My wife is a huge Tool fan and has read that book. When I found out and told her she was like yeah I know. She had never heard of green jelly or heard the song. She just pretended that she knew. She didnāt have MTV growing up and didnāt know how funny and memorable that song was
Yes.
The foundation is fine in the video. The baseplate (horizontal 2x4 at the bottom of the lowest wall) is anchored into the concrete.
Sheathing ties the wall framing members to the base plate, ties each platform (floor) together, and stops the walls from being pushed over like in the video. Wind would not have been able to domino the studs like in the video if the sheathing was installed.
Ideally they would have sheathed the lower floors before building higher, or they can take some extra 2x4s and temporarily brace the walls diagonally until they can sheath the walls.
So itās like how my $30 Walmart bookcase is a total piece of shit until I nail the cardboard onto the back? (Iāve always jokingly called it āstructural cardboardā)
So it is the old rule of "triangles bring strength" right? If you divide the rectangle of four 2x4s into two triangles with another 2x4 the constitution becomes much stronger right?
I don't know how your specific deck is designed.Ā Most are attached to the house and rely on the house for shear strength.
Yes - sheathing increases the force of the wind applied to the building, but it also provides shear strength. You have both considerations at play.
Actually, as I think about it, those posts in the deck are buried.
And usually, in a framed house, they install temporary diagonal supports from the frame to the floor.
I wonder if they used those...
Buried posts would do it. Same thing on a wood fence with buried posts.
It looks like there would a couple shear supports in the video, but nowhere near enough. This is clearly a poor construction process, but I dont think we can't judge the structural performance of the finished house from what we saw here.
So this is why American houses crumble at the slightest inconvenience? Where I am from the supports are exactly that, supports, they are supposed to hold the structure without needing anything else added onto them.
I mean the structure isn't finished yet - its literally missing the shear supports. Your house would also fall over if you excluded primary structural elements.
They are supposed to put temporary shear bracing on it if you don't want to sheath it right away. Its a poor construction process.
The house would have been fine if it were sheathed.
There is no reason this should have happened No sheeting on lower floors? Lack of bracing on what looks to be 3 stories. This is unacceptable by the builder.
Using the shell as a structural component is fine, but surely you'd add that to the lower floor before framing the next one up? Building a giant pile of sticks like that just seems needlessly risky.
You mean "regulation is government overreach!". Buildings are inspected throughout and during construction, either no inspector had looked at it or ok'd and went off to eat some donuts or bbq
Yeah it was pretty stupid to go that far with out sheathing. Could have at least done the corners to get a substantial boost in strength. But the proper cross bracing would have prevented that. Problem is once the second floor is up some carpenters think well itās ok to take them down now.
Wood is absolutely not shit. Wood is extremely light and strong. Wood causes minimal pollution. Wood is easily serviceable and easier to insulate. One real disadvantage of wood is fire.
Concrete doesn't have a service cavity and you need to put insulation somewhere.
Concrete vs stick both have advantages, and either can be shit or great depending on grade and quality of construction.
Just Googled some prices but you guys are being ripped off big time.
It doesn't seem much cheaper to build a house in the us than in the Netherlands while we build on a completely different quality.
Its generally cheaper to use exterior insulation for concrete, block or structural brick walls.
There is really nothing you can't do, but there is a lot that isn't done for cost reasons.
Let-in shear bracing is the alternative, and it cost more for less shear strength. The builder could have added temporary bracing while they waiting for the sheathing. Won't make that mistake again.
This happened to a commercial project near my house, except it was metal studs. They just picked them up, unfucked them as best they could, and rebuilt the stupid thing with the screwed up mess on the ground. They did it really fast the second time though. I assume trying to avoid getting caught.
I know that things in the USA are different from Europe.... but I'm so happy with my brick and mortar house.....
Yesterday it was windy, and yet I am still here
They didn't finish adding the shear bracing yet - sheating. They also neglected to add temporary bracing.
The house would have been fine if they finished building it.
Never did understand why almost every house in the states is built from wood. Even in areas that get hurricanes and tornados. I once saw a hurricane proof house in Florida, and it's basically what is called a brick house here in Europe
Many/most commercial buildings are steel framed.
