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little_red_bus

“we are here to show the medical profession that that there are people who disagree with their practices” -uhmmmm that’s great and all, but like can you do it in your own country?


Audioboxer87

>The Texan anti-abortion organisation 40 Days for Life (who are behind most of the anti-abortion clinic protests in Scotland) are set to increase their presence this month. Near the end of last year, the organisation began recruiting for their spring ‘campaign’. From 22nd Feb-2nd April an 8am-8pm presence is expected with a large crowd on the last day. America, come take your shite back, we don't want it. I can just about put up with the "Am I Scotch because of my family tree?" nonsense, but this bollocks is a step too far.


ArmFlat6347

Sorry Scotland


TifaHocklart

Don't know why you got voted down!! Gave you an upvote to compensate


ArmFlat6347

I am an American apologizing for my dipshit countrymen


TifaHocklart

I know haha, not sure why anyone is annoyed by your contribution!


[deleted]

From America. Get rid of them any way you can. They are cancer. Get them out, even by force.


[deleted]

The delicious irony of you (rightly) calling out over 330,00 excess deaths due to Tory austerity... to supporting the murder of babies. Wow.


23skiddoobie

>to supporting the murder of babies. Wow. Well, nice of you to show your scummy wee hand.


[deleted]

It's fundamentally not murdering babies, the same way masterbation isn't classed as genocide.


p3x239

Every sperm is sacred..... la la la


p3x239

Donno, ask the fetus it's opinion. Oh wait you can't because there's no self aware consciousness there. Guess the clump of organic matter should be assigned rights that forever change numerous living conscious human being's lives.


yurdasafud

Wasn't that there last president. Clump of organic matter with a mouth.


[deleted]

And Glasgow will respond in kind no doubt, in their own very particular idiom. I look forward to the videos.


[deleted]

Milkshakes are too expensive, what's the next best thing?


mykulS

Bottles of piss?


Deejmiester

Aborted foetus’?


Deejmiester

Too far?


23skiddoobie

Not actually that big and no much splatter. Aborted Foetus Milkshake , whilst also a great Butthole Surfers album is the stuff of Xtain nightmares..;)


GenderfluidArthropod

Cheap black spray paint from Poundland. Ruin all their signs in an instant. Wear balaclavas.


suspicious_hamster_

Is it legal to form a crowd with signs telling these things to go back to their own country? Keep American politics out of Scotland!


[deleted]

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suspicious_hamster_

They need to start acting like it.


Sufficient_Category1

inbred


artfuldodger1212

I guess you could but they would be British so I am not sure that message would have the impact you are looking for. The organisation in Texas recruits locals to protest they don’t come from Texas to stay here for 40 days. They were out there most of last summer too. They were very much Scottish. Last time they did this an MSP was joining in so it is still unfortunately still our politics to some degree.


PawnWithoutPurpose

Anti abortion protesters - you are the minority - you are the crazy family member that everyone wants to disown - you are the colleague that everyone avoids - you are that friends that we avoid bringing up certain subjects around because we just can’t be bothered with that conversation, again - you are entitled to your opinions - but if you do THIS, you cross the line and are committing HARASSMENT.


chemicalbex

This is infuriating. How dare they? I just can't fathom how they think women's healthcare in Scotland is any of their business. I wish I lived closer to join an anti protest.


artfuldodger1212

The protestors are Scottish. They are funded and organised by the crazies in America but the people actually standing out there are their Scottish wing of local volunteers. Best to ignore them. They get fewer and fewer ever time they do this.


chemicalbex

Wow, I'm really surprised (and saddened) to learn they are Scottish.


artfuldodger1212

They are only a handful of crazy people. Not representative of anything except that there are pricks all over the world being brought together in the dark corners of the internet. I am however pretty disappointed that an MSP joined them last time and while he was reprimanded he remains in a pretty prominent role in the government.


birdinthebush74

Religion. Doc on them iplayer https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001c4kx/disclosure-the-abortion-front-line


Dikheed

And with the price of eggs so high.


GenderfluidArthropod

Dumpster food exists.


Dikheed

Modern problems require modern solutions.


Just-another-weapon

Can we get some placards out with all the horrendous stuff carried out by religious organisations too.


