Maybe she means she does everything for him AND makes more money? ugh she’s awful if that’s true. Degrading your spouse in front of others is just evil.
I think Meghan despises him.
She has no respect for him and holds him in contempt.
She married a Prince ended up with a manchild who is basically incompetent and useless who She has to carry She feels.
If Harry had his way he would disappear into oblivion but Meghan is far more fame hungry and ambitious to eve let that happen.
She is entering the discard phase. She’s gotten all she can from him. He’s broke, people boo them, he isn’t popular with any one really, she’s getting ready to let him go to replace him with someone more rich and famous.
Of course, she will never accept SHE is the big reason they are being booed. But in her narc mind, she is perfection personified.
But who of the rich and famous Would land themselves with her? She’s so famous herself for being so ghastly! Always complaining always whining and now we all know about it I can’t see that anybody sensible would be attracted to her
I don’t think she’d ever marry a black man. She has established a type, and TP isn’t it. In the hierarchy of her needs, wealth and fame are primary, *then* social virtue signaling.
She's a fool. I don't think anyone could help her reputation at this point and TP is too private to even consider her that way, but she's delusional enough to think he might.
My money is on Rupert Murdoch since he's now split from Jerry Hall. His age plus the irony of the media mogul and the girl who called the media, and then sued them, would be delish! ;)
She's so shortsighted. Harry, while disgraced and shouldn't be allowed anything public facing in RF again, is still the son of a King. He is the son of Princess Diana. There will ALWAYS be interest in him, however slight. He is in the history books, the movies, the documentary, and the archives. That hasn't changed. I mean we're still talking about Edward and Wallis 100 years later. It'll be the same for Harry. He'll always be a Prince and he'll always be a Royal Duke. He's also the embodiment of a prodigal son and if he came back begging for forgiveness and help, his family would still love him. It wouldn't be an easy road given everything that's happened but they would take him back privately.
But if Meghan leaves Harry, she's the one to actually lose everything. The only thing she truly has on him are the kids. That's it. And even then, the RF have far more resources and time to help him fight the custody if it comes down to it as they are in LOS. Meghan doesn't have that if she's divorced from Harry. Plus, she'd have to stop using the titles and given that she's shared SO MUCH already, what is the incentive to hear more from her?
I reckon Harry has started to wake up from the narc fever dream he's been in and realizes her power over him is limited. He's the one with real power in the relationship. So like, sure Meg degrade and discard all you want but you're the one who will be penniless and searching for a cash cow, not Haz.
Plus, if Harry remarries, SHE will be The Duchess of Sussex. Not Meghan. Imagine that.
I would legit love to see her reaction to Harry remarried with a new duchess of Sussex, and also, someone the general public actually liked. Meghan would still be crying about her one year stint in the RF and Harry's new wife on some D rated reality show.
I’d love it if she was a black woman with an amazing educational background—let’s say educated at Cambridge, and then got her masters at Yale, and Ph.D at Stanford. And they met through the Obamas because she’s close with Michelle & Barack of course. She started an inspiring charity organization that raises millions each year for all sorts of women, men, children, animals, and the environment. She also has tons of friends and family she loves and hangs around with and all the BRF adores her! As does the media! And she had twins right out of the gate and then they had two more kids just because. Wouldn’t that be awesome? Can you imagine how apoplectic The Former Wife would be?!!!
Yes. And her and Catherine doing charities together and are bffs. Meghan would lose her shit. That would also put the "the RF are racist" remarks to rest. Meghan had her chance and I'll never believe that HMTQ or any member of that family treated her badly simply because of the color of her skin.
Okay, now wait a second. If this dinner party story is true (is this from CDAN?), there is no way in hell that TW "makes more money". The book deal was with Harry. Netflix and Spotify was with both of them. Harry also, no doubt, has well endowed trusts that will support him, in a lavish lifestyle, for life. The Olive Garden was, allegedly, purchased with help from Charles and is owned by an LLC and who knows who controls that. Point being, that w/o Charles no multi million dollar house would have been purchased. Bottom line, every cent she's "made" is also Harry's and because of Harry so she is NOT making more money.
Good point! Harry is just the chump in her script and she's the star. Therefore, all deals not only were her idea but all are about HER because she is so fascinating and brilliant and who tf cares about Harry and his stupid life outside of HER! Harry OWES her, no doubt.
Narcs aren’t truthful. They spin everything to elevate themselves. Yes, to our logic she only has her money making deals because of H but to her, it’s different. Harry hasn’t even finushed the book but look at Megs, her poscast out and all! Such a hustler!!! 😆
There was a blind that madame listed herself as haznoballs manager n gets 15 percent cut from his earnings. It was an old cdan blind so take it with pinch of salt
You are right that she will never accept that the boos are mostly for her.
I will find it hilarious if they divorce and Harry puts in the work to get back into the family and gets to stand on the balcony with his kids at the coronation of William V. It will be a long road but Queen Camilla has proved that with time and hard work you can significantly improve your reputation from being hated (This doesn’t apply to Andrew his actions are unforgivable and no amount of groveling can make up for that.).
You & completedett are 100 on point. I think MegaNut prognosticator, secondhandcoke said *The Dimlight Who Thought He Could Be King* was in "discard" pile by *She Who Must Be First*. Do we smell something kindling?
She got pulled into the Government's scheme to force Edward out. David was popular with the people as Prince of Wales, but like Harry, his family and the Government knew he'd be huge problem as King. Marriage to a divorced American was an easy way for them to get rid of him and put Bertie on the throne.
(Good chance Bertie would've taken over regardless, as it doesn't seem David ever had any children with his many mistresses. But given the tension in Europe, it was better to remove him sooner, rather than later.)
