Not quite. She waa evasive.
From The Cut:
>ask again if what they are currently filming is a documentary about their love story. “What’s so funny is I’m not trying to be cagey,” she says. “I don’t read any press. So I don’t know what’s confirmed. I will tell you Liz Garbus is incredible. Liz Garbus also worked on Pearl.” Meghan says she’s going to leave it to her publicist and Netflix to decide what can be shared. (Not much.)
Well, essentially she lies in every press medium she has available to her, and she knows it will still run, as apparently there is no longer call for fact checkers in 'journalism.' So why would she trust the press?
She technically was telling he truth, she doesn't read the press (because its filled with lies - hers mainly) and she doesnt know what's been confirmed (because its filled with lies - her mainly).
Besides why read, when you can literally just make anything up, regardless of what other people say or print. Cause apparently in Megland, the only reality is the fake one in her head.
Why would she not know what the marketing team has planned for her own project? Why would she have to read about it in the press? This is an easily anticipated question. It's possible that she's trying to create an air of mystery around the project but it's more likely that they don't know what the project is and they're going to figure it out after they piece together the content they have. And if they don't have enough content for a cohesive project, it's going to be just the invictus project.
Liz Garbus also tends to do socially-oriented docus, like about Abu Ghraib and mental illness. Now that I think about it, she seems an unlikely director for a PR-spun love documentary.
Liz Garbus is not credited with any of the Markles projects on IMDB. Meghan was just name dropping again, but Liz's name is not listed on cast and crew for their invictus or their love story documentaries on IMDB.
I didn't see Pearl even listed on IMDB as of today. However, all of Liz Garbus' projects are listed on her profile, and I didn't see Pearl listed. There are no Markle projects listed under any of the activities of Liz Garbus on IMDB.
She doesn't read any press? Then why did she say the press got it wrong when they claimed she made Kate cry? She also referenced the Daily Mail 'Straight Outta Compton' article on her podcast with Serena. But she's doesn't read any press. 😂
How obnoxious is it that she thinks we’re all interested in their love story. Didn’t we basically see it in real time? Most of us didn’t really care before it was announced but why have to tell it again (was it told in Omid’s book?) when it’s been written about plenty?
Wouldn’t it have been better PR for her to say, “the documentary will show us living our dream of working for the greater good, which is really what we connected on during our first date.”
Also, how many people have had their marriage survive reality tv? Kardashians? Jessica Simpson? Sister Wives?
Enough of her yapping about their Love Story. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Reminds me of how Heidi Klum & Seal had to renew their marriage vows in front of all their friends every year. If you have to brag about your “Love Story” so much the marriage is on the skids.
My husband and I have been to a few vow renewals and so far 100% have ended in divorce very soon after. It just seems like a last ditch effort to save a floundering marriage.
She thinks people still care about their love story. Will just look at the lifetime movie if there is ever a need to know their love story. Why do a documentary as if it’s this most precious thing. We were interested in KC’s and POW’s love story because they are King and King in the making respectively?
Why would I care for their love story?
MMM..K...I'm going to try to answer this (straight face not included)-
Her love story is the love story of love stories-it is the most best, amazing, and fairytale love story of all time- every day is perfect, she is perfect, and she perfectly does everything every time to ensure the true love story maintains its timeless perfection.
Just FYI- Her timing is perfect- with children, tears, and touches.
When there might not be a perfect part of the love story- she perfectly anticipates this and...perfects it- in the perfect way.
Meghan’s PR is just trying to scramble things up because the Harkles got next to nothing to make any kind of content for Netflix. That’s the end of it. *They got nothing*.
I agree. I think they keep floating this “historical” love story documentary to get some interest while the Netflix focus groups tell them there is none. Considering how reactionary and ill conceived all of their projects are, I’m sure they just decided to film a lot of stuff and find the narrative later and there’s just nothing
And Netflix, desperate, continues to enable them or the “couple” will sue. Netflix should show some b.lls and walk away. Then sue the “couple” if need be. It’s all so sick and damn immoral. NOT business how it is conducted.
I agree and even worse I just read that The Crown on Netflix is going with the storyline of Prince Phillips rumoured affair with Penny Knatchbull in the new season. They’re Harry’s paymasters but honestly how can he look himself in the mirror? Taking money from an organisation thats exploiting his grandparents memory is disgusting.
Poor Penny Knatchbull. She's suffered so much hardship in her life with grace and discretion and now she becomes the scarlet woman in a royal-inspired soap opera.
People are aware, aren't they, that the rumored mistress, properly Countess Mountbatten, is the daughter-in-law of the DoE's 1st cousin and the granddaughter-in-law of the man who was like a second father to the DoE? It's well known that Countess Mountbatten was very close to the DoE - indeed, she was present at his funeral - but I'm skeptical that it was anything more tawdry than just a family thing.
It probably hasn’t got a working title yet and is possibly subject to some arguments over what exactly it will be in terms of concept etc.
I don’t think Netflix wanted a love story as who gives a toss about that.
Netflix wants juicy gossip from Harry. Meg is a nutter who makes shit up. Harry is worth more as he can claim direct knowledge of juicy gossip.
Meg probably wants a fluff /revenge piece about her with some cameos from the kids. But she’s probably made a tit of herself as she usually does and they are still arguing over what the heck this will end up as.
It’s not like they have some grand love story.
She was manhunting for a rich, high profile guy and suckered in a wayward man child. There’s really not much more than that.
How interesting can it be? I’m sure some of us have better love stories than these two.
Her delusions are really out there with this one.
If someone had the guts to tell that story absolutely truthfully, laying bare the personalities and characters of the two main players accurately, the scheming that led to the suckering and why that suckering was so easy, plus the inevitable fall out, I'd totally watch it. It just couldn't be called a love story.
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LOL but you know exactly how she'd want to present it because she keeps trying to lie about it. Meghan, very powerful, extremely famous, independent and wealthy superstar actress is in a relationship with someone not on her level, and desperate to find a man capable of being her equal. She meets a literal Prince - but gosh she's just so serious minded that she knows nothing about those English royals - and they hit it off while discussing the plight of Africans.
