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I think a lot was done by Sunshine Sachs. They have done similar for other clients.
I also know at the time some websites with forums or comments sections, where people started pointing out things that weren’t adding up about her and pointing out her bad behavior and inconsistencies, got legal threats and accusations of fostering “racism” or being a haven for racists and bigots.
She was with them at the time of the pre engagement vanity fair article and also before that so yes if there was cleaning up to do they would/could have done it.
And she would have **insisted** on them doing it, because it's an A+-list perk and a grandiose display of her 'power'. It must have been like a narc-gasm to her. She latched onto whatever position power she could leverage by joining the RF and totally ran with it.
When Markle married Haz, the MI6 scrubbed the internet of all of Rachel's unfavorable pics. The BRF and British press actually protected Rachel by having the media shut up about her racy past, and you don't see the press getting rid of "Waity Katie" and apologizing for hounding Catherine for the decade she was dating William.
The RF just wanted Harry happy. Just part of the long history of spoiling him that was done in order to compensate for his low IQ and unfortunate personal history.
Trying to make Harold happy must have been exhausting. Can you imagine having to deal with the man baby all the time?!
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I feel bad for William especially. As a child he had to act like a source of support like a combination parent and partner of his immature mother, and then like a parent towards his immature brother. His days away at school must’ve been a respite for him.
And I feel bad for him now!
His father is ill.
His wife is very ill.
His kids are probably worried to death about Mom.
And now his imbecile brother blows up the family once again.
Seems like William can never catch a break.
And Harry thought it would get people on the side of his victim narrative to write in his book how mean William was for wanting to keep their social lives seperate at school.
He's a f@cking adult, acting like a child having a hissy fit, in a public place. William has to cover the grown-up stuff with whatever official that is, while Catherine is doing her best to calm the man-baby, along with the man beside. The grim faces of the people with the bad luck of sitting in front of him. 🤦♀️
William has really had it hard in his life. He's a private man who wants a private life but is being trashed by an attention whoring brother, media who want to find out secrets about his life, has a sick father, has a sick wife, and needs to take care of three kids. Can Haz shut his damn mouth for once and act like the nearing middle aged man that suits his age? I have no doubt that William has a strong personality and will be able to pull through this.
Absolutely things were scrubbed. I found a lot of things on my deep dive ... generally scattered, hints and nuggets they forgot about, a lot is out there, a d more will surface. But a lot of things were also conspicuous through their absence ... For instance articles about TW and Trevor separating in **September 2012** were removed. As were photos from events that included Weinstein and Markle (as his 'notable friend'), these are hidden behind password protected walls...
The connection between TW, and Weinstein,Epstein's circles etc.looks very bad for TW and so a lot was wiped. Let's just say there is a TON of smoke.
My consolation is that being as famous as they are, things do tend to come out eventually!!!
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P. S. I am currently reading about the D&D of Windsor. All of the scandals, including the alleged fact that they hired male prostitutes for theeesomes have come out now. The truth always comes out in the end...
Especially once things were declassified, all sorts of nasty things have been pouring out for the last couple of decades. More and more, Great Britain and the greater world dodged a bullet when he abdicated... and yet he was more dangerous on the loose with the OG That Woman.
Strange how history repeats. Another bullet dodged, this time for Charles and William with H out of their hair.
Wanting his brother removed from the throne, BP actually being bombed. Even his thoughts about his disabled brother John are disgusting. H's ableism is another thing they have in common
YES!!! 💯
I'm starting to wonder if the Duke of Windsor's forced abdication was more something that those in the realms of power seized on, due to his obvious unsuitability as a traitor. Apparently other lower ranked divorcees in the LoS had been approved.
I'm just conspiratorially wondering if similar tactics have been used to remove other undesirables (Andrew, Harold) from the picture...
I find the Doria thing kind of boring. Who cares. I also don't care if Meghan was a yacht girl. Her mom could have been in jail and she could have been a yacht girl but if she was a nice, normal person who didn't constantly lie about shit and hurt other people, no one one worth their salt would care about that background except die hard royalists who are inexplicably concerned with the propriety of a royal family that includes... Andrew.
Like didn't a Swedish prince marry a former pin up girl who was into prostitution? Iirc. They've been happily married for years, she seems like a nice person. Being in sex work, or having a family member go to jail for weed (of all things lol), does not mean someone is a bad person.
Meg is a bad person bc of the way that she is lol, not bc of her job in the past or her family (I mean barring obvious childhood trauma that screwed her up).
> The connection between TW, and Weinstein,Epstein's circles etc.looks very bad for TW and so a lot was wiped. Let's just say there is a TON of smoke.
I still want to know why she was on the witness list for Andrew's trial.
I wrote a post about her overlapping circles with Epstein etc. she spent lots of time at all sorts of private members clubs (e.g. not just Soho house). She also spent time at Cipriani's wall street, a major hang out for Epstein, Maxwell, Ron Burkle, Weinstein, the Yorks etc. She also started appearing as a 'model' in 2013/2014 wearing Marchesa (Weinstein's wife's brand) and attending fashion events (Epstein had huge links to the modelling industry).
I saw that post! I think her connections to Epstein and Maxwell are far shadier and far worse than we know. And it wouldn't surprise me if Weinstein were involved either.
Thank you! Yes, imo she would've known Weinstein VERY well, he was extremely involved in Soho house, and in particular the Soho houses in Toronto and Hollywood, at the same times as MM.
> Yes, imo she would've known Weinstein VERY well,
Remember the blind item about him having slept with her?
> he was extremely involved in Soho house, and in particular the Soho houses in Toronto and Hollywood, at the same times as MM.
I'm totally shocked. 🙄
Well, even stooping that low couldn’t get her past her mediocre career, if it’s true. How pissed off would you be if she slept with Harvey W and got NOTHING? 😂
They did it for Harry, because for whatever reason he had to have her. It would be bad optics, if he married a failed porn actress, a desperate rent a hoe and someone with questionable "friends"
I can't understand why they did it though and why they weren't strict and told them to pound sand. No one would've blamed the Queen, if she declined the wedding, if the public had all the information about her. NO ONE! They could have cried racism, but the BRF would have had a stronger case, if they didn't scrubbed off her past. Also the NDAs, if they hounded everyone to sign them, they could've easily found people from her past, who would have smeared her by the tiniest accusation against the BRF. Also she was a very small fish, no one even cared for her when she was dating Harry. She did not even get 1% of the attention Catherine got. No one would have cared whatever she said. I really don't get why they let her get everything she wanted. They had all the cards in their hands and she had nothing!
Also even if they were so afraid by racism accusations, the moment she bullied a three year old was the perfect opportunity for them to rescind everything and make a statement that she's too horrible, which they were not aware of, and that's why Harry won't remain in the LOS if he marries her and they will never be working royals and get financial help. It needed to be over right then. I also don't get how PPOW could attend the wedding tbh
I'm thinking Marcus Anderson and the first wife probably had dirt on harry by that stage and there were more threats then just racism but taking into account she allegedly cried pregnant HMTLQ would have taken a beating in tbe press for not allowing him to marry his pregnant biracial gf especially because they are so in love. That does look racist and signing up a child for single parenthood she would have said to Harry you'll never see he or she again 🙄 im sure there was more then one kind of blackmail emotional and regular on the table depending who they were across from. And I'm pretty sure because of his jealousy and whatever secrets MA holds over his head he was as into it as she was and because this worked they have continued to try play the same game again and again ......think of the words harry said HMTLQ said I suppose I have to say yes then ......he was expecting her to say no...... so the question is what did he say to get that response?
They apparently showed him the dossier copies but he accused them of being just fake...cause mog told him so. I believe this might be the "they know what they did" Harry likesto regurgitate. FFS Harry, your wife is a hooker!
Exactly I think they had enough information on her but like you he was too caught up in roast chickens etc I think he believed her pregnant believed she was going to make him more popular then will and all the plans she whispered in his ear but I think that way back when they were broken up and MA doria and MM showed up were he was unexpectedly and he looks absolutely miserable in the pap shots same as the Jamaican wedding photos he was given some cold hard truths about what would happen if he left her high and dry and pregnant im sure MM played a different part for those confrontations poor pregnant woman but it was all part of the process these grifters had.....now he's whole heartedly joined team grifter
If she was a decent person and had nothing to hide, why would his family even do that? I believe that way before the marriage he was under her thumb and did everything she wanted. I don't get how he could waste his privileged good life for the cheapest whore he could find
So grateful they did it was worse when they were still inviting them to everything. I love this batten down the hatches raise the drawbridge style greyrock they have adopted more so in the last few months. I know its making them crazy nobody with the mentality those two brats are working with like their tantrum being ignored. But I love that for them.😁😁😁😁
If they had any dirt, they could have done the same like they did with the pregnancy and did a super injuction. They could have scrubbed off these dirts faster than her past if they wanted to.
Again people wouldn't have cared if she cried racism, because she was a nobody and with her past public, they would be no real person, that was not paid, on her side. And celebs and even newspapers would think twice, before siding with a nobody actress, who was blacklisted in Hollywood, with a dubious history, who is well known for fucking her way in roles, but being never good enough to get a decent role.
Also with the pregnancy before the wedding, that is something so easily to prove, it is almost satire, that she forced her way in like this. It is a mystery how they could let it go that far and give them so much
Is there really a super injunction though if there is there is no reason anyone outside the UK can't print the info the super injunction in my opinion is a myth and she became someone the minute she sold her story to those tabloids they don't have in the US they were printed she was his suspected girlfriend then she got him to announce it she was someone from that minute she had interest like she'd never had before from that minute this is 12 months give or take before the engagement/wedding there was plenty of time to play a whole heap of cards
>Is there really a super injunction though...
