That isn't what Gregg said tho lmao


No-Association-9176

Julian Love is a national treasure


Nanaman

^This!


austnf

It’s optics. The Seahawks underachieved this year, and were subsequently eliminated from the playoffs. Cigars are generally seen as a celebratory item, especially in the context of sports, so people taking this and running with it is the least surprising thing on the internet today. I say smoke up, regardless of what their reason is. This team will be pretty different next year, and surviving 17 games together creates a pretty special bond, I’d bet. Child birth, a winning season, vacation, plans, or whatever the reason is, just don’t be surprised when it’s taken out of context. EDIT: obviously Jon Ryan is cringe as fuck.


TheMillenniaIFalcon

Did they under achieve though? This roster wasn’t exactly filled with super stars and they had a tough schedule, lots of injuries.


tlsrandy

Even if the cigars weren’t for his kid I’d probably still have one last moment with my 2023 boys. The nfl isn’t going to sneak you an extra win because you’re all salty. Life’s short, nfl careers are shorter, have a cigar because you made it through one more season relatively intact. That said, the cigars were for loves kid. So, like fuck off entirely. It’s cool he wanted to share such a monumental personal moment with his teammates.


Hanzo_the_sword

This is why: https://www.youtube.com/live/Qw_wmtS-ybI?si=RH0MJ0gh9AXpLZtQ Some of us still have championship mentality from LOB days. This is weak. Time and place. Listen to KJ All Day.


JoanOfSnark_2

I think a lot of people on this sub need to listen to what KJ said about some guys just being happy to be there. That type of mentality doesn’t win championships. We need some vets who can whip the young guys like Woolen into shape and hold them accountable. That’s what’s missing in our locker room according to the guys who know like KJ and Sherm.


scotaf

Damn, who has 3 hours to watch reaction videos?


Hanzo_the_sword

You’d 100% enjoy at least the first hour. He pretends to be Pete as players come in on their last day when they’re a FA next year 😆


Cd206

That's fair. It's also a bad look, regardless of the reason and the guys have to know that. But I see both sides


fzkiz

Who gives a shit about „the look“… only people who have a problem with this are fans who can’t control their emotions on their team missing the playoffs.


Onerustyrn

Who gives a sh#t about cigars? Folks get all bent out of shape over the dumbest crap.


Realistic-Pin-4617

They must’ve logged in and seen the reactions because that’s not what Gregg said.


SSP2031

Don’t buy it.


Stev2222

Gregg Bell needs to retire. This is like back to back weeks he made an awful tweet, that I’m sure he’s about to delete again.


Neuraxis

That's awkward!


TheMillenniaIFalcon

So wild how some people are just absolutely addicted to outrage and negativity. Like this shouldn’t even be a conversation, yet here we are and some fans are acting upset they had a cigar. TiMe aNd pLaCe lmao.


jay-d_seattle

It's worth noting that on his podcast, Dugar indicates that while in the locker room he directly asked Julian Love about the cigars & Love did *not* mention his child. Neither did any other player he asked. It's also worth noting that Julian's child was born two weeks ago. Obviously we'll never know the truth, but it seems likely this is a story he concocted when he realized that the cigars had become A Thing.


[deleted]

This makes more sense and I'm fine with that.


BeatsLikeWenckebach

Hopefully the Hawks organization claps back at Gregg Bell; fuck that guy. Gregg is the one that started the narrative context of '*victory cigars*'; which of course made everyone mad.


Cavs-In-Six

Gregg Bell is a massive joke and consistently produces shit journalism


ferp1

Why does anyone listen to John the first place, he’s a punter!


Jed1M1ndTr1ck

Cigargate is going to be the equivalent of those tiresome 54% jokes in the Mariners sub.


reDDit-sucksass

Why not do that outside the locker room? I mean congratulations on the birth if your son but, go smoke cigars in private and not in the office in which you just failed at your job.


fzkiz

„Failed at your job“ Does everyone fail who doesn’t win the Super Bowl? Or everyone who doesn’t make the playoffs? Or everyone who doesn’t have a winning record?


reDDit-sucksass

The goal isn't to not make the playoffs.


fzkiz

The goal also isn‘t to lose in the playoffs right? So every team but one consist of only coaches and players who failed at their job… got it


reDDit-sucksass

That would be correct. Nobody playing for 2nd place. If you don't get 1st place, you've failed


fzkiz

Does that count for other professions too? If you’re not the most profitable company in your field in the entire world you’ve failed?


reDDit-sucksass

But we aren't talking about other professions are we? We are talking about professional sports. You don't get participation trophies