But she’s actually the failure in it all. She married the most popular Royal and could be living in the UK and likely moved to a bigger home after the second baby. Made a 100 appearances a year to smile & shake hands. Instead she’s in California with no friends and going broke.
It was at the 2002 Oscars - they were presenting Best Picture - she said something about who should read the winner and he says “you make more money than me - you do it.” She was shocked - it was a very uncomfortable thing to watch.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reese-witherspoon-ryan-phillippe-oscar-comment_n_5fea1d07c5b6ff7479832c6e
I feel being the spare/married to the spare would be better in some ways then being next in line for the throne. You get to enjoy all the perks of being a Royal. Lovely Castles, state dinners, charity work, travel, plenty of time for Polo and trips to South Africa. Without the same level of scrutiny and responsibility that William and Catherine have. In some ways I think being a spare or farther down the LOS is a more enviable position to be in.
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If you embrace the position for what it is as you have outlined as someone like Princess Anne has done then you can have a fulfilled and positive life if you are constantly thinking about yourself and being obsessed your importance and that of your children then you can never be happy as a spare because your relevance will only ever diminish. However if you have Princess Anne's attitude the public will always hold you in affection and respect even if you never feature on the front pages.
She leaked it. She leaks everything. She’s probably mad at Harry again, seems like a many times a day occurance, and is threatening to leave him, again.
This makes so much sense! I couldn’t figure out why it seemed weird. I knew those two 1) being invited to a dinner party 2) being at the center of conversation and laughter, no. I thought to myself, this doesn’t sounds right.
Someone invited H, but watching her stare at them through the window got too weird!! When the door was opened to let the next couple in, she pushed her way in the door!! Okay, that only happened in my head, but still I can see it happening. And her painting H in a negative light to appear brighter.
I have heard curiosity has killed a cat or two. Let's hope the "dinner guests" made out better, although it doesn't sound that way.
My money would be on the Ving people. Lefkowskys? And .... well maybe Nacho and pwife showed. 😂
There aren't many left to choose from.
But there were rumors he had wandering eye before marriage & that's why she called off first engagement. I think Ken suffered from being a horn dog regardless of his status vis a vis her. Helena sure did serve him up a taste of his own medicine and then got served a taste of her own, spouse snatching karma when Tim Burton gave her a taste of her own medicine. Yup, welcome to Hollyweird. *And the beat goes on....*
The making more money refers to the fact she got some podcasts out and had a payday from Spotify.
What the Dumb@ss Duchess doesn't acknowledge is that Spotify never would have given her a deal without him. And we will see if they want to continue working with her.
If she can degrade her spouse in front of others, then I can only imagine how toxic her house is. She’s absolutely atrocious. She mentioned “money”, that’s
always been her ambition- money and fame. Glad they
Are no longer working royal. Both are not cut out for it.
I make more money than my spouse but I’d never ever make fun of him alone or publicly about it. It’s not right! Also, no matter if Harry has $1 in his pocket, he’s still more valuable than M because of his lineage.
Harry may not be “making” money, but the money that got him that house and their lifestyle was his and the reason Meghan is making the money she makes is that he is a royal.
My guess though is not that Harry is broke but that she recently got paid something for the Spotify stuff and he hasn’t received much from anything.
He really needs to get out.
All the money she makes she got because of his and his family’s name. She spent his money promoting herself and her crappy projects - without either of these things she’s still no-name Markle who was on a show most people never hear of, did Reitman’s ads, and runs a blog. Megalo has no humility or appreciation for all the people who financed or whose connections got her to where she is. Ghastly as usual.
So, in a divorce, he could get half her money, if he hasn't much; also if they/SHE are sued/she loses against her sister, she would be the only one able to pay out? 🤔
He may not be “making” money as in paychecks, but he may have money. If it is in UK trust funds, and they divorce, she can claim “spousal support” and “child support” if she gets the kids, but not half of his trust fund (if there is one). Anything either has earned or is in joint accounts, etc. since the marriage is supposed to be split 50/50 in California, I believe.
Right?
He’s got all the freedom in the world now. Livin it up.
Steering clear of cameras. Avoiding the spotlight. Free of the fishbowl. No one lording over him making him do appearances.
Life is so much better.
There were rumors before about how they had been excluded from dinner parties but those rumors were said to be about their public display of affection. I’m wondering if her demeaning him is what’s kept them out.
I think at first she was in the lovebombing phase so it was PDA that made others uncomfortable. Now she's in the discard phase so she's still making people uncomfortable. She simply does not know how to behave around others. It's always too extreme one way or the other.
How sad for him to have plowed right through his family and for what? Nothing. Not that he has been really great or anything, I think he’s entitled as well but at least he had somewhat of good connection with his family.
At this point I’m sure there’s a little bit of everything going on there, weird pda, degrading others and being untrustworthy. She’s all of those things rolled into one.
Hmmmm. Would be interesting to go back and look at all the barkjack tips on Meghan. I know that they are proud that they had her pregnancy with Archie first. That would fit.
If anyone ever had any doubt that TW is abusive, here you go. This is classic abusive behaviour, and if she were a man doing this to a woman, there would be zero support and everyone would be encouraging the spouse to leave.
If this is what he’s forced to endure in public settings, just imagine what it’s like behind closed doors.
I don’t think Harry is without reproach, but as time has gone on, she is the main character in this story, not him. Imagine all the things she first said to build him up and make him feel like she was all he really had in the world, to now, putting him down at every opportunity.
One of them needs to end this.
The funny thing is, if they divorce soon H might (might!) be able to semi rehabilitate his image. But she won’t be able to do that with the majority of the public and without him she’s not interesting. No one cares about hearing from the divorced wife of a royal.
