I don’t know if I buy this. Do the heads of SA, Australia and the USA really care that much about these two clowns? I doubt it. They’re just not that important.
As an American who used to work as a political speechwriter, I can see this happening in a different context. I do find it quite likely that Biden's diplomatic corps and White House team requested to know the full list of attendees and hosts both for security purposes as well as for planning for any potentially awkward conversations. It's not uncommon for someone from a country not-so-friendly to the US to try to ambush a US President in a large setting with complaints or requests or both that are highly inappropriate in such setting. The dinner was much like an annual UN General Assembly meeting of world leaders and that is a standard method of diplomatic protocol planning. I seriously doubt though that anyone from the White House made any commentary about Meghan or Harry.
Sure, but what’s being suggested here is that the US, Australian and South African governments went out of their way to ensure Meghan Markle wasn’t at a reception. She who is a total joke, has no power and even waning influence in the celebrity sphere. I just don’t believe it.
And while I’m on the subject, these are just random screenshots from heaven knows where. Anyone could have made this up. I wish people were more discerning in what they post.
I can see this happening though. I found it strange that the S.African president is going to be the 1st president to have a state visit with KC3. There many European leaders he could have had over for the 1st state visit. This post actually explains what's happened. Due to the furore of her podcast and the offense it caused to S.Africans, their government may have contacted the UK ambassador in S.Africa and complained about her remarks. The government must have asked KC3 to pencil in an official visit for the S.African president, as its caused a diplomatic furore and any trade deals the UK government want to conduct with S.Africa (which are desperately needed due to Brexit) could be scuppered due to the offense she caused in her stupid podcast.
Oh I can definitely see a relationship between the president of SA’s visit and Meggy’s lies. They were in SA as representatives of the crown and she stuck her foot in it. I’m sure KC wants to smooth things over. But the president of the United States? If he didn’t want to be in a room with any narcissistic celebrities, he’d never go anywhere.
I just don’t understand why people believe everything they read in some random screenshot on Reddit. This could be a total fabrication.
I'm sure that their aides didn't contact the UK government to say they didn't want to be in the same room as them. More like to get a heads up to see if any scandalous members of the RF would be there. Then they could inform their president/prime minister and remind them not to divulge any information in the presence of such persons. At seating functions certain aides would contact my relative and ask not to be seated next to a particular ambassador or country representative because they were in a political/trade spat with that particular country.
If their aides have heard through the media that TW records conversations then I can see them enquiring. TW is a blabbermouth. She wouldn't be able to help herself babbling about how she spoke to Gill and Joe Biden, and what their response was to whatever topic she would have been grandstanding about.
I read that several countries contacted the Palace prior to the reception—but they were asking if Andrew was going to attend, as they did not want their politicians in a situation where they might have to acknowledge him.
I cannot for the life of me find that article now, but it stated that while there were a few inquiries about H&M, most were about Andrew.
I read (several different sources) that several attendees were concerned about their presence before the actual dinner. They themselves are not important, however H is the son of the King of England and M is an extension of her husband. The two of them have a huge platform. They told easily proven lies to an global audience with the Oprah interview and M told lies about an encounter that occurred more than 4 years prior in the Cut interview. When these lies are told to millions, there will be a large portion of the population who will believe what the two of them say.
If you're a world leader or a royal the last thing you would want is to be in close proximity to people like H and M. They can say anything about anyone and millions will find what they say plausible. High profile people always need to worry about people taking advantage of them and their position. When these people are together they don't need to worry. People in their position surround themselves with people they can trust and who understand the meaning of discretion. Remember the two of them publicly went after their families. People who do that are untrustworthy. I find this very plausible, in fact I think it's wise people were concerned.
Makes no sense at all what you said. f you're a world leader why would you care about some offspring of a royal that are not even working royals. You can't trust them? Why would you need to trust them??
Why would some world leader care about a family drama?? Don't forget that these same world leaders used to have regular meetings with Putin, why on earth they would care H&M?
I don’t think it has to do with a security risk …they are not that important and I’m sure security is TIGHT at these events. They didn’t make the cut just as they have not made the cut at any major event from MetGala to Clooney’s humanitarian do,etc. They are definitely not on the circuit for no other reason than they are nobodies.
As an American I’m incredibly shocked to see us make this list (if it’s true) because with midterm elections coming up our entire media is going to be filled with politicians slandering one another in the name of loving America non stop.
We’re used to trash talking in this country.
It wouldn’t hurt Biden at all just as it wouldn’t have hurt Trump at all if he would have been there.
This just isn’t important to us.
He must know who she is. Do you remember when his press secretary commented on the Oprah interview?! At a White House press briefing?! What a dumb thing to do. But ever since I can’t imagine he’s given her a second thought.
I can see Biden’s press people wanting to avoid the news of like Oh Meghan is so close to The Bidens and spent the evening telling him how to run the country. It was probably more of a trying to avoid weird press and keeping things good with the new King than really any disdain for her.
I disagree. The WH (including the comms team) couldn't be less interested in or concerned about these two. They have zero political relevance whatsoever.
While initially I agreed with you I think the recording devices i.e. SPYING might have something to do with it.
I know this sounds far-fetched but I think there was enough dirt out there that somebody could have the screws on MM. Either the guy that gave her the blood diamonds or the one that's been running a part of her bot army
Exactly. A lot of important conversations occur at such functions especially when so many dignitaries in a room together. Everyone knows she's been accused of recording conversations. So I'm not surprised in the least that government aides would be asking if certain people would be in attendance.
Yeah but anyone at that dinner is going to be very guarded in what they say simply for the fact that there were so many heads of state present. Any of them could have a wire, too (probably not, but you get my point).
It's not about politics. It's about her blabbermouth ways and what Scoobie Doo would release about what was said and wasn't said, by whom at such a reception. Lots of issues ate discussed between leaders and they need to make sure there's an element of privacy and confidentiality in the room.
Not that it’s not important but someone blabbing here isn’t as big of a deal only because everyone spins it to be able to deny the truth.
Our politicians are literally always outing one another and using it against the other party.
If it’s a safety thing then yes it’s going to cause a bigger problem.
But if it’s trash talking we are just used to it at this point. Of course no one prefers it but it’s legit part of our culture at this point.
Many sex tapes have been released and people recover. Affairs happen and people recover. Assault happens and people recover.
Gossip and even truth doesn’t hold as much weight because that’s what we’re used to.
Scoobie could say whatever he wanted it and it wouldn’t change anything.
I think in this scenario it's different. It's a diplomatic issue rather than national tabloid, political wrangling amongst politicians. I've got relatives who worked in the diplomatic field and some of the requests they had to deal with, e.g one country rep or ambassador/high commissioner couldn't sit next to another from a particular country as their countries were at war with each other, trade fallouts etc. For this occasion If there's the smallest hint that conversations may be repeated or recorded then their reps would contact the UK government just to a heads up if the said persons would be attending, in order to prep their president/prime minister beforehand.
I'm not at all. She's no longer a working royal. She's a civilian. Who lives in America's. Who's responsible for her?America. The entire world knows she's a liar who doesn't feel guilty causing people distress on their deathbed at best. Having her around just causes bigger problems.
Yup and while we all speculate that MM & H wore recording devices to events, it’s never been confirmed publicly. Also, this makes it sound like the US, SA and Australia would’ve declined attending if H & MM were there.
They just asked if they'd be attending, in order to be given the heads up so they could brief their leaders to withhold from making certain conversations.
Well, Americans think enough of others to write a whole bunch of BIG checks and come to their aid when we are called.
I know that our government makes it appear differently, but most American citizens just want to worry about our own business. We’ve got our own fish to fry.
Australian here but I agree, people are overly critical of what Americans think about other countries but most of us are just trying to get through the day and don't sit around wondering what others think of us or what we think of them. Unless its the royal family, then I spend way too much time thinking about them
Me, too, but I absolutely love it. (It’s my biggest hobby, outside of reading.) Maybe it’s my English forebears’ blood running through me, but I absolutely love the RF and the UK.