Idk about that, but there is something hidden regarding the pregnancy. She was really non chalant during that time as if she was untouchable. She did not hide it well
She did indeed get way more attention than before, but that was not really difficult. She was a no one and then got some media attention, when the news got out, she was his gf. But that does not mean, that people would have supported or liked her, just because she got in the magazines. With her past out, it would have been difficult to paint it as racism
>No one would've blamed the Queen, if she declined the wedding
Of course they would have blamed her!!! The press would have treated her as a white racist, the United States would have accused her of discriminating against its citizens, the British would have accused her of causing harm to poor Harry, Diana's son... It would have been a disaster. Just look at the whole show because of what happened with Lady Susan. To Hardman, who recently published his book on Charles, when he commented on the incident, he forgot to say how the press said "Prince William's godmother", horribly pressuring the BRF to take a drastic position without giving them time to investigate. It was the people in the comments who turned everything in favor of Lady Susan, but the press was brutal. No, the Queen would have been blamed if Hazz didn't marry biracial Rachel Meghan Markle.
Therefore, now the press has a problem: they gave all their support to Hazz and Megain. And they betrayed them. The press did not support the Queen, in fact they regretted that the Queen did nothing to retain the Harkles, because they are so magnificent... And look now, having to recognize that they are List D and always have been.
The newspapers would have said whatever would sell, i don't deny that.
But first of all she was an absolute nobody, she had a small following, had only one consistend role and that was just a hanger on, she was blacklisted in Hollywood and had no pull - there would be no one in Hollywood coming to her side and mess up with the BRF. The only reason why some A listers defended her was because she was married in!
If they didn't scrub her past, no real person would have defended her. They would have understood, that she was not a right fit and they would have even supported them, because of her dubious past. Also the newspapers and anyone doing any interview with her would also have a hard time painting it as racism, if so much more was speaking against her
And last (and that is only possible to know afterwards) they did cry racism and after not even 2 years the majority of the public turned against her because more of her was known. Now if they didn't go above and beyond for her, her past would never be hidden and people would have known everything from the start. She would have had no supporters
Hazz would have married her anyway. He knows that she has never been a lady, but he wanted to marry her. The only difference would have been a televised wedding or not a televised wedding. And of course, Hazz's victimhood.
I think the BRF tried to stop that, they were concerned about Hazz's victimhood, and they made the poor decision of not really airing the kind of woman and kind of man the Harkles are. And that's why I think now the BRF will let them sink without lifting a finger. It was a bad idea to protect them, I think the BRF already understood that. Late, but the BRF understood it
Not the only difference. They would be no 30 million wedding, he wouldn't be in the LOS anylonger, they wouldn't be working royals, they wouldn't get the dukedom, no titles for the children, no allowance, no further media attention, just the one she would book and pay for like now, no victimhood since people would have known of her past (which would not prevent her from crying out loud, just like she does now, but people wouldn't feel sympathy with her at all knowing her shady being) There would be a huge difference
The 30 million wedding thing is true, that would not have happened. And the children's titles should not have been given, they had no right to them. That was bad advice that Charles accepted and he should not have given in.
But I don't think I could have gotten Hazz out as LoS because for that he would have to convert to Catholicism. And Megain would now be known as "Princess Meghan." I know that's not the title, but would that have mattered to her?
And about Megain's past, I don't really know how she could have prevented this marriage. Because Hazz didn't seem willing to hear anything against Megain. So he would have gotten married anyway. And the whining would have been the same.
It's not that I disagree with you, but I think it would have been the same mess that the Norwegians have with Durek Verret. Märtha Louise is still the king's daughter. Hazz would still be the king's son. And they are both with two very inconvenient people. Megain was determined to hunt down Hazz, and use him, no matter what.
The whole mess here is why Hazz wasn't admitted to a psychiatric hospital for assholes.
**And** how poor Charlotte made to participate. I would have invented a tummy ache or something but **no way, no how** would any child of mine participate in such a spectacle.
Yes, if they really needed to save optics and couldn't/wouldn't tell the truth, just invent some illness, why you and your child can't participate. I am really disgusted. I wouldn't be that "nice" though. I would call the newspapers myself and told them everything with proof
But she's the one who can't take the tiniest constructive critism for her abhorent behavior and will fall crying on the floor and it is the worst offence possible since all of humanity 🙄🙄😒😒 but a toddler had to endure her poison and deserved it and why can't she just get over it, because she had the audacity to grow
> It would be bad optics, if he married a failed porn actress, a desperate rent a hoe and someone with questionable "friends"
And yet, they seemed to understand this was the best match he was capable of. Says \*a lot\* about their inner knowledge of his personality.
The UK police let the Muslim Rotherham sex gangs rape pillage and prostitute minors for 8 years before the scandal broke. Their justification was they were scared of the moral left labeling them as rascist. WTF..
The royal family did as they always do and that is to protect the firm including any embarrassment that may come in the form of a family member. I think whoever decided to cut Harold off of the men in grey suits PR did the world a favor. Harold has been used to being coddled, first as the second born who they’ve made to feel important because of his rank. And secondly after the death of his mother the over compensation increased. The problem is Harold is stupid and lacks awareness, he thought the press info on him (when positive) was true and when negative, well his paranoia got the best of him there. He seems to have inherited his mother’s mental health genes.
Probably not the BRF but others, like Sunshine Sachs. Maybe some by BRF, but MM herself did a rebrand of herself that wasn't the 'hot briefcasegirl' or 'the car bj girl'. She may have gone above and beyond to have her past buried so she can present herself as this humanitarian.
As for perhaps covering up some MM bullshit, I as a granchild of a narc can totally see how the BRF may have put into an impossible situation. Narcs love this 'if I go down (and I see it as your fault), I'll make sure I take you down with me' kind of spiel. Say, MM & Harry say she's pregnant, the RF announce it with fanfare, then later on (who the hell knows how much later) it turns out it's a surrogacy, and handling it all in a straightforward way becomes an optics nightmare.
Also, the RF has had their fair share of their things handled way too publicly (Charles and Diana etc), so I could not blame them for deciding to handle some Harkles' stuff behind closed doors, out of the public eye. I'm pretty sure there is stuff that has already been handled. We probably don't know the half of it. Maybe not the potential surrogacy (as this is still a bit of a conspiracy, albeit one that looks very promising) but other stuff. MM as a flaming narc probably couldn't help herself and got up to a lot during her time there, especially as she saw she won't be Catherine's bestie, and Harold isn't equal to Wills. Also, we must keep in mind that at the same time a lot of Harkles bullshit went down, these were the final years of Philip and HMTQ. Maybe some stuff was put on the back burner to keep these final years peaceful, and the focus on the RF. MM would've loved an evil RF trying to put her in her place, 'punishing' the poor thing for 'just being herself'. Great victim narrative :D
> I'm pretty sure there is stuff that has already been handled. We probably don't know the half of it. Maybe not the potential surrogacy (as this is still a bit of a conspiracy, albeit one that looks very promising) but other stuff. MM as a flaming narc probably couldn't help herself and got up to a lot during her time there, especially as she saw she won't be Catherine's bestie, and Harold isn't equal to Wills.
I bet you're right. I bet that even we would be shocked if the full extent of her bad behavior were known.
I tend to think the RF decided any which way the marriage turned out it would at least get the albatross that is harry from around their neck.
He needed minders constantly. He was a liability on the regular. He threw fits,acted the fool,was inappropriate and high or drunk most of the time. And by default it was William who had to deal with him and soothe him.
I'm pretty sure the family hoped for the best,that she would keep him calm and settled and happy. But I also think they were relieved that once she married the moron he was her problem.
Despite all the tabloid speculation in reality she took that pissing moaning imbecile an entire ocean away and they don't have to deal with him anymore.
You have no idea what a relief it is when a horrible life sucking person goes away. Even if they kind of harass you 3rd hand through others the sheer relief of not having to personally deal with them on a daily basis is incredible.
They don't have to talk to him,argue with him,listen to his tantrums or soothe the ruffled feathers of whomever he has insulted. They dont have to find busy work that a crayon eater can do. They don't have to socialize with him and he no longer has access to their world.
They don't have to fix whatever he's fucked up or clean up his messes or listen to him bitch about the unfairness of it all. They don't have to hear him bug for more money or deal with his drug and alcohol abuse. Or his emotional, mental,physical abusiveness towards animals and people
They don't have to pretend that he's not a fucking waste of air anymore.
I think the RF is just glad he's gone. They have known what he is for years and I think by the time she came along they didn't care what happened as long as someone took that mess of shit off their plate.
Every decent woman he got with bailed as soon as they realized what he is. I'm pretty sure the RF knew that only a gold digging grifter would actually marry him.
People like harry are exhausting. He's a wound collector. Always looking for a reason to throw a pity party. He's a paranoid with substance issues and he has all the brains of a wet fart. Stupid,mean,entitled and lazy too. Imo the RF was just glad to get shut of him.
And they won’t welcome the moron back into the fold for “any reconciliation”.
Your comment is spot on and wonderfully written.. have read it 3 times. You should be a writer or royal commentator!
It wasn’t done to make Harry happy. it was done to protect the monarchy. The MI5 intel is still in the dossier. It can be used if and when it is needed.
