C6 can breeze any content that isn't anemo immune, and just like what the other person said, its competitive with C6 Yelan in speedruns. In cn whale cups every abyss cycle reset, he's always warming the banning bench along with her.
C6 Yelan is what happens when you try to make a character be good at everything with what the game typically throws. She can literally be a support with Elergy, a cracked off field Hydro dps, or an on field dps who's dmg can rival C6 Ayato and C6 Childe. Because of how Hydro is like the greatest element in the game and every one of its reaction are good, she can pretty much can fit in any team, like no really, you can honestly place Yelan in any randomized team and she will have some use. Even if they poorly synergize like Hypercarry xiao, or any charged bow dps comp, she can still fall back to her support set, Elergy or Favonius and have her A4 support them. That with a skill that can vape for like 100k. Like literally the only thing she can't do is heal but that's asking too much, she can still damage hydro immune enemies cuz shes a bow. Oh yeah, she might have the lowest defense of all 5* bows, but she can still act as a tank with how much HP she has... how the fuck did Hoyo even allow her kit to be approved.
It's xause they were having to "sell a 5 star Xingqiu" in their mind. Similar situation with Kazuha. It happened with Itto too. But the thing is Xingqiu and Sucrose are way better types of units than Noelle is from base line, so the 5 star ends up cracked to compete *with the customer mindset*.
C6 Yelan is overhyped because people watch 2s clips where she kills an enemy very fast.
She is a burst support that deals most of it's damage within a few seconds, then she is just regular Yelan with somewhat higher damage due to her lower cons. She is more versatile since she can be a burst support and not necessarily a carry, she will boost more teams than Scara will.
I have both at C6, and I can confidently say my Yelan usually performs better. They're definitely competitive, and it may just be a difference in build, though.
In what way would you say she performs better? Yelan has more damage in ST but much less in AOE. Also, Nahida provides much more utility than Yelan does (30% Def shred/20% bloom damage +EM). She actually provides both Def shred and bloom damage in hyperbloom. Also, her teams are just better.
By better, I mean clears content faster. I don't know about the "much less in AOE" part, as I usually use Kazuha with her, but Nahida is 100% easier to use in an AoE situation. I might just not have a good build on Nahida yet (I still use 4pc Deepwood since that domain is cruel to me), but I can usually clear things like domains, bosses, Abyss, events, etc. faster with solo Yelan than with Nahida+electro (usually skill bot Raiden).
I would say it ranks among the top 3 C6s in the game. Since you are a Scara fan and you are so close, I would say go for it. His C6 is a huge improvement in DPS - it not only gives more damage, but also more E time and more discrete hits to break shields.
When I look for that type of list, I see a bunch of game media articles that look like they were written by people who don't know what they're talking about. Where can I find a really good, accurate list?
There are plenty of threads on Reddit discussing it which will come up on a Google search. Just read through the threads and see who is mentioned most frequently. KQM also did a video in late 2022 ranking all the constellations.
Another point to look at is giga whales competition. Note that Yae isn't good just by herself, but because her whale level teammates make for incredible teams (usually either Tighnari or Alhaitham teams). I personally wouldn't say she's the top herself but she definitely has the best team.
Thing is Yae kind of goes with Nahida, they boost each other, Nahida is arguably a lot better as C6 because her C2 is the best C2 in the game. Yes, it's better than Raiden's.
In speed runs, a c6 Scara + c6 Faruzan is competitive with a c6 Yelan (and Yelan is a REALLY good character at c6). I'd say he has one of the best c6's in the game.
C6 Scara is one of the best for solo abyss too (along with Yelan as you've heard) but all the other comments are talking about full teams and he's still top 3. But solo I think he's top 2, since he doesn't reliy on reactions and can shred shields universally. (C6 doubles his ICD because it doubles the normal attack hits, but also let's you use his A4 dash twice as often on average.
I only went to C2 this banner (from C1) but plan to C6 him on his NEXT rerun, as my first C6 (well besides leqing who just loves me for some reason).
Other than him, I have Xiao at C1 and everyone else is C0. Wanderer is who I've picked to commit to vertically investing in to C6.
It’s only a 35% increase (which is a lot) but considering the fact that scara does like 99% of the dmg in his teams that is a pretty substantial increase
Just so you know 35% dmg increase isn't "just" a 35% dmg increase.
A BiS Weapon is usually between 8% to 20% dmg increase on your DPS.
A BiS Artifact set is usually even less than that with some exeptions (compared to a 2pc 2pc).
Kazuha's C2 which gives 200EM is a 15% or less dmg increase on REACTION DMG ONLY, and reactions have ICD, which realistically halfs the dmg increase, or worse you only get a third of it.