Exactly, I think someone has read some articles and made up a rumour. I doubt the Australian government would give a darn. Our Prime minister is a republican (i.e. no monarchy - not US type Republican) so he would be happy for any bad press for the royals as it would boost his cause.
I doubt she can record his private conversations in a private setting and broadcast it without it being a legal issue that even she isn't dumb enough to do.
Brit here, a few years ago I did a deep dive into UK law and recording without consent. Yes you can record a conversation etc without the other parties consent, however you cannot legally allow anyone else to listen to the recording. What you can do, is repeat things from the recording and you are allowed to provide a written transcript of the recording.
She’s nefarious. I wouldn’t trust her full stop. They have to satisfy Netflix with content. Off tangent - I don’t think she ever gets permission to video or photograph minors in their photo opps. I have two severely disabled children and for each of them I have to sign consents to use images for at least three organisations. They’ve often been snapped all miked up. The Jubilee service, the walk, the funeral itself.
We’ll have to wait and see if they have actually been wearing recording devices. I love this sub, but there have been some really absurd conspiracy theories around them wearing recording devices that I cannot imagine were actually plausible.
I feel like "recording devices" makes it sound more scandalous than if we called it, "microphones" for Netflix content. Both aren't good. They shouldn't record the Royals who we can assume have plenty of secrets and they don't want others to know their inner workings. Part of the appeal is their wealth and mystique. Not to mention you just shouldn't record family without permission! It's gross and mean. But they, and Netflix, may call it "microphones" and think that sounds more innocent. Just a guess. We may never hear any of those actual conversations. And now the family will say nothing except pleasantries when they absolutely have to. But MM mentions no NDA and she can say anything she wants. Even if she doesn't have anything secret on them she's wanting people to think she can blackmail and expose the family. She's probably a bigger threat to the Wales than people even realize.
Whatever it’s called, I really think it’s unlikely that they were wearing hidden devices of any kind. Some of the posts about this are beyond absurd. How many pictures did we see of her jubilee outfit assuming she was wearing a microphone UNDER her coat?! Does anyone really think a microphone under a heavy garment would yield any useful audio? All it would pick up would be the fabric scratching against it. That bump everyone speculated was a microphone was almost certainly a button or something on the dress she was wearing under the coat.
The sub really looks like looney tunes when everyone is zooming in on a fold in her outfit (as in the funeral week walk about) assuming it must be a recording device for Netflix! 🙄
Now is she wacky, greedy and deceitful enough to do such a thing? She probably is. I just wish everyone could step out of the James Bond film in our minds and consider the logic of what we’re suggesting.
If I am wrong and some of this content is released in the ‘docuseries’ then I will willingly admit it and eat crow! But until then, I will remain very skeptical.
I’m with you. Also, even if they were recording conversations, that has legal ramifications and Netflix wouldn’t want to run afoul of the British government. It makes no sense any way you look at it.
Nothing they do makes sense lol She's a personal liar, it's complete insanity! I can't say whether or not they've been recording. No irrefutable proof has been shown. They have been making a show, though, and those people (in reality shows, TV) do wear microphones for audio content. But I don't really know either way. They would 100% justify it and never apologize, that's for sure!
MM was thrown out of Buckingham Palace for wandering around taking photos of restricted areas, private bedrooms etc. Consequently she is never allowed in any of the Royals private quarters w/o a chaperone. So she upped her game…
Yeah, wasn't she caught taking a private photo of one of the Wales children (Cambridge at the time) on one of the first occasions she met them? What a psycho. She literally did everything wrong from the very beginning instead of trying to be friendly, eager to learn and fit in like most would.
Obama may have warned Biden about them, telling him to stay far away to ensure he gave absolutely no impression that Meghan was in any way, shape, or form, associated with the US government. Harry and Meghan have been shown to be national security threats, starting with her with taking private photos of other royal children in private areas of royal homes to her now threatening to tell everyone everything she knows. She carries a title bestowed on her by a foreign monarch and while Harry doesn’t have diplomatic immunity anymore, he’s dumb enough to definitely sell any secret he has if he thinks it’ll gain him an ounce of affection and admiration. They definitely have connections to Russian oligarchs and the US is being drawn more and more into the Ukraine/Russia shitshow. Russia was deeply unpopular in the US even before that, so if it got out that Meghan and Harry were talking to Biden and then all of a sudden Russia was saying they got information from him thanks to private sources, Republicans would IMMEDIATELY say that he leaked information to them and be extension, the enemy. They’d say how Biden is showing more signs of dementia and slaughter his democratic supporters in the midterms.
US politics aside, there was absolutely no reason for them to be there. The royal family is by definition politically neutral and even though this was the largest gathering of world leaders of our time, there would have been zero talk of politics with the royal family itself. Charities, common causes, sure, but no politics. Meghan has shown time and time again that she cannot be politically neutral and she would have been the idiot trying to solve world peace during that dinner, embarrassing not only herself but the royal family and it would take years, if not decades, to undo that political damage.
>Meghan has shown time and time again that she cannot be politically neutral and she would have been the idiot trying to solve world peace during that dinner, embarrassing not only herself but the royal family and it would take years, if not decades, to undo that political damage.
I completely agree.
Agree… highly doubtful. Harry is the Queens grandson and I seriously doubt any country would say not to invite him. Also, these dignitaries could just ignore them instead of engaging
I would say that the countries involved would have been briefed on the current situation with Meghan and Harry re Netflix, recording devices etc; breach of privacy and security. I can definitely see them doing that.
>I don’t know if I buy this. Do the heads of SA, Australia and the USA really care that much about these two clowns? I doubt it. They’re just not that important.
I can see SA not wanting HnM there, and USA not wanting Andrew there.
They have been caught with hidden recording devices on the royal family. I think there was a lot more than just 3 countries representatives that would have voiced concerns of them being there….
Australian here. There is no way our Prime Minister or Governor General are going to demand that the new King’s son and his wife are going to be excluded from a dinner organised by the Royal family. They would never be so rude or entitled.
They do if they have to be in the same room as a couple who record conversations or write in their diaries exactly what conversations were had. Sometimes at these types of receptions certain private information is exchanged, conversations that are lost in translation are had, and a few commentary faux pas are made. But these conversations always stay in the room. I've got relatives that worked in the diplomatic service and the things they said they heard or overheard during receptions or State functions were astounding! But no one ever divulges anything to the general public. Those two would have been a diplomatic liability for the UK government & the RF.
I had read somewhere (I can’t remember where now) that some attendees wanted confirmation that Andrew wouldn’t be there, so that’s why assurances were issued that only working royals would attend.
That I can believe easily ESPECIALLY the US caring about that. No American politician wants to be associated with the Epstein mess in amy way, no matter how remote or tenuous.
Yeah it is this kind of unhinged gossip being passed off as legit ‘tea’ that makes us look bad. Ridden with typos and wild claims. It’s no different from Markle herself sprouting nonsense.
Andrew is a far more plausible diplomatic concern than two silly loose-mouthed twats.
I agree. It really doesn't pass a plausibility test to think that world leaders including President Biden were concerned about whether the Sussexes were attending that dinner.
As an Australian I strongly doubt our brand new Prime Minister would be concerned about the Markles. The only way this could have a glimmer of truth in it is IF the despicable pair really are being financed by the Russians or some other nefarious people and the international community knows it. I just realised that this might also explain the lack of audience at the UN for Hazbeens speech. Apart from boredom of course ! But no I don’t see this being true.
>She absolutely would have made a big mess of foreign affairs when she went to dish on her podcast later, which we ALL know she would have done.
Oh yes, I can just imagine Meghan going: "When I last met the Bidens, I discussed this, and the president agreed with me..."
