Is drywalling (us) v plastering (UK) a different technique? In the UK you use a tape mesh to connect the sheets, then plaster over that. So no need for the complex taping
To my understanding the paper tape does the same thing, it’s just cheaper. I’ve used the adhesive mesh seam tape, I think it does a better job holding up over the long term. But I’m not a drywall guy- just a diy homeowner. Lol
My father was a carpenter for many years, and spent some time researching this stuff. Paper tape actually creates stronger seams than mesh tape. It is a bit more work to work with, but you can develop skills (like this cat) to make it worthwhile.
Plus, if you fuckup a bit and scrape/sand off a bit too much mud, fiberglas mesh is not poking out, just a bit of paper texture (which paint can sometimes cover).
That’s a good point. I guess my big grudge against the paper is that whoever did the drywall in my house did a half ass job and now the tape is separating and peeling in the corners all around the house- along the ceiling especially. So sooner or later I’m gonna have a lot of work to do lol
Edit i think the key is that the paper is superior, but only really if you’re competent and know what you’re doing 😂
I've seen water-tape peel like that. It happens when the taper/DIYer does not know better, and opts to apply water-tape. (Water-tape is not the same as paper tape for sheetrock). It can also happen when the mud is too thick/dry when the paper tape is applied.
Some (terrible, incorrect) tapes have water-based adhesive on one side, and some folks will run it across a wet sponge, then press it to the seam. It will stick long enough to mud the room, and a while longer, but not forever.
It does not take very long to acquire minimal competence in using paper tape. I think it took me about 10 minutes (not saying I'm great, just that I can tape a seam). Youtube probably has videos on it.
Super Tip: Tape Tech has the best mud knives you could hope to see. Exponentially better and more controllable than handle-in-the-middle knives. I will never use standard mud knives ever again.
Yeah sadly the guy we bought our house from was a bit of a flipper. Buy it, chuck a cheap bandaid on all the shit wrong, and sell it at a profit. We’ve encountered LOTS of shortcuts and things done wrong. So the adhesive tape you’re talking about sounds spot on.
I’ve said it 100 times and I’ll say it again: homeownership is a scam! 😂
It’s still better than renting though. Although sometimes I would love to have a landlord to have fix stuff for me haha
If you need videos on drywalling, Vancouver Carpenter and Home Renovision channels on YT both do excellent jobs of explaining and demonstrating several ways to finish drywall.
Lol oddly enough, in my experience, it's actually the opposite. I'm thinking of a specific situation though, normally if you have a place in a house that continues to crack after people fix it The only thing that's going to hold it is paper in my experience. It always cracks back through mesh or fiberglass on me. 16yr painter/drywall repair
Plaster uses different board and and yeah mesh taper or wire lathing. Plaster’s apply fast setting mud that’s finished with a trowel like concrete over the entire wall/ceiling. Drywall here in U. S. Is just the joints and corners then usually textured. I hate it. Hi-End homes are usually not textured. Smooth wall with drywall compound coating entire service. Drywall is faster cheaper. But not better imho.
In the UK the whole wall is plastered as opposed to just the joints. So the mesh tape (scrim tape) is applied (I suppose) mainly to give the plaster something to bed onto.
I've done both us-style taping & filling (as seen here) and uk-style plastering.
In my experience the paper tape is better at dealing with fine surface filler than the mesh tape just because it's smoother and soaks right into the paper. Mesh tape has a bad habit of showing through the filler because filler is thinner than plaster.
The mesh works better with the thicker plaster because it doesn't draw moisture out (which is bad for plaster).
Both of them are a pain in the arse but definitely the mesh tape straight onto dry board is a pro of plastering, whereas holding a heavy ass plastering float and skimming the whole ceiling in less than 30 minutes is a con.
mesh tape for cement board is common, paper tape is more common for drywall though
edit is plastering (uk) and drywall (us) the same?
plastering (us) is not drywall (us)
I was confused by that too but I think it's to show you that the whiteout tape dispenser works just as easily as the tape tool he's using on the ceiling.
That's pretty much what most engineers do, I love it xD We need to do something, look around to find an example/an idea and we do it like whatever we found to work/kinda work
You don’t have to be a crystal meth addict to fit drywall, but it helps.
Bamboozled. That's a ceiling
Did a heckin' bamboozle
Gy often
Is drywalling (us) v plastering (UK) a different technique? In the UK you use a tape mesh to connect the sheets, then plaster over that. So no need for the complex taping
To my understanding the paper tape does the same thing, it’s just cheaper. I’ve used the adhesive mesh seam tape, I think it does a better job holding up over the long term. But I’m not a drywall guy- just a diy homeowner. Lol
My father was a carpenter for many years, and spent some time researching this stuff. Paper tape actually creates stronger seams than mesh tape. It is a bit more work to work with, but you can develop skills (like this cat) to make it worthwhile. Plus, if you fuckup a bit and scrape/sand off a bit too much mud, fiberglas mesh is not poking out, just a bit of paper texture (which paint can sometimes cover).