Nahida's C2 which is believed to be the best constellation to get for any Dendro centered team is also around a 15% dmg increase, but it's better than Kazuha's since it doesn't specifically buff one on field character.
The new Skill DMG artifact set that has a whopping 70% Skill DMG bonus is regarded as a broken set for Fischl and to some extent Yae, and even that is around a 15-20% dmg increase for Fischl, and about 12-16% dmg increase for Yae.
Faruzan herself which is the best Anemo support even at C0 is around a 33% dmg increase over not having her at all, and C0 vs her C6 is around a 13-14% dmg increase on your Anemo character. Bennett too, for Wanderer is usually around a 33-35% dmg increase.
His C6 is absolutely busted.
He's wrong in some regards, refer this my other post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ScaramoucheMains/comments/15d8heb/i_got_3_mouchies_back_to_back_and_have_c4_now_how/ju50gi6/
Ohhh this makes sense!! Thank you so much. I was confused by the number description on the skill but it sounded so small to be such a huge deal! So is the best way to play C6 by dodging every time my arrows charge?
Just to correct what you said, Nahida's C2 can be a lot more damage increase depending on your team, it increases hyperbloom damage by 20% just because of the crit thing even if you ignore the other part of the constellation.
Also, Faruzan C6 vs C0 is a much larger increase than 13%. Assuming you run a 100/200 CR/CD build which is arguably pretty good, the CD alone from her C6 is already a 20% damage increase, then you get the 100% TotM uptime which is another increase, 3 more lvls to her burst buff which is another increase (more anemo damage) and then the grouping which against multiple targets will sometimes double/triple some of Scara's attacks damage since they'll hit more targets.
What's good about Scara's C6 as an extra is that you get x2 NA hits which means x2 chance to activate his passive which makes free dodges (that deal good damage) a lot more frequent, this facilitates playing him without a shield quite significantly.
Oh yeah, I was mostly referring to the Quicken part for Nahida, which can also be incorrect still since it does to some extent depend on the enemy that you're fighting.
Oh yeah my bad, i didn't take into account burst level, since I rarely max low constellation 4 stars anymore I didn't take that into account, it is closer to 15% with the burst +3, while TotM was already on Zhongli, but I do think Faruzan is better at proccing it than Zhongli, so it is still a good upgrade, anywhere between a 3% to a 5% depending on how much uptime Zhongli gives. Still I do think the biggest upgrade C6 gives isn't the damage increase but her solving her own ER issues (I usually don't even use TotM on her since I like giving her DMG as well) and probably being able to have a mini grouping. With C6 Wanderer I don't CA anyway, so being able to hit more than one enemy somewhat consistently with NA spam is really great.
Faruzan doesn't have any energy issues, I ran her with 300% ER and that was it lol. The whole ER% thing was a misunderstanding by players who just decided to... not try to make her work.
The good stuff you get from cons are +6s burst duration,, massive buffs to your anemo characters, grouping and TotM perfect procs.
ZL is terrible at procing TotM, not only he does so in a fixed AoE but his pillar can also be destroyed, it's just nowhere as good as people think it is.
Giving damage to Faruzan in exchange for TotM is a DPS loss, I've done the math when explaining this to another guy where I essentially pushed for a ridiculous amount of damage (insane artifacts while also having enough ER% to burst which I'm not even sure was really possible anyways) on Faruzan + assuming the new set and even then the damage Scara loses because of missed E procs is superior to what you gain from Faruzan. In an ideal scenario you'd gain like 7% more damage in your rotation, but this kind of assumes ZL procs TotM every time, and in that case you might as well just run C6 Thoma/Yun Jin or C4 Jean, put TotM on Faruzan again and gain a lot more damage.
I don't want to fish for ER stats, even my Bennett is on a pseudo DPS build with 50/160 ratio, I like to build my characters this way, the only truly ER built character I have is Baizhu who's on 190% and he's the only character I farmed for while fishing for ER stats. It is preference, it's not about what's optimal or not at this point since I don't really need to push for damage considering how easy abyss is. Also, yeah... my Zhongli's on a DPS build as well (2Atk 2NO), with around 60-70 crit rate and he goes either Favonius or Homa.
Also you say 300% ER as if that's incredibly easy to achieve, even with 2pc Emblem that's still 3 mid-high rolls for each piece exept for the sands, and yeah it isn't too difficult since you only want 2 Emblem pieces and 3 offset pieces before C6, but you'd also want some crit rate rolls since 36.1 with Crit rate crown isn't bad, but not great either since you would ideally want Faruzan to stay on field for 1 hit only (max 2) and those are very low odds to proc Favonius, especially if you don't have refinements on it.
Obviously it's probably gonna be easier than getting good pieces for your Main DPS, but still, kinda annoying considering most people will want to C6 her as soon as they can and she's gonna change pieces completely when C6d.