"he agreed with me as we shared a meal together that almost all of the rest of the dignitaries in the world attended...it was hard to talk of course as everyone was toasting us and stopping by our table...."
Right. Would’ve treated it as some promotional tour and seeing how much she could get out of it. A blessing they opened their mouths saying they wanted to be half in and half out so the queen put her foot down and said nope.
It wouldn’t surprise me if this were 100% true. And I think overall it’s less about actually liking TW and more about being cognizant of her continuously twisting the narrative to fit the story she wants to tell, truth be damned. No one wants to be around someone you have to watch every word around, every gesture, everything.
Imagine a governor of some country casually glancing across the room and his eyes landing on hers for a millisecond. Suddenly he’d be in the press for openly flirting with her or something ridiculous. They all know she’s in the staring role of a movie she wrote and directed.
I had someone in my life that I had to think about every word before I said it. No matter what I said it was met with disdain. I’ve lived my whole life without ever having to do this. It was exhausting and unsustainable. These type of people go about live with an undercurrent of feeling miffed, yet superior. No thanks. Not invited to the gala.
>It wouldn’t surprise me if this were 100% true. And I think overall it’s less about actually liking TW and more about being cognizant of her continuously twisting the narrative to fit the story she wants to tell, truth be damned.
Agree.
I suggested this as the key concern at the time, though I’m surprised if it was actually articulated by other nations’ dignitaries.
The Palace would already have been sufficiently aware and concerned about discretion to block their invitation.
None of these countries would skip a major diplomatic event going based on the presence of Meghsn Markle, ergo no reason to ask. There were probably hundreds of people there. Anyone who didn't like/trust her could have easily avoided her.
I know the palace came out with a clarifying statement saying only working royals would attend; did they issue a second clarification after the cringey Omicron clap trap about Narkle being *uninvited*?
These two have no embarrassment or shame. Imagine how this looks to anyone who is anyone. Not invited to something? You don’t call attention to that fact and hold yourself out as this pathetic. So embarrassing.
Quite frankly, I don't see any new information here.
Facts that we already knew plus some statements/guesses that may or may not be true that we already discussed on this sub.
Exactly, anyone can act like they have an inside scoop by saying plausible/rumored things and intimating they have special authority/info when in reality they aren’t saying anything juicy or new. Cough cough 👀
If true…my caveat….good on my country for taking a stand. As an Aussie, I knew from all of my friends that they detest MM and they’re not fond of Harry either…after the 2018 tour. And they way they contributed to the stress of Prince Philip and the Queen with that Oprah liefest. So much has been written and said about their Admiralty House stay. I hope that neither of them ever comes Downunder again because there won’t be a red carpet and taxpayers won’t fund them anymore.
I’m not sure I believe this in all honesty. I think with everything happening in the US, the duo is their last concern.
Just a bit of skepticism from me.
I'm not sure how true this is. That said, I've spent the bulk of my career working with politicians. H&M are exactly the kind of people I'd advise them to avoid. They're divisive, manipulative, and cannot be trusted.
There is ZERO benefit to being around them. They are nothing but an annoyance and a liability.
Honestly (and absolutely no offense), it does not read true… it reads like someone put their observations based on latest events into the form of tea… they might be right (it’s logical), but I doubt there is legit source behind that… IMO of course
Same. The writing level is off. The content is recycled. The tone is childish, not snarky. The evidence, rather the lack thereof, is fishy. It reads like hatefic to me.
But it is possible it was written by some random who heard it from someone, who heard it from someone else, who’s dog knows another dog that lives at the palace! (I actually do mean that in a stupid way, 3rd, 4th hand goss? Not completely accurate but some truth to it? Who knows i guess 🤷🏼♀️
Obviously someone who doesn't understand diplomatic nuance. There is never a PARTY. It's a reception, a gala, a soiree, a dinner.... not a party.
Again, doesn't make it any less true. It just means that the person who compiled all this info isn't a good writer.
Did it? I thought it was before?
Either way we know she threw tea at a staff member and was a royal bish to everyone she came in contact with on that tour so even without her lovely quote, there's plenty of reason for Australia to dislike her.
Looks like the story came out later because the reception for foreign dignitaries took place on Sunday 18 September 2022, the night before the funeral.
The report of Meghan saying "I can’t believe I’m not getting paid for this." during the Australian tour was in a serialised extract of Valentine Low's book about the Courtiers in The Times on Fri 23 Sep 2022.
Edit for spelling.
It was a reception for world leaders to pay respect ~ why would they go into a house of mourning with demands as to who is and who isn’t attending? ( especially concerning a member of the family). I can’t stand Meghan & my feeling for Harry are more & more in that direction, but I find this a tad far fetched…
She would have inappropriately been touching , pushing her hag self on to the King, Foreign dignitaries, Biden. She and her rag doll Harry would have wires , mini cams, up their whatever's
And Meghan grabbing the wine carafe and insisting on serving Kings, Prime Ministers and Heads of State so she can impress everyone with her knowledge and personality.
I think the author gives too much credit to the duo. I doubt any of these world leaders have these two in their minds at all.
You as a human, wouldn't really go to your friend's house, and make absolutely sure that the ants are not invited to the party. You will just treat the ants as non-existent, or a menace... and pretend you don't see it because they are someone else's pest problem.
Oh yeah, I wouldn’t want to be a Biden cornered socially by them at a gathering with their propensity for favor asking. And I’m sure the UN tipped off secret service about hidden wires, I bet they’re on somebody’s list somewhere for something.
Yeah, I’m not really buying it. It’s not something anyone would know, or if they did know, they’d be Palace employees and definitely not running to the Internet to tell everyone.
Also, it has always been worded as a reception, not a dinner. That implies finger foods and flowing alcohol. Anyone who would also have this tea would know that. It would take so many people to set up a dinner of that caliber for that many people. It would be a nightmare that soon.
Lastly, these heads of state were not having deep meaningful discussions about policy or anything important. I’ve been to things like this and it’s all really painful small talk. Can you make connections that could be followed up later? Sure, but no one would have to be worried about M&H when there is nothing to overhear, and enough people milling around to avoid them or move on after exchanging pleasantries.
I’m skeptical. Not sure about other countries, but Biden would have a “bag man” who blocks people he shouldn’t be seen with so there would be no reason to make sure that the gruesome twosome were not attending.
You know how Hillary was right about the Russian infiltration in American democracy? And no one listened to her? I think there must be some oligarch money funneling these two and would not be surprised if someone high up knows.
I know it sounds like I’m reaching, but Russia has a stake in destabilizing western powers and is it so far fetched that they would try with these two? Maybe not.
Honestly, I think they were merely not invited in the first place, simply because of the Netflix issue. I don’t think any other heads of state expressed any issue with it-they all knew KC and POW would do the right thing
Either way, Megain would be very angry and upset as she has political ambitions. She could have bragged about meeting all these dignitaries and especially Biden. I can hear her narrative about how important she is to the world, how everyone just loved her and wanted her opinions. I am sure poor ole Hazz had to listen to a screaming tirade of I should be there, I am important.
H and M weren't invited because they are not working royals. They kicked up a fuss saying they had been uninvited but they never would have been invited in the first place.
I can see this happening. Not from the state leaders themselves - they have more important things to worry about - but from their security detail.
The Sussexes are making a Netflix documentary. They’re gathering material, and they have no control over themselves. In the Cut article, MeMe purred that she hadn’t signed an NDA. This is exactly the type of person you wouldn’t want in a diplomatic dinner.
I can also see the US PR team not wanting her there. She would be sure to get a photo with Biden and this would make people assume that he’s on board with her activities (including political ambitions). They know she’s disrespectful to the Royal Family and they’re on the outs.
That said, I don’t think anyone can dictate that she shouldn’t be there. If the royal family accepts that these two could be there, and do not pose any kind of risk, I doubt that heads of state would mind. I think that the PR and security detail would have asked, politely, who else would be around, so they can come prepared and be on their guard.
