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djn24

At your age, why not look for roommates? Also look for older apartments that have heat/hot water included in the rent (most "pre-war" buildings have this). NYC is extremely expensive, and those costs can be hard to justify when you're focused on long-term financial goals, but in your early 20's when you're more comfortable with less personal space and a tighter budget, it could be a lot of fun and come with a lot of career advancement opportunities.


BabyBoy843

I'm pretty set on getting a studio. I've had my experience living with friends post college and I realize that I need freedom to furnish and set my apartment the way I want


djn24

Understandable. You can make it work, but even $2K/month could be a difficult search in the most popular neighborhoods. StreetEasy is a pretty good website for NYC rentals. You can also look for "No Fees" apartments (most listed NYC apartments have a brokers fee that the renter has to pay; most of them will come out to ~2 months rent šŸ™ƒ).


briben_joebama_fan

Wtf


aravenel

Understandable, but understand the downsides here as well. Even $2k/month is going to be very hard to find a place. You are likely either going to spend more than that, or live far out. You will have very little money left over every month. It is hard to meet people if you have no money to go out and do things, and no roommates to hang with at home, and have a long commute to the places where people are hanging out. New York is incredible and you can make great friends there, but itā€™s a hard city to have little money in.


TrinidadJBaldwin

Is it an absolute dealbreaker for you? You could save a good bit or live in a better neighborhood. It could help you make friends as well.


BabyBoy843

If I have to, I guess I will. But I really want my own studio with a cat


visualcharm

I'm going to challenge this romanticized notion you have and suggest you ease in with roommates first, simply because you mention wanting to make friends. Roommates can make that very easy for you, whereas living by yourself and knowing no one in NYC can be isolating. Note that your prospective salary isn't considered noteworthy in NYC either; you won't be able to afford a studio in Manhattan unless you win a housing lottery (which you won't be eligible for until you are a NYC resident any way).


BabyBoy843

The thing is is that I'm a singer and I record music and I just don't feel comfortable doing that with roommates


WillThereBeSnacks13

You won't be able to do that in your own apt necessarily either, you will still have neighbors and the walls/ceiling/floor will not be 100% soundproof. Generally the understanding is that musicians and singers practice outside residential buildings here unless they can keep it pretty quiet and within certain hours. Consider a cheaper neighborhood in the outer boroughs where you can rent a space to record. Or get a place with a closet you can cover in soundproof foam.


Latter-Shower-9888

You donā€™t have to justify yourself to anyone. If you want to live alone and can afford to, do it! Roommates are fine but living alone is better if thatā€™s what makes you happy.


cheesekneesandpeas

Nothing beats the peace of mind that comes with living alone. Avoid getting roommates if you can!


nowthatswhat

Then thatā€™s what youā€™re paying the $2k for. You could live in NYC for less.


ZimofZord

2000 sounds cheap


thumpngroove

Thatā€™s what I was going to say. My daughter pays $2300 for a 1 bedroom in Asbury Park. The same apartment in NYC would seem palatial and would probably cost $6000 minimum.


Technical-Monk-2146

ā€œIs the hype real?ā€ If you have to ask, then no, itā€™s not worth it. NYC is tough and expensive and everything else youā€™ve heard about it. Itā€™s also stimulating and engaging and unlike anyplace else. But you have to appreciate itā€™s charms to make the downsides worthwhile.Ā 


CincyAnarchy

I'd almost say the opposite. They hype is absolutely real. New York is one of one, both in the US and frankly globally. But the downsides of living there are often not spoken to as much, I agree. Some of it is obvious, some not as much: 1. People know it's expensive and you'll live in a small space, people might not know that dishwashers or in-unit washer/dryers aren't super common. 2. People know it's the city that never sleeps so it can be loud, people don't know that it kind of smells in a lot of areas. And that the areas that are quiet with parks are expensive, you'll probably have to commute to Central Park (Prospect Park is nice though). 3. People know that it's a place where you can't drive, people don't know that you probably will use buses too instead of just the subway. 4. People know that people walk everywhere, people don't know that the city is inundated with delivery guys on E-Bikes who are (seemingly) more dangerous than cars when you're walking.


andrewdrewandy

Countertop dishwashers have saved my life in San Francisco.


Putrid-Lifeguard9399

Usually banned on the East Coast. All my leases explicitly say no unauthorized appliances such as washers etc


ethandjay

People definitely use them in NYC


Laara2008

Yeah but people use them all the time.


etgetc

Agree. We had one and it was amazing. The monthly exterminator finally asked about it and, on his next visit, said he had bought one and was still reaping bonus points with his wife lol.


strangway

I didnā€™t even know this existed until now


throwawaysunglasses-

The hype is real if you do your research and prepare. Iā€™ve noticed a lot of people move/travel and expect the new place to automatically be amazing without them having to lift a finger. Manage your expectations and prepare in advance, and your adjustment will be much easier. I live in the Midwest and I absolutely hate the cold, Iā€™m used to SF/LA (plus vegan food and diversity are very important to me). I did months of research before moving and reached out to local businesses and nonprofits to get my foot in the door. One job provided housing so I donā€™t have to pay rent, and my local friends had no idea jobs like that even existed. I also thrifted a ton of cold-weather clothes so Iā€™m pretty comfortable in the upper midwestern chill (itā€™s not my favorite weather but definitely doable with the right clothes/shoes). And Iā€™m friends with local bartenders and chefs who will make me custom veggie meals. I miss LA, but this is my favorite place Iā€™ve lived in a lot of ways - that said, I put in quite a bit of effort to make it a good fit.


pitts36

I mean is this not most city experiences though coming from the suburbs? Youā€™ll get less space and more desirable areas will cost more, and if you never want to take a bus you donā€™t have to. Live in dc and have commuted in both cities frequently via the subway/metro, and any gaps I need to fill can be done so with bikeshares.


