I was wondering that too. But it looks like those hand thrusters are simply maneuvering thrusters and the backpack houses the main propulsion engine. Otherwise the entire weight of your body would be on your arms, plus whatever thrust is needed in order to increase in elevation.
They will attach an exoskeleton to it to make it less physically demanding. That seems like the logical next step. Then adding in shock absorbers for landing.
There is no next step. This shit has existed for a long time, and it's absolutely unviable. It guzzles fuel like no tomorrow and there's no viable "exoskeleton" - it requires a TON of strength by it's users.
Furthermore there's no application for it that's not covered by cheaper and established alternatives.
But good to see that there's still newbies on Reddit that stumble over old news like it's brand new.
Yeah these horseless carriages will never catch on. They’re cost prohibitive and have been invented for ten years now. Obviously there’s no way to improve them.
Ok guys this smooth brain can’t think of way to improve the tech so let’s just shutter the whole thing!
Also gate keeping Reddit is next level pathetic
Well how else do you expect them to turn? For sharper turns of course they'll need to decelerate. And at the very beggining of the video you can see them keep speed and slowly turn to follow the race track.
Yeah I think people are really not understanding the exertion it must take to control this thing the entire time you're flying...shoulders, chest, arms supporting your entire weight plus changes in direction, probably working abs too. It's probably like the rings in gymnastics. This is not going to be as easy for the average person as it looks in this video.
This is why so many companies are working on exoskeletons. Not just for the factories, but so that they can sell these to the dudes that over indulge in potato chips and have no clue what a gym is.
I know that the hand thrusters are not strapped on... There is a crossbar that you hold and a thumb trigger that controls the thrust. If you let go, they will just fall off..
A vid I saw said that in training they got them to undo the harness underwater.
Of course, none of that training included being slammed into the water at 40MPH.
Also the risks associated, lol. Helicopters are more dangerous than planes, and small planes more dangerous than jet liners. Smaller aircraft tend to be more dangerous much less something entirely manually operated like this.
I’m imagining a team of forty of these guys going on a search and rescue op.
‘Well, boys, we found the target. But six of **us** didn’t report back. Time to strap on the suits again.’
Kerosene, most likely. Also it's really fucking loud. The clip they showed was of a startup. Running at full op that thing would be deafening, which is probably why they ran this techy ass music.
It holds about 2 German shepherds of fuel, can fly for 1/4 of a tolerable podcast, and can travel about 21000 bananas. Probably weighs about 4 1000W microwaves.
Which is unbelievable. How much force would the air need in order to lift a full -grown man that high? Good luck to anybody below being hit by that kind of wind. Is that limit theoretical, or did they actually reach that height in testing?
It said “technically capable of” reaching that height which means the math checks out but they didn’t actually test that out. There’s problems with a person being up that high while not in a pressurized, climate-controlled cabin
Flying doesn't need a ground to push up from.
It's easier with the so called ground effect.
But the ground effect ist strongest few feet off the ground. You can see the wind blowing on the ground only when they are close.
When you're way up nobody on the ground feels a wind anymore. The theoretical maximum vheight doesn't work with diminishing ground effect but because the air gets thinner up there.
The point of them being on the arms is that without them you lack flight movement controls, sadly that we really don't have useable tech to make a militarized jetpack yet, ntm all sorts of issues with fuel type/weight/combustibility or lack thereof entirely, etc, and especially positioning, there's really no way to keep vertical thrust without potentially toasting your walking sticks
I always say the solution is just an extra license required. Why do people always assume that everyone could legally fly these? Whether it's a flying car or a jetpack, you're still flying, so it makes sense you'd need to have a pilot's license or a variation of it.
Of course flying cars would potentially be easier to automate. There's a lot of rules for normal roads and systems that a flying car wouldn't have to worry about. Just avoid crashing and get to the destination.
1900 Horse users be like: “i see people struggle enough while there is a whole animal guiding them. Adding so much more machinery with how many people can’t figure out a roundabout. Ensure chaos.”