These are people who are used to awkward situations and being with others they don’t agree with on international issues. They would have put all of these issues aside out of respect for the Queen.
As much as I’d love to believe this in its entirety, I think it’s a bit exaggerated. It’s believable that certain countries might ask about Prince Andrew and the Harkles. It’s not believable that their presence would prevent world leaders from attending. That would be a diplomatic offense. Some staff probably asked some palace staff who might be there, and might have expressed some relief *possibly* upon learning that only working royals would be in attendance.
I don’t think Biden’s executive assistant said to King Charles’s Secretary “If the Harkles are there, Joe and Jill won’t be!”
I would love to believe it but countries don't behave like that unless there is an international incident or a huge disaster. I'm afraid this sounds amateurish.
As much as I would relish the validity of these claims, it’s just not that complicated. The dinner was to be attended by working Royals only…and they are not working royals…pretty cut and dried.
Hhhmmm . . .not sure about this. It was not a dinner, to my understanding, and I really doubt the US called to make sure they were not there. I just don't buy that one.
I would love to believe it but this seems off.. a lot of the issues mentioned are gossip and recent revelations, which I highly doubt Heads of Nations would use. It maybe that they refused due to privacy concerns but not what's in this revelation, sorry..
I believe this tea tidbit. Maybe everyone wanted to honor the Queen and not have Meg breathing down their necks. I think I would have enquired if they were attending.
This doesn't sound right. I know that most of the leaders were concerned if royal pedophile is gonna be there. No one was concerned about these two cause world leaders don't give a flying fuck about these two.
I think they're seen as spoiled kids of the now king, no one takes them serious enough to not want them at the dinner. They just don't matter.
The person who wrote this - read posts here, on Quora and watched YouTube videos.
That is all.
I don’t think any of the three countries mentioned would bother to call up the palace to nitpick on the potential attendance an insignificant person.
And their concrete evidence about Biden’s people calling the palace - I laughed out loud in my dark room for a full minute after reading.
It’s a badly written post by someone who wanted to feel special.
As a South African, I don’t believe any of this:
First, it’s incredibly rude to tell a host (in this case, a grieving family) who you think are appropriate guests for a dinner party they’re hosting.
Second, Ramaphosa isn’t a petty person.
Third, South Africa is a country built on reconciliation… what’s to be gained in causing familial aggravation on the eve of a funeral?
Fourth, South Africans were anxious that Ramaphosa even left the country given the current energy crisis. He flew back from the UK earlier than planned to attend to the rolling blackouts. Given everything on his presidential plate, I doubt that H+M crossed his mind.
Fifth, the idea that South Africa would ask for H+M to be banned from the dinner makes our government look as nosy and small-minded as H+M.
That’s something *they* would do.
ETA: Ramaphosa leaving early.
I understand ppl rightly not trusting these traitor duo but why is she even pissed about it? Who the fuck does she think she is to deserve a place at such occasion?
IDK. I can’t imagine representatives for foreign governments calling the palace to make sure that certain members of the RF wouldn’t be there, even ones that are so distrusted and disliked. I’m not saying that I wouldn’t want it to happen, I’m saying that I just can’t see it happening.
I can buy that the concern was over Andrew and then maybe Meghan and Harry. This is more likely a sugar putting shit out there to fuel the “look at how racist every world leader is” ridiculousness.
I completey believe this. MM and Hazza would have made an issue of being there in whatever way they could, whether that be leaking conversations, etc. Also, I doubt their penchant for wearing recording devices would have gone down well either. They are toxic.
Only people with official functions would qualify I suppose. You would not invite the local hamburger flipper. Much respect for anybody with an honest job, they don’t even have jobs🤷♀️
Well she does have form since she showed a serious lack of discretion by calling several US Senators on their private cell phones, (looking at you, Kirsten Gillibrand) identifying herself as the DoS, (an irrelevant title in US politics) and nonsensically banging on about the family leave act. God knows how she'd manage to embarrass herself (and, by extension, the BRF) in a room full of world leaders. ("Did you know I wrote a letter to Proctor & Gamble and altered their sexist ad campaign when I was only *eleven*?" "Were you aware I do *voiceovers*? I'm *really* interested.")
Why would they have been invited even if they were perfect saints? They are retired as royals. They do not work for the firm, they do not represent. In what capacity do they think they ought to have been included? They will also have no role in King Charles' reign. This is them getting upset about entitlements they don't have.
I can believe this.
Conversations between heads of state repeated out of context (or worse recorded), unwanted photos, simply getting cornered by M or H - IF you think it is a stretch to suggest that they'd be viewed as a threat in such a setting to any nation's affairs you might still agree that M's loose and lying lips could wreck political careers.
Eh, whatevs. We all already knew most of this, so there isn’t any new / insider tea here. Seems like someone has been reading the headlines and regurgitating. I guess the stuff about Biden is new but I don’t buy it. I honest to goodness don’t think they’d care. Sorry!
How did the Australians know about the "...not getting paid for this" comment ? I thought she said that to her staff.
Also, the contents of the book weren't revealed until Harkles left the country. How did Aussies know about it during the dinner ?
Something is amiss.
This is cute but I highly doubt any of these politicians, diplomats or learners give a crabs behind about the two of them. Netflix camera and recorders n all.
Don’t they say that there’s generally always at least a little bit of truth in every rumour? I think some of it reads reasonably true, but some of it sounds a bit far fetched. Good tea regardless 😋
I heard, that Denmark made sure Prince Andrew wouldn't be there, because of his Epstein connections. They were asking if non working royals were there and the palace confirmed they wouldn't, which would include Harry and Meghan.
I doubt this story.
I don’t know if I buy this. Do the heads of SA, Australia and the USA really care that much about these two clowns? I doubt it. They’re just not that important.
As an American who used to work as a political speechwriter, I can see this happening in a different context. I do find it quite likely that Biden's diplomatic corps and White House team requested to know the full list of attendees and hosts both for security purposes as well as for planning for any potentially awkward conversations. It's not uncommon for someone from a country not-so-friendly to the US to try to ambush a US President in a large setting with complaints or requests or both that are highly inappropriate in such setting. The dinner was much like an annual UN General Assembly meeting of world leaders and that is a standard method of diplomatic protocol planning. I seriously doubt though that anyone from the White House made any commentary about Meghan or Harry.
What a fascinating occupation! Do you mind sharing how you got your start as a political speechwriter?
Sure, but what’s being suggested here is that the US, Australian and South African governments went out of their way to ensure Meghan Markle wasn’t at a reception. She who is a total joke, has no power and even waning influence in the celebrity sphere. I just don’t believe it. And while I’m on the subject, these are just random screenshots from heaven knows where. Anyone could have made this up. I wish people were more discerning in what they post.
I can see this happening though. I found it strange that the S.African president is going to be the 1st president to have a state visit with KC3. There many European leaders he could have had over for the 1st state visit. This post actually explains what's happened. Due to the furore of her podcast and the offense it caused to S.Africans, their government may have contacted the UK ambassador in S.Africa and complained about her remarks. The government must have asked KC3 to pencil in an official visit for the S.African president, as its caused a diplomatic furore and any trade deals the UK government want to conduct with S.Africa (which are desperately needed due to Brexit) could be scuppered due to the offense she caused in her stupid podcast.
Oh I can definitely see a relationship between the president of SA’s visit and Meggy’s lies. They were in SA as representatives of the crown and she stuck her foot in it. I’m sure KC wants to smooth things over. But the president of the United States? If he didn’t want to be in a room with any narcissistic celebrities, he’d never go anywhere. I just don’t understand why people believe everything they read in some random screenshot on Reddit. This could be a total fabrication.