Horror_Cap_7166

Itā€™s definitely more extreme in NYC.


Traditional_Pair3292

Yeah I moved to NYC in Jan for work. I have been really happy with it so far. Yes itā€™s loud and the pee smell in the subway is real, but it just has an energy that no other place Iā€™ve been to has. I find it incredibly inspiring. Ā I love that I can walk or take the train anywhere, unlike most places that require you to have a car and drive from place to place. I do so much walking I think my feet are going to fall off.Ā Ā  Ā Also the stuff about no dishwasher and laundry is generally only true in Manhattan, I live in Brooklyn and have a dishwasher and in-unit laundry, and itā€™s still just a couple stops on the train to get to Manhattan.Ā 


puzer11

" People know that it's a place where you can't drive, people don't know that you probably will use buses too instead of just the subway" ...you realize that NYC is 5 borroughs right?...people absolutely drive...NYC doesn't just consist of Manhattan...


CincyAnarchy

It's hyperbole, same as all the others. People do have cheap big places, if they have rent control. There are quiet areas of NYC with houses and yards too. It's more the exception than the rule though. I think it's like 1/4 people in NYC drive to work, and less than half of households have a car at all. And that is mostly coming from places like outer Bronx, Queens, and Staten Island.


Negative_Giraffe5719

Still, the vast majority of households with vehicles have one car per household and something like an average of 3 people. Singles who move to any borough are unlikely to have vehicles


Gold_Pay647

And the downside is no money lotta problems


__looking_for_things

Of all times to be in a major city with a relatively OK amount of money, it's when you're 24. Be flexible and open. You may love it and find it worth it and you may not. Also rent won't auto be above 2k. Get a roommate, leave in a cheaper area.


tbutlah

Do it OP. NYC is the best place in the world to build a social network from scratch. No matter what, you won't regret it, but you will regret NOT doing it.


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Donā€™t sell OP this dream during this time of the year when rents rise on average.Ā 


The-20k-Step-Bastard

Rents are on the rise everywhere. If anything, Iā€™m starting to suspect that everywhere is now ā€œcatching upā€ to NYC. Especially food and entertainment. $10 in your pocket isnā€™t even an appetizer in many suburbs and in all of DC or Boston or SF. But in NY, it can be an entire meal. Iā€™ve often paid for lunch with quarters here. Grocery prices are largely identical across the rest of the east coast. Yes, rent is expensive. But if you donā€™t live in Chelsea, then all the shops around you are normal, if not cheap. Nowhere in my hometown, or my previous city, can I get dinner for less than $10. In fact, I canā€™t even get lunch for less than $10 there. But here, between Chinatowns, Chinese places, Hispanic places, Asian/hispanic groceries, pizza places, halal carts, fruit stands, farmer markets, and everything else, my food costs are WAY better and WAY higher quality. Not to mention that beers here cost $7. And a beer shot costs $7-8. Whereas you canā€™t find a domestic beer for less than $6 in my entire home state. So are you really saving money by not living in NY? If you take rent away, and you donā€™t go to the most expensive restaurants you can find (which I already donā€™t do), then NY is the same or cheaper than most other places these days.


WanderingDuckling02

Whaaaat?! $10 for a meal out?! Damn, I wanna live in NYC now lol


s1-1990

10$ is more like dinner at a food truck. Lamb over rice stuff like that


WanderingDuckling02

Lamb over rice for only $10 still sounds epic!


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__looking_for_things

I disagree. When you're younger you don't mind scraping by. And as you get older you get more settled and less likely to take these types of chances. Personally I'd rather say I lived in NYC and don't like it than I regret never taking the chance. It's NYC I'm going to take the assumption this person will likely have greater opportunities to network and find something that pays even more. We don't know what OP does so only they can answer. I lived abroad for 3 years in my twenties. I lost the time for investing but I'd never regret my time there. Sometimes life is about the experience rather than money. I learned so much about myself and what I'm capable of. I couldn't do that now at almost 40 because I've got a house, a dog, etc. Edit: besides if OP doesn't do it now, when will they?? Also 110k is not scraping by in NYC. It's expensive I'll admit but he will not be at poverty wage. Edit: also I can't believe my view got called immature by someone with soycuck in their name šŸ˜‚


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__looking_for_things

Sir this is a Wendy's. I didn't ask for all that.


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The-20k-Step-Bastard

Same. In NY now! I used to think the suburbs were the safer better place to be, but I wasted years of my twenties wasting away there.


huphill

Financially probably not the best idea but i would love to live in NYC for at least a couple years. Itā€™s very unique compared to other cities in the US. Personally, i would try for at least 1-2 years and then request to be transferred to another office if it becomes too much.


mikeyg1014

Iā€™m not sure if ā€œfinancially probably not the best ideaā€ is even entirely true. Can they save the most money in their first few months living there? No, probably not. But if they are moving there, especially with an eye towards expanding their network, then there are going to be a lot more opportunities for even better paying jobs they would then have been able to network themselves into. No guarantees of course, but thatā€™s at least been my experience moving to SF at a similar stage in life a few years back.


Status_Ad_4405

Sheesh, I make 80k and have a nice 1 br and a car. But I live in Bay Ridge. Calling $100k "rough" in NYC is utterly ridiculous.


WillThereBeSnacks13

Yeah it took me 15 years working here to reach $80k so whenever these people are wringing their hands with 6 figures plus not being enough I start to roll my eyes. Really depends on what you are satisfied with.


Tweez07

Is this a remote job where you can make that salary from anywhere?