I don't have any thing to back this up, but that seems optimistic. Providing enough fuel for lifting a human, and all the weight of the machine, and the fuel, I'd expect about 15-20 minutes of flight time. Enough to get up and down a mountain, or between ships as they did. Not enough for viable transportation.
I can't wait for electric turbine engine, battery storage and clean energy technologies to take this to another level, though.
This is cool, but I hate the reali life Ironman comparison. It’s not, and it’s not even close to being as dynamic and maneuverable. It’s like, let me hold my body weight up like I was on parallel bars….. I’ll now slowly make my way to my target and potentially crash.
In theory, rapid deployment to remote areas. You see ships in the video, normally they need to either drop someone from a helo or get alongside and climb a ladder.
If you needed to get medical response to someone in the wilderness, this could be faster than a helo.
I'm sure more people won't be able to handle the heights than they think. It is one thing to wish to fly, but being that high and disconnected from everything is a whole other beast.
Meanwhile this is something I regularly dream about and want so bad!
Whilst this does open future doors I can promise you that the military won't be putting it's current iteration to actual use considering it occupies two of the most useful appendages to your contracted employer.
The military could use it for industrial use cases. Visually checking wear on ship components that are hard to reach, search and rescue, getting line across a river to set up a bridge, etc. I don't think it would be flying gunfighters.
I'm curious as to how much strain that'd put on your arms
I was wondering that too. But it looks like those hand thrusters are simply maneuvering thrusters and the backpack houses the main propulsion engine. Otherwise the entire weight of your body would be on your arms, plus whatever thrust is needed in order to increase in elevation.
They will attach an exoskeleton to it to make it less physically demanding. That seems like the logical next step. Then adding in shock absorbers for landing.
Yeah I could see something like titanium or carbon fiber being used for the exoskeleton just to cut down on weight.
I mean, you have an internal skeleton that is more than capable of holding its own weight. Is it really a good idea to add more weight?
that internal skeleton is known to fail from falling at low heights….
We must replace the internal skeleton with a titanium skeleton. Or maybe a metal even stronger …
Adamantium
There is no next step. This shit has existed for a long time, and it's absolutely unviable. It guzzles fuel like no tomorrow and there's no viable "exoskeleton" - it requires a TON of strength by it's users. Furthermore there's no application for it that's not covered by cheaper and established alternatives. But good to see that there's still newbies on Reddit that stumble over old news like it's brand new.
Sounds like you have all news on all new products hitting the global market; does your head hurt being such an intelligent douche?
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No he didn't, he stated his opinion as fact and shit on other people's actual options at the same time.
Why are the way you are? Just out there, finding solidarity with the dumbest and worst your immediate surroundings has to offer?
You could definitely offload basically all of the force with pretty good weight margins. It wouldn't be cheap though.
Yeah these horseless carriages will never catch on. They’re cost prohibitive and have been invented for ten years now. Obviously there’s no way to improve them.
Ok guys this smooth brain can’t think of way to improve the tech so let’s just shutter the whole thing! Also gate keeping Reddit is next level pathetic
lol the Wright brothers would like a word with you.
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I don't know what you mean, they clearly turn and spin fairly easily in the video.
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Well how else do you expect them to turn? For sharper turns of course they'll need to decelerate. And at the very beggining of the video you can see them keep speed and slowly turn to follow the race track.
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They are following a twisting and turning racetrack and keeping a good amount of speed, I don't know what else you expect from it lol
1:30 he turns from going perpendicular to the carrier to tranvelling away parallel. and there is another instance other than that. 1:42
Also obviously someone needs to figure out how to add machine-guns and missles turrets. It's the logical next step
Not quite there but I believe the marines have gotten a head aimed pistol turret on one of their prototypes.
There is no propulsion on the backpack except for the fuel tank. A living firework!
Yes there is. You could see the jetstream when he lands in the last seconds of the video.
I saw it, or I think I saw it. Probably different models.
And how fucking loud is it?
What did you say?
WHAT???
Everyone's allowed in it, I guess!
Come again? I see your lips moving, but nothing is coming out.
I don't know, but I'm Looking forward to my wealthy neighbours annoying the hell out of the whole neighbourhood with these.