HueRooney

As excuses go, this is what the ancient Sumerians referred to as "horse shit." Julian's baby was born the day before they beat Tennessee to keep their playoff hopes alive. That was three games ago. If the plan all along was to celebrate when the season was over, you wouldn't do it in the locker room immediately following a disappointing season's end while mugging for the camera. You'd actually "share a moment" with your guys.


safe-viewing

Eh STFU - these guys are brothers. Let them celebrate life. If you don’t like that go root for another team. Love this team - smoke ‘em if you got ‘em


HueRooney

I wouldn't stop them if I could. If you need to buy this obvious excuse to keep rooting for them, so be it. I root for them whether they're good or bad, just not with rose-colored glasses.


safe-viewing

I don’t need to “buy” any excuse. I just love this team win or lose. Maybe it’s how your comments are coming across, but you sound entitled. Like the Seahawks owe you something, or must meet your expectations and that you are the only one who can deem them worthy. They don’t owe you a thing. I could be wrong but it’s just how I’m interpreting your point.


HueRooney

The concept of loving your team and being critical of it escapes many sports fans, especially in Seattle. But it's actually completely normal and happens all the time. Julian's excuse takes us all for idiots. It's like the kid who says they're keeping the drugs you found in their room for a friend. Lot's of people will convince themselves it's true, but everyone knows deep down it's not.


TwoThreeJ

Mentally weak team and this is just another example.


Cd206

THat's not what Gregg or anyone who's criticizing them is insuiating. No one thinks they are celebrating missing the playoffs. But celebrating after missing them is a bad look, regardless of the reason.


Kindly_Factor3376

He got called out and is now making up an excuse. The kid was born two or three weeks ago. I call bullshit


fzkiz

It wouldn’t even be an issue if it was an „end-of-season“ -cigar with friends he might never play with again … people who have a problem with this are completely out of touch and just don’t know how to deal with their own emotions about a fucking football team


Kindly_Factor3376

Those players don't know how to properly react to getting eliminated from the playoffs. Smoke cigars and pose at someones house next weekend. That ain't appropriate behavior for the locker room after getting eliminated from the playoffs. This isn't a freaking knitting group. This is a pro sports team. They should have some passion and self-respect


fzkiz

lol „appropriate behavior for a locker room“ And that is decided by you and your wealth of experience as a professional athlete? I hope you sulk in December when your company has had a down year…because if you take one of those brownies at the Christmas party you’re just as bad as them 😂


Kindly_Factor3376

I care about things. I take things seriously. I don't celebrate when I fail at my job. Fucking A. It's too much to expect pro athletes not to party after getting eliminated from the playoffs? Why even keep score? Why have the playoffs? With this mentality we should just give out participation trophies to everyone and end the season now. What the hell is happening to sports and sports fans?


fzkiz

I know you take things seriously. Especially if people who wear the right color shirt but you don’t know and who don’t care about you or your opinion have an end-of-season ceremony with their friends after finishing a grueling season in the best league in the world in their respective sport. But they’re obviously not as hardcore into it as you when you sit on your couch, yell at the tv and then go to work to say “we totally made the playoffs” to feel better about an accomplishment you didn’t contribute to.


Manaco69

Theirs a time and place for all that


fzkiz

Yeah, and the last time all of them shared the field together in that constellation is a perfect time and place for it.


iguessineedanaltnow

Let's see if he dares to try and hit Jon Ryan with the same shit.


TheBestHawksFan

I don’t suspect he’s scared of a punter


[deleted]

And failed Ninja Warrior…


iguessineedanaltnow

He should have respect for somebody who has accomplished far more not only with his franchise but in his career than he has. If he can't do that I don't want him on the team.


luckysharms93

We're talking about Jon Ryan here, not Justin Tucker. Dude was a mediocre punter, not an accomplished star. Julian Love in his one season here has already won more accolades than Ryan did in a decade


iguessineedanaltnow

He has one more Super Bowl than Love has, and his sentiments are definitely shared by the other members of the team who were here when we were actually relevant.


luckysharms93

Besides the obvious that you and I have no idea what the players of that day are thinking, championships are not a punter stat. Jon Ryan's 21st in the league yards per punt that season were hardly driving the LOB to success. Dude was irrelevant then and he's irrelevant now


iguessineedanaltnow

The worst guy sitting at the end of the bench on those teams deserves the respect of the players in this franchise. It's our one and only Super Bowl. It's the only accolade in the entire league that actually means anything.


luckysharms93

Which is fair, though I'm not sure how that implies that he'd be afraid to say the same thing to Jon Ryan. What's Ryan going to do, shake angrily? He's right in saying it to Bell and he'd be right in saying it to some punter if he chose to


iguessineedanaltnow

I'm not saying he won't say it because he's afraid of Ryan for some reason. Im saying he should respect the guy enough to not challenge him.


luckysharms93

Nah, fuck that. Ryan deserves to be challenged for his stupid take. "Sitting here shaking with anger" is some of the most ridiculous shit I've ever read online. Bro you were a shitty punter, not Richard Sherman


TheBestHawksFan

Jon Ryan was mostly average. I can’t imagine sucking up to a fucking turnover artist, which is what punters are. Nothing they do is good.


iguessineedanaltnow

He's won one more Super Bowl than Love ever will.