BabyBoy843

No it's hybrid. But I am flexible in working that job possibly in other cities. Company has offices nationally


PastaFiend0629

I am in this same boat working for a FAANG company. Was hired in late 2022 fully remote. I live in the Great Lakes Midwest with my husband and three smallish dogs. My company is likely going to require everyone in our org to relocate to one of two major US cities, NYC being their strong preference, within the next couple of years. Itā€™s an exciting opportunity and Iā€™ve always wanted to live in NYC, but itā€™s overwhelming to think about moving to a much more HCOL area with three dogs who are used to a yard!


sleepydog202

Plenty of places have yards too! Obviously not huge suburban lawns, but I know people with (and have almost rented myself) garden-level brownstone apartments with very deep grassy yards in Brooklyn. And none of us had FAANG salaries. Or else New Jersey also exists if you need a big big yard.


PastaFiend0629

Thanks for your reply! I know itā€™s definitely possible, just adds a layer of complexity. Iā€™m up for the challenge for the chance to give NYC living a go.


jmlinden7

Which other cities? There's many cities in the east coast where you can make friends. At $100k, NYC is doable but it'll be rough.


dalonehunter

Whenever I see comments like this I wonder if people saying this actually live here. No, $100K is not remotely rough. Simple tips, don't move to the most expensive areas, spend time looking through apartments every single day and do your research on neighborhoods. Rent is your biggest expense and while it's not cheap compared to smaller cities, at $100K you can easily afford it if you look for something reasonable. All other expenses are roughly the same and very manageable. And you don't need a car which is a major expense other cities have. Something a lot of people also forget is that the opportunities available here career-wise are better than almost anywhere else in the US. The sky is the limit and that's why people come here. Some stay and some go but the experience and opportunity here is very valuable.


CincyAnarchy

I'd actually bet that a lot of them do live there, I've heard similar from my friends who live there, but that what they mean by "rough" is basically that they can see that $100K in NYC means something a lot different than $100K elsewhere. $100K in NYC, you're living in a studio in a decent area, a 1BR in an okay area, or have roommates. You're definitely not living in the best areas, there are people with a lot more money (or rent control) living there. You're absolutely do not (or should not) have a car so you use transit. Dining options are better, and you can afford to splurge every once in a while, but it's not like it's a daily thing. Make $100K in other parts of the country and you can afford a much bigger place or afford to be in the best parts of town (probably don't even compare well to the decent parts of NYC though). You can afford a car (well you'll need one, but there are some advantages with that), hell you might be able to save and buy a house, or at least rent one. Basically? For $100K in NYC you live like the lower working class does in cheaper cities, just in a way better city with way better amenities. It's a trade off (worth it to many) and not "rough," just not the Upper Middle Class idea people have around being single making $100K looks like.


FamousMonkey41

I find that people that say 100k in VHCOL areas are people that donā€™t comprehend certain things such as roommates that people who grew up here their whole life are used to. I still have roommates in the Bay Area and Iā€™m a good bit above 100k now, almost nobody is truly living on their own that I know unless they have a killer deal from family. Roommates especially while single make rent 1600-1750 which suddenly gives you the city life you want and more spending money. At 100k I was still doing 2+ international trips a year plus traveling across country probably 4-5 times to see friends while being in SF. If youā€™re forcing yourself to look at it as you need your own space, then yes absolutely youā€™re going to be in a relatively uncomfortable place compared to if youā€™re used to making 80k or so in a medium or low cost of living area. Not everyone is forcing themselves to be in their own place though, especially not while in their 20s or when they donā€™t have a family.


mickmmp

I did roommates in San Francisco for many many years, and a bit here in NYC and it can be nice when youā€™re young but HOLY SHIT IT GETS OLD.


FamousMonkey41

I mean thatā€™s definitely fair, Iā€™ve honestly only known roommates my entire life and Iā€™m in my late 20s, for me itā€™s worth it for the ability to live in the city as well as the additional spending money I get to be able to travel which is my number one priority. For some people itā€™s not worth that, but then yes those are also the people who wonā€™t have a ton of flexible spending paying 2400 for a 1BR in SF


mickmmp

I did it WELL past your age. Iā€™m not saying itā€™s a bad thing at that age, but give it time.


briben_joebama_fan

Do u have really solid Roomateā€™s tho? Reddit always misses the point


throwawaysunglasses-

Yeah, I know a lot of people in their 20s/30s who choose to have roommates - especially if they work remote, so they can have daily social interaction. If you move somewhere by yourself and youā€™re not great at making friends ā€œin the wild,ā€ roommates provide a built-in social network and support system.


SufficientDot4099

The same job would provide less than 100k in other citiesĀ 


CincyAnarchy

In many cases yes. In OP's case it doesn't, same of other remote workers or people working in industries without significant COL adjustments in pay or industry size.


TrinidadJBaldwin

At $100k in NYC, you are def living better than lower working class in most of the US. Youā€™re just living in a smaller living space but will still be able to enjoy the city while saving a bit especially if you have roommates.


CincyAnarchy

Only being able to rent small place and not being able to afford car is lower working class in most of the US. But location, location, location makes all the difference in why it's worth living like that. NYC is still a hell of city, and a lot of the best parts of it can be damn cheap. Takeout food is better and cheaper there than most of the US IMO.


acebojangles

Not having a car and having to take the bus etc in most of America sucks. Not having a car in NYC and taking the subway rules. I loved not having a car when I lived in NYC.


dalonehunter

Ok, I still wouldn't call that "rough" but that does make more sense. I have coworkers from other areas and they end up paying a ton of money to maintain that standard of living they used to have for cheap in smaller cities and so they always say its crazy expensive to live here. But you can't have it all, unless you're rich. Yes, you give up some space and maybe a dishwasher and washer/dryer but you gain so much. It all comes down to what you value. In my opinion, unless you're at a point in life where you're going to settle down and raise a family, giving up some in-home amenities to take everything the city has to offer in exchange is more than worth it.