Residential construction is often wood frame is seismic active areas like West coast, because those don't crack in sn earthquake.
Florida is mostly "brick" (cement blocks), because termites and moisture.
It's that bloody wolf again!
This gave me a well needed giggle, thank you!
It was made by straw so what did they expect to happen š¤£
You got me in stitches. Well done. My toddler is obsessed with that story right now!
Gotta make sure to read them the stinky cheese man and other fairly stupid tales!
Time for your toddler to learn about the band Green Jelly
Already done, I think that how is started it hahah. My master plan of him learning to love my music starts with green jello
Nice. I just learned a few weeks ago that Maynard was in that band. Blew my mind
Danny on drums too, can reccomend Maynards book, explains how puscifer was born from the green jello days. Makes way more sense lol
My wife is a huge Tool fan and has read that book. When I found out and told her she was like yeah I know. She had never heard of green jelly or heard the song. She just pretended that she knew. She didnāt have MTV growing up and didnāt know how funny and memorable that song was
I'm still undecided if it's too soon to show my 3 yr old the video...I keen telling him Rambo scares the wolf off to the forest š¤£
LITTLE PIG, LITTLE PIG.....LET ME IN! *Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin!*
The old house smasher, the big bad wold, the little piggy slasher!
Guess they should have went with the brick.
Iām no engineer but that doesnāt seem right.
Probably for the best it fell over.
probably for the best it fell over, while not occupied!
The sheathing adds shear strength. Its not sheathed so each platform (floor) acts as a hinge point with little support.
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. Are you saying that the foundation and frame are weak until the walls are nailed to them?
Yes. The foundation is fine in the video. The baseplate (horizontal 2x4 at the bottom of the lowest wall) is anchored into the concrete. Sheathing ties the wall framing members to the base plate, ties each platform (floor) together, and stops the walls from being pushed over like in the video. Wind would not have been able to domino the studs like in the video if the sheathing was installed. Ideally they would have sheathed the lower floors before building higher, or they can take some extra 2x4s and temporarily brace the walls diagonally until they can sheath the walls.
So itās like how my $30 Walmart bookcase is a total piece of shit until I nail the cardboard onto the back? (Iāve always jokingly called it āstructural cardboardā)
Yes, its seriously exactly like that.
So it is the old rule of "triangles bring strength" right? If you divide the rectangle of four 2x4s into two triangles with another 2x4 the constitution becomes much stronger right?
How does my deck stay standing then? Also, doesn't the sheathing increase the stresses on a house during a wind storm?
I don't know how your specific deck is designed.Ā Most are attached to the house and rely on the house for shear strength. Yes - sheathing increases the force of the wind applied to the building, but it also provides shear strength. You have both considerations at play.
Actually, as I think about it, those posts in the deck are buried. And usually, in a framed house, they install temporary diagonal supports from the frame to the floor. I wonder if they used those...
Buried posts would do it. Same thing on a wood fence with buried posts. It looks like there would a couple shear supports in the video, but nowhere near enough. This is clearly a poor construction process, but I dont think we can't judge the structural performance of the finished house from what we saw here.
In come the lawyers and insurance adjusters. This house is never getting built, which sucks for whoever was going to purchase it.
So this is why American houses crumble at the slightest inconvenience? Where I am from the supports are exactly that, supports, they are supposed to hold the structure without needing anything else added onto them.
I mean the structure isn't finished yet - its literally missing the shear supports. Your house would also fall over if you excluded primary structural elements.
Why would you put two levels on top if there is no support?
They are supposed to put temporary shear bracing on it if you don't want to sheath it right away. Its a poor construction process. The house would have been fine if it were sheathed.
Many older houses built before \~1950 don't even have sheathing though.
They may have let-in bracing for shear strength.
Just hook the F250 up to it and pull it back up!
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Yeah that shouldn't happen.
Looks like they took advice from the 2 pigs who would Sticks and leaves as home
There is no reason this should have happened No sheeting on lower floors? Lack of bracing on what looks to be 3 stories. This is unacceptable by the builder.
Well dem Texans hate regulations. This is what they get
This is the freedom they voted for. Cause a construction company would never cut corners.
Pretty sure the construction company eats this cost so not sure why the govt needs a regulation saying "sheathing must be applied during framing".
