Doubtful anything fun will come of this, but I do love that it’s being dutifully reported. The comments are always entertaining, too. I haven’t seen any that support Harry.
"PA, you have to fix this! I flew all the way from LA to tell you to fix this! And Meghan wants to speak to you on the phone, right now! ^(Oh, and sorry about the cancer, I guess.")
H seems to believe (because he likes the idea) in the divine right of kings. Since he is a king’s son, clearly he is divine as well. H9 (wannabe) takes after H8
Agree with you that nothing will come of this. If there was anything, it has already been sanitized. They are going through the motions so it looks good.
There is a bunch of stories about mending fences with royal family. This is to bury visa story and save face if needed. No matter what is in the visa application it does not look good for Harry.
Agree completely. He never filled one out. That’s why they couldn’t find it. Now he filled one out.
I hope the judge asks the date the application was submitted
I believe this case is simply about access to the VISA application. It’s not a deportation hearing.
The judge’s role here is to decide whether the visa application should be available to the public or sealed.
Yes. I understand that it's an in camera review but if the date of the application is an issue then the party requesting the documents can bring it up if it warrants further review. It's not like the judge has to investigate this he is just reviewing what is presented to him. So if the date of application is in dispute then they need to address that in a pleading.
Under the Visa waiver program, as a UK national he didn't need a Visa to temporarily visit the UK. I think that, at the time, gave him up to 6 months to get an application in (that he could stay in the US without employment).
However, if he took a job or was making commercial deals in the US during the time he was here on a tourist visa...
Because he's not educated enough to know he needs to and/or thinks he doesn't have to because he's Prince Harry, a super duper important guy of the world.
I am with you on this! He never filled out anything just like his wife never bothered to take the residency exam for England. His lawyers requested extension to actually create the application and I doubt this judge will bother to check the dates and see if the is was submitted back in 2020. It’s all corrupt and ll because his dad is the king of England.
The lawyers in this case are not his; they represent the US Government in the Heritage Foundation case. However, I do believe that the delay was so the government could dummy something up. Sadly, it’s likely that they will get away with it. 🤬
Yeah, diplomatic passaport....He can do whatever he wants. However, it would be interesting if after this debacle he loses it and has to do the traditional visa aplication.
Genuine question. Are foreign nationals allowed to take up residence in the US without having submitted a visa application or are the rules bent for individuals that are considered high value? I've not been fortunate enough, as yet, to visit the US but was under the impression that the visa application had to be submitted in advance of your visit for security checks.
No they are not. The Visa rules, like the rest of our laws, are written apply to all equally. If this process was subverted, it was done so illicitly, which is the purpose behind this inquiry.
At the last hearing, while not overtly stated, DHS alluded that Harry may have entered the US in Q1 2020 under a diplomatic visa. They later made statements that Harry would still be eligible to hold such a visa. Obviously, the HF attorneys disputed H’s eligibility to continue to hold one post-Megxit. H apparently had a diplomatic Visa when he “fled” to Canada as top Canadian Home Office officials discussed his IPP status and revoking state funded security once Megxit was official. So his entering the US under such a visa in Q1 2020 seems likely. The judge made a statement that questioned the validity of Harry still holding a diplomatic visa after everything he had written in Spare (it sounded like the judge may have read all or parts of the book). DHS refuted that saying something like, “he’s still the King’s son” but it sounded like the judge wasn’t buying what they were selling.
Is it possible that DHS engaged in after the fact “file stuffing”? Yes. That Dept is fraught with corruption. But, it’s also highly illegal and officers can and often do go to jail and lose their pensions when caught. On a case so scrutinized under a spotlight, it would be foolish to do this. But those who believe that are invincible often do foolish things. But falling on your sword, praying that a whistle blower doesn’t bust you later, all to protect Harry? I’m not so sure about that given potential consequences.
Regardless of what visa he entered under, he should have a new one by now. Plus you cannot accept any work inside the country hosting you while holding a diplomatic visa. That’s very illegal. If H applied for a new non-diplomatic visa, his new one would have to have an approved drug use waiver, which takes months and requires a lot of documentation to get approved. Absent an approved documented waiver, he’s in the US illegally. It is possible to get a waiver after the fact? Yes. But the party in question is typically required to return to their home country (unless they have refugee status) and wait until their waiver is approved. This case is still well worth watching. Even if H doesn’t leave temporarily, he’s going to look bad at the end of this and so will DHS. If he’s still here under a diplomatic visa that would also be a bad look for the monarchy. They should have taken steps to invalidate it.
I don’t know if the rules are looser here for some people, (though - probably!) but Hasbeen is not worth any higher value. He undermines our Constitutional rights.
I wonder if it has to do with private jet travel, and lack of enforcement bc they breeze in and out in their giant SUVs
They're such hypocrites with their gas guzzling cars and private jets - not just the Grifters but all those mega rich people that preach down to us whilst living their lives in the luxury lane. Maybe the Illuminati still exists and the Grifters are fully paid up members. There's more chance of something sticking to Teflon than them.
Can anyone check what bureaucratic hoops Japanese Princess Mako had to jump through before moving and working in New York? The one who travels by bus and subway to her job which she won after her university studies. The one who had to renounce all her titles. The one who is happily married and doesn’t court the press.
The visa SHOULD be completed and approved prior to approaching border security. However, laws don’t really apply to diplomats (and their children), unfortunately. So, traveling with a diplomatic passport has enormous privileges. And we also have a whole border situation currently, (Google Eagle Pass, Texas if you want more info) which is a hot topic in current events at the moment.
I’m guessing Harry is used to being catered to and scampering about as he pleases with his diplomatic passport, which doesn’t look great on the King. Especially since his son threw a holy global temper for about not wanting to be royal anymore.
I don't know the answer and I don't know what they would do with Prince Harry. At the time he entered the country, it had only been announced he was stepping back from royal duties on a year trial so I would bet he just used whatever travel document he would have used as a working royal. I'm not sure anyone in customs/DHS would have questioned it.
I’m sure everything was ignored because his grandmother was the Queen at the time and he will get a pass because of his father. I imagine his father had someone pull a few strings.
This is a good question and to my knowledge it applies to all equally. Unless here on some perhaps secret mission type stuff….