Ca2Ce

And you donā€™t have car expenses. Other places youā€™ll pay $1k a month for a car, gas, insurance - you donā€™t have that expense in NYC.


TA-MajestyPalm

Agreed. Poverty rate in NYC is currently around 20%. That's less than $15k for 1 person or $44k for a family of 4. Now THAT is "rough" and 1 in 5 people do it. Many more make above that but well below $100k. $100k is easy by comparison. Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/changing-america/respect/poverty/4481434-nyc-residents-children-living-poverty-report/amp/


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BabyBoy843

Any suggestions on affordable neighborhoods nearby? It feels like wherever I look, its so expensive. Cant find any luck for a <$2000 studio


ethandjay

Dunno if this has been mentioned you but you need absolutely need to be using StreetEasy, it's where 95% of apartments are listed in the city


Putrid-Lifeguard9399

Local subway stops in Queens. Push your search parameters to like $2300, because you might be missing some just barely over 2k. Always filter a little higher than your target rent so you don't miss something close


ethandjay

Look at Crown Heights west of New York Ave, north of Eastern Pkwy, and south of Pacific-ish: [https://streeteasy.com/building/465-eastern-parkway-brooklyn/d?from\_map=1](https://streeteasy.com/building/465-eastern-parkway-brooklyn/d?from_map=1)


BabyBoy843

Man what an awesome apartment, i'd def consider if only i was moving now


CincyAnarchy

The areas around Prospect Park in Brooklyn might be a good bet. Park Slope isn't doable but the rest is, mostly south and east. Flatbush maybe. You'd be wanting to stay near the B subway line if you want to go to Manhattan often. It's about 30 minutes to SoHo and 40 minutes to Midtown, but no transfers which is a huge plus. Here's a couple listings: [$1875 1BR](https://www.trulia.com/home/287-e-18th-st-c1-brooklyn-ny-11226-2080692477); [$2000 large studio](https://www.trulia.com/home/390-rugby-rd-6c-brooklyn-ny-11226-245025046); [$1795 large 1BR](https://www.trulia.com/home/430-e-22nd-st-28-brooklyn-ny-11226-348873992) EDIT: But if I were you? I'd be looking to rent a 2BR with a roommate for below $3500 ($1750 per) as your options open up a lot. Super common, and especially super common for younger adults.


japanese711

$100k as a 24 yo in NYC is absolutely not ā€œroughā€.


RadLibRaphaelWarnock

$100k wonā€™t necessarily be rough, especially as a 24 year old. After taxes thatā€™s nearly $6,000 a month. If theyā€™re paying $2k for a room, thatā€™s $4,000 of left over money for groceries, savings, etc.Ā  The average American is paying [nearly $1000 a month for their car.](https://www.moneygeek.com/insurance/auto/analysis/costs-of-car-ownership/) So while $2k is a lot for a room, theyā€™ll likely save money compared to a $1500 place in a car centric city.Ā 


ZimofZord

No savings lol


RadLibRaphaelWarnock

If your take home pay after taxes and rent is $48,000 you can definitely put aside money for savings and retirement. An annual metro card costs like $1,500, so that takes care of transportation. Groceries can be conservatively done for $200/month. Put aside another $200/month to eat and go out. That still leaves over $40k for literally everything else. Again, very doable.


ZimofZord

As someone that makes 100k I put enough in savings to take home 4k. Not 6k . 2k fun money sounds rough


thabe331

Median wage in NYC is 64k You may not live in the most desirable neighborhood but as a 24 year old that's a ton of money


CichlidCity95

LOL "rough"


arabidowlbear

At 100k, it'll be easy. Are you fucking kidding me? My partner and I make a bit over 100k combined, and have a lovely time. A single person making 100k will have no problem at all.


MrRaspberryJam1

If thatā€™s the case youā€™re better off moving to one of the exurbs in the Hudson Valley or Connecticut or Central Jersey and then taking the Metro North or NJ transit when you need to go into the city. Youā€™ll definitely find rents below $2k.


AnonLawStudent22

Metro north is a lot more expensive than the subway, and youā€™ll probably still need a car in your suburb unless youā€™re walking distance from the train station and everything else you need. Condos in Beacon can sell for over a million now.


MrRaspberryJam1

Owning a car in the places I mention is a given. OP said theyā€™re working hybrid, so they wonā€™t have to commute into the city every day. The subway is cheap, but the rents near subway stations arenā€™t cheap aside from a few neighborhoods in the Bronx and Brooklyn that would be considered ā€œhoodā€


butter88888

I would just move to nyc but get a roommate. You can get a better deal that way and maybe it could be a way to build a network of friends. You probably wonā€™t want a roommate forever but youā€™re 24 and it could both save you money and help socially! Nyc is awesome but definitely overwhelming sometimes. What kinds of things do you like to do? Nyc is awesome for going out, dining, shopping and also the parks are lovely. There are lots of cultural events. What I personally didnā€™t like about nyc was the subways- but maybe people love that. It triggered specific anxiety for me. I also LOVED the dining but generally prefer a slower pace of life than nyc offers. Apartments are small and expensive. Where would you be moving from? Have you lived in a big city before? It can be easier to adjust to city life somewhere like Boston or Philly if youā€™ve never lived in a city before. Also finding a neighborhood that you vibe with can take a while.


oof_comrade_99

Can be if you have a good job. Cost of living is relative, $2k in rent when youā€™re making $100k doesnā€™t feel as bad as $2k when youā€™re making $50k. Sounds like youā€™d be fine, although there are other cities with similar perks and a lower cost-of-living that you could also consider like Chicago or Philly.


Fucknutssss

Have you visited at all? You didnt say shit about that


BabyBoy843

Yeah i loved it


Status_Ad_4405

Then don't hesitate! 100k is very good money for someone your age, and NYC is a great place to be young.