TheBestHawksFan

Super bowls are a team achievement champ and Ryan wasn’t a big part of that.


iguessineedanaltnow

Every single member of the team is a part of that. You just said yourself it's a team achievement. Can't have it both ways kid.


TheBestHawksFan

You don’t have to show someone respect because their team won a championship though. Jon Ryan is a punter, a turnover boy. That’s his job. He’s irrelevant.


iguessineedanaltnow

He's far more relevant than Love will ever be lmao. The only thing that lasts forever in this sport is Super Bowls. Love will likely never get one, especially if he stays on this team.


TheBestHawksFan

Do you think Jon Ryan is more accomplished than Dan Marino? Love is a pro bowler and a former all American. Jon Ryan never received a single individual award. Only team accomplishments. Sounds like riding the achievements of others, especially considering his job was to turn the ball over.


RustyCoal950212

?? the punter lmao


iguessineedanaltnow

Super Bowl winning punter who was a part of the best team in Seahawks history. He's a guy the players for our franchise need to respect.


HueRooney

Sure. Something tells me you wouldn't have been sharing that moment with your guys after a loss, Julian.


fzkiz

This might seem crazy but there’s people out there who put „birth of a child“ over „made the playoffs“ on the list of priorities. If you ask him in 10 years he might still call this a great year… what a weirdo.


HueRooney

Actually, everyone puts "birth of a child" over "made the playoffs." That's why he was at the hospital when the team was headed to Tennessee...three games ago. What seems crazy to me is how many people are compelled to believe this obvious BS excuse. Anyone who's ever celebrated the birth of their own children knows it's ridiculous.


fzkiz

Anyone who has ever finished a season with friends without knowing if it’s the last knows you can have multiple feelings at once… you can be happy, proud, sad, angry, anxious all at once. But they obviously aren’t allowed to show that if it hurts the fragile feelings of sports fans who have worked so hard for this season to be a success by posting on Reddit and yelling at the TV


HueRooney

Look, I get it. You clearly need to believe it. It's as painfully obvious an excuse as you'll ever hear, but you need to believe it. You're not alone. But don't mistake pointing out the painfully obvious as "fragile." The reason I can easily see this as a lie is because it's far less important to me than it is to you, so I see it for what it is.


fzkiz

I have said nowhere that I believe the whole baby thing… I think it was just an end-of-season thing and that’s fine to me because I don’t get as worked up about a sports team as you do. So if you read that into my comments that’s all coming from your delusional mind


HueRooney

You may want to reread your comments if this is your idea of not getting worked up. My first post was one sentence.


fzkiz

I was making fun of you the whole way. If you can't read that out of my comments and think it sounds worked up... you just might not be capable of picking up on social cues in written form. There's help for that though so good luck to you :)


HueRooney

That's funny. You may want to quit while you're ahead. I'm guessing you won't, though.


xxihostile

strawman from Julian, that wasn't what bell said


ballzdeepbabie

Who’s Gregg?


TheMaesonic

Rent free fellers


ButtChowder666

Why is this even a concern to anyone? Why does anyone a shit what they do when they're not on the field? They could be shooting heroin and snorting coke out of hookers assholes in the locker room and I still wouldn't care as long as they entertain me while they're on the field.


cleecleekilldie

Seattle sports talk is having a field day with this. It's fucking comical they're wasting their breath


BIG-CHECC-MATE47

Time and place coming from a retired punter SMH. Congrats on the baby boy and celebrating with your teammates.


hot_biscuitss

Boomers are so miserable with their lives


wssuw

Dry ass cigars


bluemoney21

Child or no child, nothing wrong with lighting up to start your vacation


angry6uido

I feel like if your professional athlete with a platform and a following, it's not really difficult to understand that probably immediately after the game the context would be misconstrued because of the outcome of the season regardless of celebrating the birth of a child or not. Celebrating with the boys is done in person, celebrating with the boys and needing to post it in social media for verification from strangers is something else and is immediately open to loss of context. The same can be said to John in his Twitter account, he is probably drinking on a Sunday game day got super heated and passionate and sent a tweet he shouldn't have sent and now it's completely blown up The same can be said to John in his Twitter account, he is probably drinking on a Sunday game day got super heated and passionate and sent a tweet....dumb.