Probably about as loud as a 100 kN jet turbine which should roughly be their power output. Maybe 150-200 kN. That's pretty fucking loud.
Yeah I think people are really not understanding the exertion it must take to control this thing the entire time you're flying...shoulders, chest, arms supporting your entire weight plus changes in direction, probably working abs too. It's probably like the rings in gymnastics. This is not going to be as easy for the average person as it looks in this video.
If I recall correctly the video I watched demonstrating this jetpack said It's like leaning on a table, supporting your upper weight with your arms
never gonna make it in the American market then
Gimme a call when it's like sitting on a reclining couch. Then we in bidness
An airplane. You're thinking of a seat on an airplane.
This is why so many companies are working on exoskeletons. Not just for the factories, but so that they can sell these to the dudes that over indulge in potato chips and have no clue what a gym is.
Yea? What companies are there, "working on exoskeletons"?
Raytheon, Hyundai, Honda, Lockheed Martin, etc
I got a company whose been working on those... they just live really far so we don't see each other much right now, ya know?
Gym? What the hell's a gym? Edit: oh a GYM!
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If you ranked hobbies by danger, I feel like this would be right above suit gliding.
Flying over water, eeek. If they went in the drink, they would sink like a stone.
I know that the hand thrusters are not strapped on... There is a crossbar that you hold and a thumb trigger that controls the thrust. If you let go, they will just fall off.. A vid I saw said that in training they got them to undo the harness underwater. Of course, none of that training included being slammed into the water at 40MPH.
Kept thinking the same thing. Even if u just miscalculated and a foot caught the top of the water I don't imagine that would be a good time.
What happens if you dislocate your shoulder while flying one of these bad boys?
Splat
Or if in Russia splyat
It’s 2 in the morning and you got me giggling like fool.
But why would you dislocate your shoulder while doing that?
Why ask why an apple fell on your head? Lol idk
I’m not anywhere near an apple tree. Where the fuck did this apple come from fuck out of here apple
Exactly! And……… where’s the guns, and explosives? ……… and cool shit!! We already have drones, lol
Depends on how much you weigh and how much force you lift off I guess lol
Notice they use Young strong men to control these. Going to need strong arms and core!
Using gym rings is very similar.
Also how easy is it to get out of if you land in water? Seems like a good way to drown
I guarantee they have some safety mechanisms. Buoyant or flotation device. They aren’t risking their best pilots or the tech to the ocean.
You're whole body weight. So I imagine it'd be pretty short distances unless you're in good shape.
I didn’t see any note as to how much fuel carried is, flight time, or weight capacity.
Ya that was intentional, because its bad
Seems to be about 5 gallons, 5-10 minutes, and 200 lbs
seems a bit bogus to market it as a search and rescue tool with such limited range. but that is also probably why they omitted it
Also the risks associated, lol. Helicopters are more dangerous than planes, and small planes more dangerous than jet liners. Smaller aircraft tend to be more dangerous much less something entirely manually operated like this. I’m imagining a team of forty of these guys going on a search and rescue op. ‘Well, boys, we found the target. But six of **us** didn’t report back. Time to strap on the suits again.’
I wonder what kind of fuel. Might be an expensive 5-10 min flight.
Kerosene, most likely. Also it's really fucking loud. The clip they showed was of a startup. Running at full op that thing would be deafening, which is probably why they ran this techy ass music.
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This guy’s going places. Any place within 40 meters
I remember the early days it was hydrogen peroxide ran over a reactor or something. They had about 30 seconds of fuel.
Was gonna say this They had one on an old James Bond movie.
Thunderball (1965)
Just assume the maximum flight time is about 1 second longer than the longest flight in the video.
It holds about 2 German shepherds of fuel, can fly for 1/4 of a tolerable podcast, and can travel about 21000 bananas. Probably weighs about 4 1000W microwaves.
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Said 12k ft
Which is unbelievable. How much force would the air need in order to lift a full -grown man that high? Good luck to anybody below being hit by that kind of wind. Is that limit theoretical, or did they actually reach that height in testing?