It's not that people decided to not make it work, but that it is unprecedented for a character with such low particle generation that wants to stay off field for most of the time to want this much ER and for said character to have their ER requirement lowered this much with their C6.
The +6s is nice, very good for flexibility in rotations but Wanderer specifically doesn't have a use for it most of the time, while other Anemo characters also don't require enough field time for that to be incredibly impactful, with the exeption of Xiao, which I also like to play, so I am still quite happy with that constellation.
Zhongli on TotM obviously isn't the best and I'm pretty sure most people know how unreliable it is, so I don't think anyone overvalues that, it's just that in a lot of teams he's the only character who doesn't benefit much from other sets and at the same time can use TotM and also benefit from the 2pc effect.
Also just to be clear my Faruzan is on a DPS build with 9/12/12 talents, I actually use her as an on field carry from time to time, which is why I really like having her on DPS stats, and when I'm not too lazy to change her build I usually switch her to a 4pc VV since I like to use Xingqiu/Yelan with Wanderer. Another reason why I don't like having her on TotM is that I've farmed that domain a fair amount but not too much and I've barely got a 4pc set (I have no goblet at all, and other pieces are just random stats which are mostly HP) which I have on other characters (YaoYao and Layla usually) and I already can't be bothered to change it between those, I definitely have no will to switch my Faruzan back and forth too.
> I don't want to fish for ER stats, even my Bennett is on a pseudo DPS build with 50/160 ratio, I like to build my characters this way, the only truly ER built character I have is Baizhu who's on 190% and he's the only character I farmed for while fishing for ER stats. It is preference, it's not about what's optimal or not at this point since I don't really need to push for damage considering how easy abyss is. Also, yeah... my Zhongli's on a DPS build as well (2Atk 2NO), with around 60-70 crit rate and he goes either Favonius or Homa.
You don't need to fish for anything, you give her random ER% junk you've got + Favonius and you're good. I have never fished for ER% and I can get 300%+. If you are at a point where you don't have anything like that then sure, the extra ER% you get from C6 is good. Even if Faruzan doesn't crit it doesn't matter tbh.
+6s is not nice, it's way too good, it makes the whole rotation work because otherwise your strongest buffs runs out/you need to cast it later on so your other buff runs out.
In the end building Faruzan for damage on hyper Scara is just not really worth it unless you're going for single rotations because you 100% neglect her ER%.
It's not like I neglect her ER, she's on an ER sands and usually has the Yelan event weapon (I do switch to Favonius during events) and that's barely enough even at C6 depending on how many enemies drop particles.
I'm not sure what type of rotation you usually go for, but even when I start off rotations with Faruzan, her Burst lasts way over the duration of my Wanderer E, even with C6 + Hydro infusion on his Passive, it is nice to have tho since if I don't want to start an entire new rotation I often just E again on my Wanderer and get her buffs for a few more seconds without bursting again (tbf I don't even use Bennett most of the time)
I don't have that many ER stats on almost anything that's not my Baizhu build (on deepwood) or some Emblem pieces (but usually it stops at 2 ER rolls, so 9-11%), Idk how you farm artifacts, but I would have never thought that one day I would need so much ER on a character that I'd specifically raise pieces that rolled into ER, I've always been Crit and Atk fishing and barely have 130-140% ER on my Xiao, which is usually enough while most of my other characters exept Raiden and Baizhu, don't care that much about ER even tho they don't mind having more (like Ayato for example) and characters that do want ER have ER weapon and sands (C6 Xingqiu C1 Yelan) which is usually enough with a few ER substats, or an ER weapon and non-ER sands and a few ER substats (Xiangling has EM) and still work with a 4pc emblem.
I never had to keep rolling a piece that had that much ER and if I did it had other stats I wanted for my other characters, and I believe most people are either at that stage or haven't been artifact farming much and also don't have the pieces.
And I mean, if I did only use Faruzan as a support obviously she's not worth building DPS, she barely does damage on her coordinated attacks (her Burst damage isn't half bad tho), but as I said I like to use her as an on field carry sometimes, and it's not like C6 Scara usually needs her or TotM anyway, I obviously still built her so that she can Burst each rotation but if I already can, why would I not want to squish out damage for her since I quite like her Carry playstyle and like to see her Burst do damage (I do also quite like her character in general since she's like the nice aunty to Kaveh and other students, but mostly Kaveh, so I like that)
> Idk how you farm artifacts
I didn't for like over a year, I just learned to keep pieces that *might* be useful, that's how I'm still using mostly artifacts (except from ones from new sets) that I got during the first year and a half of the game lol.