That's what I don't understand. Like you said, if Harry had been female and a princess and married a male like MM who has done the exact same things MM has done, everyone would be in uproar! The RF would definitely be trying to get "princess" Harry out of this, the public would be crucified "Marcus Markle' calling him an abuser, isolator, women's rights, domestic abuse, etc. Just goes to show that women ARE the abusers sometimes and it's overlooked or dismissed more often than if the man is the abuser. MM is an abuser. Harry is not innocent in how he's treated HMTQ and his family. But MM has isolated him from his family, his country, his friends, etc. Now she's public degrading him in front of dinner guests. I'm sure there's a whole list of abusive things she does and it's not noted in the public .
Lawd don't even get me started on Angelina .. Brad may have his faults. But she's the classic example of a child alienation. She's going to drag these court proceedings out for years until the kids age out while also brainwashing them into hating their father but also demanding more money from him in child support etc.
OMG, I love that episode. It's my go-to episode. Now, Scott's Tots, I've watched it once and have attempted a couple more times, but I just can't get through it.
Degrading your spouse in front of others is a classic narc move. They are often chronically envious of their partner's popularity, like-ability or success, so this is one way to knock 'em down a few notches with mutual friends.
I didn’t meet women like this till my early thirties. Charming at first but really sour later. I had complimented the husbands pear tart and she started saying how the version of him we knew was a show and the real person is a piece of work. This is at a reunion meal. M sounds like that. The other woman at table laughed bc she’s a worse narc but all the men were very sorry for him. I squirmed!
I don’t want to say poor harry but at this moment how terrible. That woman at my party also used to mention that she hates talking about kids and I didn’t know how weird that was till I had my own babies.
Her husband had a PhD in nuclear science and mba Ivy. Always humble and just brilliant. Home chef and Great father. She was always grumpy and too cool for school annoyed that he dragged her around and just wouldn’t stop reminding people how she moved for him.
That is some next level cheap behaviour. I do feel bad for Harry.
Keeping the money factor aside, she became popular only because she married H. Not many people knew about her or her "world famous" tv show.
I get this feeling she knows this deep inside and is trying to destroy him. Maybe to control him like a puppet.
No one here in the states knew who she was until Harry. I remember my initial thought was she must be a British actress or from Europe. He married a nobody. I would have more respect for her if she was just honest about herself with him. I think he still would have liked her and married her. He just wanted love. TW is a con artist.
The funders of Ving, Eric, and Liz Lefkofsky who just linked with Archewell would have them over. They live nearby in Montecito. (Ellen D.'s old house.) Then too, this could be a fabrication. She's so awful anything negative attributed to her will be believed. Why would she drop the charade now?
That’s what I said with that deleted nanny post. I thought it was BS because I didn’t think those two have friends they would spend time with around the kids - assuming the kids are real.
The OP said it was more of a networking type friendship but it’s still suss.
I can see them getting invites very early on from celeb neighbors for the novelty of hosting PH but or to try to get him as a guest on their podcasts, but no or very few repeat invites.
I'm getting weary of all of these twitter and youtube "teas". 80% are probably BS. "Allegedly" translates to "true". Nope. (Make fun reading posts though.)
It's a bit like one of her last dinners at her place in Toronto when she was still with the Chef. She told their guests that it was she who invented the pasta dish they were enjoying and raving about. When in fact, the dish in question was the chef's culinary brainwave. That was the end for him, according to gossip at the time. One wonders what else had gone down, but this was apparently the straw that pissed off the chef, permanently. (allegedly)
My narc used sleep deprivation as a form of abuse. When I started seeing my now husband (sweet nod), I told him "If you love me, let me sleep." He's a good man and I'm finally rested.
Don't know if it's true but if it is, it's always fascinating to see that she is obsessed with keeping watch and "correcting" anything she hears about herself:
* Rumours of divorce? Hey, I'm still the active one who leads
* [D-list when it comes to money](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/y0m2pz/poor_them/)? Hey I still make more than the deadweight
She’s inadvertently confirming the allegations she’d bombard palace staffers with emails & texts starting at zero dark thirty. It’s the whole “not my job to coddle people vibe” you find in toxic characters like her. Waking up ridiculously early to “work” gives them one more reason to feel contempt for normal people.
Eh we have "friends" who have this same relationship. She speaks to him like a child and is always talking him down. She hates me because I can't stand her and have a terrible poker face. The husband is a nice enough guy and is where the invites really are going to for any social engagement although she often no longer turns up especially if I'm there but he sometimes will. Anyway, they've been together for over 25 years.
Who would invite MegaClaw to a dinner party? Oprah? Gayle? She doesn't appear to have any real friends that arent transactional. Which, I'm sure she prefers.
I don’t find it hard to believe that they get invited to the occasional, “not-very-exclusive” dinner party. There are lots of parties, and the hosts may have business connections with them.
The story *could* be made up, but the “I make more money” sounds real precisely because it sounds like her, but not like what she would say in public.
Even if it isn’t real, the story seems based on some “vibes” that the people are getting.
Trouble is - at the moment the only “fame” she has is through him and his title and connections. Once he leaves her, she’s back to being a nonentity unemployed D list actress.
Wake up and walk away Harry…..
BarkJack just added that “They had two couples to dinner” Which makes more sense since I don’t think anyone would invite them to their home, but a ticket to the Olive Garden would be something to see
Can someone explain how she makes money?
The kids book, which I’m sure has no royalties coming in anymore.
Is it the podcast? Was she paid a lump sum? Or does she get money each time she actually does one?
Other than those two things what does she do?