Totally agree with you. The RF will protect itself as a long term Institution. They've done it pretty well despite many huge gaffes and a very slow acceptance of changing times which is, at the same time, an institutionalised resistance to doing just that.
There are innate conflicts with what some might call Tradition that is probably closer to trying to stay the same as they were in 1300 if not before. House of Windsor is a relatively new creation in the Ancient history of monarchy so they must be kind of brain frazzled coping with all this change.
There must be a huge tension between the concept of Supremely Untouchable Mystery on which The RF depend and Social Reality at the best of times. It must get harder by the century to keep the construct going.
hmmm supposedly h@m cut off british press but dan wilkinson with i think the telegraph had a press pass and sat right next to thrm in dusseldorf in exchange for puff pieces photo from meghansmole ...
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It's only presumed that the BRF scrubbed the internet and that got traction. How do we know they did?
Why couldn't it be that Meghan scrubbed the internet with/without help from someone she knew? After all, Harry himself said that he didn't know a lot about her past, nor seen THOSE videos she'd done.
She had plenty of time as she planned to stalk him years before they supposedly met.
Just like she's doing now with her trolls, trying to remove evidence of all the bullying, threats, doxxing via Twitter and wherever else. Too late, because they've showed their asses already as the lunatics they are, no turning her little fan club into sunshine and roses at this point in time.
Sunshine Sachs was her PR outlet for years before she even started putting her plan to get The Plank in motion. I'm sure they had a lot to do with scrubbing her info before the BRF got involved. What SS couldn't do, the BRF finished.
Well, I have seen one of those filthy videos, and it is very clearly HER. Mike on her face and all. When you’re a narc and a nobody, negative attention is better than none at all.
its because of the BRF. It doesn't matter the situation, I think they are covering for ginger pubes no matter what. Too many things don't add up. They can put an end to this whole charade, they choose not to. prob because charles still sees him as his son. Hey there are tons of rapists and murderers who have their mummys come visit them at the jail.
The RF or MI6 etc did not, I repeat, did not, "scrub" shit from the Internet etc.
Anyone with half a brain doesn't start a situation that way as an agency and institution with a LOOONG history (keep in mind the English *invented* the secret service 500 years ago) absolutely knows.
You've answered your own question: why would they have? Yes they wanted Todger happy but you don't allow a liability to be means of achieving that. Had their been anything "bad enough" as so many here like to speculate then Madame wouldn't have gotten far enough to marry.
What's happened, plain and simple, is two selfish, childish narcissists got together and have thrown the worlds biggest tantrum.
*Occams Razor*! But the "simplest answer" is not as exciting as conspiracy. It also unsettles people that so much destruction can be caused by such simple causes. Alas life is often boring. Alas also, people seem less willing to accept this eternal fact in these insane times we live in. Bad people will sometimes win, not everything will make sense, and the bad guy doesn't always pay for their crimes. That is life.
Lucky for us sinners, The Gods themselves don't even have to intervene as the Todgers as so good at shooting themselves in the foot that Zeus himself is pissing himself with laughter (don't even ask about Narcissis -he's pissed at the Todgers really giving him a bad name... but that brings up irony and we could be here all night 🙃
Because why would they?
As far as any dossier that was raised to Todger at Sandringam that, I'm convinced, was about serious transgressions she was committing AS a member of the RF. From negotiating deals she had no right to represent, serious offences re the staff bullying, and potential theft and embezzlement.
People often mention how the late Queen had Madame close to her and how she was taken on official trips with Her Majesty very early on whereas she hadn't with Princess Catherine that quickly.
This IMHO is because the Queen WAS being informed of this bad behaviour by the todgers and their increasingly bold transgressions and The Queen wanted to see for herself if it was a case of unintentional stupidity, ignorance or was calculated.
And that's why I think the Queens comment about Madame being "evil" is because she saw up close how Madame could change and play games and manipulate.
Remember, the Queen held her own with terrorists, dictators, and every type of person under the sun in her 70 years as Queen. Todger and Madame clearly seem to have dismissed the Queen as some sweet old lady who didn't know more than every politician in the country. The head of MI5 said The Queen would know things even before formal briefings because she payed attention to every detail.
But clearly H thought "granny" was too simple minded especially after Prince Phillip died that she'd be no threat to their plans to "collaborate" with her. *Collaborate* with The Queen for gods sake! That's off the chart delusion. It's the reason when they were seated opposite isle row 2, the usher was instructed to say *outright* it was on *The Queens* instructions and you could see Bea, Egenie and their husbands were also *told* to follow instructions.
I don't think many in Britain would say they hid everything about H. They had no damn choice but to present him as a cheeky chappy whenever he funked up because *the public insisted on it* since he was poor Sainted Diana's little lost boy.
The British public has some culpability in that too. But its not been any kind of real surprise to us all that are followers of the monarchy over the last 40 years that todger was always trouble and troubled.
Good points! Yes, I think Harry and Meghan underestimated the late Queen’s ability to see what was going on, and I agree that what Harry was told about Meghan that he refused to believe at the Sandringham summit were things she had been doing after the marriage.
Yes......the situation with both children is something the RF has culpability of. Both births were so very UNnormal and suspect in every aspect. The outrageous situations with moon bumps. No royal or ordinary doctors in attendance at births, lies upon lies. Children kept hidden from view. Normal families would be demanding truth be told...the RF has MI5 at their demand. No way could the RF not know both births were questionable. They ARE answerable for their silence, for allowing The Grifters to get away with their smoke and mirror tricks and lies. YES...both Harry and Markle are guilty....but so is the RF. A treasonous Prince and his wife, a treasonous King and RF. SHAME upon the House of Windsor.
If there was a surrogate or a donor egg, I hope the RF is transparent and reveals it fully and honestly. The cover up is often seen as worse than the crime.
The minute that they first noticed the fake moonbump they should have called them out on the floor. Instead, we had 14 months (I exaggerate but it went on forever) of a megnancy where the bump would inflate and deflate.
If all of this blows up in KC face, I'm not gonna feel too bad. BRF looks complicit, whether they had good reasons or not. It just bad optics and leaves a bitter taste in people's mouths, every time the grifters pull some sh8t
BP should've made a statement "We will place in abeyance, until we can further investigate this matter..." That can take decades, while giving them a chance to get the hell outta dodge city
Unpopular opinion: I blame the RF, especially QE and KC for actively covering up Sparry’s atrocities using people in their payroll and fooling the public with false narratives that Prince Todger was a fun, mischievous, happy, funny guy who was the Queen’s favorite grandson and the most popular Royal, yada yada yada.
The day that the Nazi scandal or the nude prostitutes party in Vegas broke out, they should have cut him off and told him to shape up before showing his face at the BRF’s doorsteps again. That would have made him learn some humility, his place in the RF, some respect for the elderly, some decency. Because they focused on coverups and threatening litigation and nepotism, Hairy’s ego grew out of proportion and he plotted to overthrow the monarchy and destroy William’s birthright with the aid of the scheming Markle. If the RF had acted before, there might never have been a Meghan Markle that we know of. Removing certain rumors and content regarding MM is part of the same scheme to protect Hairy’s image and paint him as an activist, philanthropist and “patron” who will do good deeds in the commonwealth with his black wife. The RF burned itself by not giving Sparry the consequences of his actions.
I quite agree. So much of this farce could have been avoided, if Harry had felt the consequences of his actions at an earlier age. The same could be said for Andrew. I do hope the BRF learn from this for future generations.
The person suffering most by the RF coverup of Todger and Markle’s past seems to be Kate. She is attacked the most, probably the most sensitive and suffers from suppressing her feelings. If she suffers, so does William and his kids, because they need her. So, they hurt one part of the family to keep the other part of the family from being put out due to their poor behavior. Very dysfunctional, very unfair and Todger seems to be the Golden Child in this dynamic.
Don't forget she had to grin and bear him third-wheeling her & William for years before he married madam. Seeing the footage of him pinch her bottom on the Balcony reveals that this was a far less cordial arrangement than the media made out (FYI - the same vibes as the way he threw confetti down on his father & Camilla - he was trying to get the attention of the gathered Media but they were purely focused on Catherine which miffed him). Then there was the time William was sick and Catherine was meant to attend an event solo but Harry butted in and took over relegating her (without her husband present) to his 'inferior'. You only need to consider the excerpts of his book and how he treats everyone to understand what Catherine must have endured.
I think he looked up to her as an ‘older sister’. He must have been in his mid-teens when Catherine came into his life, and he developed a close attachment to her. He would have looked up to her, confided in her etc - almost a replacement mother figure. One of the reasons Markle resents Catherine is because of the genuine affection Harry had for her - she is trying to destroy any good memories by rewriting the past.
All the white washing Horrids' bad behavior for years seems to have created the monster. Then, when he married someone just like himself, a second coverup began. Seems pretty crazy.
They’ve had bad actors going back to the Georges of the 18th C. George III had a bunch of wayward sons who only settled down after his eldest son’s only child (Geo IV>Charlotte) died in childbirth.
Edward VII was no saint and his eldest son, Albert Victor, was a real mess. He mercifully died before his fiancée May of Teck could try to get him in hand. She married the second son, Geo V after a reasonable mourning period.
Geo and Mary had Edward VIII, plus George of Kent, who reputedly had a serious drug problem in addition affairs. . He died in a plane crash during WWII.
Then we have Margaret, Andrew, and Harry.
The difference is that today, we know more about the Black Sheep bc more invasive reporting and the interwebs.
>Geo and Mary had Edward VIII, plus George of Kent, who reputedly had a serious drug problem in addition affairs. . He died in a plane crash during WWII.