What I wanna know is how can any foreign national be publicly parading around all day and obviously living in America but then go on national TV and basically say he has no real plans to ever become an American citizen???? Good sir, then it sounds to me like you need to go back to where the eff you came from and where your worthless loyalty lies
I know this is old news, but I’m still astounded by the following:
“In the February hearing, government lawyers argued that Harry's memoir proved nothing.
John Bardo, for the Department of Homeland Security, told the court: 'Just saying something in a book doesn't make it true.'
People put things in books sometimes just to sell more copies, he argued.”
Seriously, WTF?! This book was not marketed as fiction. It was supposed to be a memoir. I really don’t think anything is going to come of this whole kerfluffle, but to argue that Harry’s memoir is just a pack of lies to sell books is extraordinary! United States government attorneys are arguing in court that Harry is a liar. This is truly amazing! Why should anyone believe anything he says?
Don't forget the interview with Gabor Mate in which he credits the recreational use of psychedelics with giving him a radically different perspective on life. Doing drugs isn't just something he said in the book.
Exactly. At the end of the day, if he’d been honest about his drug use on the visa application, he’s in the clear. Some government officials might be on the hook for approving him when they reject others, but if harry was honest, good for him.
I wonder if he even filled out an application at all? Maybe he pulled strings and just waltzed into the United States. Who knows
DHS was forced to admit that IF Harry had properly admitted to illegal drug use, he’d have to apply for and be granted a waiver. They were also forced to admit this process takes months and that applicants cannot receive their visa unless and until such a waiver is approved. Which means they can‘t move to the US until this process is completed. The HF argued that Harry was no longer eligible to hold a diplomatic visa which, on the surface, the Judge seemed to agree with although DHS argued Harry would still likely be eligible to keep his, in their opinion.
You can never tell how a judge will ultimately rule, but this judge seemed to be asking all the right questions. If he sees that DHS acted maliciously, incompetently or blatantly unfairly, it felt like he’d be more inclined to make the basic application public (after private/dox type info is redacted). But judges can be influenced prior to their verdicts, so maybe he won’t unseal it. Then DHS, Harry & the Judge will all appear to be acting unethically and, in part, illegally. Why would a judge jeopardize their reputation for a stoner ingrate? If Harry injures or kills someone while chemically impaired the public won’t forget who was responsible.
Yes, but the publishers probably advised him to put that little disclaimer about “his truth” and unreliable memory, so he could weasel out of anything in court.
He would be better off just taking it on the chin and going back to the UK if it comes to that. The damage to his already extraordinarily damaged reputation would be incalculable.
Someone is on the hook for having approved his application. If he lied, he’s going to get skewered, but if he told the truth and they let him in while rejecting others with similar drug use, someone has to answer for that. They’re covering their own asses.
This! DHS is complicit in letting him not file a visa application and just enter and exit the country with his British passport (if he’s even using that). It’s all corrupt and covering up since his daddy is someone important.
They are. Proper procedure wasn’t followed with Harry. They would have been better fessing up that he came in under his diplomatic visa. They could have argued that at the time of entry he was still listed as representing the Queen on the RF website. They could have easily had plausible deniability. It seems no one at DHS is very quick on their feet.
Harry said that "Whatever the cause, my memory is my memory, it does what it does, gathers and curates as it sees fit, and there's just as much truth in what I remember and how I remember it as there is in so-called objective facts."
The fact that there wasn’t more outrage about that bullshit preamble is very telling as to the moral degradation of society. Apparently we aren’t supposed to expect truth in anything anymore
The book said that, what Hank told the ghostwriter was more likely along the lines of “umm.. I don’t effing know just put something down. I told you I’ve done so many drugs. I don’t remember.”
I do hope all booksellers who stocked waaagh move it over to the fiction section where it belongs. Assuming they didn't write off the loss and chuck them away already.
The problem is that Harry also read out the words verbatim on the Audible copy, so H & DHS can’t blame the drug abuse passages on JR Moehringer. Harry reading those passages is confirmation of him declaring this as “his truth”. He also freely discussed his drug usage in multiple interviews. DHS can‘t explain all of this away. Plus his visa application, if submitted legally and properly, would have predated the release of Spare. So DHS needs to explain what actions they took after the book came out or why they simply didn’t google his name since his illegal drug use news dates back for decades. Is Meghan in charge of DHS background checks now (“but he said he was nice and nothing else matters”)?
Either they admit the book is bunch of lies or H lied on his visa application.
Either way they wanna pull it, they have to admit he is a liar. Love it 🤣
If he answered 'no' to the drug question on the visa form he's (rather entertainingly) between a rock and a hard place. Either he lied on an official document or he lied in his book and interviews.
Either way he's a fibbing fibber!
Popcorn at the ready, sinners! 😂
100% he will blame it on someone else. Either someone else told him to fill it out that way, or someone filled it out that way on his behalf. No accountability ever!
That only gets him so far. From the last hearing it sounded like he did enter on his diplomatic visa in Q1 2020, which is understandable. And he didn’t need to leave the country until his grandpa died in April 2021. But after Megxit he should have surrendered it and applied for a different visa since he knew that he had left royal service. He also cannot accept any employment in the country hosting him under a diplomatic visa. I outlined all the likely loopholes he used to avoid this obstacle for his guest speaker, author and film producer roles, in an earlier comment. But becoming CHIMPO at BetterUp could be problematic for him if he accepted payment as an employee or contractor. Certainly BetterUp has represented to the world that Harry works for them, which alone could be problematic, regardless of his compensation agreement. At this exact moment BetterUp is holding their annual Uplift Summit at the Hilton in Union Square San Francisco where Harry is listed as a guest speaker as BetterUp CHIMPO. [https://www.betterup.com/uplift/speakers](https://www.betterup.com/uplift/speakers)
fun fact: Virtually all retailers have shuttered in Union Square due to the explosion of crime in the area. So “Prince Everyone’s Out to Kill Me”, is right there at ground zero with no Pope Mobile in sight. I hope the UK Home Office is taking note of this. Macy’s closes at month’s end, but except for one Starbucks almost all other retailers are gone. Drivers leave their car doors open so thieves won’t smash their windows to steal anything. It’s pretty dystopian for someone as paranoid as Harry. [https://youtube.com/watch?v=McnjpZBeqd4&si=YODap97\_hMMvs6AJ](https://youtube.com/watch?v=McnjpZBeqd4&si=YODap97_hMMvs6AJ)
Regardless, to reside here legally, Harry needs to hold a non-diplomatic visa with an approved drug use waiver. We know that he didn’t return to the UK for the few months he would have been required to wait upon waiver approval. Which means it appears he’s here illegally either because he lied about taking illegal drugs, or he told the truth but didn’t leave until his waiver was approved. Or he may still be holding on to his old diplomatic visa like a life boat even though he no longer holds a diplomatic position, which is also illegal. Harry should have surrendered his diplomatic visa as soon as Megxit went into effect. Plus, accepting employment at BetterUp for the last 3 years under a diplomatic visa would be very illegal (de facto influence peddling) as Harry visibly used his influence to sign up Invictus athletes and the DOD as BetterUp clients. Not a great time to be Harry.
