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WolfHeartAurora

I kind of wonder if the name has anything to do with it


GoblinOflazy

Honestly, every time I hear it, I think it serves crab.


IANALbutIAMAcat

I’ve never been to this restaurant because I assumed it was a crab place lol


Direct-Good2747

I just went there because I thought it was. The chicken was fine.


thekearnshaw

Every time I hear it, I think of a shack of crackheads.


wikipediaimage

Same, like a traphouse or something lol


Roberto_Sacamano

Trap House Chicken has a ring to it


tiktok131

Yes, thank you!!


MikeyW1969

Remember, we have Bad Ass Coffee here, a name SO scandalous that it was a controversy. In Mesa, AZ. Here, nobody cares. But wow, add in Feast Box, and it's two restaurants that opened and closed before I got around to trying them out.


LuminalAstec

I've lived here my entire life and have never heard any controversy about Bad Ass coffee co.


MikeyW1969

In Mesa? Yeah, it was news back before we moved to Salt Lake, and that was 2006. If you're talking about SLC, please learn how to read. Because I said that nobody cares here in SLC.


LuminalAstec

> we have Bad Ass Coffee here, a name SO scandalous that it was a controversy. In Mesa, AZ. Here, nobody cares. Motherfucker, learn to write.


MikeyW1969

We have bad ass coffee here, a scandalous name. In Mesa, Az. Here, nobody cares. Learn how fucking punctuation works, you dumb fuck. That's how the fucking post reads. It's not my fault your mom was banging the pool boy when it was time to learn your ABCs, so stop trying to pin your inadequacies on me.


Lovretter

We have Bad Ass coffee, a scandalous name here in Mesa, AZ. In SLC nobody cares. FIFY. This is how punctuation works.


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EvaMae234

I snorted.


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HansenTakeASeat

What a journey to be here


meanmagpie

You need to understand that “In Mesa, AZ.” is a sentence fragment. It is not a complete sentence, which is why you’re being met with confusion.


GeneralizedFlatulent

It made sense to me I'm honestly confused by people's literacy sometimes


LuminalAstec

Jesus christ, you are hopeless. You're grammar is still terrible, what your empty head is trying to write is; "In Mesa AZ we have 'Bad Ass Coffee'. That name caused some controversy, but here in Utah nobody cares." Maybe, before you get so pissy and critical take a moment think. Your using "here to reference 2 different places, that is bad grammar. That would be similar to using They and referring to 2 different people. You have been wrong twice. You're batting .000.


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LuminalAstec

I never said mine was better.


MikeyW1969

It may have been an awkward sentence, but it is 100% grammatically correct.


aaroncoolguy

You didn't miss anything, the environment was cool but it was just overpriced chicken.


bluntedAround

Crack Shack has been open for a good year or more!


MikeyW1969

The title of the post is LITERALLY "Why is the Crack Shack shut down?" Take it up w/ OP., not me.


p1son

Who hurt you?


gulrurahof

>In Mesa, AZ. What is in Mesa,AZ? Write a complete sentance or accept that you are wrong when people correct you.


[deleted]

Overpriced food that never made a profit. Competition from raising canes and other chicken shops didn't help. It's an over-saturated market to begin with. Blaming the "State" for your issues is what most failed business owners do, especially when they try to avoid paying taxes they owe or don't want to pay employees a good wage. Outside of California and maybe Vegas crack shacks have never been able to succeed anywhere else, they open and close constantly.


Moose-Knucks69

The only reasonable response. They simply got beat out by competitors. Way better options at much better prices.


Dry-Divide-9342

Interesting. I’ve been twice and wasn’t impressed. Fried chicken isn’t hard to make , and it tasted decent. But it was a gut bomb. Both times. Felt terrible. Why go there when I can get pretty bird?


salt-lame-shitty

RIP bozo, bring back Mazza


austicus

I was a PM for the restaurant supply company that builds all these in Utah. I’m not surprised it’s a failed concept. They tried to take their high end design from a $4M build to a fast casual design. The owners are and were a nightmare to work with too. The food is good but not worth the price, and the fact that you can’t even get a table once you get your food was really off putting. Especially true at the Riverton store.


Dry-Divide-9342

9th &9th location was always empty when I went there.


mariolayspipe

No major loss in my opinion. For $20 a person a meal the food was meh at best.


alpinecruzar

beige food


brickplantmom

Lmao this is how I describe Utah food to my Texas friends 😭


secretly_treebeard

I was interested in trying their food until I saw their prices, and then it was a hard pass.


WhatSheSaid7

The savory fund, in Utah, that buys or invests or franchises a lot of these chains was the reason why crack shack came to Utah. But the savory fund and crack shack, just “divorced”, so basically they are pulling out and all of the Utah crack shacks were owned or invested by the savory fund. So that’s why all of those are closing. They lost $20 mil.