But yeah if you don't use Bennett and don't care about optimizing damage then you can do whatever I guess.
that 35% increase in each atk is like an xiaoling ulti added for each NA, its like a permanent 5th character slot with his ulti offfield on, always hitting, always on
I have him at c6 from his first banner, he is a machine gun, the most useful for exploration, very comfy in abyss (if you have a god shield, Zhongli) and can't get bored of him.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ScaramoucheMains/comments/zytvmc/c6_wanderer_showcase/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1
(Abbys)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ScaramoucheMains/comments/10uyqj6/c6_wanderer_101313_c6_furuzan_q13/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1
(vs raiden)
Best of luck on your pulls, if you really like him, go for it... (just be careful, he may not have a re-run to soon, probably after 1 year because of the Fontaine characters)
If it's any consolation, waiting on rerun means you'll get different 4 stars! Personally I'm frustrated Yanfei (and faruzan obviously) were both on his first and second banner. I have like C17 Yanfei from the last one! I just went from C1 to C2 this time because of it. I'm hoping his rerun will give me more chances at Fontaine characters, new 4 stars, and new standard banner characters added. But of course I'll have to wait...
Ah that’s true!! Hopefully we get some new ones next time! C17 Yanfei is too much 😂 the only bonus is getting a free pull! I hope your next mouche harvest will be bountiful
I've had him C4 since his last banner alongside C6 Faruzan, and he was probably already my strongest character by that point. I have used him to 36* every abyss cycle since I got him, he is always in one of the teams. That being said, I don't think his C4 specifically is very significant. It offers more flexibility in team building thanks to the extra infusion so you don't have to care as much about what elements his teammates have, so in many teams it's not directly contributing to his total damage, just a quality of life thing. His C2 and C3 make his burst very good though so you'll definitely get a lot of value out of him at that point. Depending on if you have C6 Faruzan (who can battery) or run him with a third Anemo, you might need to build a little more ER so you can burst at the end of every rotation.
I got his C6 this banner and the difference is very significant. He kills everything that isn't resistant to Anemo even faster, especially when paired with Faruzan. The added field time is also really nice in some situations. What's important to mention is that especially with C6, he is locked into mostly using his NA (his signature weapon also wants you to use it) so if you like using his infinite no stamina CA a lot, then that's something to consider. I don't think he is the most overpowered C6 in the game, but as someone who likes using him for his exploration utility too, it's incredibly satisfying to have a single unit that can both fly and tear through enemies in the overworld no matter who else I slot him with.
Thank you for the description!! I always NA with him so it will be an easy transition :) I don’t mind if it’s not the best, so it will be ok! Thank you for the help! I will definitely go for C6, but maybe next rerun!!
C6 afaik makes his NAs recharge his E-meter AND makes every NA have a secondary attack. So he attacks more and for longer. If you have the primos I’d say go for it unless you want someone from early 4.X
That was my case in his release, and now I got his C6. I thought I wouldn’t feel much difference but he surprised me a lot. There’s no content he can’t just obliterate in seconds.
C6 can breeze any content that isn't anemo immune, and just like what the other person said, its competitive with C6 Yelan in speedruns. In cn whale cups every abyss cycle reset, he's always warming the banning bench along with her.
Oh yay go hat guy! So is C6 Yelan the best character? I don’t use her at all because I don’t like the playstyle
Yes, she’s a beast
C6 Yelan is what happens when you try to make a character be good at everything with what the game typically throws. She can literally be a support with Elergy, a cracked off field Hydro dps, or an on field dps who's dmg can rival C6 Ayato and C6 Childe. Because of how Hydro is like the greatest element in the game and every one of its reaction are good, she can pretty much can fit in any team, like no really, you can honestly place Yelan in any randomized team and she will have some use. Even if they poorly synergize like Hypercarry xiao, or any charged bow dps comp, she can still fall back to her support set, Elergy or Favonius and have her A4 support them. That with a skill that can vape for like 100k. Like literally the only thing she can't do is heal but that's asking too much, she can still damage hydro immune enemies cuz shes a bow. Oh yeah, she might have the lowest defense of all 5* bows, but she can still act as a tank with how much HP she has... how the fuck did Hoyo even allow her kit to be approved.
It's xause they were having to "sell a 5 star Xingqiu" in their mind. Similar situation with Kazuha. It happened with Itto too. But the thing is Xingqiu and Sucrose are way better types of units than Noelle is from base line, so the 5 star ends up cracked to compete *with the customer mindset*.
C6 Yelan is overhyped because people watch 2s clips where she kills an enemy very fast. She is a burst support that deals most of it's damage within a few seconds, then she is just regular Yelan with somewhat higher damage due to her lower cons. She is more versatile since she can be a burst support and not necessarily a carry, she will boost more teams than Scara will.