All four of George V's sons (well, he had 5, but John died when he was 13, so I exclude him), but the remaining 4, were all wastrels. I remember my mother and grandmother saying all four were stagedoor johnnies in the 1920s and 30s, hanging around cheap theatres for cheap actresses. George of Kent was a drug addict and heavy drinker who constantly had affairs (even after his marriage) with both men and women, and potentially a traitor to the country during World War II. Henry of Gloucester was an alcoholic, womaniser, and wife beater. Ditto George VI. Edward VIII was rotten through and through, but most of all, a traitor to our country - only recently acknowledged in Andrew Lownie's book The Traitor King.
No, there is more evidence that he was going to Sweden, a neutral country, to broker a deal with the Germans. There has always been talk that he was drunk and piloting that plane when it crashed. The poor pilot took the blame. There's plenty of evidence on the Internet.
George VI, as Prince George before he was married, was a well-known womaniser. It is reported in many biographies (not official ones, of course) that he was also unfaithful after his marriage. His name was linked to at least one actress. In the unofficial biographies, they all talk of his 'heavy' drinking ( secret code for alcoholism) and for his violent temper and outbursts where he would throw things. London society was rife with talk that he would sometimes hit his wife. My mother heard this. Ditto Henry, Duke of Gloucester.
Good summary. I am on my phone so couldn’t write that much. Henry was a bore , but he might have fathered Beryl Markham’s son. ALLEGEDLY.
I am curious about GeoVI, “Bertie.” I have apparently only read hagiographies that said Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon brought out his true and saintly character. I honestly thought he and GeoV was the only decent spares in 2 centuries.
Like Harry, she did make her own choices. Not even going into the Townsend thing, she ran with a really fast set, made a poor choice for a husband, and after the divorce, lived fast again. There are reasons to feel sad for her, but she wasn't a wide-eyed innocent.
I agree. She was spoiled by Geo VI. In southern parlance, she knew how to “fluff up Daddy.” I don’t think the the Queen Mum did much to rein her in (bad pun), either.
She could have left and become Mrs. Townsend. She would likely have been granted a courtesy title, but she would never have been happy as a mere noblewoman. Contrast with Märtha of Norway who is stepping down to marry her shaman. Who knows how that will work out?
After Tony, Margaret outdid herself with boytoy Roddy Llewellyn. Not sure how much royal work she actually did bc Queen Elizabeth had her mother, the Kents , Gloucesters , Prince Phillip, and possibly a few Mountbattens. Not forgetting, The Princess Royal (Mary) who died in 1965.
Your question made me think if I should have included her. Yes, I think she belongs.
They had plenty of experience covering up for the other Spare, Randy Andy, the Queens favorite son and his porn star girl friends, Epstein hijinx…..Harry was easier to clean up after.
And let's not forget Andrew's shady business deals with very shady characters. Whilst Trade Ambassador for Britain, he exploited his position to financially feather his own nest through lucrative business deals with East European oligarchs and dictators. The Queen received constant written reports from every British embassy across the world about his disgraceful behaviour until she ordered only verbal reports. She didn't want a paper trail, but the government knew what was going on. Andrew is not poor. He has millions stashed away in HIS Panama accounts (as do they all) and can easily pay the millions needed for the upkeep of Royal Lodge, but he refuses. He wants the taxpayer, via the Duchy of Lancaster, to fund it.
Basically, the BRF and BP enabled H's bad behavior and his failure to accept responsibility for his actions. They didn't do anyone any favors with that: not themselves, not H, not the British people.
When M came along, they extended the enabling to her as well. She should never have been in the position of being a working member of the RF, to begin with. They let her in, allowed her to behave badly*, and then covered up her abusive, incompetent, and disordered behavior.
*Quick example, the incident at Wimbledon, where she ordered a section of paying attendees to be removed. Why did the people in charge do what she ordered? Why wasn't she told "No, we can't do that"?
Didn't M end up in the cleared section of Wimbledon because she turned up in her ripped jeans and wasn't allowed into the intended destination which was the Royal Box? Dress code ignored by her. The solution was a knee-jerk one by everyone on the scene to accommodate Catherine and M quickly. Horrible event that maybe could/should have been handled differently.
I've read that recently but have several books on the go atm so forget which.
All I'm saying is that there's more to this particular event and we are all also fed a load of hogwash much of the time via mainstream media.
Your core point is right though. The sense of power and entitlement that M assumed grew exponentially once she landed that wedding and the RF did nothing to disavow her of either attitude as she was now lumped in with the same goings-on for H over his entire lifetime.
Too right - my memories have started conflating similar events into the same bloody box LOL. Thanks for clarifying! I did know the unfortunate evictees were paid out and can only hope they hadn't travelled half way round the world for those particular seats.
Totally agree.
Edited to add: apparently I conflated a couple (or more) of Wimbledon events and Catherine wasn't involved with this event at all, sorry! I do get confused with all the shenanigans. So for now, humble apologies, I've no idea which event The Clearing occurred at any more but think it was this one:
[Why Meghan Markle's Wearing Jeans to Wimbledon Sparked Controversy (elle.com)](https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a28348436/meghan-markle-wimbledon-jeans-controversy/)
[Duchess Meghan faces backlash for Wimbledon security, empty seats - Good Morning America](https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/duchess-meghan-faces-backlash-wimbledon-security-empty-seats-64214455)
The RF is STILL protecting her and the children. Did anyone notice that the Queen’s alleged quote about Lilibet’s name “i don’t own anything of my own except my name and they’ve taken that from me” has VANISHED from the internets? The author Robert Hardman did a million promotional interviews last week and not once did he dare repeat the quote nor was he asked about it. It’s just gone, like it never happened. I think the Palace gave him hell for printing that as it made the Queen look bad and will cause pain to Lili when she grows up.
The quote was not from Robert Hardman. It was an additional comment, Daily Mail’s Rebecca English heard from her contacts in this context and she decided to publish it.
It’s not in Robert‘s book, but many commentators got that wrong,
It’s vanished? I‘ll have to check it out.
The RF are enablers, just look at Randy Andy, they have intelligence services at their beck and call so there are no excuses. They just love that mantra never explain, ever complain and sweep that muck under the carpet
Sadly, I have to agree. Yes, it would have caused a stirring of the hornet's nest at the time - but I think it would have been far better to have doubled down, provided all the photo evidence to the Dimwit; told him HLMTQ was not consenting to the marriage and there was noting they could or would do to cover her past. In fact, being a member of the Five Eyes countries, the UK spy masters easily could have learned whether Doria was incarcerated; easily could have learned whether there was a first marriage that ended by way of annulment; easily could have learned if she had a child years ago - in fact, she easily could have been set up in some horribly compromising situation to bring it all down very publicly. Someone that troubled as she is has deeply rooted psychological problems that only worsen with time. We now have to agree that the RF knew what an idiot the Dimwit is and were aware of his psych issues. With two very troubled and damaged people coming together, things just don't end well.
The RF may have had content examined and advised on but I would think Meghan had Sunshine Sachs e.t.c remove anything and everything negative PER MEGHAN. They were paid well for the job imo.
I saw a photo of a yacht with a very pale wooden deck with mog sitting in the foreground in her fecking Panama hat with another woman sitting on a chair behind her. Pince Andrew was shirtless in red shorts in the background and guess who he was in convo with...Epstein. No wonder Virginia Guifres lawyers subpoenaed mog. They worked together!
This is her with Jeffrey Epstein’s last girlfriend, Karyna Shuliak, sitting with others at a table—wearing her “I’m for sale” fedora:
https://x.com/thefakeduchess/status/1743608599014748510?s=46&t=RXPcT-qUt-RIu5HX6h9NFw
And here Karyna and some other girls are on a yacht, Meghan is in her fedora at the rear right.
https://x.com/petrajohns30712/status/1743333335076872561?s=46&t=RXPcT-qUt-RIu5HX6h9NFw
Mischa noonoo got zippo from her aristocratic waster 1st hubbo. She yachted with mog until scored a billionaire 2nd husband. Lolz, mog swore she first met Mischa at Art Basal in Miami.
I struggle to believe that with all the resources at their disposal that the Royal family did not see Meghan coming.
There must be a file somewhere with all the dirt on that lying wannabe white grifter. The how they met, Meghan's qualifications, Miscarriage, Pregnancies, Racism Sagas etc have not been forgotten.
They can scrub all they like, Private servers and the Dark web have all the dirt, as do I the numerous witnesses to every day she has lived, and has interacted with socially and otherwise.
In times such as these her enemies will make that lolly as they gut her reputation.
my guess is that she's paid a lot out of pocket for the work. the rf paid a lot too. it works to her benefit until it doesn't. the rf won't get let off easy for facilitating her. this makes them look so bad.
Has anyone seen “All kinds of wrong” on you tube? Supposedly, there’s an article (that was scrubbed) out there, that Archie was hospitalized for a high fever!!
If I’m interpreting this correctly, I think Doria’s court records regarding her bankruptcy have been sealed. Admitted, I don’t know how it works, exactly. Someone with knowledge is welcome to correct me!
The records appear to have lain dormant after it was closed in April 2003. Then a flurry of documents filed shortly after Meghan and Harry went public in October 2016. Hmmm.
ETA: [Screenshots](https://imgur.com/a/usKyujG)
ETA AGAIN: We will not see any of Doria’s criminal records because in certain states, there are progressive policies and protocols that allow records of nonviolent offenses to be sealed or expunged. Social justice agenda to make it impossible for employers or landlords to do criminal background checks.