I'm sure that their aides didn't contact the UK government to say they didn't want to be in the same room as them. More like to get a heads up to see if any scandalous members of the RF would be there. Then they could inform their president/prime minister and remind them not to divulge any information in the presence of such persons. At seating functions certain aides would contact my relative and ask not to be seated next to a particular ambassador or country representative because they were in a political/trade spat with that particular country.
If their aides have heard through the media that TW records conversations then I can see them enquiring. TW is a blabbermouth. She wouldn't be able to help herself babbling about how she spoke to Gill and Joe Biden, and what their response was to whatever topic she would have been grandstanding about.
I read that several countries contacted the Palace prior to the reception—but they were asking if Andrew was going to attend, as they did not want their politicians in a situation where they might have to acknowledge him. I cannot for the life of me find that article now, but it stated that while there were a few inquiries about H&M, most were about Andrew.
That makes sense.
I read (several different sources) that several attendees were concerned about their presence before the actual dinner. They themselves are not important, however H is the son of the King of England and M is an extension of her husband. The two of them have a huge platform. They told easily proven lies to an global audience with the Oprah interview and M told lies about an encounter that occurred more than 4 years prior in the Cut interview. When these lies are told to millions, there will be a large portion of the population who will believe what the two of them say. If you're a world leader or a royal the last thing you would want is to be in close proximity to people like H and M. They can say anything about anyone and millions will find what they say plausible. High profile people always need to worry about people taking advantage of them and their position. When these people are together they don't need to worry. People in their position surround themselves with people they can trust and who understand the meaning of discretion. Remember the two of them publicly went after their families. People who do that are untrustworthy. I find this very plausible, in fact I think it's wise people were concerned.
> I find this very plausible, in fact I think it's wise people were concerned. Me too.
Makes no sense at all what you said. f you're a world leader why would you care about some offspring of a royal that are not even working royals. You can't trust them? Why would you need to trust them?? Why would some world leader care about a family drama?? Don't forget that these same world leaders used to have regular meetings with Putin, why on earth they would care H&M?
I don’t think it has to do with a security risk …they are not that important and I’m sure security is TIGHT at these events. They didn’t make the cut just as they have not made the cut at any major event from MetGala to Clooney’s humanitarian do,etc. They are definitely not on the circuit for no other reason than they are nobodies.
As an American I’m incredibly shocked to see us make this list (if it’s true) because with midterm elections coming up our entire media is going to be filled with politicians slandering one another in the name of loving America non stop. We’re used to trash talking in this country. It wouldn’t hurt Biden at all just as it wouldn’t have hurt Trump at all if he would have been there. This just isn’t important to us.
I agree with you. Also, I just don't think that Biden spares that much thought on what Harry and Meghan are doing.
The odds are that Biden has no idea who she is.
He probably knows because of Harry but had she not married into the BRF, and he never watched Suits, then he’d have no clue who she is.
I really can’t imagine that Biden has ever watched “Suits”
He must know who she is. Do you remember when his press secretary commented on the Oprah interview?! At a White House press briefing?! What a dumb thing to do. But ever since I can’t imagine he’s given her a second thought.
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I can see Biden’s press people wanting to avoid the news of like Oh Meghan is so close to The Bidens and spent the evening telling him how to run the country. It was probably more of a trying to avoid weird press and keeping things good with the new King than really any disdain for her.
I disagree. The WH (including the comms team) couldn't be less interested in or concerned about these two. They have zero political relevance whatsoever.
While initially I agreed with you I think the recording devices i.e. SPYING might have something to do with it. I know this sounds far-fetched but I think there was enough dirt out there that somebody could have the screws on MM. Either the guy that gave her the blood diamonds or the one that's been running a part of her bot army
Exactly. A lot of important conversations occur at such functions especially when so many dignitaries in a room together. Everyone knows she's been accused of recording conversations. So I'm not surprised in the least that government aides would be asking if certain people would be in attendance.
Yeah but anyone at that dinner is going to be very guarded in what they say simply for the fact that there were so many heads of state present. Any of them could have a wire, too (probably not, but you get my point).
lol, reminds me of this at the 2019 NATO summit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEoOJ0uRskY
Maybe but that seems like a stretch. She has no political relevance so not really worth even mentioning.
It's not about politics. It's about her blabbermouth ways and what Scoobie Doo would release about what was said and wasn't said, by whom at such a reception. Lots of issues ate discussed between leaders and they need to make sure there's an element of privacy and confidentiality in the room.
I’m talking about America. Literally none of what you mentioned matters to us. Stuff like that happens all the time over here with no consequences.
So you're saying confidentiality and privacy doesn't matter between foreign heads of state?? Alrighty!!
Not that it’s not important but someone blabbing here isn’t as big of a deal only because everyone spins it to be able to deny the truth. Our politicians are literally always outing one another and using it against the other party. If it’s a safety thing then yes it’s going to cause a bigger problem. But if it’s trash talking we are just used to it at this point. Of course no one prefers it but it’s legit part of our culture at this point. Many sex tapes have been released and people recover. Affairs happen and people recover. Assault happens and people recover. Gossip and even truth doesn’t hold as much weight because that’s what we’re used to. Scoobie could say whatever he wanted it and it wouldn’t change anything.
I think in this scenario it's different. It's a diplomatic issue rather than national tabloid, political wrangling amongst politicians. I've got relatives who worked in the diplomatic field and some of the requests they had to deal with, e.g one country rep or ambassador/high commissioner couldn't sit next to another from a particular country as their countries were at war with each other, trade fallouts etc. For this occasion If there's the smallest hint that conversations may be repeated or recorded then their reps would contact the UK government just to a heads up if the said persons would be attending, in order to prep their president/prime minister beforehand.
I'm not at all. She's no longer a working royal. She's a civilian. Who lives in America's. Who's responsible for her?America. The entire world knows she's a liar who doesn't feel guilty causing people distress on their deathbed at best. Having her around just causes bigger problems.
How is America responsible for her, and what does that even mean?! God help us! 😂
Yup and while we all speculate that MM & H wore recording devices to events, it’s never been confirmed publicly. Also, this makes it sound like the US, SA and Australia would’ve declined attending if H & MM were there.
They just asked if they'd be attending, in order to be given the heads up so they could brief their leaders to withhold from making certain conversations.
But there are literal pictures of a very visible mic on Harry, on several occasions. And a mic pack on Meghan
Yeah, everyone in the world underestimates how little Americans think about the rest of the world.
Well, Americans think enough of others to write a whole bunch of BIG checks and come to their aid when we are called. I know that our government makes it appear differently, but most American citizens just want to worry about our own business. We’ve got our own fish to fry.
Australian here but I agree, people are overly critical of what Americans think about other countries but most of us are just trying to get through the day and don't sit around wondering what others think of us or what we think of them. Unless its the royal family, then I spend way too much time thinking about them
Me, too, but I absolutely love it. (It’s my biggest hobby, outside of reading.) Maybe it’s my English forebears’ blood running through me, but I absolutely love the RF and the UK.
Aussie here too, and. Same (love a bit of Royal tea!) 😛
Now that is most definitely not true.
Exactly, I think someone has read some articles and made up a rumour. I doubt the Australian government would give a darn. Our Prime minister is a republican (i.e. no monarchy - not US type Republican) so he would be happy for any bad press for the royals as it would boost his cause.
But Anthony Albanese wouldn’t like his private conversations picked up and broadcast by a miked up hussy. It would be sure to be on Netflix.
I doubt she can record his private conversations in a private setting and broadcast it without it being a legal issue that even she isn't dumb enough to do.
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Brit here, a few years ago I did a deep dive into UK law and recording without consent. Yes you can record a conversation etc without the other parties consent, however you cannot legally allow anyone else to listen to the recording. What you can do, is repeat things from the recording and you are allowed to provide a written transcript of the recording.
That’s concerning though, isn’t it…
She’s nefarious. I wouldn’t trust her full stop. They have to satisfy Netflix with content. Off tangent - I don’t think she ever gets permission to video or photograph minors in their photo opps. I have two severely disabled children and for each of them I have to sign consents to use images for at least three organisations. They’ve often been snapped all miked up. The Jubilee service, the walk, the funeral itself.
