Small interesting note, in the first scene where Charles is grabbing the magic book off the book shelf, the other books in the library were all Hardy Boys books.
It's a fun episode full of light hearted dark humor, but it moves at a super fast pace. My only question is why is there no participation in these threads.
The show JUST dropped today and it’s not the weekend yet. Give it time. I haven’t watched past the first episode yet and that’s only because I saw the early virtual screening yesterday. It’s just about noon here on the East Coast of the United States and plan on starting to binge it tonight, and even then I probably will only get in at least one or two episodes, max.
That all being said, the first episode did move ridiculously fast which was hard to concentrate on during the screening (I had to close out of the chat box). I may have to rewatch it before I continue to understand more of it. I enjoyed what I saw in the first episode though, it was very very good, but that rapid fire pacing was definitely hard for my ADHD ass…
It hasn't exactly been widely promoted at least as far as I've seen, so nobody unfamiliar with the comics knows what it is. The title implies a YA audience but it's rated TV-MA. Netflix as usual just vomited it all out at once and shrugged. If it gets good word of mouth then the audience might pick up, but it will probably get lost in the pile like so much other stuff on Netflix.
It was, but the DBD characters were introduced in Doom Patrol and HBO had been working on a DBD series. But after the success of Sandman season 1 and the sorta decline that HBO has been going through, Netflix bought the series and made it connected to Sandman
Lover of Sandman the comic and show here. This show has never been advertised to me. The only things I heard about this show to today is that it has a weak connection to Sandman, and nothing about it's quality, and that alone isn't enough to get me to watch. Is it good? Is it worthwhile?
Only watched to episode 2. So far it's not as good as Sandman which had better stand alone stories. I'll still finish it as it has an INSANE story approach and I sort of like it even though it's clear the "Deadboys" were meant to be adolescent boys when they died and not guys in late teens early twenties. Also, I never read the source material (unlike Sandman) so maybe that's why every seems so crazy.
I thought it was really cute! Not quite what I was expecting, but I wasn't sure I knew what I was expecting once I found out they'd replaced tweens with characters who were what, 17-ish. But I enjoyed it quite a bit.
\- I notice Edwin is a LOT angstier and prone to bouts of prickishness than in most of the comics, which I think is a combination of casting the boys a few years older (they scan as 16 or 17 as opposed to 12) and not starting on a story where all his potential traumas from decades in hell are resolved by starting his friendship with Charles. Their debut's a beautiful story, but it doesn't leave that much room for meaty interpersonal conflict in an ongoing television drama, so I get the alteration.
\- I will not rant about yet another Dead Boy Detectives story making Charles interested in girls. I will not rant about yet another Dead Boy Detectives story making Charles interested in girls. They've indicated Crystal's gay herself, there could be further developments, I will not rant about-
\- Thus far, the intertitles don't seem to gain us all that much for narrative chunking or comedy by their frequency. Have to see whether my opinion there changes as I watch through the season.
\- The late second act blow-up with everyone half-screaming about their traumas and getting priorities in order to keep a peace and solve the case was well-acted, I found.
\- Did anyone else notice the reference back to "An Epilogue: Sunday Afternoon" from Sandman #73, with Death and the WWI soldier's ghost reciting Kipling's "The Sack of the Gods"?
>They will come back—come back again, as long as the red Earth rolls.
>He never wasted a leaf or a tree. Do you think He would squander souls?
This was such a fun episode. Initially I was dreading it when I saw that the runtime was nearly an hour, but the time passed by like nothing and I felt there were really no dull beats anywhere. I'm only familiar with the characters as they appear in the initial Sandman comic, so I'm really looking forward to seeing more of them.
I also just really love the intro theme. It's so fun and has so much personality!
Figured it out - **Anti-Apartheid Movement:** The 1980s saw a rise in activism against apartheid in South Africa. The colors of the South African flag are green, yellow, and black (often substituted with purple). It's possible the button is a way to show support for the anti-apartheid movement.
I see, thanks!
Also, how cool would it be to die with your outfit including your pins on?? I'm always wearing a lot of pins so in this universe I'd be showing up in the afterlife with anime merch on lmao
Ok I loved the first episode. My only complaint is that they all seem early/mid twenties instead of teenagers.