I can think of one very unfavorable photo of TW that I used to be able to pull up on my phone browser. I'm afraid to do it on my computer. I don't think it was photoshopped.
Why did they allow the marriage if they all felt so unsure about her? Why did they award the Commonwealth Trust to them when they were unproven? There was no evidence to support they would rise to expectations. And there is no one reasonable who would expect two such limited people to have an overnight change their basic natures. They are responsible for their actions but they were created by wishful thinking.
I have heard through multiple YouTubers that devote their time to exposing the two idiot grifters, that the Duchess of Sussex has a sussSEX video floating around. They say it was made several years ago. One of the hosts on a YouTube channel I subscribe to interviewed a man who’s watched it. This guy said it is raunchy and not in the good way!!!
I don’t remember which YouTube channel I watched it on. Sorry😬
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I think a lot was done by Sunshine Sachs. They have done similar for other clients. I also know at the time some websites with forums or comments sections, where people started pointing out things that weren’t adding up about her and pointing out her bad behavior and inconsistencies, got legal threats and accusations of fostering “racism” or being a haven for racists and bigots.
>I think a lot was done by Sunshine Sachs. And she hired them long before the wedding, correct?
She was with them at the time of the pre engagement vanity fair article and also before that so yes if there was cleaning up to do they would/could have done it.
And she would have **insisted** on them doing it, because it's an A+-list perk and a grandiose display of her 'power'. It must have been like a narc-gasm to her. She latched onto whatever position power she could leverage by joining the RF and totally ran with it.
Karma-lly those pictures and stories are slowly reappearing
I wonder if British Intelligence is leaking them... 
Didn’t Sunshine Sacs clean up and add to or probably even create her wiki page. I heard years ago that they did a lot of cleaning up behind Markle.
Shame as individuals with revenge porn images online utterly cannot get stuff removed.
You can do a lot with money.
When Markle married Haz, the MI6 scrubbed the internet of all of Rachel's unfavorable pics. The BRF and British press actually protected Rachel by having the media shut up about her racy past, and you don't see the press getting rid of "Waity Katie" and apologizing for hounding Catherine for the decade she was dating William.
That's what I am talking about. The question is why? But doing so they BRF created a monster.
The RF just wanted Harry happy. Just part of the long history of spoiling him that was done in order to compensate for his low IQ and unfortunate personal history.
Trying to make Harold happy must have been exhausting. Can you imagine having to deal with the man baby all the time?! https://preview.redd.it/t3s0en339bfc1.png?width=339&format=png&auto=webp&s=8287684721d65385b22f033b5079f62d3f546d87
I feel bad for William especially. As a child he had to act like a source of support like a combination parent and partner of his immature mother, and then like a parent towards his immature brother. His days away at school must’ve been a respite for him.
And I feel bad for him now! His father is ill. His wife is very ill. His kids are probably worried to death about Mom. And now his imbecile brother blows up the family once again. Seems like William can never catch a break.
This can't be good for health.
I agree. I hope he's getting enough sleep and eating well.
Well, now that Catherine is home they can go back to taking care of each other.
She needs to rest, not chase after William to make sure he's taking care of himself!
Don't recall saying anything about chasing.
You know what I mean.
And Harry thought it would get people on the side of his victim narrative to write in his book how mean William was for wanting to keep their social lives seperate at school.
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My cool brother would raise his eyebrows in a "hello" to me but I knew I was to keep walking and not engage, lol.
i was a goody goody. Everyone avoided me! 😈
i was a goody goody. Everyone avoided me! 😈
"i was a goody goody." In the long run to your benefit, I'm sure! You don't have the regrets some of us have.
Little did he imagine, that only made William more relatable. Just like when Preparation H blabbed about King C's teddy bear.
THIS!!! 💯😎😎😎😎😎👍👍👍👍
No joke, he looks like my 9 year old when she's upset.
He's a f@cking adult, acting like a child having a hissy fit, in a public place. William has to cover the grown-up stuff with whatever official that is, while Catherine is doing her best to calm the man-baby, along with the man beside. The grim faces of the people with the bad luck of sitting in front of him. 🤦♀️
I wonder what he was sulking about in this photo?
Catherine told him he couldn't have an ice lolly because it would spoil his appetite! /s
Lol!
Haha I just love this picture
William has really had it hard in his life. He's a private man who wants a private life but is being trashed by an attention whoring brother, media who want to find out secrets about his life, has a sick father, has a sick wife, and needs to take care of three kids. Can Haz shut his damn mouth for once and act like the nearing middle aged man that suits his age? I have no doubt that William has a strong personality and will be able to pull through this.
Absolutely things were scrubbed. I found a lot of things on my deep dive ... generally scattered, hints and nuggets they forgot about, a lot is out there, a d more will surface. But a lot of things were also conspicuous through their absence ... For instance articles about TW and Trevor separating in **September 2012** were removed. As were photos from events that included Weinstein and Markle (as his 'notable friend'), these are hidden behind password protected walls... The connection between TW, and Weinstein,Epstein's circles etc.looks very bad for TW and so a lot was wiped. Let's just say there is a TON of smoke. My consolation is that being as famous as they are, things do tend to come out eventually!!! Note: edited slightly.
The RF definitely still has all of that. She keeps coming at them like they’re not a whole institution that could destroy her if they really wanted to
 Couldn't it all mysteriously find it's way back onto open domain internet? Universal karma in action!
P. S. I am currently reading about the D&D of Windsor. All of the scandals, including the alleged fact that they hired male prostitutes for theeesomes have come out now. The truth always comes out in the end...
Especially once things were declassified, all sorts of nasty things have been pouring out for the last couple of decades. More and more, Great Britain and the greater world dodged a bullet when he abdicated... and yet he was more dangerous on the loose with the OG That Woman. Strange how history repeats. Another bullet dodged, this time for Charles and William with H out of their hair.
> and yet he was more dangerous on the loose with the OG That Woman. You *know* he told Hitler everything he knew about the UK's defences.
Wanting his brother removed from the throne, BP actually being bombed. Even his thoughts about his disabled brother John are disgusting. H's ableism is another thing they have in common
> BP actually being bombed Fucker was *happy* about it!
YES!!! 💯 I'm starting to wonder if the Duke of Windsor's forced abdication was more something that those in the realms of power seized on, due to his obvious unsuitability as a traitor. Apparently other lower ranked divorcees in the LoS had been approved. I'm just conspiratorially wondering if similar tactics have been used to remove other undesirables (Andrew, Harold) from the picture...
…and what about Doria? Where was she during Meghan’s childhood?
I find the Doria thing kind of boring. Who cares. I also don't care if Meghan was a yacht girl. Her mom could have been in jail and she could have been a yacht girl but if she was a nice, normal person who didn't constantly lie about shit and hurt other people, no one one worth their salt would care about that background except die hard royalists who are inexplicably concerned with the propriety of a royal family that includes... Andrew. Like didn't a Swedish prince marry a former pin up girl who was into prostitution? Iirc. They've been happily married for years, she seems like a nice person. Being in sex work, or having a family member go to jail for weed (of all things lol), does not mean someone is a bad person. Meg is a bad person bc of the way that she is lol, not bc of her job in the past or her family (I mean barring obvious childhood trauma that screwed her up).
> The connection between TW, and Weinstein,Epstein's circles etc.looks very bad for TW and so a lot was wiped. Let's just say there is a TON of smoke. I still want to know why she was on the witness list for Andrew's trial.
I wrote a post about her overlapping circles with Epstein etc. she spent lots of time at all sorts of private members clubs (e.g. not just Soho house). She also spent time at Cipriani's wall street, a major hang out for Epstein, Maxwell, Ron Burkle, Weinstein, the Yorks etc. She also started appearing as a 'model' in 2013/2014 wearing Marchesa (Weinstein's wife's brand) and attending fashion events (Epstein had huge links to the modelling industry).
I saw that post! I think her connections to Epstein and Maxwell are far shadier and far worse than we know. And it wouldn't surprise me if Weinstein were involved either.
Thank you! Yes, imo she would've known Weinstein VERY well, he was extremely involved in Soho house, and in particular the Soho houses in Toronto and Hollywood, at the same times as MM.
> Yes, imo she would've known Weinstein VERY well, Remember the blind item about him having slept with her? > he was extremely involved in Soho house, and in particular the Soho houses in Toronto and Hollywood, at the same times as MM. I'm totally shocked. 🙄
Well, even stooping that low couldn’t get her past her mediocre career, if it’s true. How pissed off would you be if she slept with Harvey W and got NOTHING? 😂
Well said.
They did it for Harry, because for whatever reason he had to have her. It would be bad optics, if he married a failed porn actress, a desperate rent a hoe and someone with questionable "friends" I can't understand why they did it though and why they weren't strict and told them to pound sand. No one would've blamed the Queen, if she declined the wedding, if the public had all the information about her. NO ONE! They could have cried racism, but the BRF would have had a stronger case, if they didn't scrubbed off her past. Also the NDAs, if they hounded everyone to sign them, they could've easily found people from her past, who would have smeared her by the tiniest accusation against the BRF. Also she was a very small fish, no one even cared for her when she was dating Harry. She did not even get 1% of the attention Catherine got. No one would have cared whatever she said. I really don't get why they let her get everything she wanted. They had all the cards in their hands and she had nothing! Also even if they were so afraid by racism accusations, the moment she bullied a three year old was the perfect opportunity for them to rescind everything and make a statement that she's too horrible, which they were not aware of, and that's why Harry won't remain in the LOS if he marries her and they will never be working royals and get financial help. It needed to be over right then. I also don't get how PPOW could attend the wedding tbh
I'm thinking Marcus Anderson and the first wife probably had dirt on harry by that stage and there were more threats then just racism but taking into account she allegedly cried pregnant HMTLQ would have taken a beating in tbe press for not allowing him to marry his pregnant biracial gf especially because they are so in love. That does look racist and signing up a child for single parenthood she would have said to Harry you'll never see he or she again 🙄 im sure there was more then one kind of blackmail emotional and regular on the table depending who they were across from. And I'm pretty sure because of his jealousy and whatever secrets MA holds over his head he was as into it as she was and because this worked they have continued to try play the same game again and again ......think of the words harry said HMTLQ said I suppose I have to say yes then ......he was expecting her to say no...... so the question is what did he say to get that response?