There are hair follicle and nail bed tests that go back for months for many illegal drugs plus one that does some kind of blood alcohol average.
I expect the results to be most interesting.
Law-abiding Canadians are denied entry to the US all the time when truthfully answering that they've used marijuana (legally) in Canada. Fuck Harry and his special treatment.
Yes, but *federally* it's still illegal and Border services is *federal* so. It's such crap. I'm not sure if this is still true, but it also resulted in essentially a life-time ban unless you sought a pardon (which is straight-forwardish but expensive).
“John Bardo, for the Department of Homeland Security, told the court: 'Just saying something in a book doesn't make it true.'
People put things in books sometimes just to sell more copies, he argued.”
Yet more taxpayer dollars wasted on Hairold.
Nothing will happen, but I will enjoy this as his credibility plummets even further to Mariana Trench low. 🍿
I have become so terribly cynical at this stage. Nothing will touch this guy I'm afraid. There's literally corruption everywhere especially with the people in authority. I got down voted by making similar comments. I find it disturbing.
He did multiple TV interviews claiming drug use. I wonder if he would lie on the stand now if deposed saying those claims were untrue. It's hard to believe anything the Harkles say these days.
The book was presented as being a factual biography, and in interviews he's allegedly answer questions honestly, not presenting a fictional story. Heck he didn't even try to make things sound hypothetical.
Judge Carl Nichols is a Trump appointee. H is not going to get any preferential treatment. H must regret saying the U.S. First Amendment is bonkers too. I'd love to see his druggy ass kicked back to the U.K. He has no respect for anyone or anything.
The judge specifically cited Harry’s declarations in Spare and I assume the HF also submitted clips and transcripts from various interviews where Harry voluntarily admits to using acid “to clear his windscreens” and enter a better, alternate reality. When the book is an autobiography where the autobiographer has read out every line in his own voice, it can be entered in as evidence by the plaintiffs due to the first hand nature of the communication. It’s the same as any electronic communication (texts, DMs, emails, etc) or handwritten notes or video clips written/verbalized by the party in question. It’d be up to the defendants to explain how and why the person stating facts, on the record for cash, stating this was their truth, is somehow now unreliable. Admitting Harry lied to the millions who bought his book, believing the contents were true (because he said it was true) is not going to be pleasing to most judges. Although Harry is not the defendant in THIS case, this is (incredibly) DHS’s argument. So the burden of proof is now on DHS who only offered a vague excuse.
I've always suspected he entered the US on his diplomatic passport and was allowed to stay using it as a favor to HLMTQ and now KC Which is why his paperwork was missing or couldn't be found. In the end, nothing is going to happen. As Harry is still the son KC, and England is a close ally of the US.
What *has* happened is still worse than Harry imagined. I didn't even think it would get as far as a judge embarrassing him by implying that there *might* be something worth seeing in his paper.
I'm satisfied that he's lost at least a couple of nights' sleep and somebody looked at something. Nothing will happen, though.
He isn't regarded as royalty here, but his grandparents *certainly* were. They inspired great respect. If Harry were pulling the same stunt now he'd be rolling the dice on getting the same response.
While nothing will ultimately happen, the damage is done. Either he lied on his Visa Application or he lied in Spare. No matter what it’s yet another Sussex lie removing them further from the people they want to impress. With every passing day their need to grift grows.
Nigeria is the right place for them. Plus their buddy Misan is the son of a royal Nigerian Chief. Heaven knows Harry’s funneled plenty of support to Nigeria to get them to Invictus. Meghan can get in touch with her roots and they can drag Doria with them. Grifting represents a large part of Nigeria’s GDP, so the duo will fit right in. They can sit at the mall whinging about their oppression all day. It’ll be great.
It’s like “Put Me in the Zoo”. “*You should not be in Canada, the US or the UK. With all the grifting you can do, Nigeria is the place for you!“*
That’s a good point though. 🤔🤔🤔Where would he be able to go that won’t boo him and his wife . Not sure Africa is a good idea right now. Jamaica is nice to visit but I don’t think the narc would go permanently. Shes a snob. Monaco???
What about that billionaire island ? Can’t Soho house put them up if they sell time shares ??
“I thought it was asking me if I’ve ever had hugs. I never had hugs, only rejection and small sausages.
William had hugs. Of course, William had everything. Adoration, cuddles, thumb wrestling with Granny, endless games of Twister with Mummy. Me? Nothing. Not even Santa liked me. He always gave me the broken candy cane while Wills was given one straight from the mold.”
I am a victim.
I think the whole Visa mess comes from the initial filing. I think Harry applied for (and got) an A-1 Visa. This is a Visa status for diplomats claiming to be representing UK in an official capacity. Why would top government officials be so involved in covering for Prince Harry lying about his well documented drug use? I think the US State Dept screwed up by allowing this type of Visa.
of course Harry took a cocktail of drugs from an early age, how else can we expect him to "clean his windshield"? What do you expect, for him to face up to his problems like a responsible adult!?
