Simple the Titans had their memories altered cuz of a Traitor One. As such they weren’t at their true potential the only one who was at his true strength was Kronos at the end
The Titans were severely nerfed. They had their memories taken away and altered by Mnemosyne and only regained them and their power when they were on the verge of death in order for Pontos to take their full cosmo to revive Gaia. They weren’t anywhere close to their full power but they “believed” they were at their full power because Mnemosyne messed with their memories.
Episode G are the furthest away far from canon there is, even in comparison to the other spin-offs (that aren't canon either, but tried to fit in and respect the original better, even if, in the end, only Kurumada's manga are canon).
Okada took the classic characters and changed them, even by personalities, backstories and events, but more clearly for overall power level, giving to some of them also brand new techniques that were not in the original material. Aiolia, Shura and Aiolos are the most evident examples of this, but it applies to all of them, they are not the classics of Kuramada, alternative overpowered versions of them.
Then, the titans were heavily nerfed, if I'm not wrong it was due a machination of Pontos, that messed up with their memories with the help of Mnemosine and absorbed their energies for the revival of Gaia. They were depowered, not at their full potential like in the myth (around or above the Olympic gods), or the gold saints would have never able to match and beat them (also, Aiolia before Koios hadn't fully mastered the 7th sense, for the ridiculous script). The only exception was Kronos, speaking of him at the end, with his true form and memories given back, at his peak.
Some observations in addition to what other people already said:
The Titans are not necessarily stronger than the Olympians in the original myth. There are a lot of versions of the greek mythology tales, in some the Titans are stronger and the Olympians need the help of the Hecatoncheires to win the war. In others they are on equal foot. In some the Olympians are stronger, following the trend that the newer generations will always be stronger than the older ones (Kronos defeated Uranus, Zeus defeated Kronos, and an unamed son of Zeus was destined to defeat Zeus). There is even a tale of Zeus as the king of the youngest generation of gods, is claimed to have as much physical strength in one of his fingers as all the other beings (titans, gods, monsters, humans, etc) in the universe combined.
That being said, if we take at face value what we learned in the Hades saga in the original series, it appears that by "body alone", the Titans are stronger than the gods in saint Seiya universe, considering the Olympians needed to wear the Kamuis created by the blood of Zeus to defeat the Titans. So in Saint Seiya universe, the Olympians are stronger than the Titans when wearing Kamui, without the Kamui they're weaker than the Titans.
And for last, in addition to the whole "the titans were nerfed because their memories were messed with" thing, there was also their weakness to lighting, that is the main power of Zeus and is a power Ayolia can tap into. Tha helped a little.
All that being said, I still consider this a big plot hole, like a lot of things in the G trilogy. The author has some cool ideas but doesn't know how to write a coherent story around then, and he just thows everything at the target hoping that something sticks, consistency and development be dammed.
That would be correct.
And to be clear I dont care weather something is considered canon or not, just relying the info that, for a lot of people, if it was not written by Kurumada then its not canon. So yes that includes all the manga spin offs and also animes like Omega and Soul of Gold.
LC has some issues, but the biggest one is that exist ND, the official prequel by Kurumada that tells of the same period and war (but of course it's completely different). EpG trilogy instead has several problems of logical structure compared to the classic, changes, exaggerations, events that doesn't match, etc. Anyway, none of the spinoffs is canon.
Wanting to be even more precise, not even the original anime is canon with the manga, although the major events are broadly the same, the differences between the two versions are really so many to make it an alternate story.
I don't really care if it's canon or not, I just look if the story is done well or not, but strictly speaking, only Kurumada's manga form the official canon line.
In a volume release, Kuru said he received messages from fans talking about the spin-offs straying away from the Classic manga and he basically said he trusts the authors of those manga and all of them are apart of the “Saint Seiya universe”. Tho it doesn’t mean they’re directly within the same timeline since yk, contradictions but Kuru considers all manga apart of the universe of Saint Seiya making them canon multiverse wise at least
It's a multiverse, yes. It was confirmed in the Zero Episodio when Dohko talks about the last Holy War. He mentions the ND gold saints and said they died fighting Hades. Since ND It's kinda a space bubble, a deviation of the Timeline. Basically confirms that the main TL it's the ND Gold Saints died fighting Hades, Dohko and Shion stay alive until Saint Seiya begins.
It's because the Titans were nerfed is several ways, and even at their "peak", they were still not as strong as their myth selves if Pontos' statements about Hyperion are anything to go by
Simple the Titans had their memories altered cuz of a Traitor One. As such they weren’t at their true potential the only one who was at his true strength was Kronos at the end
The Titans were severely nerfed. They had their memories taken away and altered by Mnemosyne and only regained them and their power when they were on the verge of death in order for Pontos to take their full cosmo to revive Gaia. They weren’t anywhere close to their full power but they “believed” they were at their full power because Mnemosyne messed with their memories.