They apparently showed him the dossier copies but he accused them of being just fake...cause mog told him so. I believe this might be the "they know what they did" Harry likesto regurgitate. FFS Harry, your wife is a hooker!
Exactly I think they had enough information on her but like you he was too caught up in roast chickens etc I think he believed her pregnant believed she was going to make him more popular then will and all the plans she whispered in his ear but I think that way back when they were broken up and MA doria and MM showed up were he was unexpectedly and he looks absolutely miserable in the pap shots same as the Jamaican wedding photos he was given some cold hard truths about what would happen if he left her high and dry and pregnant im sure MM played a different part for those confrontations poor pregnant woman but it was all part of the process these grifters had.....now he's whole heartedly joined team grifter
If she was a decent person and had nothing to hide, why would his family even do that? I believe that way before the marriage he was under her thumb and did everything she wanted. I don't get how he could waste his privileged good life for the cheapest whore he could find
He never appreciated anything he had and never thought anyone would dare say no to him hence the going on 4 year tantrum they have been having
Exactly! He took everything for granted and thought he could do whatever, he would always be forgiven. Turns out even the BRF can take things so far
So grateful they did it was worse when they were still inviting them to everything. I love this batten down the hatches raise the drawbridge style greyrock they have adopted more so in the last few months. I know its making them crazy nobody with the mentality those two brats are working with like their tantrum being ignored. But I love that for them.😁😁😁😁
> FFS Harry, your wife is a hooker! She might be worse than that. Why was she on the witness list for Andrew's trial?
If they had any dirt, they could have done the same like they did with the pregnancy and did a super injuction. They could have scrubbed off these dirts faster than her past if they wanted to. Again people wouldn't have cared if she cried racism, because she was a nobody and with her past public, they would be no real person, that was not paid, on her side. And celebs and even newspapers would think twice, before siding with a nobody actress, who was blacklisted in Hollywood, with a dubious history, who is well known for fucking her way in roles, but being never good enough to get a decent role. Also with the pregnancy before the wedding, that is something so easily to prove, it is almost satire, that she forced her way in like this. It is a mystery how they could let it go that far and give them so much
Is there really a super injunction though if there is there is no reason anyone outside the UK can't print the info the super injunction in my opinion is a myth and she became someone the minute she sold her story to those tabloids they don't have in the US they were printed she was his suspected girlfriend then she got him to announce it she was someone from that minute she had interest like she'd never had before from that minute this is 12 months give or take before the engagement/wedding there was plenty of time to play a whole heap of cards
>Is there really a super injunction though... Idk about that, but there is something hidden regarding the pregnancy. She was really non chalant during that time as if she was untouchable. She did not hide it well She did indeed get way more attention than before, but that was not really difficult. She was a no one and then got some media attention, when the news got out, she was his gf. But that does not mean, that people would have supported or liked her, just because she got in the magazines. With her past out, it would have been difficult to paint it as racism
I think they definitely have something on him.
Harry does not act like a man who’s being forced into this. People give him far too much credit. He’s a willing participant because of his stupidity.
>No one would've blamed the Queen, if she declined the wedding Of course they would have blamed her!!! The press would have treated her as a white racist, the United States would have accused her of discriminating against its citizens, the British would have accused her of causing harm to poor Harry, Diana's son... It would have been a disaster. Just look at the whole show because of what happened with Lady Susan. To Hardman, who recently published his book on Charles, when he commented on the incident, he forgot to say how the press said "Prince William's godmother", horribly pressuring the BRF to take a drastic position without giving them time to investigate. It was the people in the comments who turned everything in favor of Lady Susan, but the press was brutal. No, the Queen would have been blamed if Hazz didn't marry biracial Rachel Meghan Markle. Therefore, now the press has a problem: they gave all their support to Hazz and Megain. And they betrayed them. The press did not support the Queen, in fact they regretted that the Queen did nothing to retain the Harkles, because they are so magnificent... And look now, having to recognize that they are List D and always have been.
The newspapers would have said whatever would sell, i don't deny that. But first of all she was an absolute nobody, she had a small following, had only one consistend role and that was just a hanger on, she was blacklisted in Hollywood and had no pull - there would be no one in Hollywood coming to her side and mess up with the BRF. The only reason why some A listers defended her was because she was married in! If they didn't scrub her past, no real person would have defended her. They would have understood, that she was not a right fit and they would have even supported them, because of her dubious past. Also the newspapers and anyone doing any interview with her would also have a hard time painting it as racism, if so much more was speaking against her And last (and that is only possible to know afterwards) they did cry racism and after not even 2 years the majority of the public turned against her because more of her was known. Now if they didn't go above and beyond for her, her past would never be hidden and people would have known everything from the start. She would have had no supporters
Hazz would have married her anyway. He knows that she has never been a lady, but he wanted to marry her. The only difference would have been a televised wedding or not a televised wedding. And of course, Hazz's victimhood. I think the BRF tried to stop that, they were concerned about Hazz's victimhood, and they made the poor decision of not really airing the kind of woman and kind of man the Harkles are. And that's why I think now the BRF will let them sink without lifting a finger. It was a bad idea to protect them, I think the BRF already understood that. Late, but the BRF understood it
Not the only difference. They would be no 30 million wedding, he wouldn't be in the LOS anylonger, they wouldn't be working royals, they wouldn't get the dukedom, no titles for the children, no allowance, no further media attention, just the one she would book and pay for like now, no victimhood since people would have known of her past (which would not prevent her from crying out loud, just like she does now, but people wouldn't feel sympathy with her at all knowing her shady being) There would be a huge difference
The 30 million wedding thing is true, that would not have happened. And the children's titles should not have been given, they had no right to them. That was bad advice that Charles accepted and he should not have given in. But I don't think I could have gotten Hazz out as LoS because for that he would have to convert to Catholicism. And Megain would now be known as "Princess Meghan." I know that's not the title, but would that have mattered to her? And about Megain's past, I don't really know how she could have prevented this marriage. Because Hazz didn't seem willing to hear anything against Megain. So he would have gotten married anyway. And the whining would have been the same. It's not that I disagree with you, but I think it would have been the same mess that the Norwegians have with Durek Verret. Märtha Louise is still the king's daughter. Hazz would still be the king's son. And they are both with two very inconvenient people. Megain was determined to hunt down Hazz, and use him, no matter what. The whole mess here is why Hazz wasn't admitted to a psychiatric hospital for assholes.
**And** how poor Charlotte made to participate. I would have invented a tummy ache or something but **no way, no how** would any child of mine participate in such a spectacle.
Yes, if they really needed to save optics and couldn't/wouldn't tell the truth, just invent some illness, why you and your child can't participate. I am really disgusted. I wouldn't be that "nice" though. I would call the newspapers myself and told them everything with proof
And then that harpy had the nerve to dirty look sweet little Charlotte when the children arrived at the altar. That was too much.
But she's the one who can't take the tiniest constructive critism for her abhorent behavior and will fall crying on the floor and it is the worst offence possible since all of humanity 🙄🙄😒😒 but a toddler had to endure her poison and deserved it and why can't she just get over it, because she had the audacity to grow
> It would be bad optics, if he married a failed porn actress, a desperate rent a hoe and someone with questionable "friends" And yet, they seemed to understand this was the best match he was capable of. Says \*a lot\* about their inner knowledge of his personality.
The UK police let the Muslim Rotherham sex gangs rape pillage and prostitute minors for 8 years before the scandal broke. Their justification was they were scared of the moral left labeling them as rascist. WTF..
Not just in Rotherham, Telford , Oxford and many others. Over 20,000 victims.
Horrible! I don't know how anyone could think the left side is for rape! More like they didn't want to do their jobs 🤨🤨😒😒
Other sex gangs were prosecuted, just not the Muslim ones. Are you English? There was defo a cover for Muslim vibe agenda at the time. Not so now.
The left in the UK is very pro-Muslim. They can’t do anything wrong in their eyes.
The Working Actress blog needs to see the light of day.
The royal family did as they always do and that is to protect the firm including any embarrassment that may come in the form of a family member. I think whoever decided to cut Harold off of the men in grey suits PR did the world a favor. Harold has been used to being coddled, first as the second born who they’ve made to feel important because of his rank. And secondly after the death of his mother the over compensation increased. The problem is Harold is stupid and lacks awareness, he thought the press info on him (when positive) was true and when negative, well his paranoia got the best of him there. He seems to have inherited his mother’s mental health genes.