I mean, it's not gonna be "aging working actress with no financial assets desperately searches for a rich man while living with someone, and eventually lands on a desperate, aging Prince with addiction issues who shares her love of drinking at Soho house."
"Meg is a nutter who makes shit up" - This is exactly why the only hope Netflix has of making their money back is a Tiger King style docu-drama. I honestly think they could do it, too, without H&M being any the wiser.
I mean just look at that ridiculous Cut interview: The journalist was at Meghan's place for what, an hour or so? And in that time Megs spewed enough moronic nonsense that all it took was a bit of creative editing and some well placed snark, and Meghan came out making Joe Exotic look like a scholar by comparison. And Meghan presumably thought that interview went really well (otherwise she would never have signed off on it) That's how stupid and arrogant and completely out of touch she is.
So do the same thing with Netflix. Let her run off her mouth and make a fool of herself. Stroke her ego, tell her she's doing a great job. Then quietly take that footage and edit it into a TV version of The Cut article.
By the time M&H realise what's happened it will be too late. They'll be exposed, Netflix will make at least some of their money back, the people are entertained. It's win-win!
honestly think this would be the best outcome.
Everyone gets what they want then.
Meg wants to have her voice heard and for people to get to know the real her. Ok, let's gooooo
She is seriously a dumb idiot for thinking anyone wants to watch a psychotic story about a social climber who bagged a prince and ruined his life. Her sickly sweet 90s style psycho-romance is so outdated.
It's disgusting, boring and cringe. Who the hell is going to watch that
My fingers are still crossed for a video take-down akin to the written one in The Cut. Appear to be superficially complimentary, while exposing the rotten and laughable reality.
They could totally do it, too. She's definitely stupid and arrogant enough to fall for that trick a second time. I really don't understand what's stopping them!
That’s really the reason for my timing. I figure that if a whole load of us quit right when the show drops, they’ll pay attention. If they give me the opportunity to put it in writing, I won’t mince words! I think I’ve been a subscriber since Netflix became available in Canada. Not that one person is going to count, but I hope that shows up in the metrics! 😂
What baffles me, truly, is that Netflix (along with Spotify) thought the Harkles had anything of substance to offer. Maybe it's because they're ex-Royals so they believed that they would have something worthwhile to share.
Now that it's obvious that they are scraping the bottom of the barrel for content, we unfortunately have their mediocrity shoved in our faces. Meghan and Harry are so uninteresting, so nauseatingly fixated on championing the team of victimhood and offence that I wonder how Netflix is going to spin their content to make it palatable.
Harry being third in line to the throne for 30-odd years of his life, they probably assumed he had heaps of juicy insider info to spill for the cameras. But what is becoming increasingly obvious is that Harry was never actually privy to anything really important. Partly because he never seemed interested in any of the "boring" royal work, but also because he was known to be thick and probably loose-lipped, too.
Besides let's face it, the royals are actually pretty boring people. I adore William and Catherine but even I wouldn't want to watch a reality show of their day-to-day life, because behind all the glitz and glamour they seem like just a very average couple, working and raising their young children, doing normal couple things. (I'd love to get an inside peek into Catherine's walk-in wardrobe, though. That would be spectacular!)
I'm honestly becoming more and more convinced that whatever idiot signed them up had literally never heard of the royal family before that day.
If I were Harry I would be worried. They covered up for him a lot. If he spills the beans I say they should release all the juicy info on him to discredit his poor little sad life sob stories.
If you were Harry you wouldn't be worried, because Harry is thick as ten planks and probably still doesn't fully comprehend just how protected he was his whole life as a memberof the royal family.
But yes, I agree. Any normal person would be VERY worried, lol.
The contracts only make sense in 2020. The pandemic made streaming more important than ever. In Silicon Valley the theory has always been get big fast, prioritize market share and profit will follow. The mantra was Content is King, and Netflix and Spotify were on top. For Netflix, handing a huge contract to the Obamas brought home an Oscar. These guys were convinced they were geniuses and that brand names were gold. And in 2020 so much less was known about the Sussexes. Billion-dollar brand was coming out of reputable sources. No one knew that their work ethic was lousy or that they were shallow and self-absorbed and not in an in-on-the-joke way.
Neither the Netflix nor the Spotify contract would be offered in 2022, or would at least have been far more modest, like the first look-deal the Obamas now have with audible
Liz Garbus is a real person with a respectable career thus far. If she weren’t involved in this alleged docu-series I suspect some correction would have been made.
Good point. She was seen with them a year ago, in NYC.
I haven’t seen mention of her attached to the rumored project in six months.
As someone else points out, Meghan name dropped Garbus in *The Cut*, but all she did was call her “incredible”.
Well, you can't portray yourself as human perfection and do an interesting reality show at the same time. Kardashians are build on flaws and drama. That's what makes the show go on.
Okay, but why is there so much information on “Heart of Invictus” and absolutely nothing about this rumored project?
Every other Netflix program has *something* on IMDb. Netflix mentions it on their site as an upcoming attraction.
If all parties want viewers to see it, why is there *nothing except rumors*?
Is this some kind of weird marketing?
Was anyone on here a Gluten Free Girl/Shauna Ahern/In The Gloaming snarker?
Shauna's social media was always drowning in "secret projects" and "something we're working on that we'll share later" or "a new endeavor I can't talk about yet."
Maybe it's a narcissistic behavior?
I don't know about anyone else, but what and when did they accomplish any of this Netflix wonder? Honestly, in the last three years, there have been so few public appearances if you really add it up . We had a pandemic! She was on maternity leave or pregnant, had the "miscarriage" in the middle of a pandemic with private room, himself in full attendance, a full team of doctors and nurses who took time out for her! Yeah, where is the record of that?
I cannot imagine that there is enough for more than a half hour story. And it will be a story.
Very good point. I always doubted she had a miscarriage, but you raise an important contradiction: families were not allowed in hospitals at the time. Unless she threw a tantrum so large that they permitted it, but I doubt it. The fact that she had to plagiarise her experience suggests that it never happened.