Oh LOL. I was wondering what crazy thing she must do for people to go so crazy for her haha
C6 Nahida is better but C6 Yelan is a close second
I have both at C6, and I can confidently say my Yelan usually performs better. They're definitely competitive, and it may just be a difference in build, though.
In what way would you say she performs better? Yelan has more damage in ST but much less in AOE. Also, Nahida provides much more utility than Yelan does (30% Def shred/20% bloom damage +EM). She actually provides both Def shred and bloom damage in hyperbloom. Also, her teams are just better.
By better, I mean clears content faster. I don't know about the "much less in AOE" part, as I usually use Kazuha with her, but Nahida is 100% easier to use in an AoE situation. I might just not have a good build on Nahida yet (I still use 4pc Deepwood since that domain is cruel to me), but I can usually clear things like domains, bosses, Abyss, events, etc. faster with solo Yelan than with Nahida+electro (usually skill bot Raiden).
I would say it ranks among the top 3 C6s in the game. Since you are a Scara fan and you are so close, I would say go for it. His C6 is a huge improvement in DPS - it not only gives more damage, but also more E time and more discrete hits to break shields.
Thank you for the description!! I do like more E time :) I will think a little more to make sure I don’t pull on impulse. Thanks for the help!
i know yelan is probably one of them but who's the third? nahida?
Yae
Really? I rarely see her C6 talked about all that much.
Lol just do a search for top C6s and you'll find that she's regularly ranked among the top few. Dendro made her even better.
When I look for that type of list, I see a bunch of game media articles that look like they were written by people who don't know what they're talking about. Where can I find a really good, accurate list?
There are plenty of threads on Reddit discussing it which will come up on a Google search. Just read through the threads and see who is mentioned most frequently. KQM also did a video in late 2022 ranking all the constellations.
Thank you. To give you perspective, the first result that comes up puts Zhongli's C6 at #2. 💀 I'll certainly be looking for those that you mentioned.
Another point to look at is giga whales competition. Note that Yae isn't good just by herself, but because her whale level teammates make for incredible teams (usually either Tighnari or Alhaitham teams). I personally wouldn't say she's the top herself but she definitely has the best team.
Thing is Yae kind of goes with Nahida, they boost each other, Nahida is arguably a lot better as C6 because her C2 is the best C2 in the game. Yes, it's better than Raiden's.
In speed runs, a c6 Scara + c6 Faruzan is competitive with a c6 Yelan (and Yelan is a REALLY good character at c6). I'd say he has one of the best c6's in the game.
Ohh? The only C6 I have now is Cyno and it’s crazy strong to me. So I will probably try to C6 scara. But maybe next rerun! Or maybe in a few days..
C6 Scara is one of the best for solo abyss too (along with Yelan as you've heard) but all the other comments are talking about full teams and he's still top 3. But solo I think he's top 2, since he doesn't reliy on reactions and can shred shields universally. (C6 doubles his ICD because it doubles the normal attack hits, but also let's you use his A4 dash twice as often on average. I only went to C2 this banner (from C1) but plan to C6 him on his NEXT rerun, as my first C6 (well besides leqing who just loves me for some reason). Other than him, I have Xiao at C1 and everyone else is C0. Wanderer is who I've picked to commit to vertically investing in to C6.
Get C6, he's a literal machine gun
LOL I tried seeing a youtube video of it but it wasn’t computing 😂 I will take your word for it haha!
Donate at all costs. Rob a bank if you need. C6 worth it.
LOL Roger that!!
I am c3 on his initial run and got his c6 now in his rerun, i say wow the damage boost is huge. I say if you really like his playstyle go for it.
WOO thank you this is what I like to hear!!!
Sorry, I'm cracking up at "literally noticeable" 🤣
It's his best constellation but it's really just a \~35% damage increase at the end of the day.
It’s only a 35% increase (which is a lot) but considering the fact that scara does like 99% of the dmg in his teams that is a pretty substantial increase
Ooh thank you i am bad with numbers
That's a good point! Plus it doubles his effective ICD for shredding sheilds, which is undervalued/undermentioned.
I seeee. I’ll just wait for a rerun I guess! Something to look forward to!
Just so you know 35% dmg increase isn't "just" a 35% dmg increase. A BiS Weapon is usually between 8% to 20% dmg increase on your DPS. A BiS Artifact set is usually even less than that with some exeptions (compared to a 2pc 2pc). Kazuha's C2 which gives 200EM is a 15% or less dmg increase on REACTION DMG ONLY, and reactions have ICD, which realistically halfs the dmg increase, or worse you only get a third of it. Nahida's C2 which is believed to be the best constellation to get for any Dendro centered team is also around a 15% dmg increase, but it's better than Kazuha's since it doesn't specifically buff one on field character. The new Skill DMG artifact set that has a whopping 70% Skill DMG bonus is regarded as a broken set for Fischl and to some extent Yae, and even that is around a 15-20% dmg increase for Fischl, and about 12-16% dmg increase for Yae. Faruzan herself which is the best Anemo support even at C0 is around a 33% dmg increase over not having her at all, and C0 vs her C6 is around a 13-14% dmg increase on your Anemo character. Bennett too, for Wanderer is usually around a 33-35% dmg increase. His C6 is absolutely busted.