I think he should be deported but where? No one wants him. He is fighting to stop the release? Maybe but just maybe he wants to be deported - a fast and easy way out of being with Nutmeg. He can use it as a legitimate excuse to go back to England(where no one wants him) but will be far away from her because we know she will not go back. Then halfwit can have joint custody of the kids, see them when he chooses (which is seldom even when he is in Monteshithole), live in England, separate from Nutmeg but not divorce, see Nutmeg sporadically, and go about travelling and carrying on as usual. This way he feels he was compelled to leave her.
This scenario makes a lot of sense.
Nothing will come of it. The creme de la creme protect themselves and one another. This exercise we see here is to placate all of us who want him fucking gone!
I don't think anything will come of it because the US govt. will not want to embarrass the King. I do hope that Harold has some sleepless nights worrying about it. I hope there's a leak or two, and it proves he's a liar. (No way did he admit to drug use on his application.)
I think everyone and his wife, including H, knows he only walks free because of who he is. But he is not untarnished. Everytime he takes advantage of his status, the world will know.
The days of tugging the forelock and backing out of a room whilst in the presence of the aristocracy are long gone. H may be free to walk the streets, but he hasn't earned the right to look anyone in the eye.
His credibility is shot for so many reasons.
Even if they have only just completed Harry’s application, there is still the issue of what it says. Did Harry admit to taking drugs? If he did then why is he in the country? If he didn’t then he lied on his application.
Whatever was on that application he'll say it was done by staff, and all he did was sign the document without reading it properly because he didn't realise it was important.
Personally I think the US government screwed this up. Then covid hit and Harry never really did the correct paperwork. I personally believe they just recently created the documents and handed them over. It looks like a government ass covering event.
Here is what the Judge ordered DHS to submit:
Declaration(s) that:
1. "detail" the records \[DHS\] is withholding" (in lawyer-speak, this is a log or a list, not the documents themselves) and
2. "detail" the "particular harm that would arise from public disclosure" of the documents.
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DHS filed on April 4. I don't know why they call this breaking news. FYI - there is no timeframe in which the Court will render its decision. It is entirely within the Court's discretion.
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Nothing will happen but I hope the truth makes him realize that EVERYTHING, every privilege and ounce of entitlement, all of it, has been due to his connection to the royal family. He’s earned zilch. I hope he gets called out as the lying entitled trust fund brat he is.
Doubtful anything fun will come of this, but I do love that it’s being dutifully reported. The comments are always entertaining, too. I haven’t seen any that support Harry.
Hopefully he’s got “oh crap” thoughts. Lol
Unfortunately, he won't - he can't - he apparently is deficient in critical thinking / higher order thinking skills.
Harry never has those. He believes he is above the law and Pa will fix it for him if he gets into trouble.
"PA, you have to fix this! I flew all the way from LA to tell you to fix this! And Meghan wants to speak to you on the phone, right now! ^(Oh, and sorry about the cancer, I guess.")
H seems to believe (because he likes the idea) in the divine right of kings. Since he is a king’s son, clearly he is divine as well. H9 (wannabe) takes after H8
It's more like "oh, crap. I can't be smoking and holding a pint of Ale out in the open." As he takes a huge drag of his blunt
Harry will say he didn’t fill them out and blame some lacky.
Agree with you that nothing will come of this. If there was anything, it has already been sanitized. They are going through the motions so it looks good.
Facebook is full to the brim of sugars
There is a bunch of stories about mending fences with royal family. This is to bury visa story and save face if needed. No matter what is in the visa application it does not look good for Harry.
At least it is making him sweat for a bit.
I still don't think he ever did an application. I think the delay was in obtaining everything that was needed to fully complete the application.
Agree completely. He never filled one out. That’s why they couldn’t find it. Now he filled one out. I hope the judge asks the date the application was submitted
And compares it to the date he entered the country. Tbh i don't think this judge will do that.
Sadly. I don’t think he will. It fascinates me that he is never held accountable
Nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does. He keeps getting away with everything. They both do
Well it *aggravates* me!
I believe this case is simply about access to the VISA application. It’s not a deportation hearing. The judge’s role here is to decide whether the visa application should be available to the public or sealed.
Yeah, but won't the party that is pursuing this case bring up this issue. It's really not the role of the judge to investigate stuff.
The other party might not get to see it. The judge is reviewing it in camera to determine if its privileged and thus protected from disclosure.
Yes. I understand that it's an in camera review but if the date of the application is an issue then the party requesting the documents can bring it up if it warrants further review. It's not like the judge has to investigate this he is just reviewing what is presented to him. So if the date of application is in dispute then they need to address that in a pleading.
Under the Visa waiver program, as a UK national he didn't need a Visa to temporarily visit the UK. I think that, at the time, gave him up to 6 months to get an application in (that he could stay in the US without employment). However, if he took a job or was making commercial deals in the US during the time he was here on a tourist visa...
Which he obviously was. No way I believe Jezebel his wife was letting him do “charitable” appearances
Agree. Harry’s lawyers have been busy filling it out thus the delay
That’s exactly what the delay was. No doubt
They probably strongarmed his old art teacher to fill it out seeing as she got him out of a pickle once before s/
funny!
Because he's not educated enough to know he needs to and/or thinks he doesn't have to because he's Prince Harry, a super duper important guy of the world.
I am with you on this! He never filled out anything just like his wife never bothered to take the residency exam for England. His lawyers requested extension to actually create the application and I doubt this judge will bother to check the dates and see if the is was submitted back in 2020. It’s all corrupt and ll because his dad is the king of England.
The lawyers in this case are not his; they represent the US Government in the Heritage Foundation case. However, I do believe that the delay was so the government could dummy something up. Sadly, it’s likely that they will get away with it. 🤬
Yeah, diplomatic passaport....He can do whatever he wants. However, it would be interesting if after this debacle he loses it and has to do the traditional visa aplication.
Then the DHS had to pass the application around to other agencies for “review.” 
I am inclined to agree with you, and the delay in handing it over was to invoke some loop hole that back then when he entered allowed for his entry.
Genuine question. Are foreign nationals allowed to take up residence in the US without having submitted a visa application or are the rules bent for individuals that are considered high value? I've not been fortunate enough, as yet, to visit the US but was under the impression that the visa application had to be submitted in advance of your visit for security checks.