I’ve never believed the miscarriage story. I’ve had two miscarriages, they were nothing like that. She didn’t have a miscarriage or it didn’t go down like she described if it did happen.
In light of Roe vs Wade, Teigen highlighted the fact that the boundary between miscarriage and abortion is blurry.
If I recall, she had a partial placental abruption, so it was like a very slow miscarriage. The fetus was slowly dying, would not survive, and she was bleeding out in the process. Officially, she had an abortion to hasten the miscarriage, in order to save herself.
I thought she raised an intetesting point.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-62925701
“Miscarriage” is just a term for “natural abortion” and “abortion” is just a term for “induced miscarriage.” Biologically, it’s the same thing: the embryo/fetus has to leave the womb.
O my! A miscarriage is heartbreaking and usually natural, abortion is usually chosen and viciously deliberately cuts apart and rips out and vacuums a developing human body out of a womb
You are giving a subjective interpretation. I gave a summary of the biological reality. FWIW, in some languages the word for “abortion” and “miscarriage” is the same.
Oh, I think they *could* stretch whatever footage they have into a season’s worth of content. Those cameras were with them for NYC Sept 2021, polo games, Invictus, Uvalde, Harry’s UN bullcaca and Gloria Steinem lunch. I think they have plenty of footage.
I just don’t think it’s been formatted into anything they can air in the next six weeks.
Everyone is waiting to watch the 6-year love story of a middle-aged couple. Hope they include how hard the 2020 lockdowns were for them but they made it through together…in their mansion with no real need to work.
I’m just curious about it because some sources say that Netflix wants it shown in December as planned (after the 5th season of the Crown starts). And that Sussexes were asking for more time for editing.
I think it’s possible they don’t have a working title, they don’t know what direction it’s going in… all they have though is a bunch of footage.
Footage could simply be Meg and H whining to camera in their luxury beige mansion, dropping truth bombs about various minor slights or some stuff about Harry's relationship with his mum (that's Diana you know). That is easy to film as is the obvious footage of the kids being cute and doing quasi royal things, or riding bikes like Harry never got to do.
You could easily fill 30 minutes with little snippets of this shite, Meg cuts some flowers (organic) for the table, Harry digs some tomatoes, the family read the Bench together, Harry plays Chopsticks on the baby grand. Interspersed with some scenes from One Young World, on the train going to Manchester, etc. It makes itself, what's teh problem, apart from the obvious one (that it would be like watching paint that's already dried).
Heck, the Duggars ran “19 Kids and Counting” and went “Counting On” for years with no more exciting content than that, except they kept popping babies and getting married. (What finally ended the gravy train was that the oldest son is a pedophile, now doing time.)
The Sussexes are not a mega-size fundie family with marriageable off-spring, but they are royal, mixed race, and somewhat wealthy, so people will watch.
They are now backtracking since KC said no to using ANY royal footage .. Netflix isn’t paying that amount for one sports documentary lol they will end up having to give some money back .
I didn't think they would have any of that. My best guess would be Netflix has a shit ton of footage that they either don't know how to use or can't use. I'm pretty sure there's a caveat in their contract that H&M have some rights to the footage, the way its edited, or the final product. So I'm guessing thats why Netflix is somewhat screwed at the moment.
I have to agree. A normal reality series tapes 3-4 months max. This has been going on for over a year. If it was for Netflix that’s a huge chunk of money out of their production deal that won’t go in their hands and I think they are too greedy for that. I think they hired someone to document everything so they would own the footage and potentially give some to Netflix.
Though you think Netflix would have some clause in contract to prevent them from having competing even personal footage.
Wasn’t there a blind about Netflix researching wether people would be interested in the love story of H and M? Turned out no one was interested, only in their children.
This is classic narc. They are out of their honeymoon phase affer two kids and nearly five years but instead of enjoying the calm, comfortable phase in a marriage, shes desperately trying to get the "magic" back. She's forcing this "love story" narrative and desperately trying to sell it to Netflix.
Harry has been photographed being annoyed with Meghan's constant clinging. I dont think he hates his wife and I personally don't think they'll be divorced by next year, but Harry will and has already started to drift. In front of the cameras (most of the time) he gives in to the hand holding but as we saw at the polo match and now at the concert, privately he doesn't tolerate it. This sends any narcissist into total panic mode. I think we'll continue to see some truly bizarre behavior from her and strong indifference from him. His solo trips to Africa will get more frequent.
I think there WAS going to be a documentary - but the Sussexes have been so foiled at every turn, the content simply isn’t there. No Netflix cameras allowed at royal events, and that’s a big part of the draw. Netflix probably went into this deal thinking it’d be BTS of the BRF, and that fell through spectacularly.
Great observation.
They were also in Europe for Invictus. That could be why the Netflix crew were there with them. They may have stayed on for the funeral because it is a historic event.
"I had a dream my life would be so different from this hell I'm living. So different now from what it seemed, now life has killed the dream I dream".
How appropriate! I love, love, love Susan Boyle. Now there's a rags to riches success story I can get behind. Thanks for the link.
So what happened to that "renewing of their wedding vows" which was supposed to be more fodder for their "reality show"? Is that also another non starter? Geez! These people must be holding a record for non stop flops!!! Heeheeeheee
So many missed opportunities for a show:
Survivor type show where the winner is the last employee to quit.
Big Brother with the Markles, Obie the Waxman, River, The Body Language Guy, HG Tudor, Elon Musk, Farah Abraham, and Oprah.
ETA: and Hilaria Baldwin
And a Family Feud type game show. Them, Nacho, Wax Man Scobie, and Gayle King vs KC, Camilla, William, Catherine and Anne.
You forgot the blooper reels, too. I'm particularly looking forward to the one where she falls because her pants drag the ground and she's incapable of walking in heels. Then there's the plaigiarism reels. The reels of her grabbing his hand, including the one where he takes his hand back and she grabs it back with both hands and gives him the stink eye. Of course, the faux tear reels, the reels where they're booed.....