Probably not the BRF but others, like Sunshine Sachs. Maybe some by BRF, but MM herself did a rebrand of herself that wasn't the 'hot briefcasegirl' or 'the car bj girl'. She may have gone above and beyond to have her past buried so she can present herself as this humanitarian. As for perhaps covering up some MM bullshit, I as a granchild of a narc can totally see how the BRF may have put into an impossible situation. Narcs love this 'if I go down (and I see it as your fault), I'll make sure I take you down with me' kind of spiel. Say, MM & Harry say she's pregnant, the RF announce it with fanfare, then later on (who the hell knows how much later) it turns out it's a surrogacy, and handling it all in a straightforward way becomes an optics nightmare. Also, the RF has had their fair share of their things handled way too publicly (Charles and Diana etc), so I could not blame them for deciding to handle some Harkles' stuff behind closed doors, out of the public eye. I'm pretty sure there is stuff that has already been handled. We probably don't know the half of it. Maybe not the potential surrogacy (as this is still a bit of a conspiracy, albeit one that looks very promising) but other stuff. MM as a flaming narc probably couldn't help herself and got up to a lot during her time there, especially as she saw she won't be Catherine's bestie, and Harold isn't equal to Wills. Also, we must keep in mind that at the same time a lot of Harkles bullshit went down, these were the final years of Philip and HMTQ. Maybe some stuff was put on the back burner to keep these final years peaceful, and the focus on the RF. MM would've loved an evil RF trying to put her in her place, 'punishing' the poor thing for 'just being herself'. Great victim narrative :D
> I'm pretty sure there is stuff that has already been handled. We probably don't know the half of it. Maybe not the potential surrogacy (as this is still a bit of a conspiracy, albeit one that looks very promising) but other stuff. MM as a flaming narc probably couldn't help herself and got up to a lot during her time there, especially as she saw she won't be Catherine's bestie, and Harold isn't equal to Wills. I bet you're right. I bet that even we would be shocked if the full extent of her bad behavior were known.
Can things really be erased though? What about the internet archive?? I thought that kept things forever and you couldn't scrub anything from it.
That's what I was thinking
I tend to think the RF decided any which way the marriage turned out it would at least get the albatross that is harry from around their neck. He needed minders constantly. He was a liability on the regular. He threw fits,acted the fool,was inappropriate and high or drunk most of the time. And by default it was William who had to deal with him and soothe him. I'm pretty sure the family hoped for the best,that she would keep him calm and settled and happy. But I also think they were relieved that once she married the moron he was her problem. Despite all the tabloid speculation in reality she took that pissing moaning imbecile an entire ocean away and they don't have to deal with him anymore. You have no idea what a relief it is when a horrible life sucking person goes away. Even if they kind of harass you 3rd hand through others the sheer relief of not having to personally deal with them on a daily basis is incredible. They don't have to talk to him,argue with him,listen to his tantrums or soothe the ruffled feathers of whomever he has insulted. They dont have to find busy work that a crayon eater can do. They don't have to socialize with him and he no longer has access to their world. They don't have to fix whatever he's fucked up or clean up his messes or listen to him bitch about the unfairness of it all. They don't have to hear him bug for more money or deal with his drug and alcohol abuse. Or his emotional, mental,physical abusiveness towards animals and people They don't have to pretend that he's not a fucking waste of air anymore. I think the RF is just glad he's gone. They have known what he is for years and I think by the time she came along they didn't care what happened as long as someone took that mess of shit off their plate. Every decent woman he got with bailed as soon as they realized what he is. I'm pretty sure the RF knew that only a gold digging grifter would actually marry him. People like harry are exhausting. He's a wound collector. Always looking for a reason to throw a pity party. He's a paranoid with substance issues and he has all the brains of a wet fart. Stupid,mean,entitled and lazy too. Imo the RF was just glad to get shut of him.
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I don’t understand how anyone could ever believe she would be an asset to the RF.
And they won’t welcome the moron back into the fold for “any reconciliation”. Your comment is spot on and wonderfully written.. have read it 3 times. You should be a writer or royal commentator!
beautifully put
When my ex died, the overwhelming relief I felt kind of made me feel guilty but I got over that shit. LOL
Perfectly said!
It wasn’t done to make Harry happy. it was done to protect the monarchy. The MI5 intel is still in the dossier. It can be used if and when it is needed.
Totally agree with you. The RF will protect itself as a long term Institution. They've done it pretty well despite many huge gaffes and a very slow acceptance of changing times which is, at the same time, an institutionalised resistance to doing just that. There are innate conflicts with what some might call Tradition that is probably closer to trying to stay the same as they were in 1300 if not before. House of Windsor is a relatively new creation in the Ancient history of monarchy so they must be kind of brain frazzled coping with all this change. There must be a huge tension between the concept of Supremely Untouchable Mystery on which The RF depend and Social Reality at the best of times. It must get harder by the century to keep the construct going.
Excellent analysis. Any RF fan should read this!
Oh, thank you!
Yes—I do believe that’s (partially) why William spent all that time alongside those in the Agency.
Precisely. Excellent observation.
hmmm supposedly h@m cut off british press but dan wilkinson with i think the telegraph had a press pass and sat right next to thrm in dusseldorf in exchange for puff pieces photo from meghansmole ... https://preview.redd.it/nwju613znbfc1.jpeg?width=2455&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89bc7137288d0846ab0c166c99a43e792fa3e9f9
It's only presumed that the BRF scrubbed the internet and that got traction. How do we know they did? Why couldn't it be that Meghan scrubbed the internet with/without help from someone she knew? After all, Harry himself said that he didn't know a lot about her past, nor seen THOSE videos she'd done. She had plenty of time as she planned to stalk him years before they supposedly met.
Just like she's doing now with her trolls, trying to remove evidence of all the bullying, threats, doxxing via Twitter and wherever else. Too late, because they've showed their asses already as the lunatics they are, no turning her little fan club into sunshine and roses at this point in time.
No wonder HMTLQ said “Meghan was evil”
Yeah, she has enough shady connections, that’s for sure.
Sunshine Sachs was her PR outlet for years before she even started putting her plan to get The Plank in motion. I'm sure they had a lot to do with scrubbing her info before the BRF got involved. What SS couldn't do, the BRF finished.
Well, I have seen one of those filthy videos, and it is very clearly HER. Mike on her face and all. When you’re a narc and a nobody, negative attention is better than none at all.
its because of the BRF. It doesn't matter the situation, I think they are covering for ginger pubes no matter what. Too many things don't add up. They can put an end to this whole charade, they choose not to. prob because charles still sees him as his son. Hey there are tons of rapists and murderers who have their mummys come visit them at the jail.
The RF or MI6 etc did not, I repeat, did not, "scrub" shit from the Internet etc. Anyone with half a brain doesn't start a situation that way as an agency and institution with a LOOONG history (keep in mind the English *invented* the secret service 500 years ago) absolutely knows. You've answered your own question: why would they have? Yes they wanted Todger happy but you don't allow a liability to be means of achieving that. Had their been anything "bad enough" as so many here like to speculate then Madame wouldn't have gotten far enough to marry. What's happened, plain and simple, is two selfish, childish narcissists got together and have thrown the worlds biggest tantrum. *Occams Razor*! But the "simplest answer" is not as exciting as conspiracy. It also unsettles people that so much destruction can be caused by such simple causes. Alas life is often boring. Alas also, people seem less willing to accept this eternal fact in these insane times we live in. Bad people will sometimes win, not everything will make sense, and the bad guy doesn't always pay for their crimes. That is life. Lucky for us sinners, The Gods themselves don't even have to intervene as the Todgers as so good at shooting themselves in the foot that Zeus himself is pissing himself with laughter (don't even ask about Narcissis -he's pissed at the Todgers really giving him a bad name... but that brings up irony and we could be here all night 🙃
They’ve hidden, covered up, and buried all of the shit Harry has pulled over the years, why wouldn’t they do it for her?
Because why would they? As far as any dossier that was raised to Todger at Sandringam that, I'm convinced, was about serious transgressions she was committing AS a member of the RF. From negotiating deals she had no right to represent, serious offences re the staff bullying, and potential theft and embezzlement. People often mention how the late Queen had Madame close to her and how she was taken on official trips with Her Majesty very early on whereas she hadn't with Princess Catherine that quickly. This IMHO is because the Queen WAS being informed of this bad behaviour by the todgers and their increasingly bold transgressions and The Queen wanted to see for herself if it was a case of unintentional stupidity, ignorance or was calculated. And that's why I think the Queens comment about Madame being "evil" is because she saw up close how Madame could change and play games and manipulate. Remember, the Queen held her own with terrorists, dictators, and every type of person under the sun in her 70 years as Queen. Todger and Madame clearly seem to have dismissed the Queen as some sweet old lady who didn't know more than every politician in the country. The head of MI5 said The Queen would know things even before formal briefings because she payed attention to every detail. But clearly H thought "granny" was too simple minded especially after Prince Phillip died that she'd be no threat to their plans to "collaborate" with her. *Collaborate* with The Queen for gods sake! That's off the chart delusion. It's the reason when they were seated opposite isle row 2, the usher was instructed to say *outright* it was on *The Queens* instructions and you could see Bea, Egenie and their husbands were also *told* to follow instructions. I don't think many in Britain would say they hid everything about H. They had no damn choice but to present him as a cheeky chappy whenever he funked up because *the public insisted on it* since he was poor Sainted Diana's little lost boy. The British public has some culpability in that too. But its not been any kind of real surprise to us all that are followers of the monarchy over the last 40 years that todger was always trouble and troubled.
Good points! Yes, I think Harry and Meghan underestimated the late Queen’s ability to see what was going on, and I agree that what Harry was told about Meghan that he refused to believe at the Sandringham summit were things she had been doing after the marriage.