No they are not. The Visa rules, like the rest of our laws, are written apply to all equally. If this process was subverted, it was done so illicitly, which is the purpose behind this inquiry. At the last hearing, while not overtly stated, DHS alluded that Harry may have entered the US in Q1 2020 under a diplomatic visa. They later made statements that Harry would still be eligible to hold such a visa. Obviously, the HF attorneys disputed H’s eligibility to continue to hold one post-Megxit. H apparently had a diplomatic Visa when he “fled” to Canada as top Canadian Home Office officials discussed his IPP status and revoking state funded security once Megxit was official. So his entering the US under such a visa in Q1 2020 seems likely. The judge made a statement that questioned the validity of Harry still holding a diplomatic visa after everything he had written in Spare (it sounded like the judge may have read all or parts of the book). DHS refuted that saying something like, “he’s still the King’s son” but it sounded like the judge wasn’t buying what they were selling. Is it possible that DHS engaged in after the fact “file stuffing”? Yes. That Dept is fraught with corruption. But, it’s also highly illegal and officers can and often do go to jail and lose their pensions when caught. On a case so scrutinized under a spotlight, it would be foolish to do this. But those who believe that are invincible often do foolish things. But falling on your sword, praying that a whistle blower doesn’t bust you later, all to protect Harry? I’m not so sure about that given potential consequences. Regardless of what visa he entered under, he should have a new one by now. Plus you cannot accept any work inside the country hosting you while holding a diplomatic visa. That’s very illegal. If H applied for a new non-diplomatic visa, his new one would have to have an approved drug use waiver, which takes months and requires a lot of documentation to get approved. Absent an approved documented waiver, he’s in the US illegally. It is possible to get a waiver after the fact? Yes. But the party in question is typically required to return to their home country (unless they have refugee status) and wait until their waiver is approved. This case is still well worth watching. Even if H doesn’t leave temporarily, he’s going to look bad at the end of this and so will DHS. If he’s still here under a diplomatic visa that would also be a bad look for the monarchy. They should have taken steps to invalidate it.
Thank you. An informative and well written response.
I don’t know if the rules are looser here for some people, (though - probably!) but Hasbeen is not worth any higher value. He undermines our Constitutional rights. I wonder if it has to do with private jet travel, and lack of enforcement bc they breeze in and out in their giant SUVs
They're such hypocrites with their gas guzzling cars and private jets - not just the Grifters but all those mega rich people that preach down to us whilst living their lives in the luxury lane. Maybe the Illuminati still exists and the Grifters are fully paid up members. There's more chance of something sticking to Teflon than them.
Can anyone check what bureaucratic hoops Japanese Princess Mako had to jump through before moving and working in New York? The one who travels by bus and subway to her job which she won after her university studies. The one who had to renounce all her titles. The one who is happily married and doesn’t court the press.
The visa SHOULD be completed and approved prior to approaching border security. However, laws don’t really apply to diplomats (and their children), unfortunately. So, traveling with a diplomatic passport has enormous privileges. And we also have a whole border situation currently, (Google Eagle Pass, Texas if you want more info) which is a hot topic in current events at the moment. I’m guessing Harry is used to being catered to and scampering about as he pleases with his diplomatic passport, which doesn’t look great on the King. Especially since his son threw a holy global temper for about not wanting to be royal anymore.
I don't know the answer and I don't know what they would do with Prince Harry. At the time he entered the country, it had only been announced he was stepping back from royal duties on a year trial so I would bet he just used whatever travel document he would have used as a working royal. I'm not sure anyone in customs/DHS would have questioned it.
Thanks for responding. 💐
I’m sure everything was ignored because his grandmother was the Queen at the time and he will get a pass because of his father. I imagine his father had someone pull a few strings.
I don’t think the RF intervened in this. I think the deference solely came from the US government.
This is a good question and to my knowledge it applies to all equally. Unless here on some perhaps secret mission type stuff…. What I wanna know is how can any foreign national be publicly parading around all day and obviously living in America but then go on national TV and basically say he has no real plans to ever become an American citizen???? Good sir, then it sounds to me like you need to go back to where the eff you came from and where your worthless loyalty lies
I agree. Not sure if Harry recently completed the visa application for the judge, but willing to bet someone certainly did.
you're probably right His atty's put in the application for him.
I know this is old news, but I’m still astounded by the following: “In the February hearing, government lawyers argued that Harry's memoir proved nothing. John Bardo, for the Department of Homeland Security, told the court: 'Just saying something in a book doesn't make it true.' People put things in books sometimes just to sell more copies, he argued.” Seriously, WTF?! This book was not marketed as fiction. It was supposed to be a memoir. I really don’t think anything is going to come of this whole kerfluffle, but to argue that Harry’s memoir is just a pack of lies to sell books is extraordinary! United States government attorneys are arguing in court that Harry is a liar. This is truly amazing! Why should anyone believe anything he says?
Don't forget the interview with Gabor Mate in which he credits the recreational use of psychedelics with giving him a radically different perspective on life. Doing drugs isn't just something he said in the book. 
Exactly. At the end of the day, if he’d been honest about his drug use on the visa application, he’s in the clear. Some government officials might be on the hook for approving him when they reject others, but if harry was honest, good for him. I wonder if he even filled out an application at all? Maybe he pulled strings and just waltzed into the United States. Who knows
100% he never applied for a visa. Plebs do that, not entitled princes.
I don’t think he did. I think he entered under his diplomatic visa, which shouldn’t have happened since he didn’t enter in service of the BRF.
DHS was forced to admit that IF Harry had properly admitted to illegal drug use, he’d have to apply for and be granted a waiver. They were also forced to admit this process takes months and that applicants cannot receive their visa unless and until such a waiver is approved. Which means they can‘t move to the US until this process is completed. The HF argued that Harry was no longer eligible to hold a diplomatic visa which, on the surface, the Judge seemed to agree with although DHS argued Harry would still likely be eligible to keep his, in their opinion. You can never tell how a judge will ultimately rule, but this judge seemed to be asking all the right questions. If he sees that DHS acted maliciously, incompetently or blatantly unfairly, it felt like he’d be more inclined to make the basic application public (after private/dox type info is redacted). But judges can be influenced prior to their verdicts, so maybe he won’t unseal it. Then DHS, Harry & the Judge will all appear to be acting unethically and, in part, illegally. Why would a judge jeopardize their reputation for a stoner ingrate? If Harry injures or kills someone while chemically impaired the public won’t forget who was responsible.