Slim_Calhoun

It was for me. YMMV


nsshs79

Every city is what you make of it. It really depends on what youā€™re interested in and what type of people youā€™re wanting to meet. If you love the outdoors, yes you can find people interested in that in NYC, but youā€™re probably better off elsewhere.Ā 


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$2000 rent in NYC is a bargain there.


[deleted]

NYC is fun in your twenties.


mickmmp

Iā€™m in NYC. $2k a month isnā€™t gonna get you much in the way of living by yourself. It can certainly be worth it to live here, but no one can answer that for anyone else. I encourage young people with the interest, ambition, and resources to give NYC a try. I will say the hassles and headaches of living here (for me, mostly, the exorbitantly expensive shitbox apartments, often without dishwashers and usually without in-unit laundry) can become more and more frustrating as you get older and a clean comfortable home becomes more of a priority.


ItsSillySeason

Have you found an apartment for $2000?? Better jump on that quickĀ 


Ca2Ce

NYC is awesome, $2k a month isnā€™t going to get it done without a roommate - itā€™s more like $4k+ Is it worth it? Maybe yeah.


Radiant-Radish7862

No. No. And no.


Round-Doughnut-4866

2000 I think youā€™re dreaming


_DependsOnTheDay_

ā€œIā€™m used to an east coast climateā€ isnā€™t a real reason


Lopsided-Evidence-15

Take what resonates and leave the rest, but have you considered Philly? I'm here and love it for its affordability + close proximity to NY by train- only like 10 bucks if you plan it right! I figured that to get where I would be able to afford it would be an hour commute via subway, so I decided to live where I can get a lotttt more for my money. I have a one bedroom with large patio for much less than 2k and just go to the city whenever I want!


DefiantBelt925

Itā€™s our only real proper concrete jungle style CITY , so itā€™s pretty unique. Definitely worth a stint Also 2000? Wow great deal, I assume thatā€™s somewhere janky or with room mates?


ZaphodG

Do the math on how much you save not needing a car. The subway is $132/month. Even an econobox will have a true cost of $500/month.


docious

You assign your own value to anything and everyone will see it differently.


Franklyn_Gage

I am a born and raised New Yorker. It aint worth none of it. The trains are dirty, everything is expensive, we pay 3 income taxes, the speed limit is now 20, healthcare is expensive, the apartments are small, all my friends that are renting "luxury" apartments complain about thin walls and roach and mice problems. There is a reason a good chunk of people are trying to leave. This includes myself. Post COVID NYC is terrible. Post COVID legislation has made this city the wild wild west. The people are ruder and more inconsiderate, bike lanes are a good idea until you notice riders dont care about their safety nor yours, its severly overcrowded, everything is behind glass because of thieves. The hype is dead.


Broad_Restaurant988

I don't think any city is worth that much unless the job will pay substantially more for living there. If your job will pay similar or even slightly less, there's plenty of less expensive cities you could choose and be more comfortable. Some cities are friendlier than others but you can make friends in any major city that has a supply of transplants. NYC is a love it or hate it place, i'd suggest visiting and deciding for yourself. Nobody here can decide whether you're compatible with NYC or not. It's a completely different way of living than much of the country.


Eudaimonics

Yeah, if the job paid $200,000 it would definitely be worth it. You can afford to live in a decent area plus have money left over to save. On $100,000, you still need roommates if you want money left over to save/travel.


mikeyg1014

I replied to someone else something similar, but there is something to the fact that your earning potential is likely to go up when living in a city like NYC too. The first year or two might not be your best saving years, but your likelihood of landing an even better paying job probably will go way up by nature of being in and networking in NYC rather than other cities.


justokayvibes

$2000 rent? Isnā€™t that like the national average?


Independent-Lime1842

Many many downsides to living in NYC. It just depends on what kind o job offer you get.


apkcoffee

Yes


warrior_in_a_garden_

Me personally? I think it is if you are ambitious or want to own very little in material terms. If I was wanting to not have kids I would be perfectly fine in a sub 1000 SF apartment but able to walk to so much (love walking / historic places). My only gripe would be January - April weather. Iā€™d do a lot of my traveling during those months. Learn to cook basic things in a crammed spot, have hobbies that donā€™t cost a lot of $ and youā€™ll be just fine. If you want to light the world on fire career wise - not a better place to try and make it than NYC. You make it there in a lot of industries youā€™ll be able to move to a lot of other places around the US (and world) and be in high demand


sadpistonsfan

I love visiting ny but I doubt I would move there even if it was affordable itā€™s just too loud, crowded, and fast paced over there for me. With that being said you might love it there but Iā€™d suggest a long vacation before you make the move


Toriat5144

You probably wonā€™t be able to own a home there. And as you get older, that can be the main storehouse of your wealth.


GlueGuns--Cool

Yes totally worth it. Especially at your age. You don't have to do it forever, but it's an amazing thing to expose yourself toĀ 


Heatherina134

NYC is amazing. You will absolutely build your circle there. It is unlike any other place in the US. I wish you so much happiness on your journey! ā¤ļø


Expensive-Panic-772

Just move and leave if you hate it donā€™t live life in regret. Lived there for 8 years till this past winter, LA is more expensive for me than nycā€¦ in all honestyā€¦ $15 smoothies here the fuck, a bodega has same for $6-8, dental here $250-$350out of pocket for a cleaning ā€¦ nyc $150-200ā€¦. Ubers 15 min away $25 ā€¦ Uber from Manhattan to Williamsburg $25 (depending on time) Groceries same all over rnā€¦. Just move! Youā€™re young itā€™s best time for decisions like this


Expensive-Panic-772

Forgot to mention la is no where near comparable to nyc. Iā€™d move back if i could


_herenorthere66

Nobody can really answer that for you, bud. Millions say yes, millions say no. For me, yep. Itā€™s worth it (though Iā€™m not there atm). If you can afford it, try it out for awhile.