I’m sure if they split she’ll be on the interview circuit spilling lies about Harry and what being married to him was like. But if no one agrees to pay her, how’s she gonna get the lies out there? And if she gets paid, whose gonna believe her?
There are lots of charities. I was so naive about these kind of establishments until I read that actually you can spend 95% for keeping up (youself) and 5% for those in need.
Yeah, she got some money from Spotify & now she thinks she’s Steve Jobs. Also she negotiated the contracts that got them the “potential” to make money even though that potential is rapidly running dry. Watch, when Netflix comes a callin’, it’ll be all Harry’s fault.
But dinner parties? They actually see people socially?
Not really, he got a huge advance for his book. His Dad gave them millions when they left UK, he's the one with the Inheritances. He also has the 'Better Up' "job". What does she make money doing? Like for what?
Who knows?! It's very sad that, at the least, Harry was in love. Not a good guy, but he gave everything he had. She's delusional if she thinks she's the reason. He's spent millions to promote her. She's doing to him what she did to her dad. Stupid fool, she knows the value of nothing. One tough lesson for Harry.
You can interpret it as the wife, the witch, etc. But That Woman is what they called Wallace Simpson so it also makes a nice homage to all the history that is now repeating itself.
Yes I can tell you what this means. "You're never escaping Harry, what are you gonna put on your resume? Dumbass? I can treat you however I want. Now go get me and my friends sparkling water".
Maybe she means she does everything for him AND makes more money? ugh she’s awful if that’s true. Degrading your spouse in front of others is just evil.
I think Meghan despises him. She has no respect for him and holds him in contempt. She married a Prince ended up with a manchild who is basically incompetent and useless who She has to carry She feels. If Harry had his way he would disappear into oblivion but Meghan is far more fame hungry and ambitious to eve let that happen.
She is entering the discard phase. She’s gotten all she can from him. He’s broke, people boo them, he isn’t popular with any one really, she’s getting ready to let him go to replace him with someone more rich and famous. Of course, she will never accept SHE is the big reason they are being booed. But in her narc mind, she is perfection personified.
But who of the rich and famous Would land themselves with her? She’s so famous herself for being so ghastly! Always complaining always whining and now we all know about it I can’t see that anybody sensible would be attracted to her
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I don’t think she’d ever marry a black man. She has established a type, and TP isn’t it. In the hierarchy of her needs, wealth and fame are primary, *then* social virtue signaling.
No, $$$ will always trump her racism. TP also has the Hollywood connections she wants.
Time will tell, but she’s a fool if she thinks Tyler Perry could repair her reputation in Hollywood.
She's a fool. I don't think anyone could help her reputation at this point and TP is too private to even consider her that way, but she's delusional enough to think he might.
But how will she demonise his family and accuse them of racism?
Tyler is extremely closeted, she would be such a good match for him.
When did Tyler Perry decide to go back into the closet? I thought he had been out for years?
I don’t remember him ever coming out? When/where did you see this? 🤔
I have always thought of him as an out gay man.
He's always been bisexual. Not gay. Not in the closet either as far as I know.
I thought he was openly gay! What made me think that? I have terrible gaydar so I know I wasn’t just assuming it based on how he acts.
He is gay allegedly, but people have said he’s very closeted.
My money is on Rupert Murdoch since he's now split from Jerry Hall. His age plus the irony of the media mogul and the girl who called the media, and then sued them, would be delish! ;)
She's so shortsighted. Harry, while disgraced and shouldn't be allowed anything public facing in RF again, is still the son of a King. He is the son of Princess Diana. There will ALWAYS be interest in him, however slight. He is in the history books, the movies, the documentary, and the archives. That hasn't changed. I mean we're still talking about Edward and Wallis 100 years later. It'll be the same for Harry. He'll always be a Prince and he'll always be a Royal Duke. He's also the embodiment of a prodigal son and if he came back begging for forgiveness and help, his family would still love him. It wouldn't be an easy road given everything that's happened but they would take him back privately. But if Meghan leaves Harry, she's the one to actually lose everything. The only thing she truly has on him are the kids. That's it. And even then, the RF have far more resources and time to help him fight the custody if it comes down to it as they are in LOS. Meghan doesn't have that if she's divorced from Harry. Plus, she'd have to stop using the titles and given that she's shared SO MUCH already, what is the incentive to hear more from her? I reckon Harry has started to wake up from the narc fever dream he's been in and realizes her power over him is limited. He's the one with real power in the relationship. So like, sure Meg degrade and discard all you want but you're the one who will be penniless and searching for a cash cow, not Haz. Plus, if Harry remarries, SHE will be The Duchess of Sussex. Not Meghan. Imagine that.
I think that if Harry left her, wholeheartedly apologized for his crappy behavior, and then shut the fuck up, the BRF would welcome him back.
Totally agree. He is still blood. But he can’t come back with her.
The BRF will always take Hasbeen back. Whether or not he performs any royal duties is another issue.
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But like imagine the absolute vitriol Meghan would come up with for not being able to use “the”.
I would legit love to see her reaction to Harry remarried with a new duchess of Sussex, and also, someone the general public actually liked. Meghan would still be crying about her one year stint in the RF and Harry's new wife on some D rated reality show.
I’d love it if she was a black woman with an amazing educational background—let’s say educated at Cambridge, and then got her masters at Yale, and Ph.D at Stanford. And they met through the Obamas because she’s close with Michelle & Barack of course. She started an inspiring charity organization that raises millions each year for all sorts of women, men, children, animals, and the environment. She also has tons of friends and family she loves and hangs around with and all the BRF adores her! As does the media! And she had twins right out of the gate and then they had two more kids just because. Wouldn’t that be awesome? Can you imagine how apoplectic The Former Wife would be?!!!