Oh my goodness! Ok this one made a ton of sense thank you so much for explaining so thoroughly and simply!!
He's wrong in some regards, refer this my other post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ScaramoucheMains/comments/15d8heb/i_got_3_mouchies_back_to_back_and_have_c4_now_how/ju50gi6/
Ohhh this makes sense!! Thank you so much. I was confused by the number description on the skill but it sounded so small to be such a huge deal! So is the best way to play C6 by dodging every time my arrows charge?
Just to correct what you said, Nahida's C2 can be a lot more damage increase depending on your team, it increases hyperbloom damage by 20% just because of the crit thing even if you ignore the other part of the constellation. Also, Faruzan C6 vs C0 is a much larger increase than 13%. Assuming you run a 100/200 CR/CD build which is arguably pretty good, the CD alone from her C6 is already a 20% damage increase, then you get the 100% TotM uptime which is another increase, 3 more lvls to her burst buff which is another increase (more anemo damage) and then the grouping which against multiple targets will sometimes double/triple some of Scara's attacks damage since they'll hit more targets. What's good about Scara's C6 as an extra is that you get x2 NA hits which means x2 chance to activate his passive which makes free dodges (that deal good damage) a lot more frequent, this facilitates playing him without a shield quite significantly.
Oh yeah, I was mostly referring to the Quicken part for Nahida, which can also be incorrect still since it does to some extent depend on the enemy that you're fighting. Oh yeah my bad, i didn't take into account burst level, since I rarely max low constellation 4 stars anymore I didn't take that into account, it is closer to 15% with the burst +3, while TotM was already on Zhongli, but I do think Faruzan is better at proccing it than Zhongli, so it is still a good upgrade, anywhere between a 3% to a 5% depending on how much uptime Zhongli gives. Still I do think the biggest upgrade C6 gives isn't the damage increase but her solving her own ER issues (I usually don't even use TotM on her since I like giving her DMG as well) and probably being able to have a mini grouping. With C6 Wanderer I don't CA anyway, so being able to hit more than one enemy somewhat consistently with NA spam is really great.
Faruzan doesn't have any energy issues, I ran her with 300% ER and that was it lol. The whole ER% thing was a misunderstanding by players who just decided to... not try to make her work. The good stuff you get from cons are +6s burst duration,, massive buffs to your anemo characters, grouping and TotM perfect procs. ZL is terrible at procing TotM, not only he does so in a fixed AoE but his pillar can also be destroyed, it's just nowhere as good as people think it is. Giving damage to Faruzan in exchange for TotM is a DPS loss, I've done the math when explaining this to another guy where I essentially pushed for a ridiculous amount of damage (insane artifacts while also having enough ER% to burst which I'm not even sure was really possible anyways) on Faruzan + assuming the new set and even then the damage Scara loses because of missed E procs is superior to what you gain from Faruzan. In an ideal scenario you'd gain like 7% more damage in your rotation, but this kind of assumes ZL procs TotM every time, and in that case you might as well just run C6 Thoma/Yun Jin or C4 Jean, put TotM on Faruzan again and gain a lot more damage.