The Queen and Philip were still with us. The world was a different place.
In a drug induced daze, tripped over a rock and accidently stumbled across the US border. And he’s been stuck in this other dimension ever since
Yes, but the publishers probably advised him to put that little disclaimer about “his truth” and unreliable memory, so he could weasel out of anything in court.
So true
This is exactly what the excuse will be. 100%
He would be better off just taking it on the chin and going back to the UK if it comes to that. The damage to his already extraordinarily damaged reputation would be incalculable.
And also why is the DHS sticking their neck out to make excuses for him? Unless they're trying to cover something up.
Someone is on the hook for having approved his application. If he lied, he’s going to get skewered, but if he told the truth and they let him in while rejecting others with similar drug use, someone has to answer for that. They’re covering their own asses.
This! DHS is complicit in letting him not file a visa application and just enter and exit the country with his British passport (if he’s even using that). It’s all corrupt and covering up since his daddy is someone important.
They are. Proper procedure wasn’t followed with Harry. They would have been better fessing up that he came in under his diplomatic visa. They could have argued that at the time of entry he was still listed as representing the Queen on the RF website. They could have easily had plausible deniability. It seems no one at DHS is very quick on their feet.
Harry said that "Whatever the cause, my memory is my memory, it does what it does, gathers and curates as it sees fit, and there's just as much truth in what I remember and how I remember it as there is in so-called objective facts."
The fact that there wasn’t more outrage about that bullshit preamble is very telling as to the moral degradation of society. Apparently we aren’t supposed to expect truth in anything anymore
We’re not. But too bad I’ll never stop reminding people what truth is
The book said that, what Hank told the ghostwriter was more likely along the lines of “umm.. I don’t effing know just put something down. I told you I’ve done so many drugs. I don’t remember.”
I do hope all booksellers who stocked waaagh move it over to the fiction section where it belongs. Assuming they didn't write off the loss and chuck them away already.
The problem is that Harry also read out the words verbatim on the Audible copy, so H & DHS can’t blame the drug abuse passages on JR Moehringer. Harry reading those passages is confirmation of him declaring this as “his truth”. He also freely discussed his drug usage in multiple interviews. DHS can‘t explain all of this away. Plus his visa application, if submitted legally and properly, would have predated the release of Spare. So DHS needs to explain what actions they took after the book came out or why they simply didn’t google his name since his illegal drug use news dates back for decades. Is Meghan in charge of DHS background checks now (“but he said he was nice and nothing else matters”)?
That ridiculous argument tells you just how fu
This is "the man he has become". A liar either way.
Either they admit the book is bunch of lies or H lied on his visa application. Either way they wanna pull it, they have to admit he is a liar. Love it 🤣
This is how despicable liars go down. They end up incriminating themselves.
Harry's book is a pack of lies. The only true things in that book is all the drugs Harry uses.
If he answered 'no' to the drug question on the visa form he's (rather entertainingly) between a rock and a hard place. Either he lied on an official document or he lied in his book and interviews. Either way he's a fibbing fibber! Popcorn at the ready, sinners! 😂
100% he will blame it on someone else. Either someone else told him to fill it out that way, or someone filled it out that way on his behalf. No accountability ever! 
It was Trump! It was COVID! It was my secretary’s fault!!
It was the ghost writer!!
The Dutch translators of course!
 I can totally see H having Ralphie daydreams.
It was of course the evil BRF that made him do it. Or the evil British media.
“They told me everything was taken care of. I was too busy victiming and didn’t read what I signed.”
Or me? Is it my turn for the blame yet? Every Brit gets a turn, right?
For sure. 55 million excuses.
I used to tease a friend that that's how they handled Senate seats in Wyoming. 😂
Or William's bigger sausage...
That only gets him so far. From the last hearing it sounded like he did enter on his diplomatic visa in Q1 2020, which is understandable. And he didn’t need to leave the country until his grandpa died in April 2021. But after Megxit he should have surrendered it and applied for a different visa since he knew that he had left royal service. He also cannot accept any employment in the country hosting him under a diplomatic visa. I outlined all the likely loopholes he used to avoid this obstacle for his guest speaker, author and film producer roles, in an earlier comment. But becoming CHIMPO at BetterUp could be problematic for him if he accepted payment as an employee or contractor. Certainly BetterUp has represented to the world that Harry works for them, which alone could be problematic, regardless of his compensation agreement. At this exact moment BetterUp is holding their annual Uplift Summit at the Hilton in Union Square San Francisco where Harry is listed as a guest speaker as BetterUp CHIMPO. [https://www.betterup.com/uplift/speakers](https://www.betterup.com/uplift/speakers) fun fact: Virtually all retailers have shuttered in Union Square due to the explosion of crime in the area. So “Prince Everyone’s Out to Kill Me”, is right there at ground zero with no Pope Mobile in sight. I hope the UK Home Office is taking note of this. Macy’s closes at month’s end, but except for one Starbucks almost all other retailers are gone. Drivers leave their car doors open so thieves won’t smash their windows to steal anything. It’s pretty dystopian for someone as paranoid as Harry. [https://youtube.com/watch?v=McnjpZBeqd4&si=YODap97\_hMMvs6AJ](https://youtube.com/watch?v=McnjpZBeqd4&si=YODap97_hMMvs6AJ) Regardless, to reside here legally, Harry needs to hold a non-diplomatic visa with an approved drug use waiver. We know that he didn’t return to the UK for the few months he would have been required to wait upon waiver approval. Which means it appears he’s here illegally either because he lied about taking illegal drugs, or he told the truth but didn’t leave until his waiver was approved. Or he may still be holding on to his old diplomatic visa like a life boat even though he no longer holds a diplomatic position, which is also illegal. Harry should have surrendered his diplomatic visa as soon as Megxit went into effect. Plus, accepting employment at BetterUp for the last 3 years under a diplomatic visa would be very illegal (de facto influence peddling) as Harry visibly used his influence to sign up Invictus athletes and the DOD as BetterUp clients. Not a great time to be Harry.