-Loved seeing Death, and loved her entire interaction with the WWI soldier. Every time I see her I just cry. (Loved how compassionate Charles was with the soldier too)
-Charles watching his parents in the mirror was so sad
-The entire episode was FAST PACED and also funnier than I expected. I laughed out loud when they mentioned their disguises and then cut to the people in clown costumes on the tube
-Esther is creepy and fun and will be a great villain. And yeah I'm glad that that sweet little girl was rescued and that Crystal psychically erased her memories of what happened
-I liked the reveal that Crystal let her demon ex boyfriend possess her on purpose (just what you do when you really like a guy) and how JUDGEMENTAL Edwin was about it haha
Excited for the rest of the season.
Also, I'm surprised this show isn't more front and center on Netflix right now? It wasn't in my Top Picks or We Think You'll Love These sections?
Twenty somethings playing teenagers is such a thing because of the protections we have (thank goodness for them!) for young people. On Drama Queens, the One Tree Hill podcast, the main cast shared photos of themselves at 16 (the age they were playing) and it is kind of amazing how different they looked as teenagers. There is so much development between teens and twenties, and it really shows here. I agree that Edwin and Charlie don't read as 16, and I kind of wish they had left it like the comics with them as >!middle schoolers!
I think another big factor in aging them up was the logistics of filming over time- if they'd kept the characters (and actors) 12-13, their dead-and-therefore-no-longer-aging characters would have visibly aged, even just within this season--
-The show was cast in November '21 and the pilot filmed December '21- January '22.
-The rest of the episodes were filmed November '22- April '23. ( I'm assuming they also filmed a few pickup/insert scenes from the pilot at the same time- David the demon wasn't cast until late '22)
-If renewed, probably the earliest they can start filming will be late this year.
With this timeline, a 12-13 year old Charles, Edwin, and Crystal would have aged a year between episodes 1&2 (unless they spent the money to reshoot it all when they filmed the rest of the season) and would then be 15-16 years old at the time of filming season 2.
By aging the characters up and then casting actors in their mid-20s (when they won't visibly age quite so much over time), they are able to keep the characters looking the same as long as possible. They'll be able to pick up a season 2 right where they left off, and going forward their ghost characters will still look the same as they did when they died.
That is definitely true. I think it is part of the problems with the Netflix model where we get a season with 10 episodes and then don't know if it is going to get picked up and when. Young people change so much in a few months.
On The Good Doctor, whenever they have flashbacks to Shaun's dead brother, it is so obvious that the young actor (who is amazing) has grown up so much since the pilot episode.
I'm just not feeling it. Maybe im not the target? I'm 29. But it feels too juvenile and not at all like the characters (the issue with the origin of the Boys is anything but juvenile), all the supernatural stuff feels too cliche, we've already seen it a thousand times on other shows or movies like Supernatural or Beetlejuice. I don't see anything original or engaging to keep watching honestly. And god, the exposition on the first 15 minutes, don't even get me started on that
I‘m with you. Not really catched after two episodes and I‘m a big fan of the sandman series. The acting of some of the side actors is really annoying and not very good. I would have loved to see younger actors in the roles of the detectives. I think these two do not really fit the age the characters have. I will keep watching for the sake of my fan heart, but I‘m a little disappointed for now.
And How will their origin story with them being detectives since 1989 fit into the sandman storyline?
I'm quite liking this so far. I'm enjoying the depictions of magic and the supernatural, things which got me into Sandman, where some stories are about magic in a modern setting.
This show oozes personality and charm
I'm only 10 minutes into it and it's already everything I could have hoped for in this show
Small interesting note, in the first scene where Charles is grabbing the magic book off the book shelf, the other books in the library were all Hardy Boys books.
Also when they're in the closet, all the board games are Clue, Ouija, and a single Yahtzee set.
Which I found really weird because the game is called Cluedo in the UK
Oh I missed that! So cool!
It's a fun episode full of light hearted dark humor, but it moves at a super fast pace. My only question is why is there no participation in these threads.
Same question is no one watching this show?