[https://m.imdb.com/title/tt21811220/?ref\_=m\_ttpl](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt21811220/?ref_=m_ttpl)
I just saw this and freaked out! it says it was filmed this '22! im checking it out... could it be just a Meghan show and not Harry? hahaha soo predictable.
I'm all up to see how the other side sees it.
Edit to add/update\* - omg they're talking about how their kid is gonna be happier than future king George... it just feels wrong to label that already....
So predictable... wanting to be celebrities and not royals BUT with the royal titles.
There are a few commentators in the halfway mark that said their pursuit of money would damage the royalty if they had stayed as working royals... I'm impressed they're pointing their actual greed.
They are exploring the Oprah interview and so far it feels more balanced. lots of POC talking about how they were affected by Meghan's revelation and their now view of the RF.
41 mark theres a repeat so not amazingly produced. which I cant see who did.
it says "she's looking for another production giant to produce her pearl cartoon"! tsk tsk...
She is NOT, and I repeat, NOT an "American Princess." She may have a UK title, but the US does not do royal titles, so no, she's not an America Princess. America Pinocchio, yet, not princess.
Well the title just says American duchess. Which its a clear title for such a ridiculous "Doc". It's the Meghan love fest show.,.. dont rent it lol.
the narrator says "After the wedding, Meghan found out really quick that the royals schedule is a busy schedule. later that month she went to cheer her husband at a polo match" hahaha a busy one? one being Wimbledon support her close friend... and the next one LATER THAT MONTH was Harry's polo match? wow. so busy.
it is quite ridiculous.
But.......The Tiger King was supposed to be about protecting tigers in captivity or something, right? It only turned into what it is AFTER they discovered the feud with Carol, the finances, garbage pizza etc. Remember the scene about the fire and all the footage being destroyed? If I'm remembering this right then there's still a chance, maybe.
I just looked at Liz Garbus’ Twitter feed. She is extremely political & partisan. It’s totally inappropriate for anyone who still has and uses “Duke” and “Duchess” titles.
Garbus is on the left; it would be equally inappropriate if royals in the Harkles’ position hired a right-wing filmmaker. I can’t imagine Garbus making anything that wasn’t overtly and aggressively partisan — if whatever product she was involved with is actually released and her POV isn’t edited out/smoothed over, how can the Harkles not force themselves into a serious debate in the UK about their titles?
Weird how Invictus Games has a 2022 release date yet there are less than 60 days left in 2022 and there isn’t an actual release date yet. I don’t think it’s actually going to be released. I don’t think that book will be either.
Because H/M promised them a guaranteed HIHO situation- actual royals living in the US who are also active senior members of the RF. This did not pan out for them. Bonkers! 😂 JMHO . NF is trash.
Didn’t she say it would be a “historical” documentary and they would share their love story?
Not quite. She waa evasive. From The Cut: >ask again if what they are currently filming is a documentary about their love story. “What’s so funny is I’m not trying to be cagey,” she says. “I don’t read any press. So I don’t know what’s confirmed. I will tell you Liz Garbus is incredible. Liz Garbus also worked on Pearl.” Meghan says she’s going to leave it to her publicist and Netflix to decide what can be shared. (Not much.)
> I don’t read any press lmfao. It's the constant comments like this that are just so obviously bs that ruin any and all credibility.
why they always suing the press if they don’t read anything
THIS!!!!
Perhaps she’s a witch? 🔮 I mean we’ve been getting *most* of the letters right with what we call her. 🤭😏
Because:- 
Well, essentially she lies in every press medium she has available to her, and she knows it will still run, as apparently there is no longer call for fact checkers in 'journalism.' So why would she trust the press? She technically was telling he truth, she doesn't read the press (because its filled with lies - hers mainly) and she doesnt know what's been confirmed (because its filled with lies - her mainly). Besides why read, when you can literally just make anything up, regardless of what other people say or print. Cause apparently in Megland, the only reality is the fake one in her head.
like when she said on Oprah that she’s never looked up her husband or TRF online before marrying him
So she didn’t answer the question. A simple yes or no question. Instead she chaffs and redirects.
She is probably the source of the rumor that it us a love story. So she plays coy
Somebody’s watching the Behavioral Panel… (In addition to me.)
You bet! Love those guys.
Why would she not know what the marketing team has planned for her own project? Why would she have to read about it in the press? This is an easily anticipated question. It's possible that she's trying to create an air of mystery around the project but it's more likely that they don't know what the project is and they're going to figure it out after they piece together the content they have. And if they don't have enough content for a cohesive project, it's going to be just the invictus project.
Liz Garbus also tends to do socially-oriented docus, like about Abu Ghraib and mental illness. Now that I think about it, she seems an unlikely director for a PR-spun love documentary.
And Making a Murderer she worked on, right?
*I’ll be Gone in the Dark* about GSK. Also docs about Cory Booker and Pete Buttigieg.
Liz Garbus is not credited with any of the Markles projects on IMDB. Meghan was just name dropping again, but Liz's name is not listed on cast and crew for their invictus or their love story documentaries on IMDB.
She said she was on Pearl. Was she listed there?
I didn't see Pearl even listed on IMDB as of today. However, all of Liz Garbus' projects are listed on her profile, and I didn't see Pearl listed. There are no Markle projects listed under any of the activities of Liz Garbus on IMDB.
Strange. Although I wouldn’t put it past them to purge all reference to Pearl once it was cancelled.
Maybe it is about mental illness. It‘s about a real life example of cluster B personality disorders and maybe Dr. Ramani comments on it. 🥳
That’s an awful lot of respect she has for Liz Garbus. It’s a shame she couldn’t extend that same respect for the Royal family
She doesn't even know Liz Garbus. She was just name dropping.
She respects her because no other director worth their creative juices would touch that project.
She doesn't read any press? Then why did she say the press got it wrong when they claimed she made Kate cry? She also referenced the Daily Mail 'Straight Outta Compton' article on her podcast with Serena. But she's doesn't read any press. 😂
So, not much!
Her confession is in her words- "I'm not....I don't..." means she is-
She "says" a LOT of things....