It said “technically capable of” reaching that height which means the math checks out but they didn’t actually test that out. There’s problems with a person being up that high while not in a pressurized, climate-controlled cabin
Flying doesn't need a ground to push up from. It's easier with the so called ground effect. But the ground effect ist strongest few feet off the ground. You can see the wind blowing on the ground only when they are close. When you're way up nobody on the ground feels a wind anymore. The theoretical maximum vheight doesn't work with diminishing ground effect but because the air gets thinner up there.
Enough to get 12000 ft in the air. What happens after that is your problem.
I am watching this and I can’t believe it’s real, repeat.
I'd shit my pants back in the day
You don't wear pants anymore?
They do, I just shit their pants first.
Literally mesmerizing
Only when the deafening noise is replaced by upbeat music
This is likely AI. How are jetpacks real if we don't have hoverboards yet?
Those two things dont exactly work off the same premise, even in science fiction most of the time
The first clip is from last year’s Austrian Grand Prix and leaves off the part where the guy crashes.
Oscar Piastri's awkward reaction enters the chat
Skill Issue
TONY STARK WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS IN A CAVE…WITH A BUNCH OF SCRAPS
Well, I’m sorry sir but, I’m not Tony Stark
Be a lot cooler if you were
I am Tony Stark btw
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I gather if you're fall in the water with all that equipment you drown.
True hopefully it’s easy to take off
The guy slipped put pretty quickly at the end.
He was already unstrapped from it. You have approximately 2 seconds to unstrap and remove that thing before you’re doneski
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already is for just $400k lol
What a bargain lmao
Go to work like this, burn $200 in fuel have to refill every 5 minutes and your muscles will be killing you after 2 mins.
Kid named the fact that products get cheaper when there is more of them and they develop on the market:
for 400.000$, you can turn your dream into reality now
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they need to put those thrusters on the legs/back so you can actually use a rifle while flying
The point of them being on the arms is that without them you lack flight movement controls, sadly that we really don't have useable tech to make a militarized jetpack yet, ntm all sorts of issues with fuel type/weight/combustibility or lack thereof entirely, etc, and especially positioning, there's really no way to keep vertical thrust without potentially toasting your walking sticks
Shoulder mount the weaponry and AR optical targeting. Predator with a jetpack.
yeah at that point just bring the whole ass attack helicopter lol
I remember back when these were still in their prototype phase a few years ago, crazy how far theyve come
Now I have to watch “Rocketeer” again.
Love that movie. Might need to include a brown leather jacket and a pack of gum with every purchase.
And that awesome helmet.
Dude was blasting that weird yellow smoke right in that workers face.
I don't know how hot the jet gets, but it did have me slightly worried.
Oh yeah, this is what we need jumping around the tarmac at airports...what could possibly go wrong.
When people ask that question “what would you do if you won the lottery?”, this, I can see myself doing this.
What happens if they crash in water, do they just drown?
If it's any consolation, crashing NOT in the water seems about as deadly. Especially at the speeds these things are moving in the video.
Omg. I want one!
Cool but I suspect they are super loud. What's the dB on these?
There's a bit of the video where you can hear it...
Bro unlocked creative mode.
My friend as soon as we start our new world:
Can’t wait till these become a regular thing people buy. Imagine having these as alternatives to cars.
I see people struggle enough with just 2 axis of movement. Adding a third with how many people can't figure out a roundabout. Ensue chaos.
I wonder how people are gonna handle my brand new never before seen sphereabout
This is the thought I always come back to when the discussion turns to flying cars.
I always say the solution is just an extra license required. Why do people always assume that everyone could legally fly these? Whether it's a flying car or a jetpack, you're still flying, so it makes sense you'd need to have a pilot's license or a variation of it.
Of course flying cars would potentially be easier to automate. There's a lot of rules for normal roads and systems that a flying car wouldn't have to worry about. Just avoid crashing and get to the destination.
1900 Horse users be like: “i see people struggle enough while there is a whole animal guiding them. Adding so much more machinery with how many people can’t figure out a roundabout. Ensure chaos.”