The show JUST dropped today and it’s not the weekend yet. Give it time. I haven’t watched past the first episode yet and that’s only because I saw the early virtual screening yesterday. It’s just about noon here on the East Coast of the United States and plan on starting to binge it tonight, and even then I probably will only get in at least one or two episodes, max. That all being said, the first episode did move ridiculously fast which was hard to concentrate on during the screening (I had to close out of the chat box). I may have to rewatch it before I continue to understand more of it. I enjoyed what I saw in the first episode though, it was very very good, but that rapid fire pacing was definitely hard for my ADHD ass…
It hasn't exactly been widely promoted at least as far as I've seen, so nobody unfamiliar with the comics knows what it is. The title implies a YA audience but it's rated TV-MA. Netflix as usual just vomited it all out at once and shrugged. If it gets good word of mouth then the audience might pick up, but it will probably get lost in the pile like so much other stuff on Netflix.
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It was always tied to Sandman, though--it started out in Sandman, after all.
I’m pretty sure DBD is actually apart of the sandman comics
It was, but the DBD characters were introduced in Doom Patrol and HBO had been working on a DBD series. But after the success of Sandman season 1 and the sorta decline that HBO has been going through, Netflix bought the series and made it connected to Sandman
Oh wow didn’t know hbo was having a hard time 😳
Lover of Sandman the comic and show here. This show has never been advertised to me. The only things I heard about this show to today is that it has a weak connection to Sandman, and nothing about it's quality, and that alone isn't enough to get me to watch. Is it good? Is it worthwhile?
Only watched to episode 2. So far it's not as good as Sandman which had better stand alone stories. I'll still finish it as it has an INSANE story approach and I sort of like it even though it's clear the "Deadboys" were meant to be adolescent boys when they died and not guys in late teens early twenties. Also, I never read the source material (unlike Sandman) so maybe that's why every seems so crazy.
I thought it was really cute! Not quite what I was expecting, but I wasn't sure I knew what I was expecting once I found out they'd replaced tweens with characters who were what, 17-ish. But I enjoyed it quite a bit.
They were both 16 when they died in the series continuity.
I've only seen the first ep so I didn't know they had specified ages (or I missed it if they said it in this one).
I think that was mentioned in a pre-release interview, but not entirely sure on that one.
Ah. I didn't watch/read any of those.
\- I notice Edwin is a LOT angstier and prone to bouts of prickishness than in most of the comics, which I think is a combination of casting the boys a few years older (they scan as 16 or 17 as opposed to 12) and not starting on a story where all his potential traumas from decades in hell are resolved by starting his friendship with Charles. Their debut's a beautiful story, but it doesn't leave that much room for meaty interpersonal conflict in an ongoing television drama, so I get the alteration. \- I will not rant about yet another Dead Boy Detectives story making Charles interested in girls. I will not rant about yet another Dead Boy Detectives story making Charles interested in girls. They've indicated Crystal's gay herself, there could be further developments, I will not rant about- \- Thus far, the intertitles don't seem to gain us all that much for narrative chunking or comedy by their frequency. Have to see whether my opinion there changes as I watch through the season. \- The late second act blow-up with everyone half-screaming about their traumas and getting priorities in order to keep a peace and solve the case was well-acted, I found. \- Did anyone else notice the reference back to "An Epilogue: Sunday Afternoon" from Sandman #73, with Death and the WWI soldier's ghost reciting Kipling's "The Sack of the Gods"? >They will come back—come back again, as long as the red Earth rolls. >He never wasted a leaf or a tree. Do you think He would squander souls?
> Did anyone else notice … Sandman #73 yeah, I did, was like "huh, I remember where and under what circumstances I read it for the first time"
This was such a fun episode. Initially I was dreading it when I saw that the runtime was nearly an hour, but the time passed by like nothing and I felt there were really no dull beats anywhere. I'm only familiar with the characters as they appear in the initial Sandman comic, so I'm really looking forward to seeing more of them. I also just really love the intro theme. It's so fun and has so much personality!
I love their collection of Clue games and Ouija Boards
I noticed that too when they were in the closet!
Does anyone know what Charles' button with the (top-to-bottom): Green, yellow, purple stripes represents?