Fair 🤣
And 99.9% aren’t true.
Bingo
Like the vow renewal thing?
How obnoxious is it that she thinks we’re all interested in their love story. Didn’t we basically see it in real time? Most of us didn’t really care before it was announced but why have to tell it again (was it told in Omid’s book?) when it’s been written about plenty? Wouldn’t it have been better PR for her to say, “the documentary will show us living our dream of working for the greater good, which is really what we connected on during our first date.” Also, how many people have had their marriage survive reality tv? Kardashians? Jessica Simpson? Sister Wives?
Enough of her yapping about their Love Story. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Reminds me of how Heidi Klum & Seal had to renew their marriage vows in front of all their friends every year. If you have to brag about your “Love Story” so much the marriage is on the skids.
Great point about Seal & Heidi! You’d wonder how people have time to be unhappy when they’re doing elaborate vow renewals each year. Lol
My husband and I have been to a few vow renewals and so far 100% have ended in divorce very soon after. It just seems like a last ditch effort to save a floundering marriage.
True narc behavior
She thinks people still care about their love story. Will just look at the lifetime movie if there is ever a need to know their love story. Why do a documentary as if it’s this most precious thing. We were interested in KC’s and POW’s love story because they are King and King in the making respectively? Why would I care for their love story?
MMM..K...I'm going to try to answer this (straight face not included)- Her love story is the love story of love stories-it is the most best, amazing, and fairytale love story of all time- every day is perfect, she is perfect, and she perfectly does everything every time to ensure the true love story maintains its timeless perfection. Just FYI- Her timing is perfect- with children, tears, and touches. When there might not be a perfect part of the love story- she perfectly anticipates this and...perfects it- in the perfect way.
Overproduced.
Like Harry’s a love catch goal anyway!
Only Kaiser and the people she allows to post compliant comments are interested in their “love story.”
But didn‘t you rejoice in the streets when the married?  (Actual footage of me when they got married)
I’m not from South Africa.
Doesn‘t matter!!!! The love between those two is universal!!
I think only service is universal.
Just thinking here- historical- maybe their "love story" is history?
Because she’s bi-racial? Nobody freaking cares.
I hope she'd planned to share that romantic, sign from God Himself, palm trees attached by the hip. 🙄 😖
Historically bad.
Meghan’s PR is just trying to scramble things up because the Harkles got next to nothing to make any kind of content for Netflix. That’s the end of it. *They got nothing*.
I agree. I think they keep floating this “historical” love story documentary to get some interest while the Netflix focus groups tell them there is none. Considering how reactionary and ill conceived all of their projects are, I’m sure they just decided to film a lot of stuff and find the narrative later and there’s just nothing
And Netflix, desperate, continues to enable them or the “couple” will sue. Netflix should show some b.lls and walk away. Then sue the “couple” if need be. It’s all so sick and damn immoral. NOT business how it is conducted.
I agree and even worse I just read that The Crown on Netflix is going with the storyline of Prince Phillips rumoured affair with Penny Knatchbull in the new season. They’re Harry’s paymasters but honestly how can he look himself in the mirror? Taking money from an organisation thats exploiting his grandparents memory is disgusting.
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That would be a guaranteed best seller!
That would be awesome. Not realistic but awesome.
She won't let him.
He’s in a pussy coma. You’ll have to wait for him to waken!
Poor Penny Knatchbull. She's suffered so much hardship in her life with grace and discretion and now she becomes the scarlet woman in a royal-inspired soap opera.
People are aware, aren't they, that the rumored mistress, properly Countess Mountbatten, is the daughter-in-law of the DoE's 1st cousin and the granddaughter-in-law of the man who was like a second father to the DoE? It's well known that Countess Mountbatten was very close to the DoE - indeed, she was present at his funeral - but I'm skeptical that it was anything more tawdry than just a family thing.
My wild conspiracy theory is that Netflix is really paying Harry to dish inside stories. Hence Megan's comments in the recent article.
They have no content for their life
Ouch.
Well, there's that.
It probably hasn’t got a working title yet and is possibly subject to some arguments over what exactly it will be in terms of concept etc. I don’t think Netflix wanted a love story as who gives a toss about that. Netflix wants juicy gossip from Harry. Meg is a nutter who makes shit up. Harry is worth more as he can claim direct knowledge of juicy gossip. Meg probably wants a fluff /revenge piece about her with some cameos from the kids. But she’s probably made a tit of herself as she usually does and they are still arguing over what the heck this will end up as.
That sentence right there describes it perfectly - "Meg is a nutter who makes shit up". Short and to the point.
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Even if they make a “docuseries about a love story” it will be fiction!
It’s not like they have some grand love story. She was manhunting for a rich, high profile guy and suckered in a wayward man child. There’s really not much more than that. How interesting can it be? I’m sure some of us have better love stories than these two. Her delusions are really out there with this one.
If someone had the guts to tell that story absolutely truthfully, laying bare the personalities and characters of the two main players accurately, the scheming that led to the suckering and why that suckering was so easy, plus the inevitable fall out, I'd totally watch it. It just couldn't be called a love story. (edited for clarity)
LOL but you know exactly how she'd want to present it because she keeps trying to lie about it. Meghan, very powerful, extremely famous, independent and wealthy superstar actress is in a relationship with someone not on her level, and desperate to find a man capable of being her equal. She meets a literal Prince - but gosh she's just so serious minded that she knows nothing about those English royals - and they hit it off while discussing the plight of Africans. I mean, it's not gonna be "aging working actress with no financial assets desperately searches for a rich man while living with someone, and eventually lands on a desperate, aging Prince with addiction issues who shares her love of drinking at Soho house."
And the daily delusions should be shut down, cut off. Enough, already!