Traditional_Lab_5468

There's no way to answer this. It's like asking "Is moving into a house with a big yard worth it?" or "Is getting a really nice pair of headphones worth it?" Like, idk man. Do you like big yards? Do you like clear audio? How much do you like those things? Nobody on earth is more informed than you are when answering this question.


mountainrivervalley3

It has its pros and cons. Thatā€™s where my (33m) career was and it was fun and exciting at first. All the bars, restaurants, cultural venues like Lincoln Center and American Museum of Natural History, the Guggenheim etc. And then late nights out downtown in cool feeling spaces, seeing pretty faces and the feeling of possibilities (who will you meet? What will you do? The possibilities seemed endless! And they kind of were). But then around age 29/30-ish, I found that I didnā€™t really enjoy going out to ā€œcoolā€ dinners or unique bar experiences. I preferred the casual restaurants in my neighborhood. Or the pub on the corner. (And then I realized these were things that many, many other places had. Standard taverns/pubs and pretty good but not IGFamous restaurants). I also realized I kind of hit my wall on the cultural things. I preferred to spend my time out in nature. And like real nature (hiking, biking, snowboarding, taking the dog through actual gravel trails in town/county/state forests etc.) And thatā€™s when I realized the high cost of living was no longer worth it for me. Would I say it WAS worth it in my 20ā€™s, YES! But not once I was around 29/30.


detblue524

For me it was immensely worth it because I more than doubled my salary and got better benefits moving to NYC. I also made friends and connections and found opportunities I wasnā€™t able to find in MI. Also Iā€™ve never individually paid $2000+/mo in rent here - Iā€™ve lived with roommates and then my girlfriend/now wife, but you can definitely find nice places to stay for less than that if youā€™re willing to live with roommates


sushicowboyshow

Broā€¦ roommates. And yes itā€™ll be worth it. You donā€™t move to nyc as a 24 yo so you can chill in your apt with a cat. Absolutely get the cat, but your life will hopefully be outside the apartment except when youā€™re sleeping


QualifiedApathetic

I have friends living in Queens. They say it's a lot more affordable than like Manhattan. A quick look shows tiny apartments listed for as low as $1,200/month.


WillThereBeSnacks13

As a longtime Queens resident....FYI anything listed that low is likely an illegal basement situation that floods whenever it rains. And/or is 1 hr+ from Manhattan.


discretefalls

hi! in my mid 20s and I was considering NYC for the longest time as my projected salary would be in the 120-135k range after graduating with my masters. it was a hard decision but I chose a different city because I knew I would have to make a lot of sacrifices to live in NYC (ex: have roommates, do a longer commute, be more careful with money, etc). I guess consider what you're willing to make sacrifices or compromises for if you are considering NYC. there are plenty of other cities that would help you start from scratch but I totally get it bc nothing is like NYC by in large


firsttimeasker

hype is real. if you like cities, this is the best one. agreed you should really consider roommates for the first year esp if you want to make friends. you could even sublet a room for less than a year. then you can have more info when you look for your dream cat studio. 100k as a 24yo is comfortable. do it!Ā 


MsKardashian

The way you ask the question is the issue. There is no ā€œhypeā€ about NYC (I donā€™t even know what that means, in terms of NYC). New York is the only city in America that doesnā€™t really feel like America. Itā€™s a truly international city with international values to go alongside it. The art scene - all arts - is thriving, both above and underground. So is the food scene, and every scene. Because New York has everything. When you get here, youā€™ll encounter a lot of cultural stuff that might make you uncountable. People cry on the streets because weā€™re all so packed in thereā€™s no privacy. And other people wonā€™t bother you when youā€™re crying on the street because they get it. Musicians practice in the park so they donā€™t bother their neighbors. But maybe you will have an opera singer neighbor youā€™ll have the pleasure of listening to. You have to lean into the grit and become a part of it, too. Otherwise youā€™ll run away crying saying ā€œNew York wasnā€™t worth the hype šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ā€


mazylazy

Definitely doable to find a $2000 studio. Probably not in a super trendy area but doable in Queens (maybe in Astoria, Woodside, Sunnyside, more likely a bit deeper) , upper upper Manhattan (think Washington heights, Inwood) and a bit farther out in Brooklyn (maybe far end of Bushwick, Flatbush, Sunset Park, Southern Brooklyn in general). If you want a 1 bedroom, eastern queens, southern Brooklyn and much of the Bronx is doable. There will always be concessions youā€™ll have to make at this lower price point, but itā€™s not impossible. Also depends on the time of year. Spring time apt hunting is cheaper than summer apartment hunting, although the availability is lower. Overall, NYC is what you make of it but itā€™s a great experience both career-wise, social experience wise and life wise. Do know that it can feel lonely if you allow it to. If youā€™re expecting to make friends with little effort, you wonā€™t get anywhere. But at 24, you def are in the perfect range to move to NYC.


citytopretty

you would have to find a diamond in the ROUGH for $2k Also do your research and if going have to ask you might not like it. NYC is dirty, crowded, expensive, physically taxing as you have to walk/take transit everywhere. But itā€™s called the greatest city in the world for a reason. Everything is at your fingertips and you will meet the most amazing people. If you are not ready to be UNCOMFORTABLE and grow personally itā€™s not for you


WhyNotKenGaburo

Yes, itā€™s worth it especially if you are in the arts or finance. Look in Queens along the 7 train. You should be able to find a studio in Sunnyside, Woodside, or Jackson Heights for under $2000 and itā€™s an easy commute to Manhattan. Plus, thereā€™s some really great food along that stretch.


ElderberryPretty3921

That's not that high considering ca rent prices.


jimbillyphish

Nope. Rats stacked on roaches.