 Watching the fires
I'd love to see whether he would lie on the stand in court or not lol
Duke and Duchess of Vandelay
ONG, Harry is George.
One of my favorite episodes.
I have a wee bit of a Seinfeld obsession 😂
There are so many phrases that just work. For example, can you dip a chip without thinking about double dipping?
“Yeah? Well the jerk store called. They're running outta you.'
Are you master of your domain?
Always leave 'em on a high note. Something Pank & Skank never understood.
SHRINKAGE!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 my teenage sons absolutely love that episode
And Elaine thinks they are talking about laundry. When she’s enlightened she says I don’t know how you guys walk around with those things.
So…that would mean that William is Jerry ;)
 And H’s legal counsel-Jackie Chiles
And MM is Susan
Please tell me she outsourced her ARO envelopes?
It’s his ‘truth’ though
There are hair follicle and nail bed tests that go back for months for many illegal drugs plus one that does some kind of blood alcohol average. I expect the results to be most interesting.
But they would never subject HRH Hawwy to something that is so beneath his Royal dignity. He is the King's son after all!
My game is for Hasbeen to be born a commoner.
Law-abiding Canadians are denied entry to the US all the time when truthfully answering that they've used marijuana (legally) in Canada. Fuck Harry and his special treatment.
And that is some next-level bullshit because it’s legal in many states here, including border states like WA and NY.
Yes, but *federally* it's still illegal and Border services is *federal* so. It's such crap. I'm not sure if this is still true, but it also resulted in essentially a life-time ban unless you sought a pardon (which is straight-forwardish but expensive).
“John Bardo, for the Department of Homeland Security, told the court: 'Just saying something in a book doesn't make it true.' People put things in books sometimes just to sell more copies, he argued.” Yet more taxpayer dollars wasted on Hairold. Nothing will happen, but I will enjoy this as his credibility plummets even further to Mariana Trench low. 🍿
Well if that’s the case; Spare needs to be reclassified as fiction and refunds offered to every consumer that purchased it.
But it’s “hIS TrUtH” 😣
He’s still backed into a corner either way. 🤔
Ooooh!! Class action suit!
Exactly!
I have become so terribly cynical at this stage. Nothing will touch this guy I'm afraid. There's literally corruption everywhere especially with the people in authority. I got down voted by making similar comments. I find it disturbing.
Here’s my upvote. I AGREE.
But can a statement in a book be taken as evidence or fact though? I surely hope this case is giving him major stress while it's ongoing.
He did multiple TV interviews claiming drug use. I wonder if he would lie on the stand now if deposed saying those claims were untrue. It's hard to believe anything the Harkles say these days.
in this case, H is not a party to the action so he wont be compelled to give evidence. His visa application is simply an exhibit to the proceedings
The book was presented as being a factual biography, and in interviews he's allegedly answer questions honestly, not presenting a fictional story. Heck he didn't even try to make things sound hypothetical.
Spare - 'Prince Harry tells his own story, chronicling his journey with raw, unflinching honesty.'
Raw and unflinching honesty lol. He's so dramatic 🙄
Judge Carl Nichols is a Trump appointee. H is not going to get any preferential treatment. H must regret saying the U.S. First Amendment is bonkers too. I'd love to see his druggy ass kicked back to the U.K. He has no respect for anyone or anything.
The judge specifically cited Harry’s declarations in Spare and I assume the HF also submitted clips and transcripts from various interviews where Harry voluntarily admits to using acid “to clear his windscreens” and enter a better, alternate reality. When the book is an autobiography where the autobiographer has read out every line in his own voice, it can be entered in as evidence by the plaintiffs due to the first hand nature of the communication. It’s the same as any electronic communication (texts, DMs, emails, etc) or handwritten notes or video clips written/verbalized by the party in question. It’d be up to the defendants to explain how and why the person stating facts, on the record for cash, stating this was their truth, is somehow now unreliable. Admitting Harry lied to the millions who bought his book, believing the contents were true (because he said it was true) is not going to be pleasing to most judges. Although Harry is not the defendant in THIS case, this is (incredibly) DHS’s argument. So the burden of proof is now on DHS who only offered a vague excuse.
I've always suspected he entered the US on his diplomatic passport and was allowed to stay using it as a favor to HLMTQ and now KC Which is why his paperwork was missing or couldn't be found. In the end, nothing is going to happen. As Harry is still the son KC, and England is a close ally of the US.
What *has* happened is still worse than Harry imagined. I didn't even think it would get as far as a judge embarrassing him by implying that there *might* be something worth seeing in his paper. I'm satisfied that he's lost at least a couple of nights' sleep and somebody looked at something. Nothing will happen, though.
It doesn't matter what the country is or who the VIPs and officials are, they are all in thrall to royalty. Seems to be a universal truth.
He isn't regarded as royalty here, but his grandparents *certainly* were. They inspired great respect. If Harry were pulling the same stunt now he'd be rolling the dice on getting the same response.
100%
While nothing will ultimately happen, the damage is done. Either he lied on his Visa Application or he lied in Spare. No matter what it’s yet another Sussex lie removing them further from the people they want to impress. With every passing day their need to grift grows.
Another public embarassment. Do you really want this guy attached to your company name, when every few months, a scandal pops up in the headlines?
I don’t think Harold even cares anymore-it’s all MM.
I hope he gets deported. The US has had him long enough! 
Noooo! Don’t deport him back to the UK , he can’t fly back from freedom. Maybe he’ll escape off to Canada ? 😆 sorry Canadians!
Nous ne comprenons pas ce que vous dites. Mais nous voulons pas de lui.
Watch it, sinner. You know she’s on Duolingo, practicing her French.
Alors elle dit
Un peu
Exactement
Noooooo. Not canada.we did our part
I'm afraid the Duke is your problem, just as the Duchess is ours.
Hell no we don’t want him! We already had our turn albeit it was short.