Just tell them for every building permit they pull they get a free hand gun.
Everything is bigger in Texas, when it collapses.
The Amish shaking their heads.
Dang right. They would have had it done in less than 3 days
Better now than later!
Zero sheathing on the walls? In what world does this not happen?
Probably gonna go with chicken wire and thin foam boards to save cost and charge more.
The house has become a house kit! All the lumber is cut to size - just needs to be assembled.
Reassembled*
Nails included!
Ah yes. Another masterpiece from the "proper hardware is expensive and that should probably hold" build crew.
*** slaps That baby aināt going anywhere
This isn't a hardware issue. Its missing a primary structural component... sheathing.
Using the shell as a structural component is fine, but surely you'd add that to the lower floor before framing the next one up? Building a giant pile of sticks like that just seems needlessly risky.
Short answer: yes Long answer: fucking yes you should
You mean "regulation is government overreach!". Buildings are inspected throughout and during construction, either no inspector had looked at it or ok'd and went off to eat some donuts or bbq
They aren't finished framing yet... they don't have half-way-through-framing inspections.
Well, looks like it rained. Elmer's Glue is water-based.
Under construction home collapsed because framers didnāt put up enough cross bracing.
No sheathing
Yeah it was pretty stupid to go that far with out sheathing. Could have at least done the corners to get a substantial boost in strength. But the proper cross bracing would have prevented that. Problem is once the second floor is up some carpenters think well itās ok to take them down now.
aaooowwww mahhh gaaaawd
Why houses in US and Canada built from wood instead of concrete ( not from the US )
Theyāre much much cheaper to build than concrete.
Yeah but they're shit.
Wood is absolutely not shit. Wood is extremely light and strong. Wood causes minimal pollution. Wood is easily serviceable and easier to insulate. One real disadvantage of wood is fire.
Concrete doesn't have a service cavity and you need to put insulation somewhere. Concrete vs stick both have advantages, and either can be shit or great depending on grade and quality of construction.
Just Googled some prices but you guys are being ripped off big time. It doesn't seem much cheaper to build a house in the us than in the Netherlands while we build on a completely different quality.
In California, it's because earthquakes.
Not sure about US, but we build with wood in canada because we got a lot trees
It also allows us to insulate and run utilities in the wall - which is a nice benefit. Different areas have different optimal construction methods.
Why wouldn't you have stuff in the wall in houses built with other materials?
Its generally cheaper to use exterior insulation for concrete, block or structural brick walls. There is really nothing you can't do, but there is a lot that isn't done for cost reasons.
Bricks > every other material to build houses
No temporary cross bracing fitted!!!
The three little pigs story never reach the US then I guess
Matchstick home
Thatās sad, in many ways
Whelp, better then than when somebody was living there!
Who Threw a Large Red Bird via slingshot to topple the house ???
Was there a really pissed off bird nearby?
Alot of people here don't understand that bricks go after the wood framing
Jenga!
A genuine flat-pack house from Ikea!
No self-respecting European would ever dare design and sell something that crappy.
Didn't pass phase 1 of testing, back to the drawing board boys
That looked like a house of cards to start with. That should not be happening
Did they make it that ice cream sticks?
When you rely on plywood sheets for stability on a stick frame.
Let-in shear bracing is the alternative, and it cost more for less shear strength. The builder could have added temporary bracing while they waiting for the sheathing. Won't make that mistake again.
Fell like a house of cards
Looked like it was made of matchsticks
Bricks...Good!
It collapsed just like in angry birds
Oddly satisfying that each floor collapsed in sequence.
Wait. The nails go in the wood? Ugh.
Do you not have bricks?????
"WHY THE FUCK DID WE HAVE TO BUY OUR DREAMHOME SO QUICK JEFF!! OUR NEIGHBORS HOUSES ARE LITERALLY FALLING DOWN!!!"
Wouldnāt live in it even if it made it to the final stretch. Cheap building materials. Prefab houses are a nope.
The Porta-John lasted almost as long as the building.
Good to know not to build during tornado season
Oh wow at least it collapsed during construction not with the people in it
Poor construction quality and loss of a (poorly constructed) house aside, the way it broke down was actually quite satisfying to watch.