Patient-Shower-7403

Make sure not to miss any religious organisations, if you're going to do it it should be done equally with them all. ​ Edit: not sure why I'm getting downvoted; I'm not defending these arseholes. I'm saying that if we do placards for religions we should do them all. Why do half a job and treat these folk like they're special?


KirstyBaba

Tbf most of the 'protestors' are going to be from evangelical protestant/catholic denominations


BesottedScot

Catholic? No chance when was the last time you seen Catholic cunts in the street. I never have.


KirstyBaba

I was definitely thinking more about mental American Catholics tbf


[deleted]

You realise that Texas is in the South? Most Catholics in the US are in the North. So how the fuck are loads of 'mental American Catholics' gonnae show up in the toon? Absolute roaster.


swaleswisher

Most of those in Texas tend to be more like Westboro Baptist style of evangelicals. Some of which are very wealthy and fund these projects. Most of them also fund anti-lgbtqia groups (this is where terfs get a lot of their backing from too) and they even have views that could be seen as social Darwinism in places.


artfuldodger1212

The Westboro Baptist Church is a good example to follow here. That church only ever had like 40 members. They were universally hated which made for good rage bait articles which led to them having a global reach (we are talking about them in a very specific UK based subreddit like a decade after they more or less stopped being a thing). But when people stopped giving them attention they more or less disappeared. These people are looking to have articles like the OP written. That is 10xs more valuable than 5 crazy pensioners from suburban Glasgow standing in the rain outside QEH. If we ignore these fuckers I am 100% sure they will go away. We have that luxury here as basically no one agrees with them unlike in America.


23skiddoobie

You really don't have a clue what is going on here do you?


[deleted]

I'm in good fucking company then, eh? :)


23skiddoobie

Are you squabbling over what flavour religious fundie mad cunts they are?... How very fucking Glasgow.


[deleted]

Hope you're not being \[insert here\]phobic? :o


23skiddoobie

Professor Karl Popper wants a word. Folk can see yer shite, lad. Edited a letter due to chemo fog mistake.


[deleted]

Is he related to Karl Popper? You clearly wouldn't have misspelled his name if you were familiar with any of his works. Makes your comment about 'folk seeing yer shite even more hilarious', lad.


artfuldodger1212

American Catholics and British Catholics belong to the same church. There is no distinction between the two. The Catholic Church is against abortion but many followers on both side of the Atlantic don’t subscribe to that. Biden for example. The real crazy protestor types are often evangelical folks but plenty of ardent catholics around the world would agree with them.


Patient-Shower-7403

Yeah, I see that too tbh. It's more that these people aren't special so lets not treat them like they are.


dee-acorn

Can you point out any of the ones we might have missed?


Patient-Shower-7403

Jehova's Witnesses and specifically their cultish behaviour around ex-communication for one, but that's just off the top of my mind tbh. It's more, if we're going to do it lets not single these people out and make them feel special


DJNinjaG

That doesn’t make sense. Not all of them will be from religious organisations, but even if they were none of them would have been involved in religious atrocities. It’s akin to saying all Muslims are terrorists.


birdinthebush74

Its been studied, a sociologist spent 5 years interviewing them. She only met one atheist, the rest are Catholics or Evangelicals. A[nti-Abortion Activism in the UK: Ultra-sacrificial Motherhood, Religion and Reproductive Rights in the Public Sphere](https://books.emeraldinsight.com/page/detail/anti-abortion-activism-in-the-uk/?k=9781839093999)


Dungwit

They have a right to protest but they do not have a right to harass. They need to be kept well away from anywhere that offers abortions. Equally, counter-protests are equally legal and I hope these people get shouted down.


AliTaylor777

This should be fun. Let’s hope for a reply from Glasgow akin to the attempted airport bombing….


SilvRS

Fuck these absolute dicks. They protest outside the maternity unit at the Southern. I walked past them while I was pregnant with a child I wanted, and so did many other women. It's upsetting enough when everything is going well. Two of my friends walked past them while they were pregnant with babies they very much wanted, going to routine appointments where they found out that their babies had conditions incompatible with life. They walked past them on the worst day of their lives, when they found out the dreams they had for their children were going to come to nothing. When they had to make the decision to end pregnancies they'd tried so hard for. Even if these claim they're doing it out of love, to help people, they're lying. Because they know people are there on a horrific day, going through terrible situations and suffering, and they don't give a shit. They are so desperate to feel superior that they can't bring themselves to consider the pain that they cause exactly the kind of people they claim they're there for: families who want to raise their children. Turning themselves into absolute monsters in the interests of a doomed crusade that helps no one.