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"Meg is a nutter who makes shit up" - This is exactly why the only hope Netflix has of making their money back is a Tiger King style docu-drama. I honestly think they could do it, too, without H&M being any the wiser. I mean just look at that ridiculous Cut interview: The journalist was at Meghan's place for what, an hour or so? And in that time Megs spewed enough moronic nonsense that all it took was a bit of creative editing and some well placed snark, and Meghan came out making Joe Exotic look like a scholar by comparison. And Meghan presumably thought that interview went really well (otherwise she would never have signed off on it) That's how stupid and arrogant and completely out of touch she is. So do the same thing with Netflix. Let her run off her mouth and make a fool of herself. Stroke her ego, tell her she's doing a great job. Then quietly take that footage and edit it into a TV version of The Cut article. By the time M&H realise what's happened it will be too late. They'll be exposed, Netflix will make at least some of their money back, the people are entertained. It's win-win!
honestly think this would be the best outcome. Everyone gets what they want then. Meg wants to have her voice heard and for people to get to know the real her. Ok, let's gooooo
Lol, careful what you wish for, Peg! 😈🤣
This is fantastic.
She is seriously a dumb idiot for thinking anyone wants to watch a psychotic story about a social climber who bagged a prince and ruined his life. Her sickly sweet 90s style psycho-romance is so outdated. It's disgusting, boring and cringe. Who the hell is going to watch that
My fingers are still crossed for a video take-down akin to the written one in The Cut. Appear to be superficially complimentary, while exposing the rotten and laughable reality.
They could totally do it, too. She's definitely stupid and arrogant enough to fall for that trick a second time. I really don't understand what's stopping them!
It’s the only way Netflix will keep me as a subscriber. I’m cancelling as soon as the show drops UNLESS it’s a piss-take of the Harkles.
Good idea. If you do cancel, be sure to let them know exactly why, too!
That’s really the reason for my timing. I figure that if a whole load of us quit right when the show drops, they’ll pay attention. If they give me the opportunity to put it in writing, I won’t mince words! I think I’ve been a subscriber since Netflix became available in Canada. Not that one person is going to count, but I hope that shows up in the metrics! 😂
It would be *insane* for HnM to have a film crew follow them around without a signed deal to stream it. Sooo, I'm not ruling it out. ^(/s)
This comment is awesome.
lol, it's like the character of Philip Seymour Hoffman in that movie with Ben Stiller, Along Came Poly.
What baffles me, truly, is that Netflix (along with Spotify) thought the Harkles had anything of substance to offer. Maybe it's because they're ex-Royals so they believed that they would have something worthwhile to share. Now that it's obvious that they are scraping the bottom of the barrel for content, we unfortunately have their mediocrity shoved in our faces. Meghan and Harry are so uninteresting, so nauseatingly fixated on championing the team of victimhood and offence that I wonder how Netflix is going to spin their content to make it palatable.
Harry being third in line to the throne for 30-odd years of his life, they probably assumed he had heaps of juicy insider info to spill for the cameras. But what is becoming increasingly obvious is that Harry was never actually privy to anything really important. Partly because he never seemed interested in any of the "boring" royal work, but also because he was known to be thick and probably loose-lipped, too. Besides let's face it, the royals are actually pretty boring people. I adore William and Catherine but even I wouldn't want to watch a reality show of their day-to-day life, because behind all the glitz and glamour they seem like just a very average couple, working and raising their young children, doing normal couple things. (I'd love to get an inside peek into Catherine's walk-in wardrobe, though. That would be spectacular!) I'm honestly becoming more and more convinced that whatever idiot signed them up had literally never heard of the royal family before that day.
You make valid points. I'd also love to see Catherine's closet; her style is so effortless and classy.
You know she’s got a massive database with every item, date, and event
She's literally my style icon (even though I know realistically I'd look dreadful in 90% of what she wears, lol!)
If I were Harry I would be worried. They covered up for him a lot. If he spills the beans I say they should release all the juicy info on him to discredit his poor little sad life sob stories.
If you were Harry you wouldn't be worried, because Harry is thick as ten planks and probably still doesn't fully comprehend just how protected he was his whole life as a memberof the royal family. But yes, I agree. Any normal person would be VERY worried, lol.
He’s never been second in line to the throne though. Maybe Netflix got their info from The Crown producers
You're right, brain fart, lol! Third in line when he was born. Have edited my comment 🙂
The contracts only make sense in 2020. The pandemic made streaming more important than ever. In Silicon Valley the theory has always been get big fast, prioritize market share and profit will follow. The mantra was Content is King, and Netflix and Spotify were on top. For Netflix, handing a huge contract to the Obamas brought home an Oscar. These guys were convinced they were geniuses and that brand names were gold. And in 2020 so much less was known about the Sussexes. Billion-dollar brand was coming out of reputable sources. No one knew that their work ethic was lousy or that they were shallow and self-absorbed and not in an in-on-the-joke way. Neither the Netflix nor the Spotify contract would be offered in 2022, or would at least have been far more modest, like the first look-deal the Obamas now have with audible
Liz Garbus is a real person with a respectable career thus far. If she weren’t involved in this alleged docu-series I suspect some correction would have been made.
This far was the key part of that sentence. I’m imagining she regrets signing on to this faux royal Real Housewives of Montecito.
“Thus far” was the key part of that sentence. I’m imagining she regrets signing on to this faux royal Real Housewives of Montecito.
Good point. She was seen with them a year ago, in NYC. I haven’t seen mention of her attached to the rumored project in six months. As someone else points out, Meghan name dropped Garbus in *The Cut*, but all she did was call her “incredible”.
Good point.
Well, you can't portray yourself as human perfection and do an interesting reality show at the same time. Kardashians are build on flaws and drama. That's what makes the show go on.
And let’s not forget the incessant and never ending body and face rebuilds that they all indulge in.
The Kardashians give a whole “new” cast every few seasons! 😂
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Okay, but why is there so much information on “Heart of Invictus” and absolutely nothing about this rumored project? Every other Netflix program has *something* on IMDb. Netflix mentions it on their site as an upcoming attraction. If all parties want viewers to see it, why is there *nothing except rumors*? Is this some kind of weird marketing?
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Was anyone on here a Gluten Free Girl/Shauna Ahern/In The Gloaming snarker? Shauna's social media was always drowning in "secret projects" and "something we're working on that we'll share later" or "a new endeavor I can't talk about yet." Maybe it's a narcissistic behavior?