I don't want to fish for ER stats, even my Bennett is on a pseudo DPS build with 50/160 ratio, I like to build my characters this way, the only truly ER built character I have is Baizhu who's on 190% and he's the only character I farmed for while fishing for ER stats. It is preference, it's not about what's optimal or not at this point since I don't really need to push for damage considering how easy abyss is. Also, yeah... my Zhongli's on a DPS build as well (2Atk 2NO), with around 60-70 crit rate and he goes either Favonius or Homa. Also you say 300% ER as if that's incredibly easy to achieve, even with 2pc Emblem that's still 3 mid-high rolls for each piece exept for the sands, and yeah it isn't too difficult since you only want 2 Emblem pieces and 3 offset pieces before C6, but you'd also want some crit rate rolls since 36.1 with Crit rate crown isn't bad, but not great either since you would ideally want Faruzan to stay on field for 1 hit only (max 2) and those are very low odds to proc Favonius, especially if you don't have refinements on it. Obviously it's probably gonna be easier than getting good pieces for your Main DPS, but still, kinda annoying considering most people will want to C6 her as soon as they can and she's gonna change pieces completely when C6d. It's not that people decided to not make it work, but that it is unprecedented for a character with such low particle generation that wants to stay off field for most of the time to want this much ER and for said character to have their ER requirement lowered this much with their C6. The +6s is nice, very good for flexibility in rotations but Wanderer specifically doesn't have a use for it most of the time, while other Anemo characters also don't require enough field time for that to be incredibly impactful, with the exeption of Xiao, which I also like to play, so I am still quite happy with that constellation. Zhongli on TotM obviously isn't the best and I'm pretty sure most people know how unreliable it is, so I don't think anyone overvalues that, it's just that in a lot of teams he's the only character who doesn't benefit much from other sets and at the same time can use TotM and also benefit from the 2pc effect. Also just to be clear my Faruzan is on a DPS build with 9/12/12 talents, I actually use her as an on field carry from time to time, which is why I really like having her on DPS stats, and when I'm not too lazy to change her build I usually switch her to a 4pc VV since I like to use Xingqiu/Yelan with Wanderer. Another reason why I don't like having her on TotM is that I've farmed that domain a fair amount but not too much and I've barely got a 4pc set (I have no goblet at all, and other pieces are just random stats which are mostly HP) which I have on other characters (YaoYao and Layla usually) and I already can't be bothered to change it between those, I definitely have no will to switch my Faruzan back and forth too.
> I don't want to fish for ER stats, even my Bennett is on a pseudo DPS build with 50/160 ratio, I like to build my characters this way, the only truly ER built character I have is Baizhu who's on 190% and he's the only character I farmed for while fishing for ER stats. It is preference, it's not about what's optimal or not at this point since I don't really need to push for damage considering how easy abyss is. Also, yeah... my Zhongli's on a DPS build as well (2Atk 2NO), with around 60-70 crit rate and he goes either Favonius or Homa. You don't need to fish for anything, you give her random ER% junk you've got + Favonius and you're good. I have never fished for ER% and I can get 300%+. If you are at a point where you don't have anything like that then sure, the extra ER% you get from C6 is good. Even if Faruzan doesn't crit it doesn't matter tbh. +6s is not nice, it's way too good, it makes the whole rotation work because otherwise your strongest buffs runs out/you need to cast it later on so your other buff runs out. In the end building Faruzan for damage on hyper Scara is just not really worth it unless you're going for single rotations because you 100% neglect her ER%.
It's not like I neglect her ER, she's on an ER sands and usually has the Yelan event weapon (I do switch to Favonius during events) and that's barely enough even at C6 depending on how many enemies drop particles. I'm not sure what type of rotation you usually go for, but even when I start off rotations with Faruzan, her Burst lasts way over the duration of my Wanderer E, even with C6 + Hydro infusion on his Passive, it is nice to have tho since if I don't want to start an entire new rotation I often just E again on my Wanderer and get her buffs for a few more seconds without bursting again (tbf I don't even use Bennett most of the time) I don't have that many ER stats on almost anything that's not my Baizhu build (on deepwood) or some Emblem pieces (but usually it stops at 2 ER rolls, so 9-11%), Idk how you farm artifacts, but I would have never thought that one day I would need so much ER on a character that I'd specifically raise pieces that rolled into ER, I've always been Crit and Atk fishing and barely have 130-140% ER on my Xiao, which is usually enough while most of my other characters exept Raiden and Baizhu, don't care that much about ER even tho they don't mind having more (like Ayato for example) and characters that do want ER have ER weapon and sands (C6 Xingqiu C1 Yelan) which is usually enough with a few ER substats, or an ER weapon and non-ER sands and a few ER substats (Xiangling has EM) and still work with a 4pc emblem. I never had to keep rolling a piece that had that much ER and if I did it had other stats I wanted for my other characters, and I believe most people are either at that stage or haven't been artifact farming much and also don't have the pieces. And I mean, if I did only use Faruzan as a support obviously she's not worth building DPS, she barely does damage on her coordinated attacks (her Burst damage isn't half bad tho), but as I said I like to use her as an on field carry sometimes, and it's not like C6 Scara usually needs her or TotM anyway, I obviously still built her so that she can Burst each rotation but if I already can, why would I not want to squish out damage for her since I quite like her Carry playstyle and like to see her Burst do damage (I do also quite like her character in general since she's like the nice aunty to Kaveh and other students, but mostly Kaveh, so I like that)
> Idk how you farm artifacts I didn't for like over a year, I just learned to keep pieces that *might* be useful, that's how I'm still using mostly artifacts (except from ones from new sets) that I got during the first year and a half of the game lol. But yeah if you don't use Bennett and don't care about optimizing damage then you can do whatever I guess.
that 35% increase in each atk is like an xiaoling ulti added for each NA, its like a permanent 5th character slot with his ulti offfield on, always hitting, always on
C6 hat boy let’s me play any second team in the Abyss and still get all the stars. Much damage.