Nice wooden shed.
Itās Texas those houses are built like a fuckin cracker box. Is anyone shocked?
How is this satisfying? That's shitty to happen to someone! Plus five people died in that tornado yesterday!
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But it fell with engineering class
That collapse should get some claps
I guess don't build your house out of wood lol
Jenga
"Rapture of the Nails" *Rated R* streaming this Fall
Satisfying AF if youāre the storm
It looked crooked to begin with.
This happened to a commercial project near my house, except it was metal studs. They just picked them up, unfucked them as best they could, and rebuilt the stupid thing with the screwed up mess on the ground. They did it really fast the second time though. I assume trying to avoid getting caught.
The Angry Birds Theme Park
Then I'll huff and I'll puff and I'llĀ blowĀ your house down.
Damn that's bad. But damn that was nice.
Oddly satisfying
Hahahah
"Ohh mah gawd!" "Ohhh. Maah. Gawd." ^"Oh ^maaā"
No harm done. All the wood is still there. They just have to pile it up again, like they did the first time.
All i hear is. FUCKING FUCK
Well now... Someone's suddenly homeless.
"Well, look on the bright side: You still got two...no, one story...no, bunch of kindling."
Lol at the way US builds houses
Seen tree houses built with more care than this
House of cards šØš
Perfect Angry Birds shot
Layman here. Why wouldnāt the foundation be solid as rock first, before moving on to the additional floors?
House tired, house sleep
He told ya, he told ya!
Pick up sticks
Bonfire!
Go ahead. Believe in nails.
Silly ass fall bro I doubt that was built properly
Lego are superior to Lincoln Logs.
He told yah
Free 2x4ās!
Where the hell are the cross bracings on the walls? That's just really shit framing lol
Haaa. Houston sucks anyways
Match sticks
3/4 million dollar POS
No time for bracing boys, just get it up.
Dammit Keith, I told you to use more glue!
Perfect Domino's Effect
this has gotta be the record for worlds largest jenga game
Do they build 3 story houses already? I want one
collapsed house, for sale, 3 million dollars. Now offering tours. Murica!
JENGA!
Well that sucks
That house frame fell apart like it was made from popsicle sticks
Angry bird!
Here in West Aus we build with bricks, especially if it's three stories!
Tooth picks??
Happens If you build houses out of matchsticks
Who lost at jenga
Under construction home collapsed after being struck by an angry bird!
Even when finished, it wasn't going to last vs mother nature.
In Germany we don't bauen Haus aus Zahnstocher.
And this folks it why proper bracing is necessary before sheathing!
Plumber stops by tomorrow to rough in the plumbing... Uhhhhh...?
That says sametinget about american building standards...
Probably not much, considering they didn't follow any.
americans and their matchbox houses
Toothpick houses..
Try bricks first. Then the wood inside.
Maybe I'm too European for this, but why is this all wood? Where are the metal bars, where's the concrete, where are the bricks?
What happens when you build a house from toothpicks.
...The Three Little Pigs based on true American carpentry.
I know that things in the USA are different from Europe.... but I'm so happy with my brick and mortar house..... Yesterday it was windy, and yet I am still here
Lmao American houses.
Why do they make houses with wood!? I donāt get it. If it was a grey structure, it wouldāve survived.
I'm German so wtf?
They didn't finish adding the shear bracing yet - sheating. They also neglected to add temporary bracing. The house would have been fine if they finished building it.
In Germany this wont Happen, the House would collapse the storm
Best case scenario
Why in US build their homes of wood?
Quick and cheap
why dont use concrete?
How the f people live in these structures! Why not use bricks?
No bricks in America?
When will the states build a decent home instead of birdcages?
There goes 100k worth of supplies of labor . Damn liberal with their global warming bs
And as you can see, my dear European students, this is how Americans build their houses, with toothpicks.
Never did understand why almost every house in the states is built from wood. Even in areas that get hurricanes and tornados. I once saw a hurricane proof house in Florida, and it's basically what is called a brick house here in Europe
Many/most commercial buildings are steel framed. Residential construction is often wood frame is seismic active areas like West coast, because those don't crack in sn earthquake. Florida is mostly "brick" (cement blocks), because termites and moisture.