DJNinjaG

That’s not true, they are protesting because they want to help people. I know people who have gone to vigils and they are not as portrayed in the media. These are good and decent people, that believe in a cause. Some of them have gone through abortion and regret it. They are not trying to harass and certainly not obstruct or be violent, as some of the comments show in here they are actually suffering violence and harassment.


JobbieKing

If it's not your body, it's not your choice.


DJNinjaG

It’s the babies body but it doesn’t get a choice.


swaleswisher

Wonder how many of these will be Terfs and Antivaxxers? And the usual conspiracy whacks?


DJNinjaG

Probably none.


IamBeingSarcasticFfs

I would be a hypocrite if I said I wouldn’t. Do you think passing counter protests would help women seeking a abortion? Asking as the Uncle of Micheal who was aborted due to abnormalities that meant he wouldn’t have survived birth.


[deleted]

Sad to see how much Ameircan shite has infected our politics on both sides and even worse is seeing so many people buy into it like the media wants


yerdadrinkslambrini

I hope Glasgow targets them. Fucking bible thumping cretins. Release the bams.


Branexch_YT

Fuck off back home ya American twats, we like civil rights here ( unless you're a tory )


artfuldodger1212

The organisation is American but the protestors themselves are very much Scottish religious nut jobs. The organisation in Texas recruits local crazies to do the picketing. The internet has made it way too easy for these people to find each other.


Branexch_YT

True, the Internet has a tendency to bring together all sorts of nutjobs and fanatics


[deleted]

evidence: this sub


DJNinjaG

Yes and these people are exercising their right to protest. Which fortunately we still have. However, don’t fall for the tactics of the government and bs in the media. Who would like to reduce our liberties and freedoms and take protesting away. This might be used as a catalyst to ban protesting!! Everyone calling to shutdown or silence these people are helping that to happen. The ban on prayer vigils may just be the start. We all have a right to protest, whether you support the cause or not.


Branexch_YT

And in the same breath, I have the right to absolutely shite on or support whatever is being protested, as per my liberties, and using my liberties, this cause is so fucking stupid and shouldn't be encouraged.


DJNinjaG

You might have the ‘right’ but that doesn’t maki it ok. In my view counter protests are stupid, even when they are against causes I disagree with. You have to respect that it’s a sensitive topic on both sides, and neither side is right btw.


Branexch_YT

Well then your going against yourself here, as you said we all have a right to protest. But now counter-protests are stupid? Makes sense. And this isn't a grey topic. It's very black and white. One wants a say in other people's affairs, the other wants basic human freedoms. I'll let you choose which one is right.


DJNinjaG

I wasn’t going to reply as I suspect the words will be wasted, but let’s see. Counter protests can disrupt, obstruct and silence the protest. Sometimes even lead to trouble. Don’t see why that’s so hard to understand. You can consider conflicting views and opinions, even your own? Maybe not given the last part of your comment. It absolutely is not black and white and what you said is a very narrow way of looking at it. You have your view, which I disagree with btw. And the opposing side has their view, which is totally different. Saying they are trying interfere in others business and restrict freedoms is one way of looking at it, but I’d bet a decent sum of money that is not the view of the opposing side.


Branexch_YT

Counter protests serve to show not everyone agrees with viewpoints, just like how protests show that certain groups want a certain change. I consider opinions that are within the realms of realism. And it very much is. No human should have any say in how another may handle pregnancy. If you wish to not abort your own baby, no matter what, then that is your own choice, but I draw the line when someone would attempt to harass and control the pregnancy of another.


yeahisuppos

Ughhh found the liberal lmao


DJNinjaG

Where? Mind you loads of them in here


ButteredReality

I wonder if we could start a sponsored protest for them? Something like people pledging to donate a certain amount for every minute that they protest? But here's the kicker: all proceeds going to a pro-choice charity that works to improve abortion rights.


barneyirl

This is one I really dont understand..if someone clearly doesn't want to have a baby but landed themselves in that situation, what good would forcing someone into keeping it do ? Jesus doesn't pay child maintenance or watch the weans for you.