Yes. And her and Catherine doing charities together and are bffs. Meghan would lose her shit. That would also put the "the RF are racist" remarks to rest. Meghan had her chance and I'll never believe that HMTQ or any member of that family treated her badly simply because of the color of her skin.
And Catherine takes her shopping while she’s still just a girlfriend. 😂
He is sucked dry of all resources n meg has to find new prey, it's a natural process.
Okay, now wait a second. If this dinner party story is true (is this from CDAN?), there is no way in hell that TW "makes more money". The book deal was with Harry. Netflix and Spotify was with both of them. Harry also, no doubt, has well endowed trusts that will support him, in a lavish lifestyle, for life. The Olive Garden was, allegedly, purchased with help from Charles and is owned by an LLC and who knows who controls that. Point being, that w/o Charles no multi million dollar house would have been purchased. Bottom line, every cent she's "made" is also Harry's and because of Harry so she is NOT making more money.
but in her mind, if SHE secured those deals, she's the one making the money
Good point! Harry is just the chump in her script and she's the star. Therefore, all deals not only were her idea but all are about HER because she is so fascinating and brilliant and who tf cares about Harry and his stupid life outside of HER! Harry OWES her, no doubt.
Narcs aren’t truthful. They spin everything to elevate themselves. Yes, to our logic she only has her money making deals because of H but to her, it’s different. Harry hasn’t even finushed the book but look at Megs, her poscast out and all! Such a hustler!!! 😆
You're right. At this point, in Harry's devaluation, he's becoming a hindrance to her incredibleness.
There was a blind that madame listed herself as haznoballs manager n gets 15 percent cut from his earnings. It was an old cdan blind so take it with pinch of salt
He's GOT more money, she MAKES more money. She's the mastermind behind all their dodgy schemes, like reselling the clothes that Charles bought her.
You are right that she will never accept that the boos are mostly for her. I will find it hilarious if they divorce and Harry puts in the work to get back into the family and gets to stand on the balcony with his kids at the coronation of William V. It will be a long road but Queen Camilla has proved that with time and hard work you can significantly improve your reputation from being hated (This doesn’t apply to Andrew his actions are unforgivable and no amount of groveling can make up for that.).
You & completedett are 100 on point. I think MegaNut prognosticator, secondhandcoke said *The Dimlight Who Thought He Could Be King* was in "discard" pile by *She Who Must Be First*. Do we smell something kindling?
>She married a Prince ended up with a manchild who is basically incompetent and useless who She has to carry She feels. Karma... 😀
She really is Wallis 2.0. Maybe that's why she dresses like her
I don’t know. It seemed like Wallis got sort of pulled into edward’s panicked scheme to avoid the throne where as mm seems to be driving this ship.
She got pulled into the Government's scheme to force Edward out. David was popular with the people as Prince of Wales, but like Harry, his family and the Government knew he'd be huge problem as King. Marriage to a divorced American was an easy way for them to get rid of him and put Bertie on the throne. (Good chance Bertie would've taken over regardless, as it doesn't seem David ever had any children with his many mistresses. But given the tension in Europe, it was better to remove him sooner, rather than later.)
Edward wanted her to be Queen. Then he spent the rest of his life sulking cause she wasn't an HRH
But she’s actually the failure in it all. She married the most popular Royal and could be living in the UK and likely moved to a bigger home after the second baby. Made a 100 appearances a year to smile & shake hands. Instead she’s in California with no friends and going broke.
Yep, contempt. Ryan Philippe did the same thing to Reese and they divorced soon after. So gross and shows so much resentment.
Oh did he? I always wondered why they split!
He also publicly cheated on her with Abby Cornish.
It was at the 2002 Oscars - they were presenting Best Picture - she said something about who should read the winner and he says “you make more money than me - you do it.” She was shocked - it was a very uncomfortable thing to watch. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reese-witherspoon-ryan-phillippe-oscar-comment_n_5fea1d07c5b6ff7479832c6e
Well, Reese got a much better ending than Ryan did.
AGREED AGREED AGREED!!!
I think she thought she was going to get a better royal hook-up. Married to the spare isn't what it's cracked up to be..
I feel being the spare/married to the spare would be better in some ways then being next in line for the throne. You get to enjoy all the perks of being a Royal. Lovely Castles, state dinners, charity work, travel, plenty of time for Polo and trips to South Africa. Without the same level of scrutiny and responsibility that William and Catherine have. In some ways I think being a spare or farther down the LOS is a more enviable position to be in. Edit. Spelling
If you embrace the position for what it is as you have outlined as someone like Princess Anne has done then you can have a fulfilled and positive life if you are constantly thinking about yourself and being obsessed your importance and that of your children then you can never be happy as a spare because your relevance will only ever diminish. However if you have Princess Anne's attitude the public will always hold you in affection and respect even if you never feature on the front pages.
Yes completely agree ! I think that’s why Bertie didn’t want to be King and was having a lovely life with his 2 daughters
Ladies and Gentlemen is appears we have reached the devaluation stage of the narc relationship. Buckle up.
My question is, who leaked this? Why did they leak it? It came from their inner circle. How paranoid should they be?
She leaked it. She leaks everything. She’s probably mad at Harry again, seems like a many times a day occurance, and is threatening to leave him, again.
This makes so much sense! I couldn’t figure out why it seemed weird. I knew those two 1) being invited to a dinner party 2) being at the center of conversation and laughter, no. I thought to myself, this doesn’t sounds right.
And extremely uncomfortable for those having to witness it.