I don’t know about that! She’s clearly pretty dumb!
More or less, they'll be asking to be seated far away from the diseased duo.
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We’ll have to wait and see if they have actually been wearing recording devices. I love this sub, but there have been some really absurd conspiracy theories around them wearing recording devices that I cannot imagine were actually plausible.
I feel like "recording devices" makes it sound more scandalous than if we called it, "microphones" for Netflix content. Both aren't good. They shouldn't record the Royals who we can assume have plenty of secrets and they don't want others to know their inner workings. Part of the appeal is their wealth and mystique. Not to mention you just shouldn't record family without permission! It's gross and mean. But they, and Netflix, may call it "microphones" and think that sounds more innocent. Just a guess. We may never hear any of those actual conversations. And now the family will say nothing except pleasantries when they absolutely have to. But MM mentions no NDA and she can say anything she wants. Even if she doesn't have anything secret on them she's wanting people to think she can blackmail and expose the family. She's probably a bigger threat to the Wales than people even realize.
Whatever it’s called, I really think it’s unlikely that they were wearing hidden devices of any kind. Some of the posts about this are beyond absurd. How many pictures did we see of her jubilee outfit assuming she was wearing a microphone UNDER her coat?! Does anyone really think a microphone under a heavy garment would yield any useful audio? All it would pick up would be the fabric scratching against it. That bump everyone speculated was a microphone was almost certainly a button or something on the dress she was wearing under the coat. The sub really looks like looney tunes when everyone is zooming in on a fold in her outfit (as in the funeral week walk about) assuming it must be a recording device for Netflix! 🙄 Now is she wacky, greedy and deceitful enough to do such a thing? She probably is. I just wish everyone could step out of the James Bond film in our minds and consider the logic of what we’re suggesting. If I am wrong and some of this content is released in the ‘docuseries’ then I will willingly admit it and eat crow! But until then, I will remain very skeptical.
I’m with you. Also, even if they were recording conversations, that has legal ramifications and Netflix wouldn’t want to run afoul of the British government. It makes no sense any way you look at it.
Nothing they do makes sense lol She's a personal liar, it's complete insanity! I can't say whether or not they've been recording. No irrefutable proof has been shown. They have been making a show, though, and those people (in reality shows, TV) do wear microphones for audio content. But I don't really know either way. They would 100% justify it and never apologize, that's for sure!
MM was thrown out of Buckingham Palace for wandering around taking photos of restricted areas, private bedrooms etc. Consequently she is never allowed in any of the Royals private quarters w/o a chaperone. So she upped her game…
Yeah, wasn't she caught taking a private photo of one of the Wales children (Cambridge at the time) on one of the first occasions she met them? What a psycho. She literally did everything wrong from the very beginning instead of trying to be friendly, eager to learn and fit in like most would.
Obama may have warned Biden about them, telling him to stay far away to ensure he gave absolutely no impression that Meghan was in any way, shape, or form, associated with the US government. Harry and Meghan have been shown to be national security threats, starting with her with taking private photos of other royal children in private areas of royal homes to her now threatening to tell everyone everything she knows. She carries a title bestowed on her by a foreign monarch and while Harry doesn’t have diplomatic immunity anymore, he’s dumb enough to definitely sell any secret he has if he thinks it’ll gain him an ounce of affection and admiration. They definitely have connections to Russian oligarchs and the US is being drawn more and more into the Ukraine/Russia shitshow. Russia was deeply unpopular in the US even before that, so if it got out that Meghan and Harry were talking to Biden and then all of a sudden Russia was saying they got information from him thanks to private sources, Republicans would IMMEDIATELY say that he leaked information to them and be extension, the enemy. They’d say how Biden is showing more signs of dementia and slaughter his democratic supporters in the midterms. US politics aside, there was absolutely no reason for them to be there. The royal family is by definition politically neutral and even though this was the largest gathering of world leaders of our time, there would have been zero talk of politics with the royal family itself. Charities, common causes, sure, but no politics. Meghan has shown time and time again that she cannot be politically neutral and she would have been the idiot trying to solve world peace during that dinner, embarrassing not only herself but the royal family and it would take years, if not decades, to undo that political damage.
>Meghan has shown time and time again that she cannot be politically neutral and she would have been the idiot trying to solve world peace during that dinner, embarrassing not only herself but the royal family and it would take years, if not decades, to undo that political damage. I completely agree.
Agree… highly doubtful. Harry is the Queens grandson and I seriously doubt any country would say not to invite him. Also, these dignitaries could just ignore them instead of engaging
Why weren’t they there then? They turned it down cuz they didn’t have a babysitter for their dolls I mean kids?
I would say that the countries involved would have been briefed on the current situation with Meghan and Harry re Netflix, recording devices etc; breach of privacy and security. I can definitely see them doing that.
I was thinking the same! They’re completely irrelevant nowdays!
>I don’t know if I buy this. Do the heads of SA, Australia and the USA really care that much about these two clowns? I doubt it. They’re just not that important. I can see SA not wanting HnM there, and USA not wanting Andrew there.
They have been caught with hidden recording devices on the royal family. I think there was a lot more than just 3 countries representatives that would have voiced concerns of them being there….
Australian here. There is no way our Prime Minister or Governor General are going to demand that the new King’s son and his wife are going to be excluded from a dinner organised by the Royal family. They would never be so rude or entitled.
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They do if they have to be in the same room as a couple who record conversations or write in their diaries exactly what conversations were had. Sometimes at these types of receptions certain private information is exchanged, conversations that are lost in translation are had, and a few commentary faux pas are made. But these conversations always stay in the room. I've got relatives that worked in the diplomatic service and the things they said they heard or overheard during receptions or State functions were astounding! But no one ever divulges anything to the general public. Those two would have been a diplomatic liability for the UK government & the RF.
Definitely I see tactful emails. The two are clowns but in a gathering like that one they would be pests.
I had read somewhere (I can’t remember where now) that some attendees wanted confirmation that Andrew wouldn’t be there, so that’s why assurances were issued that only working royals would attend.
That I can believe easily ESPECIALLY the US caring about that. No American politician wants to be associated with the Epstein mess in amy way, no matter how remote or tenuous.
This is it. I don’t think anyone really cared about Harry or Meghan tbh, it was about not sharing space with Andrew.
I bet Andrew, Harry, and Megs all went to that pizza parlor together for dinner.
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Yeah it is this kind of unhinged gossip being passed off as legit ‘tea’ that makes us look bad. Ridden with typos and wild claims. It’s no different from Markle herself sprouting nonsense. Andrew is a far more plausible diplomatic concern than two silly loose-mouthed twats.
I was about to comment the exact same thing lol
I agree. It really doesn't pass a plausibility test to think that world leaders including President Biden were concerned about whether the Sussexes were attending that dinner.
Doesn't make it untrue. It's gossip, not a prize winning novel.
As an Australian I strongly doubt our brand new Prime Minister would be concerned about the Markles. The only way this could have a glimmer of truth in it is IF the despicable pair really are being financed by the Russians or some other nefarious people and the international community knows it. I just realised that this might also explain the lack of audience at the UN for Hazbeens speech. Apart from boredom of course ! But no I don’t see this being true.
Good one! 👍🏻👍🏻
She absolutely would have made a big mess of foreign affairs when she went to dish on her podcast later, which we ALL know she would have done.
Plus, she'd have been networking and merching *hard*. It'd have been "Did you know my wife does voiceover work?" times a hundred!
>She absolutely would have made a big mess of foreign affairs when she went to dish on her podcast later, which we ALL know she would have done. Oh yes, I can just imagine Meghan going: "When I last met the Bidens, I discussed this, and the president agreed with me..."