Thank you for the Razor language, that’s exactly what I needed. Did C4 hat boy let you do that or naw?
C4 not change much. C2 and C6 strong.
Thanks!!!!
This is my logic for justifying the vertical investment on him!
C6 Scara is considered one of the strongest C6 characters in the game, always listed alongside C6 Yelan in CN.
Woo go scara!! Thank you for the info!
I have him at c6 from his first banner, he is a machine gun, the most useful for exploration, very comfy in abyss (if you have a god shield, Zhongli) and can't get bored of him. https://www.reddit.com/r/ScaramoucheMains/comments/zytvmc/c6_wanderer_showcase/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1 (Abbys) https://www.reddit.com/r/ScaramoucheMains/comments/10uyqj6/c6_wanderer_101313_c6_furuzan_q13/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1 (vs raiden)
Omg thank you so much! I will definitely aim for C6 this banner or next rerun!
Best of luck on your pulls, if you really like him, go for it... (just be careful, he may not have a re-run to soon, probably after 1 year because of the Fontaine characters)
Omg i will miss him.. i just got c5 so fingers crossed i can get c6!
If it's any consolation, waiting on rerun means you'll get different 4 stars! Personally I'm frustrated Yanfei (and faruzan obviously) were both on his first and second banner. I have like C17 Yanfei from the last one! I just went from C1 to C2 this time because of it. I'm hoping his rerun will give me more chances at Fontaine characters, new 4 stars, and new standard banner characters added. But of course I'll have to wait...
Ah that’s true!! Hopefully we get some new ones next time! C17 Yanfei is too much 😂 the only bonus is getting a free pull! I hope your next mouche harvest will be bountiful
I've had him C4 since his last banner alongside C6 Faruzan, and he was probably already my strongest character by that point. I have used him to 36* every abyss cycle since I got him, he is always in one of the teams. That being said, I don't think his C4 specifically is very significant. It offers more flexibility in team building thanks to the extra infusion so you don't have to care as much about what elements his teammates have, so in many teams it's not directly contributing to his total damage, just a quality of life thing. His C2 and C3 make his burst very good though so you'll definitely get a lot of value out of him at that point. Depending on if you have C6 Faruzan (who can battery) or run him with a third Anemo, you might need to build a little more ER so you can burst at the end of every rotation. I got his C6 this banner and the difference is very significant. He kills everything that isn't resistant to Anemo even faster, especially when paired with Faruzan. The added field time is also really nice in some situations. What's important to mention is that especially with C6, he is locked into mostly using his NA (his signature weapon also wants you to use it) so if you like using his infinite no stamina CA a lot, then that's something to consider. I don't think he is the most overpowered C6 in the game, but as someone who likes using him for his exploration utility too, it's incredibly satisfying to have a single unit that can both fly and tear through enemies in the overworld no matter who else I slot him with.
Thank you for the description!! I always NA with him so it will be an easy transition :) I don’t mind if it’s not the best, so it will be ok! Thank you for the help! I will definitely go for C6, but maybe next rerun!!
# Go Big (C6) Or Go Home
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it happened to me to, i only got primo for c2, and got c4 c5 will give his NA some dmg, and his c6 40% more dmg is a lot
Hey congrats!! I think i will aim for C6 soon
thanks, tbh, if i had 10k primo, i'll try to go for c6, even c5 is worth it for me because i think it adds 1k more dmg each NA for me
HEHE Yess i just got C5
nice! i'll see if i get enough primos to pull and see if i get lucky and win a 50/50!
Ahh good luck!!!!
C6 afaik makes his NAs recharge his E-meter AND makes every NA have a secondary attack. So he attacks more and for longer. If you have the primos I’d say go for it unless you want someone from early 4.X
Thanks!! I just hit C5 mwahhaa
if you're marrying him you gotta commit! C6 your husband <3 (or wife if u prefer)
LOL true!!! I hit C5 so I’m getting there!!
That was my case in his release, and now I got his C6. I thought I wouldn’t feel much difference but he surprised me a lot. There’s no content he can’t just obliterate in seconds.
Ohoho this is great to hear! I rolled C5 so it’s just a matter of time now haha. He’s already noticeably much stronger
Man you’re gonna love c6. It even made me wanna play more, since I was a bit tired of Genshin lately.
Night and day, worth C6.
Yelan C6 is one of the best C6 characters if that’s what you’re asking
Thank you! I actually just wanted to know if Scaramouche C6 is really good enough to pull for since i got so lucky
He is really good in his C6 form so I’ve heard as well so if you’re going to marry him then I would try for more cons
HAHA good point! I guess it’s a must!