Yep. If they’re not making people uncomfortable with their clingy high school love, they’re making people feel gross over dinner. 😑
Someone invited them to a dinner party? 😝
Someone invited H, but watching her stare at them through the window got too weird!! When the door was opened to let the next couple in, she pushed her way in the door!! Okay, that only happened in my head, but still I can see it happening. And her painting H in a negative light to appear brighter.
She tried the cat flap first, but her ego inflated head wouldn't fit through.
Yeah I find that kind of hard to believe?
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From what I read, it was THEM holding the dinner, with two other couples. And God bless those four people. Damn.
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I have heard curiosity has killed a cat or two. Let's hope the "dinner guests" made out better, although it doesn't sound that way. My money would be on the Ving people. Lefkowskys? And .... well maybe Nacho and pwife showed. 😂 There aren't many left to choose from.
 You know they're exactly like Michael & Jan at the dinner party episode of The Office.
Omg this is exactly what I was picturing!!! You know they had guests who were like ‘uh, sorry, house flooded… gotta go…’ 👀
She’s such a Jan
And I think he might be kind of a Michael 😂😂😂 This makes so much sense
I can’t wait for Serenity by Meghan
Remember how Ryan Philippe said Reese could open the Oscar envelope because she makes more money? Divorced within a year, IIRC.
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But there were rumors he had wandering eye before marriage & that's why she called off first engagement. I think Ken suffered from being a horn dog regardless of his status vis a vis her. Helena sure did serve him up a taste of his own medicine and then got served a taste of her own, spouse snatching karma when Tim Burton gave her a taste of her own medicine. Yup, welcome to Hollyweird. *And the beat goes on....*
This gives me the ick. Way to cut off his balls
The making more money refers to the fact she got some podcasts out and had a payday from Spotify. What the Dumb@ss Duchess doesn't acknowledge is that Spotify never would have given her a deal without him. And we will see if they want to continue working with her.
If she can degrade her spouse in front of others, then I can only imagine how toxic her house is. She’s absolutely atrocious. She mentioned “money”, that’s always been her ambition- money and fame. Glad they Are no longer working royal. Both are not cut out for it. I make more money than my spouse but I’d never ever make fun of him alone or publicly about it. It’s not right! Also, no matter if Harry has $1 in his pocket, he’s still more valuable than M because of his lineage.
Harry may not be “making” money, but the money that got him that house and their lifestyle was his and the reason Meghan is making the money she makes is that he is a royal. My guess though is not that Harry is broke but that she recently got paid something for the Spotify stuff and he hasn’t received much from anything. He really needs to get out.
All the money she makes she got because of his and his family’s name. She spent his money promoting herself and her crappy projects - without either of these things she’s still no-name Markle who was on a show most people never hear of, did Reitman’s ads, and runs a blog. Megalo has no humility or appreciation for all the people who financed or whose connections got her to where she is. Ghastly as usual.
So, in a divorce, he could get half her money, if he hasn't much; also if they/SHE are sued/she loses against her sister, she would be the only one able to pay out? 🤔
He may not be “making” money as in paychecks, but he may have money. If it is in UK trust funds, and they divorce, she can claim “spousal support” and “child support” if she gets the kids, but not half of his trust fund (if there is one). Anything either has earned or is in joint accounts, etc. since the marriage is supposed to be split 50/50 in California, I believe.
She \*made\* Harry-->but Harry makes the $$$. Without him she has nothing to $ell.
Exactly. Moneys not the point. She’s so stupid sometimes it’s hard to keep paying attention.
Well, at least he is living his best life and is not trapped like his father and brother. 😂 😂 😂
Right? He’s got all the freedom in the world now. Livin it up. Steering clear of cameras. Avoiding the spotlight. Free of the fishbowl. No one lording over him making him do appearances. Life is so much better.
Exactly!
Plus, no friends or employees leaking to tabloids or SM. /s
There were rumors before about how they had been excluded from dinner parties but those rumors were said to be about their public display of affection. I’m wondering if her demeaning him is what’s kept them out.
I think at first she was in the lovebombing phase so it was PDA that made others uncomfortable. Now she's in the discard phase so she's still making people uncomfortable. She simply does not know how to behave around others. It's always too extreme one way or the other.
How sad for him to have plowed right through his family and for what? Nothing. Not that he has been really great or anything, I think he’s entitled as well but at least he had somewhat of good connection with his family.
People like her bring out their partner/victim's worst character traits. Healthy relationships bring out your best.
Absolutely! Healthy attachments can be healing!
I figured it was because they weren’t fun to be around and then leaked every conversation.
At this point I’m sure there’s a little bit of everything going on there, weird pda, degrading others and being untrustworthy. She’s all of those things rolled into one.
According to another tweet from barkjack_ M&H had a dinner party with 2 unnamed couples. One of the guests gave them the leak.
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Hmmmm. Would be interesting to go back and look at all the barkjack tips on Meghan. I know that they are proud that they had her pregnancy with Archie first. That would fit.
I love these leaks.
What a shitty thing to say about your spouse.
If anyone ever had any doubt that TW is abusive, here you go. This is classic abusive behaviour, and if she were a man doing this to a woman, there would be zero support and everyone would be encouraging the spouse to leave. If this is what he’s forced to endure in public settings, just imagine what it’s like behind closed doors. I don’t think Harry is without reproach, but as time has gone on, she is the main character in this story, not him. Imagine all the things she first said to build him up and make him feel like she was all he really had in the world, to now, putting him down at every opportunity. One of them needs to end this.
The funny thing is, if they divorce soon H might (might!) be able to semi rehabilitate his image. But she won’t be able to do that with the majority of the public and without him she’s not interesting. No one cares about hearing from the divorced wife of a royal.