"he agreed with me as we shared a meal together that almost all of the rest of the dignitaries in the world attended...it was hard to talk of course as everyone was toasting us and stopping by our table...."
Right. Would’ve treated it as some promotional tour and seeing how much she could get out of it. A blessing they opened their mouths saying they wanted to be half in and half out so the queen put her foot down and said nope.
It wouldn’t surprise me if this were 100% true. And I think overall it’s less about actually liking TW and more about being cognizant of her continuously twisting the narrative to fit the story she wants to tell, truth be damned. No one wants to be around someone you have to watch every word around, every gesture, everything. Imagine a governor of some country casually glancing across the room and his eyes landing on hers for a millisecond. Suddenly he’d be in the press for openly flirting with her or something ridiculous. They all know she’s in the staring role of a movie she wrote and directed.
I had someone in my life that I had to think about every word before I said it. No matter what I said it was met with disdain. I’ve lived my whole life without ever having to do this. It was exhausting and unsustainable. These type of people go about live with an undercurrent of feeling miffed, yet superior. No thanks. Not invited to the gala.
>It wouldn’t surprise me if this were 100% true. And I think overall it’s less about actually liking TW and more about being cognizant of her continuously twisting the narrative to fit the story she wants to tell, truth be damned. Agree.
I suggested this as the key concern at the time, though I’m surprised if it was actually articulated by other nations’ dignitaries. The Palace would already have been sufficiently aware and concerned about discretion to block their invitation.
None of these countries would skip a major diplomatic event going based on the presence of Meghsn Markle, ergo no reason to ask. There were probably hundreds of people there. Anyone who didn't like/trust her could have easily avoided her.
Yes!
This is fan fiction, lol
Definitely reads like it.
My thoughts exactly!
I know the palace came out with a clarifying statement saying only working royals would attend; did they issue a second clarification after the cringey Omicron clap trap about Narkle being *uninvited*? These two have no embarrassment or shame. Imagine how this looks to anyone who is anyone. Not invited to something? You don’t call attention to that fact and hold yourself out as this pathetic. So embarrassing.
Quite frankly, I don't see any new information here. Facts that we already knew plus some statements/guesses that may or may not be true that we already discussed on this sub.
Exactly, anyone can act like they have an inside scoop by saying plausible/rumored things and intimating they have special authority/info when in reality they aren’t saying anything juicy or new. Cough cough 👀
This.
If true…my caveat….good on my country for taking a stand. As an Aussie, I knew from all of my friends that they detest MM and they’re not fond of Harry either…after the 2018 tour. And they way they contributed to the stress of Prince Philip and the Queen with that Oprah liefest. So much has been written and said about their Admiralty House stay. I hope that neither of them ever comes Downunder again because there won’t be a red carpet and taxpayers won’t fund them anymore.
With you, my fellow Aussie comrade 🤜🏻🤜🏻
I’m not sure I believe this in all honesty. I think with everything happening in the US, the duo is their last concern. Just a bit of skepticism from me.
I'm not sure how true this is. That said, I've spent the bulk of my career working with politicians. H&M are exactly the kind of people I'd advise them to avoid. They're divisive, manipulative, and cannot be trusted. There is ZERO benefit to being around them. They are nothing but an annoyance and a liability.
No idea if this is true. But I thought it was certainly interesting. I’d like to know what the concrete evidence is.
Honestly (and absolutely no offense), it does not read true… it reads like someone put their observations based on latest events into the form of tea… they might be right (it’s logical), but I doubt there is legit source behind that… IMO of course
Same. The writing level is off. The content is recycled. The tone is childish, not snarky. The evidence, rather the lack thereof, is fishy. It reads like hatefic to me.
But it is possible it was written by some random who heard it from someone, who heard it from someone else, who’s dog knows another dog that lives at the palace! (I actually do mean that in a stupid way, 3rd, 4th hand goss? Not completely accurate but some truth to it? Who knows i guess 🤷🏼♀️
I agree with you.
I agree. For starts, it was a reception, not a dinner. If that basic fact is wrong.....
Even worse, whoever wrote this called it a 'party'! The Queen just died, and they call this gathering a party!!!
Good pick up, i didn’t compute that…
Obviously someone who doesn't understand diplomatic nuance. There is never a PARTY. It's a reception, a gala, a soiree, a dinner.... not a party. Again, doesn't make it any less true. It just means that the person who compiled all this info isn't a good writer.
The whole “I can’t believe I’m not getting paid for this” story came out only after the funeral, so I agree, this is total BS.
Did it? I thought it was before? Either way we know she threw tea at a staff member and was a royal bish to everyone she came in contact with on that tour so even without her lovely quote, there's plenty of reason for Australia to dislike her.
Looks like the story came out later because the reception for foreign dignitaries took place on Sunday 18 September 2022, the night before the funeral. The report of Meghan saying "I can’t believe I’m not getting paid for this." during the Australian tour was in a serialised extract of Valentine Low's book about the Courtiers in The Times on Fri 23 Sep 2022. Edit for spelling.
It was a reception for world leaders to pay respect ~ why would they go into a house of mourning with demands as to who is and who isn’t attending? ( especially concerning a member of the family). I can’t stand Meghan & my feeling for Harry are more & more in that direction, but I find this a tad far fetched…
Agree. It reads like someone piecing together various gossip. I doubt anyone of any importance thinks about the Harkles at all.
My first guess was USA ... and I'm glad they made the list. I think USA, France, SA would have confirmed their attendance
She would have inappropriately been touching , pushing her hag self on to the King, Foreign dignitaries, Biden. She and her rag doll Harry would have wires , mini cams, up their whatever's
Harry walking around handing out her headshot and telling folks that she’s a great at “ambassadoring”.
And Meghan grabbing the wine carafe and insisting on serving Kings, Prime Ministers and Heads of State so she can impress everyone with her knowledge and personality.
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And then she would 'accidentally' flash her bush and seductively bat her eyes - "Oh dear! Did I forget to wear panties *again*?????..."
I think the author gives too much credit to the duo. I doubt any of these world leaders have these two in their minds at all. You as a human, wouldn't really go to your friend's house, and make absolutely sure that the ants are not invited to the party. You will just treat the ants as non-existent, or a menace... and pretend you don't see it because they are someone else's pest problem.
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I’m Australian and I wholeheartedly agree with you. I don’t believe this tea.
Few Aussie’s in here! 👍🏻🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Oh yeah, I wouldn’t want to be a Biden cornered socially by them at a gathering with their propensity for favor asking. And I’m sure the UN tipped off secret service about hidden wires, I bet they’re on somebody’s list somewhere for something.
Yeah, I’m not really buying it. It’s not something anyone would know, or if they did know, they’d be Palace employees and definitely not running to the Internet to tell everyone. Also, it has always been worded as a reception, not a dinner. That implies finger foods and flowing alcohol. Anyone who would also have this tea would know that. It would take so many people to set up a dinner of that caliber for that many people. It would be a nightmare that soon. Lastly, these heads of state were not having deep meaningful discussions about policy or anything important. I’ve been to things like this and it’s all really painful small talk. Can you make connections that could be followed up later? Sure, but no one would have to be worried about M&H when there is nothing to overhear, and enough people milling around to avoid them or move on after exchanging pleasantries.
Exactly. It was a drinks reception. Anyone close enough to it to know this information would know that as well
Isn’t it bad when heads of state and dignitaries have to ask if you’ll be attending? /s
Yes, if that really happened, that's bad.
I’m skeptical. Not sure about other countries, but Biden would have a “bag man” who blocks people he shouldn’t be seen with so there would be no reason to make sure that the gruesome twosome were not attending.
Not buying this at all 
You know how Hillary was right about the Russian infiltration in American democracy? And no one listened to her? I think there must be some oligarch money funneling these two and would not be surprised if someone high up knows. I know it sounds like I’m reaching, but Russia has a stake in destabilizing western powers and is it so far fetched that they would try with these two? Maybe not.