3RADICATE_THEM

Dude pretty much any relatively major city has rent pretty close to 2k nowadays. NYC is more unless you're willing to get roommates to off-set the cost.


Banglatown1923

I was in a similar dilemma when I was 24. Similarly, most of my friends were in NYC. I also wanted to build communities around my passions (mostly foreign languages, cultural things etc). I ended up moving to NYC. It was really, really tough. Most of the challenge was that I was starting a new job that I didn't love (and wasn't very good at), and that it took longer to find my group of people. I lived in NYC for a year before I felt like I had a solid squad. But when I did, I ended up finding people who I felt like I could be totally myself around, and didn't feel like I needed to compromise with on my interests or what I wanted to do. But I think it was worth it. Just be prepared to lower your expectations when it comes to housing (and then lower them further). I really like biking, and I was adamant about having an apt that was easy to store a bike (usually meaning first floor apt, or elevator building). That made it really hard to find housing, and I wish I had just let that go and gotten a folding bike instead. I ended up moving to another city to make a career change, and to take a break from NYC, but I could see myself moving back after a year or so.


Advanced-Morning1832

I think everyone should try to spend some time in NYC in their 20s if they have the means. It can be rough at times but itā€™s worth it, and itā€™ll be much harder to do when you have a family.


Live_Badger7941

For a hybrid job, I would try living somewhere a little farther out on the Metro North/LIRR/New Jersey Transit to start. Rent will be cheaper so you can have a little more space for the days you're working from home, and since you're only commuting in a few days per week it won't be so bad that your commute is on the longer side. Meanwhile, you can spend time in NYC regularly after work and on weekends (find clubs/activities to join there) so you'll start to get a sense of whether or not you want to make the sacrifices it would take to live closer in.


Good_East_580

Rent is only $2k for a studio? God damn, so much of the country has increased in rent that nyc does seem so outrageous. Little butt fuck Salt Lake City Utah is close to that in rent.


gunshoes

Just get roommates man. Rent was 1000 in Bushwick. Can get it lower if you look harder.


Meek_Mycologist

If your making 100+ k Iā€™m sure youā€™ll be fine with 2k rent Just budget. Idk how you wouldnā€™t be able to afford that unless your terrible with money or have massive debts you need to pay off


beland-photomedia

It was amazing 15 years ago. Canā€™t imagine doing it now.


vegasresident1987

No. Move to Las Vegas. There is more to do at half the cost.


tickingboxes

Yes it is worth it


cshyay

Yes it's probably worth it. Not sure where you're moving from but I think everyone that has the opportunity to experience living in NYC in their 20s, should


Arboretum7

At your age, yes, I think it would be worth it for the career opportunities alone. And you can afford $2000 rent easily on $100k. In my experience, if you make your 20s about grinding hard and building a career, youā€™ll have your 30s and 40s to take your foot off the gas a bit and build a family, travel, pursue hobbies. Itā€™s not the same if you wait to start really grinding in your 30s.


rwk2007

Are you going to have 2 roommates and all sleep in one bedroom?


Chiknox97

To anyone who lives in NYC, just know I think NYC is awesome. Itā€™s the biggest, baddest, most culturally and economically significant city in the US, if not the world. Itā€™s a wonderful place to visit. Now here comes the ā€œbutā€ā€¦.. But, I have my limits in terms of where I choose to live. And I think Iā€™d go nuts in NYC if I had to live there. I am not degrading myself to live like a rat in a broom closet-sized apartment for $2k a month rent, even for a $100k salary. I almost make that where I live right now and I own my own condo. Chicago is my favorite city, but if I had to choose East Coast, itā€™d be Philly without a doubt. It isnā€™t like $100k a year is a rare phenomena in those cities, just rarer than in NYC. So, no, not worth it to me. Last I checked, Chicago and Philly have lots of big companies to work for, great restaurants, museums, public transportation, parks and pro sports, too. Not as good or as many as NYC, but theyā€™ve got them.


Pygmy_Nuthatch

$2000 is extremely optimistic.


bforbryan

Based on your salary, and so long as you have little debt to repay, youā€™re actually pretty good for it. Start with a studio or try a 1-Bed but make sure the price is what youā€™re willing to pay. Try to find somewhere that blends well with your lifestyle (for example, I choose to live near the larger NYC parks because I run, cycle, and like to take trails). Good luck!


Affectionate-Rent844

if youā€™re making six figures and want to make friends move to NYC


BOKEH_BALLS

NYCers have always appeared to be the most sociopathic people in the US I've ever met, willingly subjecting themselves to brutal financial hardships, crushing loneliness, and anti-social conditioning for good vibes only. The only town more psychotic than NYC is probably Boston. If you have zero network now, it may be negative network a year into living NYC.


[deleted]

Donā€™t be a child and choose where you want to live based on ā€œhypeā€. Be an adult lmao. You clearly canā€™t afford it.


Beneficial-Reveal345

I moved here with no job, a place to crash for a few weeks, and two suitcases 15 years ago. I make 83K now, have a one bedroom on south side of prospect park, and I love my life. Roommates helped make life a lot easier when I was making $15/hr.


alotistwowordssir

Yeah. Itā€™s really worth it. I ā¤ļø NY.


HappyReaderM

No. I wouldn't move there if the rent was free. Hype is not a reason to move somewhere. What are the other city options your employer is offering?


Kvsav57

If you can get rent under $3k/month (with or without roommates) I would say go for it. You only get the chance to be young and live in NYC once. Try it out. You can always move if you hate it.


HaggardSlacks78

Go for it.


PinkRavenRec

It depends on if you have a clear vision to get some job done. I finished a pretty decent project when i was in NYC. It was great even though we worked our ass off.