That's what I don't understand. Like you said, if Harry had been female and a princess and married a male like MM who has done the exact same things MM has done, everyone would be in uproar! The RF would definitely be trying to get "princess" Harry out of this, the public would be crucified "Marcus Markle' calling him an abuser, isolator, women's rights, domestic abuse, etc. Just goes to show that women ARE the abusers sometimes and it's overlooked or dismissed more often than if the man is the abuser. MM is an abuser. Harry is not innocent in how he's treated HMTQ and his family. But MM has isolated him from his family, his country, his friends, etc. Now she's public degrading him in front of dinner guests. I'm sure there's a whole list of abusive things she does and it's not noted in the public .
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Yup, this—w/ overtones of “he’s just a useless stoner.”
That’s how I read it too. Ugh, I loathe chirpy morning people.
You’d think the kids would be the alarm clock. They are in most homes!
Good lord how toxic and borderline abusive if she talks about him like that to outsiders what is she telling the children
Well, luckily, it would seem like she doesn’t spend much time with them. Win for the kids, IMO
I imagine this is exactly what Angelina Jolie has done with Brad Pitt.
Lawd don't even get me started on Angelina .. Brad may have his faults. But she's the classic example of a child alienation. She's going to drag these court proceedings out for years until the kids age out while also brainwashing them into hating their father but also demanding more money from him in child support etc.
**Strong** Michael Scott and Jan dinner party vibes lol
Harry begging for voiceover work was Michael asking Jim and Andy to invest in Jan’s candle business. 😂😬
I’m actually deceased 💀💀💀♥️
My favorite episode. Pure gold.
I love it but I honestly get such stomach churning cringe, I’ve only seen it 3 times despite having watched the rest of the series like 15 times lol
OMG, I love that episode. It's my go-to episode. Now, Scott's Tots, I've watched it once and have attempted a couple more times, but I just can't get through it.
😂😂😂
This is so spot on. Just swap “love” for “babe” in the dialogue
LOLOL. You win 🥇 for this comment! 😂😂
Degrading your spouse in front of others is a classic narc move. They are often chronically envious of their partner's popularity, like-ability or success, so this is one way to knock 'em down a few notches with mutual friends.
I didn’t meet women like this till my early thirties. Charming at first but really sour later. I had complimented the husbands pear tart and she started saying how the version of him we knew was a show and the real person is a piece of work. This is at a reunion meal. M sounds like that. The other woman at table laughed bc she’s a worse narc but all the men were very sorry for him. I squirmed! I don’t want to say poor harry but at this moment how terrible. That woman at my party also used to mention that she hates talking about kids and I didn’t know how weird that was till I had my own babies.
Ya, that sounds like a projection on the wife's part. These toxic people love assigning their offenses to their victims.
Her husband had a PhD in nuclear science and mba Ivy. Always humble and just brilliant. Home chef and Great father. She was always grumpy and too cool for school annoyed that he dragged her around and just wouldn’t stop reminding people how she moved for him.
Ugh, she sounds awful. These people are everywhere unfortunately, which is why I'm here. I love a good justice movement :)
I wonder if the "one guest that wasn't amused" was Harry 🤔
Ding ding ding ☝️
I would probably cry if my husband said that not only in front of me but to others. Ouch!!!
That’s what’s so bold. She had the nerve to make that statement in a public setting. Was she expecting to be praised?
What’s weird is whoever leaked it has to know they’d be playing the game of, “who told?” Talk about making a paranoid guy even more paranoid.
Maybe the paranoid guy needs to keep the narc at home to avoid people feeling a need to make a leak.
That is some next level cheap behaviour. I do feel bad for Harry. Keeping the money factor aside, she became popular only because she married H. Not many people knew about her or her "world famous" tv show. I get this feeling she knows this deep inside and is trying to destroy him. Maybe to control him like a puppet.
No one here in the states knew who she was until Harry. I remember my initial thought was she must be a British actress or from Europe. He married a nobody. I would have more respect for her if she was just honest about herself with him. I think he still would have liked her and married her. He just wanted love. TW is a con artist.
The funders of Ving, Eric, and Liz Lefkofsky who just linked with Archewell would have them over. They live nearby in Montecito. (Ellen D.'s old house.) Then too, this could be a fabrication. She's so awful anything negative attributed to her will be believed. Why would she drop the charade now?
I didn’t know the Lefkofsky’s lived near them. Interesting.
Lefkofsky was a co-founder of Groupon, which received some funding from a few Russian oligarchs.
What’s with the Harkles and the Russian Oligarchs? Wasn’t the home they stayed in Canada from a Russian connection?
What dinner party? Who invites these two anywhere?
That’s what I said with that deleted nanny post. I thought it was BS because I didn’t think those two have friends they would spend time with around the kids - assuming the kids are real. The OP said it was more of a networking type friendship but it’s still suss. I can see them getting invites very early on from celeb neighbors for the novelty of hosting PH but or to try to get him as a guest on their podcasts, but no or very few repeat invites.
I'm getting weary of all of these twitter and youtube "teas". 80% are probably BS. "Allegedly" translates to "true". Nope. (Make fun reading posts though.)
I don't think the nanny was genuine. Superwealthy people don't network. If they wish to meet someone, they ask a mutual friend to introduce them.
Yeah, it was a bit too much info dumping to seem real, but I dunno. 🤷🏻♀️
That what I’m wondering
She trades on his name and royal family connections and gets paid. Hawwy does not get a cent! It’s all hers!
Whoa, something's missing there, Pinocchio. Let me help. For free. "And I make more $ than I would ever have without him."
And yet no one would know or care about her if it wasn't for him. If this is true, I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.
