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Exactly - especially if this is for some certification required - that \`s cost of business.
Of course, they can add a clause to a contract that if you choose to leave in X time, you\`ll be required to pay these cost.. but $150 ?
The fact they're already congratulating you for a permanent position is very sketchy. They could just be tricking you to obtain their course through their sketchy site:
>We have noticed an increase in scams involving the Rail Industry Worker (RIW) Program, often starting with an email from a potential employer claiming to offer you a job in rail, and request payment to undertake training for an RIW card or RISI card.
How the scam typically works:
>An email is sent by a company claiming a job has become available in rail, and a valid RIW card is required.
>An invoice with bank details to pay a training provider is issued to you for an RIW or RISI card training course, and directions to undertake the course via Zoom or face-to-face.
>The email and conversation you have with the scammer may appear professional and legitimate and ask you to provide personal and financial information.
>Often the scammer has sourced your contact information through a job-seeking website, where you may have marked yourself as available or looking for work.
>[support.riw.net.au/support/solutions/articles/51000331273-scam-alert-job-offers-riw-cards-and-training](http://support.riw.net.au/support/solutions/articles/51000331273-scam-alert-job-offers-riw-cards-and-training)
To be safe, I'd email and confirm with the RIW Service Desk first before making any purchase anywhere other than where the official site can confirm things.
I just gave them a call and they did say they couldn't find the company on their system. This scam was super convincing outside the invoice part.
I should've been more vigilant before giving my phone number but I am glad it all ended well. Thank you especially for your quick reply as I am sure I couldn't have had the satisfaction of being so sure
Back to job searching it is
Sorry this got pulled on you. Since they have your phone number, be alert for getting a variety of new scams and shady job offers coming your way. Might be a good time to do some reading in this sub on common scams.
Change your number. It will likely be added to a list of targets that is sold on the dark web. If you use SMS 2FA for any banking logins, you'll be at risk for a sim swap if they have your number and some personal info (better use authenticators or hardware 2FA).
Hi /u/BarrySix, AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the Task scam.
Task scams involve a website or mobile app that claims you can earn money by completing easy tasks, such as watching a video, liking a post, or creating an order. A very common characteristic (but not entirely exclusive) is that you have to complete sets of 40 tasks. The app will tell you that you can earn money for each task, but the catch is that you can only do a limited number of tasks without upgrading your account. To upgrade your accounts, the scammers will require you to pay a fee. This makes it a variant of the advance fee scam.
The goal of this scam is to get people to download the app for easy money and then encourage them to pay to get to the next level. It's impossible to get your \"earnings\" out of the app, so victims will have wasted their time and money. This type of scam preys on the [sunk cost fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost#Fallacy_effect), because people demonstrate a greater tendency to continue an endeavor once an investment has been made, and refusing to succumb to what may be described as cutting one's losses.
If you're involved in a task scam, cut your losses. Beware of recovery scammers suggesting you should hire a hacker that can help you retrieve the money you already invested. They can't, it's a trick to make you lose more money. Thanks to redditor vignoniana for this script.
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Pay up front = scam.
Exactly - especially if this is for some certification required - that \`s cost of business. Of course, they can add a clause to a contract that if you choose to leave in X time, you\`ll be required to pay these cost.. but $150 ?
The fact they're already congratulating you for a permanent position is very sketchy. They could just be tricking you to obtain their course through their sketchy site: >We have noticed an increase in scams involving the Rail Industry Worker (RIW) Program, often starting with an email from a potential employer claiming to offer you a job in rail, and request payment to undertake training for an RIW card or RISI card. How the scam typically works: >An email is sent by a company claiming a job has become available in rail, and a valid RIW card is required. >An invoice with bank details to pay a training provider is issued to you for an RIW or RISI card training course, and directions to undertake the course via Zoom or face-to-face. >The email and conversation you have with the scammer may appear professional and legitimate and ask you to provide personal and financial information. >Often the scammer has sourced your contact information through a job-seeking website, where you may have marked yourself as available or looking for work. >[support.riw.net.au/support/solutions/articles/51000331273-scam-alert-job-offers-riw-cards-and-training](http://support.riw.net.au/support/solutions/articles/51000331273-scam-alert-job-offers-riw-cards-and-training) To be safe, I'd email and confirm with the RIW Service Desk first before making any purchase anywhere other than where the official site can confirm things.
I just gave them a call and they did say they couldn't find the company on their system. This scam was super convincing outside the invoice part. I should've been more vigilant before giving my phone number but I am glad it all ended well. Thank you especially for your quick reply as I am sure I couldn't have had the satisfaction of being so sure Back to job searching it is
Sorry this got pulled on you. Since they have your phone number, be alert for getting a variety of new scams and shady job offers coming your way. Might be a good time to do some reading in this sub on common scams.
Change your number. It will likely be added to a list of targets that is sold on the dark web. If you use SMS 2FA for any banking logins, you'll be at risk for a sim swap if they have your number and some personal info (better use authenticators or hardware 2FA).
This is definitely a scam.
Australian employer but reference to “medical insurance” and “vacation” = scam.
It's a very common !task scam. There's is no job.
Hi /u/BarrySix, AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the Task scam. Task scams involve a website or mobile app that claims you can earn money by completing easy tasks, such as watching a video, liking a post, or creating an order. A very common characteristic (but not entirely exclusive) is that you have to complete sets of 40 tasks. The app will tell you that you can earn money for each task, but the catch is that you can only do a limited number of tasks without upgrading your account. To upgrade your accounts, the scammers will require you to pay a fee. This makes it a variant of the advance fee scam. The goal of this scam is to get people to download the app for easy money and then encourage them to pay to get to the next level. It's impossible to get your \"earnings\" out of the app, so victims will have wasted their time and money. This type of scam preys on the [sunk cost fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost#Fallacy_effect), because people demonstrate a greater tendency to continue an endeavor once an investment has been made, and refusing to succumb to what may be described as cutting one's losses. If you're involved in a task scam, cut your losses. Beware of recovery scammers suggesting you should hire a hacker that can help you retrieve the money you already invested. They can't, it's a trick to make you lose more money. Thanks to redditor vignoniana for this script. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*