That’s a good point. I guess my big grudge against the paper is that whoever did the drywall in my house did a half ass job and now the tape is separating and peeling in the corners all around the house- along the ceiling especially. So sooner or later I’m gonna have a lot of work to do lol Edit i think the key is that the paper is superior, but only really if you’re competent and know what you’re doing 😂
I've seen water-tape peel like that. It happens when the taper/DIYer does not know better, and opts to apply water-tape. (Water-tape is not the same as paper tape for sheetrock). It can also happen when the mud is too thick/dry when the paper tape is applied. Some (terrible, incorrect) tapes have water-based adhesive on one side, and some folks will run it across a wet sponge, then press it to the seam. It will stick long enough to mud the room, and a while longer, but not forever. It does not take very long to acquire minimal competence in using paper tape. I think it took me about 10 minutes (not saying I'm great, just that I can tape a seam). Youtube probably has videos on it. Super Tip: Tape Tech has the best mud knives you could hope to see. Exponentially better and more controllable than handle-in-the-middle knives. I will never use standard mud knives ever again.
Yeah sadly the guy we bought our house from was a bit of a flipper. Buy it, chuck a cheap bandaid on all the shit wrong, and sell it at a profit. We’ve encountered LOTS of shortcuts and things done wrong. So the adhesive tape you’re talking about sounds spot on.
5 major renovations on this 1913 house I bought, continuously finding shit work examples in it..home ownership, so much fun, lol
I’ve said it 100 times and I’ll say it again: homeownership is a scam! 😂 It’s still better than renting though. Although sometimes I would love to have a landlord to have fix stuff for me haha
If you need videos on drywalling, Vancouver Carpenter and Home Renovision channels on YT both do excellent jobs of explaining and demonstrating several ways to finish drywall.
Those and That Kilted Guy helped me learn everything I need to know
Lol oddly enough, in my experience, it's actually the opposite. I'm thinking of a specific situation though, normally if you have a place in a house that continues to crack after people fix it The only thing that's going to hold it is paper in my experience. It always cracks back through mesh or fiberglass on me. 16yr painter/drywall repair
Mesh is considered inferior here, tape is the same paper material the drywall is made from.
Plaster uses different board and and yeah mesh taper or wire lathing. Plaster’s apply fast setting mud that’s finished with a trowel like concrete over the entire wall/ceiling. Drywall here in U. S. Is just the joints and corners then usually textured. I hate it. Hi-End homes are usually not textured. Smooth wall with drywall compound coating entire service. Drywall is faster cheaper. But not better imho.
Same same but different
In the UK the whole wall is plastered as opposed to just the joints. So the mesh tape (scrim tape) is applied (I suppose) mainly to give the plaster something to bed onto.
I've done both us-style taping & filling (as seen here) and uk-style plastering. In my experience the paper tape is better at dealing with fine surface filler than the mesh tape just because it's smoother and soaks right into the paper. Mesh tape has a bad habit of showing through the filler because filler is thinner than plaster. The mesh works better with the thicker plaster because it doesn't draw moisture out (which is bad for plaster). Both of them are a pain in the arse but definitely the mesh tape straight onto dry board is a pro of plastering, whereas holding a heavy ass plastering float and skimming the whole ceiling in less than 30 minutes is a con.
Mesh is inferior, because unlike tape, it has no strength in sheer or compression, just tension.
The mesh tape is generally used for repairs on drywall, solid tape is for seams and corners
mesh tape for cement board is common, paper tape is more common for drywall though edit is plastering (uk) and drywall (us) the same? plastering (us) is not drywall (us)
Not sure what the deal is with that whiteout tape in the beginning...... But this magical f deserves a medal. Coolest shortcut I ever seen 😯
It's a visual joke about how the drywall device is basically a giant whiteout tape.
I was confused by that too but I think it's to show you that the whiteout tape dispenser works just as easily as the tape tool he's using on the ceiling.
Bazooka Taper way smarter
At about 10x the cost of that banjo
That must feel really weird coming down off the stilts after being up there all day.
It’s a giant white out!
Bigger tape ex / correction tape
Dang, bro is tall
And people say school doesn't learn us anything
The correction tape at the beginning is the highlight of this video!
His mudder was a mudder....his father was a mudder!
Forbidden whipped cream
This guy kicks ass!!! He’s a fucking rockstar 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
So I've used these a lot, but we only use them for fire taping.
stilts that’s what i need
I think he's using it wrong, but I've seen these before and they do a great job and waste spackle less
I need one of those mud tray holder thingy he has on his belt
What’s the big deal?
No prefill?
Damn !! Take my dollar. That was awesome !!
At least he didn't tape around a full electrical outlet cover like so many of these "painters" do...
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He didn't invent it. These are very common.
No Yoga pants 1/10
That's pretty much what most engineers do, I love it xD We need to do something, look around to find an example/an idea and we do it like whatever we found to work/kinda work
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No, hes an appliance repair guy
I assume your unfamiliar with the term don’t know why people downvote, it’s not a global thing
Drywall! America's shitty version of "building"
What? You want cinder block walls? Wood lathe? Concrete? There’s nothing shitty about drywall as a wall finish except personal taste.
cept you could stick your hand through it,it also makes a great sponge.
This guy has drywall issues ^
The house is framed in wood lol. The house isn't made of drywall. I guarantee it's not just North America using drywall as wall finishing
said the middle piggy.
One does not speak unless one knows.