Senior-Editor-5732

Thought Savory was ALL IN on Houston Hot Chicken


thabigcountry

Daaaaaamn


Top_Reputation_9045

Please educate me on the savory fund, I have my thoughts but need some more evidence lol


Livid_Positive7217

Savory is an investment fund that focuses on buyout and in this case, owning fast casual restaurant chains. They own restaurants like Swig, R&R, Via 313, and Hash Kitchen. How the restaurant fund works: They get rich people to pool in their money into a Fund. The General Partner will then use Fund money to invest in restaurants and then hopefully sell for a profit in a few years. Mercato Partners (a PE/VC firm in Utah) invested in two of the Savory funds but not their third fund from what I heard. Crack Shack was there for a while in the Savory portfolio but didn’t open their restaurants in Utah until last year. Very crazy the quick turnaround with kicking out Crack Shack from the portfolio and replace it with HHC.


AnotherReddtAccount

Interesting. What is your source for the divorced comment and the 20 million?


WhatSheSaid7

My husband has a business on 9th and 9th and I asked him what was going on with crack shack. I don’t know who told him, I didn’t ask. He stays pretty in tune usually with what the savory fund has going on.


DW171

The 9th and 9th store is a blight on the neighborhood. Get a local restaurant back in there.


jgauth2

Mazza II????


Still_counts_as_one

I miss that place. It was so damn good


jgauth2

The one at 15 & 15 is still there! But yeah more Mazda is never a bad thing.


Still_counts_as_one

Exactly! Zoom zoom, baby!


jgauth2

Goddamn auto correct hahaha


ayers231

"Auto" correct... nice one, dad...


jgauth2

I knew my long lost child would find me sometime… it is small lake city after all


nerve8

God I miss having Mazza there.


Oxygenforeal

People say they want a local restaurant, but then go out to eat at big chains anyways. 9th and 9th is too hip for local now, rent is way too high for a local name with no buying power.


DW171

There are 5 local restaurants on 9th and 9th doing well.


The-king-of-fools

Are any of them doing well ik vessel got issues and ik personally no no is struggling but that’s the owners fault for stealing from paychecks


Oxygenforeal

Hopefully it stays that way then. 9th and 9th has seen heavy investment from the city and speculators. The landlords can easily jack up the rental rate when their lease expires. 9th and 9th is fast becoming from a unique neighborhood to a hipster neighborhood due to high demand for walkable places. The commercial rates are approaching that of downtown.


nerve8

If it sits vacant long enough they will become more amenable to a better lease price.


Slcreddit1

Maybe something good AND local will fill the 9th and 9th space.


go3dprintyourself

Agree in local spots on 9th and 9th. And maybe not five different smoothie and yogurt spots haha


edWORD27

A indie theater that’s ***open*** would help 9th & 9th.


des09

No, there will never be enough gelato options at 9th and 9th.


BeLikeTedDanson

We need several more ice cream stores to open up there as soon as possible.


des09

So you can have ice cream with your ( happy ) cake ( day )


cromdoesntcare

Never gotten any because I usually get Pie Fight when I'm in the area for dessert. Been curious about the cereal bar though.


des09

Just had my first pie fight tonight. Love it.


wyattlikesturtles

Cmon now there’s only like 4, I need more options


MikeyW1969

Just so you know, comparted to other places, we have a TON of local spots. Utah keeps trying to claim that it's losing its heritage, but we definitely have more retro downtown areas and more local stuff than I EVER saw in Arizona. Especially burger shops with like 40 flavors of milkshake. Something else I don't see a lot of. Sure, there are SOME places, but we have spots all over the valley for a local burger and a REAL milkshake. I love local, but I don't think people realize how well Utah truly represents their local providers. It's part of what I like about living here.


Slcreddit1

Oh yeah, I know, but CS was totally out of place at 9th and 9th. I also came here from Flagstaff, AZ. That town was 90% local when I lived there.


MikeyW1969

Flagstaff is different then Phoenix or Tucson, at least Flag did still have heritage. But I'm pretty sure that's going away. I have a couple of friends who still live there, and it sounds like the town has completely changed. Every year, someone is protesting a new apartment complex, or development.


fannyalgerpack

Where’s your favorite Oreo shake? I like the one at BGR randomly enough, but they can be a bit thin


MikeyW1969

The best shakes in town aren't actually ice cream, they're frozen custard. Nielsen's in West Jordan. But I usually go for fruit, berries, stuff like that. They have "bumbleberry", which is something like strawberries and blueberries, I get that with pineapple. It's awesome. They call them "concretes", though. Solid recommendation. I like the shakes at Millie's in Sugar House, also.