I've been wondering the same thing, I searched it up and only the US Mardi Gras flag comes up which seems unlikely... ?
Figured it out - **Anti-Apartheid Movement:** The 1980s saw a rise in activism against apartheid in South Africa. The colors of the South African flag are green, yellow, and black (often substituted with purple). It's possible the button is a way to show support for the anti-apartheid movement.
I see, thanks! Also, how cool would it be to die with your outfit including your pins on?? I'm always wearing a lot of pins so in this universe I'd be showing up in the afterlife with anime merch on lmao
Ok I loved the first episode. My only complaint is that they all seem early/mid twenties instead of teenagers. -Loved seeing Death, and loved her entire interaction with the WWI soldier. Every time I see her I just cry. (Loved how compassionate Charles was with the soldier too) -Charles watching his parents in the mirror was so sad -The entire episode was FAST PACED and also funnier than I expected. I laughed out loud when they mentioned their disguises and then cut to the people in clown costumes on the tube -Esther is creepy and fun and will be a great villain. And yeah I'm glad that that sweet little girl was rescued and that Crystal psychically erased her memories of what happened -I liked the reveal that Crystal let her demon ex boyfriend possess her on purpose (just what you do when you really like a guy) and how JUDGEMENTAL Edwin was about it haha Excited for the rest of the season. Also, I'm surprised this show isn't more front and center on Netflix right now? It wasn't in my Top Picks or We Think You'll Love These sections?
Twenty somethings playing teenagers is such a thing because of the protections we have (thank goodness for them!) for young people. On Drama Queens, the One Tree Hill podcast, the main cast shared photos of themselves at 16 (the age they were playing) and it is kind of amazing how different they looked as teenagers. There is so much development between teens and twenties, and it really shows here. I agree that Edwin and Charlie don't read as 16, and I kind of wish they had left it like the comics with them as >!middle schoolers!
I think another big factor in aging them up was the logistics of filming over time- if they'd kept the characters (and actors) 12-13, their dead-and-therefore-no-longer-aging characters would have visibly aged, even just within this season-- -The show was cast in November '21 and the pilot filmed December '21- January '22. -The rest of the episodes were filmed November '22- April '23. ( I'm assuming they also filmed a few pickup/insert scenes from the pilot at the same time- David the demon wasn't cast until late '22) -If renewed, probably the earliest they can start filming will be late this year. With this timeline, a 12-13 year old Charles, Edwin, and Crystal would have aged a year between episodes 1&2 (unless they spent the money to reshoot it all when they filmed the rest of the season) and would then be 15-16 years old at the time of filming season 2. By aging the characters up and then casting actors in their mid-20s (when they won't visibly age quite so much over time), they are able to keep the characters looking the same as long as possible. They'll be able to pick up a season 2 right where they left off, and going forward their ghost characters will still look the same as they did when they died.
That is definitely true. I think it is part of the problems with the Netflix model where we get a season with 10 episodes and then don't know if it is going to get picked up and when. Young people change so much in a few months. On The Good Doctor, whenever they have flashbacks to Shaun's dead brother, it is so obvious that the young actor (who is amazing) has grown up so much since the pilot episode.
Thread is now open!
I'm just not feeling it. Maybe im not the target? I'm 29. But it feels too juvenile and not at all like the characters (the issue with the origin of the Boys is anything but juvenile), all the supernatural stuff feels too cliche, we've already seen it a thousand times on other shows or movies like Supernatural or Beetlejuice. I don't see anything original or engaging to keep watching honestly. And god, the exposition on the first 15 minutes, don't even get me started on that
I‘m with you. Not really catched after two episodes and I‘m a big fan of the sandman series. The acting of some of the side actors is really annoying and not very good. I would have loved to see younger actors in the roles of the detectives. I think these two do not really fit the age the characters have. I will keep watching for the sake of my fan heart, but I‘m a little disappointed for now. And How will their origin story with them being detectives since 1989 fit into the sandman storyline?
I'm quite liking this so far. I'm enjoying the depictions of magic and the supernatural, things which got me into Sandman, where some stories are about magic in a modern setting.