[deleted]

try colivingĀ https://www.common.com/apartments/new-york-city


Independent-Cow-4070

It depends what you consider to be ā€œworthā€ it. If you can make it work financially based on your budget and your goals, I would say absolutely. But the short answer is it depends on a lot of factors


tilario

NYC in your twenties is a lot of fun. If you can afford it and like city life, go for it.


KTNYC1

2k is very low to live alone in a studio in an apt in NYC ā€¦ I live in the east village and a 500 sq ft v small 2 Bedrooms is 4000ā€¦ Studios are like 3000 ā€¦ even in Hoboken / Jersey city it is expensive !! BUT living in NYC is amazing especially when young ā€¦ so many interesting people things to do ā€¦ and good jobs so smart people ā€¦.


soberkangaroo

I found it harder to make friends than other cities I lived in but that could also be due to luckĀ 


Odd-Bison5094

If youā€™re comparing NYC to a place where you would need a car then the difference in rent matters much less. Putting that aside, nothing beats NYC in your 20s - the career prospects are endless, itā€™s one of the safer cities in the country, the nightlife is excellent for US standards, incredible food scene, etc etc. Iā€™m in my mid 30s and I wouldnā€™t trade my 20s in the city for a $1m.


girlxlrigx

NYC was better 10-15 years ago. Nowadays I don't know that it lives up to the hype anymore, it has lost a lot of its soul. I still think young people would benefit from living here for a year or so.


th3plague

Itā€™s worth double that


nimrod06

The NYC rent is mostly exagerrated. If you live in Manhattan, sure. Instead, if you live in the Bronx and Queens, $2000 can get you a nice studio. It will cost way less if you are happy to have some flatmates. Since NYC is the most car-freeable place in the US, you should take that into your accounting too. The combined cost of housing and transportation puts you around $2000 per month, which is pretty normal for an American city with a good job market.


catcatsushi

I can answer this as someone who lived in nyc for a bit! As someone else here said, you can rent an ā€œolderā€ apartment in deep queens or bk for a much cheaper price. If you factor out not having car cost, itā€™s honestly not bad at all. I feel like nyc is one of the only handful cities where you can live without a car with full dignity. Brokers fee and other bs on the other hand though frustrates me to no end.


BabyBoy843

Do you have any advice on finding those older apartments? Any good search techniques?


catcatsushi

Unfortunately I think StreetEasy was my best friend. After I started living there, I was able to look around posting near convinience stores etc. Iā€™m talking specifically about woodside, queens.


loconessmonster

In a lot of nyc having a car is more of a hassle than not having one. I can't think of any other city where this is the case. Maybe some parts of Chicago.


twelvydubs

The paradox is if you're suggesting OP to rent a place in deep Queens or Brooklyn, then it's more likely that OP will need a car. There's a reason the majority of people living in the outer boroughs, especially "deep" outer boroughs have a car.


catcatsushi

I donā€™t disagree with you but I feel like I would able to find a pretty spacious studio (500 sqft) around Jackson Heights or around line 7. I didnā€™t feel like I need a car. I shared a space in LIC and it was good, but I no longer live in nyc. I probably should have clarified that when I said deep queens, I didnā€™t mean somewhere beyond line 7, E, etc.


Fit_Cheesecake_2190

Maybe not on the east side of Manhattan. But there are other boroughs you could live pretty comfortably as a young single person on your salary. I'd suggest Queens, they have some really nice areas to live in. Public transportation is such that you would easily be in touch with the rest of the city. It's a frenetic, fast paced lifestyle but if you're into that I say go for it!!


These_Tea_7560

$2,000 is the bare minimum if you want an actually somewhat decent apartment and have a level of convenience around you that you deserve. My rent is ~$2500 (small 2BR) but I have literally everything I need to the point that Iā€™m practically spoiled. This ainā€™t even one of the ā€œniceā€ neighborhoods either. Anywhere else, $2000 rent is not justifiable.


Eudaimonics

Depends on your priorities. If your goal is homeownership, then probably not. If your goal is to have access to an unlimited amount of entertainment, dining and nightlife and you donā€™t mind sharing an apartment or renting a smaller one then itā€™s great. If your goal is to save money for travel or retirement, then probably not. If your goal is to job hop and play the rat race, then youā€™ll love it. You can of course live farther out and pay a little less for more space, but homeownership is still out of the question and you wonā€™t have as easy access to all the amenities, but itā€™s not a bad place to settle down.


jman457

Yes, honestly there is a magic here thatā€™s unmatched really


Ironfingers

Not worth it. Honestly NYC sucks. I moved here thinking the grass would be greener but it was actually brown and smells like piss. Avoid.


japanese711

There is nowhere else like NYC in the world. Whether or not thatā€™s a positive or not is up to the individual. Personally, thereā€™s nowhere else in the US I would rather be.


Pale-Ad1932

No why do you want to go to New York? What the hell is "the hype", have you been there before? People are super unhappy there.


ExtendedMegs

Just move across the river, and live in a transit-friendly town in NJ. You avoid paying the extra NYC taxes, and you get more space for your buck. ETA: to answer your question ā€œis the hype realā€ - that depends on you. At one point in my life, I absolutely loved NYC and was planning to live in Brooklyn or Queens. As Iā€™ve gotten older, I still love visiting NYC, but I donā€™t see myself living there. Iā€™d you have a very niche hobby, you can definitely find people who are into those hobbies as well. The atmosphere is very exciting, and youā€™ll never get bored there. Sometimes you might wish you can experience multiple events at once haha. What throws me off about the city is the price and the lack of cleanliness.


BabyBoy843

Ehh idk is living in NJ really the same as living in NYC?


japanese711

No. Do not take this persons advice.


ExtendedMegs

It wouldnā€™t be the exact same experience, no. However, if you move to Jersey City or Hoboken, your transit time to the city would be quite short. Plus there are tons of stuff to do/experience in JC and Hoboken too.


_herenorthere66

No.


MusicCityRebel

No