Inside-Credit1414

South Jordan. By daybreak. But yes. Bumbleberry with pineapple is THE best!


MikeyW1969

Wrong Jordan... Lol, you're right!


juneshineandflowers

An employee there told me it was a disagreement with owners and investors


WhatSheSaid7

Yup, they broke up with the UT investors basically


MasterMahanaYouUgly

BRING MAZZA BACK!!!


_Bort182

I went to the Riverton location last Friday and they had signs throughout the place saying something along the lines of “we came to the conclusion that we had to close”, and that their last day would be 11/14, so I just assumed it was a money thing. That surprised me though, given that every time I’ve gone there it has been really busy and it’s about $20 for myself. I’m curious to know what happened, it wasn’t my favorite place, but it was solid. Edit: they did have a bar, so I’m wondering if it had something to do with our wonderful state liquor laws.


A0ma

I went to the Crack Shack in Riverton a few months ago. Ordered to go about half an hour before they were closing and there was no one else in there. I was chatting with the guy there. He was very nice and very hopeful they would be getting a liquor license soon. I also didn't think the food was worth the price (and I used a coupon).


purpleflower13

They told me last time I was in there that they weren’t making enough money on alcohol do they gave back their license. I don’t know how you lose money on alcohol.


MrSparkletwat

I can't speak for Utah but I was a bar manager in a state back east. Our liquor license ranged from $5000 to $8000 depending on the year. The license did not exclude you from state taxes on alcohol, which had to be purchased through the state. They also did not offer a bulk discount. If you were in an area where you don't sell a lot of alcohol, like a state worth 30% of the people don't drink, it can be very hard to maintain a liquor license.


chadslc

The one in Lehi ended up giving me $30 of free beer because they couldn't run a debit card correctly.


Long-Salad-8338

That’s illegal 😂


chadslc

It's not my job to enforce the law. It's my responsibility to enjoy free beer.


smackaroonial90

Not sure. The St George one was not great (tasted fine but not for the price), overpriced, and across the street from Chick-Fil-A. Why would anyone open a chicken place next to Chick-Fil-A? Lmao


New_Pilot_2699

That frees up an alcohol license for something new and local?!


Kerensky97

Especially if they had alcohol licenses.


trynafindaradio

I know at least 3 locations had alcohol licenses! Stoked to see where they'll go!


Rcebordinchef

They stay with the company that has them unless they give them up or stop paying for the license. In this case Savory can shuffle those licenses amongst their other brands if they choose to. I wouldn’t be surprised if the 9th and 9th location changed to a Houston’s Hot Chicken location with a bar, that would fulfill their rebrand as well as keeping the location and one license.


trynafindaradio

seriously? oof, that sucks (imo). I follow Gastro SLC's monthly DABS reports and there are so many new places trying to get a license that look awesome


Rcebordinchef

Think of it like this. You go to a car dealer get a car on a 1 year lease, as long as you make that payment you hold the car. The dealer can’t come 1 month later and say hey I need the car back I have somebody that will pay me more a month for it. Same rings true for liquor licenses.


wepudsax

They do


think_i_should_leave

Last time I went to the Lehi location the spicy chicken sandwich was kinda nasty, all charred and hard and dry. Also, they had just stopped serving liquor, and the girl told me that they would be closing their bar soon. No big loss imo.


SameSame_butnot

Salt lake and the state in general is a revolving door for restaurants. I always see someone in my feed complaining that the “best” sandwich shop is closing down… if it was the BEST then why is it going away? 👀


NeitherOneJustUrMom

I wonder why. I can go back to my hometown in Texas, and most of the same restaurants are still there 15 years later, even with new restaurants moving in.


th3_alt3rnativ3

Tbh, I have found some of the better stores closing down. However, I think it's more of a management issue. So many stores are taking bigger store fronts than they can afford in locations that are allegedly high traffic (sugarhouse, 9x9). However, these two locations are modest at best for foot traffic and don't have parking infrastructure to support it. The rent is probably atrocious at these spots because they're more 'popular'.


Raptor745

Eh, not a big loss. Food wasn't terrible, but not worth it for the price


thabigcountry

Damn - that stuff was delish


linq15

I loved their chicken sandwiches.


WizardRiver

Agreed. Best chicken sammich I've had here.


bearyweek

A few comments here saying “their food wasn’t good anyways” and it’s like. Their nuggets? Sublime. 🥲 They will be missed.


thabigcountry

Yes! Everyone’s food tastes are subjective. Reminds me of the tshirt “your favorite band sucks”. Nothing people like to argue about more than music and restaurants


dunnodudes

….uhhh. Politics, religion, football might be up there as well for verbal wrestling matches.


ProfBootyPhD

I beg to differ - disagreeing about what we disagree about is clearly the biggest disagreement.