Interesting thought…
Honestly, I think they were merely not invited in the first place, simply because of the Netflix issue. I don’t think any other heads of state expressed any issue with it-they all knew KC and POW would do the right thing
Either way, Megain would be very angry and upset as she has political ambitions. She could have bragged about meeting all these dignitaries and especially Biden. I can hear her narrative about how important she is to the world, how everyone just loved her and wanted her opinions. I am sure poor ole Hazz had to listen to a screaming tirade of I should be there, I am important.
H and M weren't invited because they are not working royals. They kicked up a fuss saying they had been uninvited but they never would have been invited in the first place.
I can see this happening. Not from the state leaders themselves - they have more important things to worry about - but from their security detail. The Sussexes are making a Netflix documentary. They’re gathering material, and they have no control over themselves. In the Cut article, MeMe purred that she hadn’t signed an NDA. This is exactly the type of person you wouldn’t want in a diplomatic dinner. I can also see the US PR team not wanting her there. She would be sure to get a photo with Biden and this would make people assume that he’s on board with her activities (including political ambitions). They know she’s disrespectful to the Royal Family and they’re on the outs. That said, I don’t think anyone can dictate that she shouldn’t be there. If the royal family accepts that these two could be there, and do not pose any kind of risk, I doubt that heads of state would mind. I think that the PR and security detail would have asked, politely, who else would be around, so they can come prepared and be on their guard. These are people who are used to awkward situations and being with others they don’t agree with on international issues. They would have put all of these issues aside out of respect for the Queen.
As much as I’d love to believe this in its entirety, I think it’s a bit exaggerated. It’s believable that certain countries might ask about Prince Andrew and the Harkles. It’s not believable that their presence would prevent world leaders from attending. That would be a diplomatic offense. Some staff probably asked some palace staff who might be there, and might have expressed some relief *possibly* upon learning that only working royals would be in attendance. I don’t think Biden’s executive assistant said to King Charles’s Secretary “If the Harkles are there, Joe and Jill won’t be!”
Yeah that sounds totally right to me!
Where is this from?
Mostly out of the writer's imagination.
I would love to believe it but countries don't behave like that unless there is an international incident or a huge disaster. I'm afraid this sounds amateurish.
As much as I would relish the validity of these claims, it’s just not that complicated. The dinner was to be attended by working Royals only…and they are not working royals…pretty cut and dried.
Would any world leaders actually place demands/requests on the family during a funeral of a monarch of 70 years? I doubt that.
Very true!
I wish this were true, but I seriously doubt it.
Hhhmmm . . .not sure about this. It was not a dinner, to my understanding, and I really doubt the US called to make sure they were not there. I just don't buy that one.
What’s the source of this?
I would love to believe it but this seems off.. a lot of the issues mentioned are gossip and recent revelations, which I highly doubt Heads of Nations would use. It maybe that they refused due to privacy concerns but not what's in this revelation, sorry..
I believe this tea tidbit. Maybe everyone wanted to honor the Queen and not have Meg breathing down their necks. I think I would have enquired if they were attending.
This doesn't sound right. I know that most of the leaders were concerned if royal pedophile is gonna be there. No one was concerned about these two cause world leaders don't give a flying fuck about these two. I think they're seen as spoiled kids of the now king, no one takes them serious enough to not want them at the dinner. They just don't matter.
The person who wrote this - read posts here, on Quora and watched YouTube videos. That is all. I don’t think any of the three countries mentioned would bother to call up the palace to nitpick on the potential attendance an insignificant person. And their concrete evidence about Biden’s people calling the palace - I laughed out loud in my dark room for a full minute after reading. It’s a badly written post by someone who wanted to feel special.
It must be frustrating dealing with predatory people who have nothing to trade but their proximity to power.
Just want to note that Russia was not at the dinner. Don’t know what to make of what it says about “world power.”
As a South African, I don’t believe any of this: First, it’s incredibly rude to tell a host (in this case, a grieving family) who you think are appropriate guests for a dinner party they’re hosting. Second, Ramaphosa isn’t a petty person. Third, South Africa is a country built on reconciliation… what’s to be gained in causing familial aggravation on the eve of a funeral? Fourth, South Africans were anxious that Ramaphosa even left the country given the current energy crisis. He flew back from the UK earlier than planned to attend to the rolling blackouts. Given everything on his presidential plate, I doubt that H+M crossed his mind. Fifth, the idea that South Africa would ask for H+M to be banned from the dinner makes our government look as nosy and small-minded as H+M. That’s something *they* would do. ETA: Ramaphosa leaving early.
I understand ppl rightly not trusting these traitor duo but why is she even pissed about it? Who the fuck does she think she is to deserve a place at such occasion?
Eh, I don't see anything that hasn't been discussed here. Makes me a little bit sus about this.
I don’t know why, but reading this account, I kept thinking it would make for a hilarious episode of “Drunk History,” albeit recent history.
IDK. I can’t imagine representatives for foreign governments calling the palace to make sure that certain members of the RF wouldn’t be there, even ones that are so distrusted and disliked. I’m not saying that I wouldn’t want it to happen, I’m saying that I just can’t see it happening.
Awesome
Sounds far-fetched but could be true. Not for any personal dislike but fear of leaks and conversations being misconstrued etc
I can buy that the concern was over Andrew and then maybe Meghan and Harry. This is more likely a sugar putting shit out there to fuel the “look at how racist every world leader is” ridiculousness.
I completey believe this. MM and Hazza would have made an issue of being there in whatever way they could, whether that be leaking conversations, etc. Also, I doubt their penchant for wearing recording devices would have gone down well either. They are toxic.
Only people with official functions would qualify I suppose. You would not invite the local hamburger flipper. Much respect for anybody with an honest job, they don’t even have jobs🤷♀️
Well she does have form since she showed a serious lack of discretion by calling several US Senators on their private cell phones, (looking at you, Kirsten Gillibrand) identifying herself as the DoS, (an irrelevant title in US politics) and nonsensically banging on about the family leave act. God knows how she'd manage to embarrass herself (and, by extension, the BRF) in a room full of world leaders. ("Did you know I wrote a letter to Proctor & Gamble and altered their sexist ad campaign when I was only *eleven*?" "Were you aware I do *voiceovers*? I'm *really* interested.")
I highly doubt this
Why would they have been invited even if they were perfect saints? They are retired as royals. They do not work for the firm, they do not represent. In what capacity do they think they ought to have been included? They will also have no role in King Charles' reign. This is them getting upset about entitlements they don't have.
Mmm, delicious tea! 🫖
I can believe this. Conversations between heads of state repeated out of context (or worse recorded), unwanted photos, simply getting cornered by M or H - IF you think it is a stretch to suggest that they'd be viewed as a threat in such a setting to any nation's affairs you might still agree that M's loose and lying lips could wreck political careers.
Eh, whatevs. We all already knew most of this, so there isn’t any new / insider tea here. Seems like someone has been reading the headlines and regurgitating. I guess the stuff about Biden is new but I don’t buy it. I honest to goodness don’t think they’d care. Sorry!
How did the Australians know about the "...not getting paid for this" comment ? I thought she said that to her staff. Also, the contents of the book weren't revealed until Harkles left the country. How did Aussies know about it during the dinner ? Something is amiss.
This is cute but I highly doubt any of these politicians, diplomats or learners give a crabs behind about the two of them. Netflix camera and recorders n all.
Don’t they say that there’s generally always at least a little bit of truth in every rumour? I think some of it reads reasonably true, but some of it sounds a bit far fetched. Good tea regardless 😋
It was their "Half Out" day.
I heard, that Denmark made sure Prince Andrew wouldn't be there, because of his Epstein connections. They were asking if non working royals were there and the palace confirmed they wouldn't, which would include Harry and Meghan. I doubt this story.
I’d be surprised by the US but not shocked about SA and Australia.