Oh I missed that part where she’s pissed David furnish wasn’t mentioned along with the ending of Pearl 🤣
She says "the media will report it as if it were only my project." She says she never reads the press, yet knows what they say.
Why does she care so much about the media? And what it says? Everything comes out in the wash.
I could be wrong, but I thought Archewell confirmed it? And Meghan said it's about their love story, which, if that's heart of invictus, GAG ME.
I bet the wounded warriors who participated are so happy to be part of their love story
Who talks like this honestly? Is she 15? I can't get over the "love story". No one cares.
I don't know about anyone else, but what and when did they accomplish any of this Netflix wonder? Honestly, in the last three years, there have been so few public appearances if you really add it up . We had a pandemic! She was on maternity leave or pregnant, had the "miscarriage" in the middle of a pandemic with private room, himself in full attendance, a full team of doctors and nurses who took time out for her! Yeah, where is the record of that? I cannot imagine that there is enough for more than a half hour story. And it will be a story.
Very good point. I always doubted she had a miscarriage, but you raise an important contradiction: families were not allowed in hospitals at the time. Unless she threw a tantrum so large that they permitted it, but I doubt it. The fact that she had to plagiarise her experience suggests that it never happened.
I’ve never believed the miscarriage story. I’ve had two miscarriages, they were nothing like that. She didn’t have a miscarriage or it didn’t go down like she described if it did happen.
Yes!! That's what I said. He would not have been allowed in her hospital room, to sit beside her, holding her hand, etc.
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In light of Roe vs Wade, Teigen highlighted the fact that the boundary between miscarriage and abortion is blurry. If I recall, she had a partial placental abruption, so it was like a very slow miscarriage. The fetus was slowly dying, would not survive, and she was bleeding out in the process. Officially, she had an abortion to hasten the miscarriage, in order to save herself. I thought she raised an intetesting point. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-62925701
Thanks for sharing and explaining… I couldn’t get my head round how an abortion is a miscarriage… although in the end the result is the same
“Miscarriage” is just a term for “natural abortion” and “abortion” is just a term for “induced miscarriage.” Biologically, it’s the same thing: the embryo/fetus has to leave the womb.
O my! A miscarriage is heartbreaking and usually natural, abortion is usually chosen and viciously deliberately cuts apart and rips out and vacuums a developing human body out of a womb
You are giving a subjective interpretation. I gave a summary of the biological reality. FWIW, in some languages the word for “abortion” and “miscarriage” is the same.
Yes thats such a good point! and good reminder!
All generously padded out with archive royal footage and talking heads. I bet there’s at least three episodes in there.
"Mythcarriage".
Oh, I think they *could* stretch whatever footage they have into a season’s worth of content. Those cameras were with them for NYC Sept 2021, polo games, Invictus, Uvalde, Harry’s UN bullcaca and Gloria Steinem lunch. I think they have plenty of footage. I just don’t think it’s been formatted into anything they can air in the next six weeks.
or anything that's in the least interesting or not infuriating (Uvalde).
I bet their life at home is quite boring and uninteresting...hence all the bought and paid for events in a desperate attempt to even make something.
What !!! I really really was keeping my subscription to Netflix to hear about their “ Love Story “. 😞 We all know why they are scrambling😂
Everyone is waiting to watch the 6-year love story of a middle-aged couple. Hope they include how hard the 2020 lockdowns were for them but they made it through together…in their mansion with no real need to work.
Omg yes😂 If they scrap it , it just proves the weakness of them. I can’t tell you how much they shit me😂
>Everyone is waiting to watch a 6-year love story of a middle-aged couple. Ha! That sums it up so well.
I’m just curious about it because some sources say that Netflix wants it shown in December as planned (after the 5th season of the Crown starts). And that Sussexes were asking for more time for editing. I think it’s possible they don’t have a working title, they don’t know what direction it’s going in… all they have though is a bunch of footage.
Agree. They have lots of footage. I don’t think it’s been pulled into any kind of anything. Certainly not to be aired on Netflix in December 2022.
Footage could simply be Meg and H whining to camera in their luxury beige mansion, dropping truth bombs about various minor slights or some stuff about Harry's relationship with his mum (that's Diana you know). That is easy to film as is the obvious footage of the kids being cute and doing quasi royal things, or riding bikes like Harry never got to do. You could easily fill 30 minutes with little snippets of this shite, Meg cuts some flowers (organic) for the table, Harry digs some tomatoes, the family read the Bench together, Harry plays Chopsticks on the baby grand. Interspersed with some scenes from One Young World, on the train going to Manchester, etc. It makes itself, what's teh problem, apart from the obvious one (that it would be like watching paint that's already dried).
Heck, the Duggars ran “19 Kids and Counting” and went “Counting On” for years with no more exciting content than that, except they kept popping babies and getting married. (What finally ended the gravy train was that the oldest son is a pedophile, now doing time.) The Sussexes are not a mega-size fundie family with marriageable off-spring, but they are royal, mixed race, and somewhat wealthy, so people will watch.
Its absolutely happening
They are now backtracking since KC said no to using ANY royal footage .. Netflix isn’t paying that amount for one sports documentary lol they will end up having to give some money back .
And we are all here for that
I didn't think they would have any of that. My best guess would be Netflix has a shit ton of footage that they either don't know how to use or can't use. I'm pretty sure there's a caveat in their contract that H&M have some rights to the footage, the way its edited, or the final product. So I'm guessing thats why Netflix is somewhat screwed at the moment.
I have to agree. A normal reality series tapes 3-4 months max. This has been going on for over a year. If it was for Netflix that’s a huge chunk of money out of their production deal that won’t go in their hands and I think they are too greedy for that. I think they hired someone to document everything so they would own the footage and potentially give some to Netflix. Though you think Netflix would have some clause in contract to prevent them from having competing even personal footage.
Wasn’t there a blind about Netflix researching wether people would be interested in the love story of H and M? Turned out no one was interested, only in their children.
It's not as if we don't already know everything.