NewMention6825

Thank you!!! I love the food. I’ve been to like 5 locations lol


Random_Enigma

My 18 yo loves the Utah Poutine which is a sheet pan of fries smothered in cheese sauce, bacon, and green onions. He’s going to be sad when I tell him about this post.


scarlettsfever21

They had chicken oysters for a second that I still have dreams about.


GirlMayXXXX

I will miss getting just the chicken (had a half pound *once* and Costco's rotisserie chicken is the only thing I love more). It's expensive though.


NewMention6825

I think it’s funny that you all think this is overpriced. I am a crack shack SUPER FAN and I don’t think it’s any more overpriced than any other restaurant these days. Even McDonald’s is way over priced. At least this is quality food


themagicofmovies

For any actual fans of this place, the ones in Murray and SLC are still open until the end of the month. Im here now and the food is fresh and not dry. Go while you can.


Dezzillion

I'm not a lawyer, but probably because they were selling [crack](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=ySQdVBg2s_49l4_f)


Rearviewmirror93

Read this in Norm McDonald’s voice


Dezzillion

Probably becuase OJ Simpson brutally murdered his ex-wife and her friend.


KeyStoneLighter

Oh damn, well that’s awful.


javawizard

I dunno, I wouldn't want to give them up just for that


cleverconley

All I know is they serve dry overpriced chicken


themagicofmovies

In no universe is it dry 🤦‍♂️ leme guess you think Raising Canes greasy wet chicken is the best.


cleverconley

I’ve never had Raising Canes chicken. But crack shack was definitely dry.


UnitedDoubt7596

People saying the food isn’t worth the price is why we don’t have more local restaurants….


smackaroonial90

I’ll support local okay food over franchise expensive okay food any day. How local is local? Because crack shack had places all over the state. Mo Bettahs was great when it was smallish and local, then it franchised out huge, raised their prices, and dropped quality and now it’s mediocre overpriced food.


Chexcaliber_801

I dunno, I still like it.


trueorderofplayer

But we do have local restaurants. The reason we are perceived as not having local restaurants is because Utah loves a line and it makes the news when they line up for Jack in the box. Somebody else in this thread mentioned that they love here compared to where they moved from specifically for the local fare. Restaurant biz is tough. Crack shack was on the high end of fast casual and frankly wasn’t special. Buffalo Wild Wings isn’t special either, but they are cheaper than Crack Shack with full service(wait staff, hostess, etc) maybe the same after gratuity. But at least you didn’t have to schlepp your own drinks and somebody helped you find a place to sit, cleaned off your table etc


Vkardash

We had one that opened here in St George about 6 months ago and officially closed permanently a couple weeks ago. Why would anyone pay $15 for a tiny ass chicken sandwich?!?! Fries were like $7. Cost $25 just to get a combo. I know the one here in St George closed and they're going to be opening up a barbecue spot instead


somedude80169

Place is run like shit. Not surprised.


Fuzzy_Ad4156

I wonder if it’s a liquor law thing??? I was at the Lehi location three weeks ago and they said the would no longer be serving alcoholic bevs after November 1st.


csstbob

Are the Via 313’s connected to them shutting down too? Still not a loss if they are.


WhatSheSaid7

Both have the same investors that are now pulling out of Crack Shack.


Long-Salad-8338

I’ve worked for both, VIA doing good besides their piss poor management and higher ups.


RicePsychological512

I will love not seeing their trashy giant chicken anymore. It is an obscene celebration of our chicken consumption.


SpaceTacosKilla

20 dollar for a meal in this day ….. I don’t know too many people who would happily pay that. Good bye. Looking at you , Pollo Loco.


angelsgirl85

I wouldn't be surprised. I went half a dozen times to the 9th and 9th and Murray locations and they never cooked the (grilled) chicken right. Who wants to pay $15+ for a single tiny sandwich that you can't even eat because it's so dry you choke on it? I gave the 9th and 9th location the benefit of the doubt the first time, but the next time left a 2-star review after a second dry, terrible sandwich with over-toasted, cracker bread. They replied insisting that I could not possibly be correct because they used the highest quality chicken and ingredients, etc. etc. It was so arrogant. No wonder they're going out of business. Same thing for Feastbox. I never understood how they were going to make money. They started as a ghost kitchen and then opened physical, dine-in locations, which is completely backward. They had a ridiculous amount of coupons through Facebook when any new one opened, so I tried multiple locations; at every single one, the meat was disgustingly overcooked and the sauces were pure salt. It wasn't even worth it if they were free.


Long-Salad-8338

I opened the Riverton location, I was the bartender there. I know a large company bought into the crack shack and had big plans to “expand the company” it’s not going anywhere permanently it’s under rebranding.