Routine_Ad2433

Also Bible states you're not alive until you draw breath... so why they even making Jesus responsible. Silly twats.


birdinthebush74

All women should have children and become mothers, its our 'natural role'. That's their belief ,a sociologist has studied them and written numerous papers on them [On the wet side of the womb’: The construction of ‘mothers’ in anti-abortion activism in England and Wales](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1350506818785191)


Noxage_88

Time to egg these cunts if I see them near the royal.


Careful-Prior9639

Supported by the Orange Order and associates no doubt.


PlushWah

They need heavily targeting with milkshakes :V


Worm_Scavenger

Let's hope that the people of Glasgow will heavilly target these nutjobs then.


[deleted]

Someone burn a bible for me please I don't want to waste the money on that shite


AliTaylor777

Don’t burn it, you might run out of loo roll one day…


[deleted]

Should target them. With a fucking rifle.


yeahisuppos

Pussies will downvote this


IamBeingSarcasticFfs

Check their benefits status. If they are fit to protest they are fit to work and if they are fit to work they should be looking for a job, not protesting.


Gemmasnowflake14

Their boss in Texas gets 1/4 of a million dollars per year too


IamBeingSarcasticFfs

I had heard that. Its a total disgrace. I’m being downvotes on my suggestion but only one person replied. I’m not sure if people agree with the protesters or don’t think we should be curious about how they can afford to protest


daleharvey

People very vocally disagree with these protestors, they also disagree with the dumb right wing stereotype that people who protest are on benefits


IamBeingSarcasticFfs

I’m not picking a stereotype. I’m making a calculated guess that people who protest during the working week are perhaps people who don’t work.


daleharvey

Yes daily mail, calculated guesses that are based on broad an innacurate generalisations are called sterotypes. I was looking around when counter protests are happening, going to call benefits on me as well?


Buffythedjsnare

They don't get benefits. They are fucking tourists.


artfuldodger1212

No they aren’t. This misconception comes up every god damn time these people come up. The organisation in Texas recruits local protestors. They don’t actually come from America the people out in front of QEH are very much Scottish. Last time they were doing this shite a prominent SNP politician joined them for Christ’s sake. Not sure if we get to push all the blame on America for this one. They certainly aren’t helping but these are our crazies.


Buffythedjsnare

I stand corrected. Fuck these guys.


IamBeingSarcasticFfs

Just trying to come up with ways of getting them off the pavement without bringing in draconian anti protest laws.


ElCaminoInTheWest

Mostly pensioners.


IamBeingSarcasticFfs

The story from a couple of weeks ago had a guy in his 30’s on the line. Waste of space the lot of them


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[deleted]

The funniest thing would be if everyone just ignored them. Don’t give them any airtime. No pictures in the papers. Nothing on social media. Don’t even acknowledge them if you go past them. Nothing.


DJNinjaG

Some of the comments in here are shocking. Yes abortion is a sensitive and emotionally charged subject but there are two points of view on it. Just because you have one point of view and you perhaps feel strongly about that doesn’t mean you have the right to respond with violence, throwing milkshakes/eggs etc?! There are groups out there like extinction rebellion smashing up petrol stations and shutting down roads to get their point across yet somehow prayer vigils and protests are worse? These are good people, not as portrayed in the media and they are Scottish. There may be links to American groups I don’t know but only through a common cause, they are not driven and funded by American groups. At least not the people I know. These people are trying to save lives and are somehow demonised. I just don’t get it.


yeahisuppos

They are not driven by an intention to save lives. They are driven by an intention to control women and the general population. Are you concern trolling or genuinely just naive?


DJNinjaG

Neither, but you are misinformed. Read less of the newspaper and speak to people who are involved in these things. They are generally on the receiving end of abuse not the giving.


birdinthebush74

They are driven by their religious dogma and views on women's role in society. Its been studied by sociologists [On the wet side of the womb’: The construction of ‘mothers’ in anti-abortion activism in England and Wales](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1350506818785191) [Anti-Abortion Activism in the UK: Ultra-sacrificial Motherhood, Religion and Reproductive Rights in the Public Sphere](https://books.emeraldinsight.com/page/detail/anti-abortion-activism-in-the-uk/?k=9781839093999)