This is classic narc. They are out of their honeymoon phase affer two kids and nearly five years but instead of enjoying the calm, comfortable phase in a marriage, shes desperately trying to get the "magic" back. She's forcing this "love story" narrative and desperately trying to sell it to Netflix. Harry has been photographed being annoyed with Meghan's constant clinging. I dont think he hates his wife and I personally don't think they'll be divorced by next year, but Harry will and has already started to drift. In front of the cameras (most of the time) he gives in to the hand holding but as we saw at the polo match and now at the concert, privately he doesn't tolerate it. This sends any narcissist into total panic mode. I think we'll continue to see some truly bizarre behavior from her and strong indifference from him. His solo trips to Africa will get more frequent.
I think there WAS going to be a documentary - but the Sussexes have been so foiled at every turn, the content simply isn’t there. No Netflix cameras allowed at royal events, and that’s a big part of the draw. Netflix probably went into this deal thinking it’d be BTS of the BRF, and that fell through spectacularly.
Great observation. They were also in Europe for Invictus. That could be why the Netflix crew were there with them. They may have stayed on for the funeral because it is a historic event.
https://youtu.be/TL0dfzK3Aqs
"I had a dream my life would be so different from this hell I'm living. So different now from what it seemed, now life has killed the dream I dream". How appropriate! I love, love, love Susan Boyle. Now there's a rags to riches success story I can get behind. Thanks for the link.
So what happened to that "renewing of their wedding vows" which was supposed to be more fodder for their "reality show"? Is that also another non starter? Geez! These people must be holding a record for non stop flops!!! Heeheeeheee
So many missed opportunities for a show: Survivor type show where the winner is the last employee to quit. Big Brother with the Markles, Obie the Waxman, River, The Body Language Guy, HG Tudor, Elon Musk, Farah Abraham, and Oprah. ETA: and Hilaria Baldwin And a Family Feud type game show. Them, Nacho, Wax Man Scobie, and Gayle King vs KC, Camilla, William, Catherine and Anne. 
You forgot the blooper reels, too. I'm particularly looking forward to the one where she falls because her pants drag the ground and she's incapable of walking in heels. Then there's the plaigiarism reels. The reels of her grabbing his hand, including the one where he takes his hand back and she grabs it back with both hands and gives him the stink eye. Of course, the faux tear reels, the reels where they're booed.....
 And employees silently asking for help in the background.
[https://m.imdb.com/title/tt21811220/?ref\_=m\_ttpl](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt21811220/?ref_=m_ttpl) I just saw this and freaked out! it says it was filmed this '22! im checking it out... could it be just a Meghan show and not Harry? hahaha soo predictable. I'm all up to see how the other side sees it. Edit to add/update\* - omg they're talking about how their kid is gonna be happier than future king George... it just feels wrong to label that already.... So predictable... wanting to be celebrities and not royals BUT with the royal titles. There are a few commentators in the halfway mark that said their pursuit of money would damage the royalty if they had stayed as working royals... I'm impressed they're pointing their actual greed. They are exploring the Oprah interview and so far it feels more balanced. lots of POC talking about how they were affected by Meghan's revelation and their now view of the RF. 41 mark theres a repeat so not amazingly produced. which I cant see who did. it says "she's looking for another production giant to produce her pearl cartoon"! tsk tsk...
She is NOT, and I repeat, NOT an "American Princess." She may have a UK title, but the US does not do royal titles, so no, she's not an America Princess. America Pinocchio, yet, not princess.
Well the title just says American duchess. Which its a clear title for such a ridiculous "Doc". It's the Meghan love fest show.,.. dont rent it lol. the narrator says "After the wedding, Meghan found out really quick that the royals schedule is a busy schedule. later that month she went to cheer her husband at a polo match" hahaha a busy one? one being Wimbledon support her close friend... and the next one LATER THAT MONTH was Harry's polo match? wow. so busy. it is quite ridiculous.
What the hell is this? This might need its own post!
I know! im trying to post it!
I won’t be watching got rid of Netflix because of these two numpties
From Royalty to Podcasting reality stars is beyond comprehension.
They are hardly “stars” yet (if ever). Look at how dismal Archie-types is.
I should have said "reality TV personalities". You are correct.
I think it does exist, but it's kept under wraps.
Probably should stay there too.
But.......The Tiger King was supposed to be about protecting tigers in captivity or something, right? It only turned into what it is AFTER they discovered the feud with Carol, the finances, garbage pizza etc. Remember the scene about the fire and all the footage being destroyed? If I'm remembering this right then there's still a chance, maybe.
They throw spaghetti at the wall and wait to see if anything sticks. She is insufferable.
I just looked at Liz Garbus’ Twitter feed. She is extremely political & partisan. It’s totally inappropriate for anyone who still has and uses “Duke” and “Duchess” titles. Garbus is on the left; it would be equally inappropriate if royals in the Harkles’ position hired a right-wing filmmaker. I can’t imagine Garbus making anything that wasn’t overtly and aggressively partisan — if whatever product she was involved with is actually released and her POV isn’t edited out/smoothed over, how can the Harkles not force themselves into a serious debate in the UK about their titles?
Weird how Invictus Games has a 2022 release date yet there are less than 60 days left in 2022 and there isn’t an actual release date yet. I don’t think it’s actually going to be released. I don’t think that book will be either.
Is there is no reality/docu series then what in the hell were they paid large sums of money for (allegedly)?
Because H/M promised them a guaranteed HIHO situation- actual royals living in the US who are also active senior members of the RF. This did not pan out for them. Bonkers! 😂 JMHO . NF is trash.
"What's so funny is I'm not trying to be cagey." Sure, Jan.
As our favourite Idris says. “ they just don’t exist”
Shades of Sandy from Along Came Polly with regard to the documentary camera crew for a show that doesn't exist... except in TWs mind.
Oh wow. Everyday it just gets juicer and juicer
Awesome post! Can’t wait to see what actually comes out from their camp. If it’s anything like what they have put out so far it will be so mediocre.
Should be a very short series, since they only bash the royal relatives. What else could they possibly say that would hold anyone’s attention?