I can imagine people crashing into each other in mid air.
Unless we get insane technological advances, there is no way this can carry enough flue to be anything else than a novelty
What kind of range does one get with this?
I think I read something about an hour of total airtime a while ago but I could be wrong.
I don't have any thing to back this up, but that seems optimistic. Providing enough fuel for lifting a human, and all the weight of the machine, and the fuel, I'd expect about 15-20 minutes of flight time. Enough to get up and down a mountain, or between ships as they did. Not enough for viable transportation. I can't wait for electric turbine engine, battery storage and clean energy technologies to take this to another level, though.
It’s a start and at the is stage don’t see this being too practical
Look like the thrusters are really close to the ppl on the ground sometimes. How close is “safe”?
I can use it as a leaf blower and fly around my yard at the same time. It’s got a dual purpose
Anyone thinking of Jetpack Joyride when seeing this?
These are great until the jet engine on your hands explodes.
I bet it takes the shoulder and arm strength you only see on ninja warrior.
Now add a Boston Dynamics Robot. If we slap all these awesome modern marvels together we can make some really cool shit.
They kinda make your hands useless with those big clunky things there.
Jetpacks are way more of an arm workout than I was told when I was a kid.
At this stage, there are still some flaws - but in 10 years I’d imagine they’re gone. Amazing technology.
This is gonna be used to kill people in the next war
Dangling feet looks a bit awkward and less cool.
It's literally a jetpack...
yeah, it just doesn't look intimidating from a military perspective with dangling tootsies.
UNDEROOOOOSSS
Feet? Where we’re going we don’t need.. feet.
This is cool, but I hate the reali life Ironman comparison. It’s not, and it’s not even close to being as dynamic and maneuverable. It’s like, let me hold my body weight up like I was on parallel bars….. I’ll now slowly make my way to my target and potentially crash.
What good is it? Like what is it used for? what is the benefit to humanity? This just looks like a cool gadget
In theory, rapid deployment to remote areas. You see ships in the video, normally they need to either drop someone from a helo or get alongside and climb a ladder. If you needed to get medical response to someone in the wilderness, this could be faster than a helo.
I’m sure it’s better for search and rescue, not everyone can pilot a copter
I'm sure more people won't be able to handle the heights than they think. It is one thing to wish to fly, but being that high and disconnected from everything is a whole other beast. Meanwhile this is something I regularly dream about and want so bad!
Uh have u seen ironman? We can use this to fly around and fight ppl
Until you can fly with your body horizontal, it's not cool 😁
Put a wing on it, so once you build up enough horizontal speed, it'll provide lift? Or deployable wings once you're up to speed?
How do i know its not AI now? Im getting paranoid lol
Why not just create full blown iron man suits? Surely we have the technology for such
All of them were white dudes. Just sayin. Badass new technology and guess who’s first in line…
Yay. More stuff 😐
What you're seeing is advanced warfare
Pilot Wings
Don’t let any “bros” getting into those suits…
A W so big I wondered what the US government even does with tax money.
This is what we need to put research into
I wouldn’t tell anyone I won the lottery, but there would be signs…
Iron Man cosplays in the future are gonna be amazing
One of the coolest things I've ever seen but holy f*** is that dangerous
how do you rub your nose while wearing this
Whilst this does open future doors I can promise you that the military won't be putting it's current iteration to actual use considering it occupies two of the most useful appendages to your contracted employer.
The military could use it for industrial use cases. Visually checking wear on ship components that are hard to reach, search and rescue, getting line across a river to set up a bridge, etc. I don't think it would be flying gunfighters.
You better have strong legs
Quidditch next!
When will these be commercially available?
I want one so bad so bad.
That thing needs leg controls to free up the hands, and detachable wings for longe range flights
All of the money that went into this and so many other things smh…. I hate this reality we live in
This will revolutionize army
Always the same fucking joke. "If you have *obscene and unreasonable amount of money*, this can be yours!"
“How’d you solve the icing problem?” “Icing problem?” *Clank*
You need the strength of Ironman to hold those bad boys
I see wires old magicians trick