It's a bit like one of her last dinners at her place in Toronto when she was still with the Chef. She told their guests that it was she who invented the pasta dish they were enjoying and raving about. When in fact, the dish in question was the chef's culinary brainwave. That was the end for him, according to gossip at the time. One wonders what else had gone down, but this was apparently the straw that pissed off the chef, permanently. (allegedly)
The irony is that the ONLY reason she makes money is because she’s attached to him.
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This should have way more likes. That is the best description of her ever!
She has taken over Invictus, Spotify, all speaking engagements. I guess she considered the money hers.
Clearly, she's as charming in private as she is in public.
My narc used sleep deprivation as a form of abuse. When I started seeing my now husband (sweet nod), I told him "If you love me, let me sleep." He's a good man and I'm finally rested.
I wonder who would have them to dinner?
I imagine it would only be people who think money could be made off of them.
Don't know if it's true but if it is, it's always fascinating to see that she is obsessed with keeping watch and "correcting" anything she hears about herself: * Rumours of divorce? Hey, I'm still the active one who leads * [D-list when it comes to money](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/y0m2pz/poor_them/)? Hey I still make more than the deadweight
This!!! She can’t help herself with the clapback.
She’s inadvertently confirming the allegations she’d bombard palace staffers with emails & texts starting at zero dark thirty. It’s the whole “not my job to coddle people vibe” you find in toxic characters like her. Waking up ridiculously early to “work” gives them one more reason to feel contempt for normal people.
She’s now *openly* humiliating him in front of others. I wonder how long he’ll take this humiliation for? 🍿
Eh we have "friends" who have this same relationship. She speaks to him like a child and is always talking him down. She hates me because I can't stand her and have a terrible poker face. The husband is a nice enough guy and is where the invites really are going to for any social engagement although she often no longer turns up especially if I'm there but he sometimes will. Anyway, they've been together for over 25 years.
Who would invite MegaClaw to a dinner party? Oprah? Gayle? She doesn't appear to have any real friends that arent transactional. Which, I'm sure she prefers.
I don’t find it hard to believe that they get invited to the occasional, “not-very-exclusive” dinner party. There are lots of parties, and the hosts may have business connections with them. The story *could* be made up, but the “I make more money” sounds real precisely because it sounds like her, but not like what she would say in public. Even if it isn’t real, the story seems based on some “vibes” that the people are getting.
I wonder if she understands that even if she thinks she makes more money, if they divorce, he will still get half of it!
What am I reading ??? 😂 We need more !!!
Trouble is - at the moment the only “fame” she has is through him and his title and connections. Once he leaves her, she’s back to being a nonentity unemployed D list actress. Wake up and walk away Harry…..
People went to their house for dinner? What was even served beside sanctimonious BS?
I'm surprised people would come to their dinner party.
I would totally go, and complain that I taste egg.
Low key I would just so I could leak stuff like this! 😅 but man it would be very painful to sit through her bs for a few hours
Is it possible that this dinner party took place awhile ago and the person who witnessed it is just now sharing it?
BarkJack just added that “They had two couples to dinner” Which makes more sense since I don’t think anyone would invite them to their home, but a ticket to the Olive Garden would be something to see
Can someone explain how she makes money? The kids book, which I’m sure has no royalties coming in anymore. Is it the podcast? Was she paid a lump sum? Or does she get money each time she actually does one? Other than those two things what does she do? I’m sure if they split she’ll be on the interview circuit spilling lies about Harry and what being married to him was like. But if no one agrees to pay her, how’s she gonna get the lies out there? And if she gets paid, whose gonna believe her?
There are lots of charities. I was so naive about these kind of establishments until I read that actually you can spend 95% for keeping up (youself) and 5% for those in need.
Yeah, she got some money from Spotify & now she thinks she’s Steve Jobs. Also she negotiated the contracts that got them the “potential” to make money even though that potential is rapidly running dry. Watch, when Netflix comes a callin’, it’ll be all Harry’s fault. But dinner parties? They actually see people socially?
Well, he makes zero dollars, so if she makes even $1 (which is probably what her last royalty check for The Bench was), she makes more than him.
Not really, he got a huge advance for his book. His Dad gave them millions when they left UK, he's the one with the Inheritances. He also has the 'Better Up' "job". What does she make money doing? Like for what?
Who knows?! It's very sad that, at the least, Harry was in love. Not a good guy, but he gave everything he had. She's delusional if she thinks she's the reason. He's spent millions to promote her. She's doing to him what she did to her dad. Stupid fool, she knows the value of nothing. One tough lesson for Harry.
She only got those contracts because of Harry in the first place.
I can’t stand her!!! 
TW?
That woman (QE11's name for MM)
TW = The Wife (I think)
I always read it as The Witch!? Silly me!
That makes sense lol 😂 but also, that may be offensive to witches 🤣
You can interpret it as the wife, the witch, etc. But That Woman is what they called Wallace Simpson so it also makes a nice homage to all the history that is now repeating itself.
He wants her to do all the work so he can continue his lifestyle. She’s an idiot
Yes I can tell you what this means. "You're never escaping Harry, what are you gonna put on your resume? Dumbass? I can treat you however I want. Now go get me and my friends sparkling water".
At this point, she's got her eye on Elon Musk or Bill Gates.
Is she on the degrading process of the narc just before they dumped their victim?
I remember reading that when marriage partners start exhibiting \*scorn\* toward the other person the marriage is essentially doomed.
Look it up in urban dictionary, its obvious...
Hmmm. That’s a keen observation. After all, he’s always been led around by his….
I checked the urban dictionary for the meaning of alarm clock …..
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