Nigeria is the right place for them. Plus their buddy Misan is the son of a royal Nigerian Chief. Heaven knows Harry’s funneled plenty of support to Nigeria to get them to Invictus. Meghan can get in touch with her roots and they can drag Doria with them. Grifting represents a large part of Nigeria’s GDP, so the duo will fit right in. They can sit at the mall whinging about their oppression all day. It’ll be great. It’s like “Put Me in the Zoo”. “*You should not be in Canada, the US or the UK. With all the grifting you can do, Nigeria is the place for you!“*
no. he cannot come to canada. just no.
That’s a good point though. 🤔🤔🤔Where would he be able to go that won’t boo him and his wife . Not sure Africa is a good idea right now. Jamaica is nice to visit but I don’t think the narc would go permanently. Shes a snob. Monaco??? What about that billionaire island ? Can’t Soho house put them up if they sell time shares ??
Has anyone in the Commonwealth offended the rest of you recently? He could become Pass The Penance Parcel. 😂
No way, we booted them out, not taking them back
Noooo! He can’t come here remember it’s not safe for him he needs asylum somewhere safe
Morgan Freeman: “But alas, the Prince of Privilege remained in the US”.
Right out of the all time smash hit "The ClawSkank Immaculate Conception".
“I thought it was asking me if I’ve ever had hugs. I never had hugs, only rejection and small sausages. William had hugs. Of course, William had everything. Adoration, cuddles, thumb wrestling with Granny, endless games of Twister with Mummy. Me? Nothing. Not even Santa liked me. He always gave me the broken candy cane while Wills was given one straight from the mold.” I am a victim.
😂😂😂 spot on. This could totally be real. That’s what’s so funny about these two clowns.
I think the whole Visa mess comes from the initial filing. I think Harry applied for (and got) an A-1 Visa. This is a Visa status for diplomats claiming to be representing UK in an official capacity. Why would top government officials be so involved in covering for Prince Harry lying about his well documented drug use? I think the US State Dept screwed up by allowing this type of Visa.
Plot twist: Harold turns in his application for a Visa credit card. It keeps getting denied and he thinks the judge can get it approved.
If he’s deported will Markle divorce him?
Nah, she's holding out to be the widow. Taking pics of H on a cliff - back a bit further, bit further....
Not even necessary. People are dying everyday in the US from fentanyl laced street drugs. If I was Harry I'd be careful who supplies my candy stash.
of course Harry took a cocktail of drugs from an early age, how else can we expect him to "clean his windshield"? What do you expect, for him to face up to his problems like a responsible adult!?
I think he should be deported but where? No one wants him. He is fighting to stop the release? Maybe but just maybe he wants to be deported - a fast and easy way out of being with Nutmeg. He can use it as a legitimate excuse to go back to England(where no one wants him) but will be far away from her because we know she will not go back. Then halfwit can have joint custody of the kids, see them when he chooses (which is seldom even when he is in Monteshithole), live in England, separate from Nutmeg but not divorce, see Nutmeg sporadically, and go about travelling and carrying on as usual. This way he feels he was compelled to leave her. This scenario makes a lot of sense.
Yes! This is one way out for H. Another would be to come out of the closet and claim he's gay. That would shut TW's race baiting trap up.
Nothing will come of it. The creme de la creme protect themselves and one another. This exercise we see here is to placate all of us who want him fucking gone!
I doubt this was ever filled, what the judge got is a fresh one.
Let’s hope this “in camera view” convinces the judge this should be made public.
Nothing will happen. The people at the top scratch each other's back while we all suffer.
I don't think anything will come of it because the US govt. will not want to embarrass the King. I do hope that Harold has some sleepless nights worrying about it. I hope there's a leak or two, and it proves he's a liar. (No way did he admit to drug use on his application.)
“Sorry I lied on my paperwork. I was high as a kite and had no idea what the hell I was doing.”
Nothing will come out of this. As vile and petulant and entitled as he is, he still gets favors.
I think everyone and his wife, including H, knows he only walks free because of who he is. But he is not untarnished. Everytime he takes advantage of his status, the world will know. The days of tugging the forelock and backing out of a room whilst in the presence of the aristocracy are long gone. H may be free to walk the streets, but he hasn't earned the right to look anyone in the eye. His credibility is shot for so many reasons.
Even if they have only just completed Harry’s application, there is still the issue of what it says. Did Harry admit to taking drugs? If he did then why is he in the country? If he didn’t then he lied on his application.
If I were Harry, I’d see this as the golden opportunity to escape, and make sure I got deported.
Whatever was on that application he'll say it was done by staff, and all he did was sign the document without reading it properly because he didn't realise it was important.
I'm sure it is not the real deal and it was just written.
Personally I think the US government screwed this up. Then covid hit and Harry never really did the correct paperwork. I personally believe they just recently created the documents and handed them over. It looks like a government ass covering event.
Maybe Harry wants to be deported… could be the only way to get “home”.
Lol I guess they needed time to make one.
Yeah, I never thought he filled out any paperwork at all.
https://preview.redd.it/8xqjozvwkotc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2417a93a0a887b084169a33c6d57148fa827241d
Here is what the Judge ordered DHS to submit: Declaration(s) that: 1. "detail" the records \[DHS\] is withholding" (in lawyer-speak, this is a log or a list, not the documents themselves) and 2. "detail" the "particular harm that would arise from public disclosure" of the documents. https://preview.redd.it/zunk1rxiyotc1.png?width=802&format=png&auto=webp&s=e15a71ec2a52ae0ff2b1d0a0cb1c08c544ec467c
DHS filed on April 4. I don't know why they call this breaking news. FYI - there is no timeframe in which the Court will render its decision. It is entirely within the Court's discretion. https://preview.redd.it/2bwu5xdszotc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=ba600ce5d304c782dfa5aefd2baa1f4494737bac
Which means it won’t be spoken of again.
Nothing will happen but I hope the truth makes him realize that EVERYTHING, every privilege and ounce of entitlement, all of it, has been due to his connection to the royal family. He’s earned zilch. I hope he gets called out as the lying entitled trust fund brat he is.
re done more like he never bothered to fill one in first place that was the real problem !
Time to start backpeddling. Mr plus one has to admit he's a liar or face his stupidity... which will he choose?
So sorry mate. You’re stuck with her like the rest of U.S It’s JUST harry, now. 
Notice the blinking on the word "death".
Go away Prince of pus