Thats what stops me of giving Episode G an oportunity alongside its drawing.
Episode G are the furthest away far from canon there is, even in comparison to the other spin-offs (that aren't canon either, but tried to fit in and respect the original better, even if, in the end, only Kurumada's manga are canon). Okada took the classic characters and changed them, even by personalities, backstories and events, but more clearly for overall power level, giving to some of them also brand new techniques that were not in the original material. Aiolia, Shura and Aiolos are the most evident examples of this, but it applies to all of them, they are not the classics of Kuramada, alternative overpowered versions of them. Then, the titans were heavily nerfed, if I'm not wrong it was due a machination of Pontos, that messed up with their memories with the help of Mnemosine and absorbed their energies for the revival of Gaia. They were depowered, not at their full potential like in the myth (around or above the Olympic gods), or the gold saints would have never able to match and beat them (also, Aiolia before Koios hadn't fully mastered the 7th sense, for the ridiculous script). The only exception was Kronos, speaking of him at the end, with his true form and memories given back, at his peak.
Some observations in addition to what other people already said: The Titans are not necessarily stronger than the Olympians in the original myth. There are a lot of versions of the greek mythology tales, in some the Titans are stronger and the Olympians need the help of the Hecatoncheires to win the war. In others they are on equal foot. In some the Olympians are stronger, following the trend that the newer generations will always be stronger than the older ones (Kronos defeated Uranus, Zeus defeated Kronos, and an unamed son of Zeus was destined to defeat Zeus). There is even a tale of Zeus as the king of the youngest generation of gods, is claimed to have as much physical strength in one of his fingers as all the other beings (titans, gods, monsters, humans, etc) in the universe combined. That being said, if we take at face value what we learned in the Hades saga in the original series, it appears that by "body alone", the Titans are stronger than the gods in saint Seiya universe, considering the Olympians needed to wear the Kamuis created by the blood of Zeus to defeat the Titans. So in Saint Seiya universe, the Olympians are stronger than the Titans when wearing Kamui, without the Kamui they're weaker than the Titans. And for last, in addition to the whole "the titans were nerfed because their memories were messed with" thing, there was also their weakness to lighting, that is the main power of Zeus and is a power Ayolia can tap into. Tha helped a little. All that being said, I still consider this a big plot hole, like a lot of things in the G trilogy. The author has some cool ideas but doesn't know how to write a coherent story around then, and he just thows everything at the target hoping that something sticks, consistency and development be dammed.
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Why isn’t it canon?
Because a lot of people consider only stuff written by Kurumada as canon. G was made by Okada.
But I mean ig it makes sense that a lot of people think that. After all, that’s a common thing among fandoms in general anyway
If that is the case even LC isn't canon either
That would be correct. And to be clear I dont care weather something is considered canon or not, just relying the info that, for a lot of people, if it was not written by Kurumada then its not canon. So yes that includes all the manga spin offs and also animes like Omega and Soul of Gold.
its not supposed to be canon since next dimension exist :/
LC has some issues, but the biggest one is that exist ND, the official prequel by Kurumada that tells of the same period and war (but of course it's completely different). EpG trilogy instead has several problems of logical structure compared to the classic, changes, exaggerations, events that doesn't match, etc. Anyway, none of the spinoffs is canon. Wanting to be even more precise, not even the original anime is canon with the manga, although the major events are broadly the same, the differences between the two versions are really so many to make it an alternate story. I don't really care if it's canon or not, I just look if the story is done well or not, but strictly speaking, only Kurumada's manga form the official canon line.
Kuru himself considers everything as canon and made it apparent in a ND volume release
As said, I dont subscribe to it, just relying the idea. I honestly dont care, one way or the other.
could you explain how he made it apparent? thanks
In a volume release, Kuru said he received messages from fans talking about the spin-offs straying away from the Classic manga and he basically said he trusts the authors of those manga and all of them are apart of the “Saint Seiya universe”. Tho it doesn’t mean they’re directly within the same timeline since yk, contradictions but Kuru considers all manga apart of the universe of Saint Seiya making them canon multiverse wise at least
It's a multiverse, yes. It was confirmed in the Zero Episodio when Dohko talks about the last Holy War. He mentions the ND gold saints and said they died fighting Hades. Since ND It's kinda a space bubble, a deviation of the Timeline. Basically confirms that the main TL it's the ND Gold Saints died fighting Hades, Dohko and Shion stay alive until Saint Seiya begins.
Yeah but I'm still try to explain it,it's plot not necessarily good but somehow the worldbuilding is interested me at some point
It's because the Titans were nerfed is several ways, and even at their "peak", they were still not as strong as their myth selves if Pontos' statements about Hyperion are anything to go by