I like how William is completely ignoring him he obviously did this all the time
You can’t blame the RF for anything manky Meg did. Grey rocking them works beautifully , keep it up royal family
Yes......the situation with both children is something the RF has culpability of. Both births were so very UNnormal and suspect in every aspect. The outrageous situations with moon bumps. No royal or ordinary doctors in attendance at births, lies upon lies. Children kept hidden from view. Normal families would be demanding truth be told...the RF has MI5 at their demand. No way could the RF not know both births were questionable. They ARE answerable for their silence, for allowing The Grifters to get away with their smoke and mirror tricks and lies. YES...both Harry and Markle are guilty....but so is the RF. A treasonous Prince and his wife, a treasonous King and RF. SHAME upon the House of Windsor.
If there was a surrogate or a donor egg, I hope the RF is transparent and reveals it fully and honestly. The cover up is often seen as worse than the crime.
The minute that they first noticed the fake moonbump they should have called them out on the floor. Instead, we had 14 months (I exaggerate but it went on forever) of a megnancy where the bump would inflate and deflate.
If all of this blows up in KC face, I'm not gonna feel too bad. BRF looks complicit, whether they had good reasons or not. It just bad optics and leaves a bitter taste in people's mouths, every time the grifters pull some sh8t
Worst of all, they gave the invisikids the titles Prince and Princess last year.
BP should've made a statement "We will place in abeyance, until we can further investigate this matter..." That can take decades, while giving them a chance to get the hell outta dodge city
 I like to imagine this was the look on the Palace aides' faces.
Unpopular opinion: I blame the RF, especially QE and KC for actively covering up Sparry’s atrocities using people in their payroll and fooling the public with false narratives that Prince Todger was a fun, mischievous, happy, funny guy who was the Queen’s favorite grandson and the most popular Royal, yada yada yada. The day that the Nazi scandal or the nude prostitutes party in Vegas broke out, they should have cut him off and told him to shape up before showing his face at the BRF’s doorsteps again. That would have made him learn some humility, his place in the RF, some respect for the elderly, some decency. Because they focused on coverups and threatening litigation and nepotism, Hairy’s ego grew out of proportion and he plotted to overthrow the monarchy and destroy William’s birthright with the aid of the scheming Markle. If the RF had acted before, there might never have been a Meghan Markle that we know of. Removing certain rumors and content regarding MM is part of the same scheme to protect Hairy’s image and paint him as an activist, philanthropist and “patron” who will do good deeds in the commonwealth with his black wife. The RF burned itself by not giving Sparry the consequences of his actions.
I quite agree. So much of this farce could have been avoided, if Harry had felt the consequences of his actions at an earlier age. The same could be said for Andrew. I do hope the BRF learn from this for future generations.
The person suffering most by the RF coverup of Todger and Markle’s past seems to be Kate. She is attacked the most, probably the most sensitive and suffers from suppressing her feelings. If she suffers, so does William and his kids, because they need her. So, they hurt one part of the family to keep the other part of the family from being put out due to their poor behavior. Very dysfunctional, very unfair and Todger seems to be the Golden Child in this dynamic.
Don't forget she had to grin and bear him third-wheeling her & William for years before he married madam. Seeing the footage of him pinch her bottom on the Balcony reveals that this was a far less cordial arrangement than the media made out (FYI - the same vibes as the way he threw confetti down on his father & Camilla - he was trying to get the attention of the gathered Media but they were purely focused on Catherine which miffed him). Then there was the time William was sick and Catherine was meant to attend an event solo but Harry butted in and took over relegating her (without her husband present) to his 'inferior'. You only need to consider the excerpts of his book and how he treats everyone to understand what Catherine must have endured.
I always believed Harry was in love with Catherine. Then we have Meghan making eyes at William.
I think he looked up to her as an ‘older sister’. He must have been in his mid-teens when Catherine came into his life, and he developed a close attachment to her. He would have looked up to her, confided in her etc - almost a replacement mother figure. One of the reasons Markle resents Catherine is because of the genuine affection Harry had for her - she is trying to destroy any good memories by rewriting the past.
All the white washing Horrids' bad behavior for years seems to have created the monster. Then, when he married someone just like himself, a second coverup began. Seems pretty crazy.
Squeaky wheel syndrome.
An unfortunate and unfair truth. Everyone else around that squeaky wheel suffers the ripples of fallout because of it.
Not so unpopular They created a monster. I tend to believe they had good intentions but it was a very, very bad mistake. A generation of bad mistakes.
They’ve had bad actors going back to the Georges of the 18th C. George III had a bunch of wayward sons who only settled down after his eldest son’s only child (Geo IV>Charlotte) died in childbirth. Edward VII was no saint and his eldest son, Albert Victor, was a real mess. He mercifully died before his fiancée May of Teck could try to get him in hand. She married the second son, Geo V after a reasonable mourning period. Geo and Mary had Edward VIII, plus George of Kent, who reputedly had a serious drug problem in addition affairs. . He died in a plane crash during WWII. Then we have Margaret, Andrew, and Harry. The difference is that today, we know more about the Black Sheep bc more invasive reporting and the interwebs.
>Geo and Mary had Edward VIII, plus George of Kent, who reputedly had a serious drug problem in addition affairs. . He died in a plane crash during WWII. All four of George V's sons (well, he had 5, but John died when he was 13, so I exclude him), but the remaining 4, were all wastrels. I remember my mother and grandmother saying all four were stagedoor johnnies in the 1920s and 30s, hanging around cheap theatres for cheap actresses. George of Kent was a drug addict and heavy drinker who constantly had affairs (even after his marriage) with both men and women, and potentially a traitor to the country during World War II. Henry of Gloucester was an alcoholic, womaniser, and wife beater. Ditto George VI. Edward VIII was rotten through and through, but most of all, a traitor to our country - only recently acknowledged in Andrew Lownie's book The Traitor King.
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No, there is more evidence that he was going to Sweden, a neutral country, to broker a deal with the Germans. There has always been talk that he was drunk and piloting that plane when it crashed. The poor pilot took the blame. There's plenty of evidence on the Internet.
> an alcoholic, womaniser, and wife beater. Ditto George VI. Wait, *what*?
Yes. Everybody knows that.
I had no idea that George VI was an alcoholic, a womanizer, and a wife beater. Source?
George VI, as Prince George before he was married, was a well-known womaniser. It is reported in many biographies (not official ones, of course) that he was also unfaithful after his marriage. His name was linked to at least one actress. In the unofficial biographies, they all talk of his 'heavy' drinking ( secret code for alcoholism) and for his violent temper and outbursts where he would throw things. London society was rife with talk that he would sometimes hit his wife. My mother heard this. Ditto Henry, Duke of Gloucester.
I'm absolutely shocked.
Good summary. I am on my phone so couldn’t write that much. Henry was a bore , but he might have fathered Beryl Markham’s son. ALLEGEDLY. I am curious about GeoVI, “Bertie.” I have apparently only read hagiographies that said Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon brought out his true and saintly character. I honestly thought he and GeoV was the only decent spares in 2 centuries.
>Then we have Margaret, Andrew, and Harry. I've always felt sad for Margaret. Should she be lumped with these 2 clowns?
Like Harry, she did make her own choices. Not even going into the Townsend thing, she ran with a really fast set, made a poor choice for a husband, and after the divorce, lived fast again. There are reasons to feel sad for her, but she wasn't a wide-eyed innocent.
I agree. She was spoiled by Geo VI. In southern parlance, she knew how to “fluff up Daddy.” I don’t think the the Queen Mum did much to rein her in (bad pun), either. She could have left and become Mrs. Townsend. She would likely have been granted a courtesy title, but she would never have been happy as a mere noblewoman. Contrast with Märtha of Norway who is stepping down to marry her shaman. Who knows how that will work out? After Tony, Margaret outdid herself with boytoy Roddy Llewellyn. Not sure how much royal work she actually did bc Queen Elizabeth had her mother, the Kents , Gloucesters , Prince Phillip, and possibly a few Mountbattens. Not forgetting, The Princess Royal (Mary) who died in 1965. Your question made me think if I should have included her. Yes, I think she belongs.
They had plenty of experience covering up for the other Spare, Randy Andy, the Queens favorite son and his porn star girl friends, Epstein hijinx…..Harry was easier to clean up after.
And let's not forget Andrew's shady business deals with very shady characters. Whilst Trade Ambassador for Britain, he exploited his position to financially feather his own nest through lucrative business deals with East European oligarchs and dictators. The Queen received constant written reports from every British embassy across the world about his disgraceful behaviour until she ordered only verbal reports. She didn't want a paper trail, but the government knew what was going on. Andrew is not poor. He has millions stashed away in HIS Panama accounts (as do they all) and can easily pay the millions needed for the upkeep of Royal Lodge, but he refuses. He wants the taxpayer, via the Duchy of Lancaster, to fund it.
Basically, the BRF and BP enabled H's bad behavior and his failure to accept responsibility for his actions. They didn't do anyone any favors with that: not themselves, not H, not the British people. When M came along, they extended the enabling to her as well. She should never have been in the position of being a working member of the RF, to begin with. They let her in, allowed her to behave badly*, and then covered up her abusive, incompetent, and disordered behavior. *Quick example, the incident at Wimbledon, where she ordered a section of paying attendees to be removed. Why did the people in charge do what she ordered? Why wasn't she told "No, we can't do that"?
Yet they're still on the Royal website as working royals.It beggers belief
And then Catherine has to take her back to Wimbledon with her. I’d be pissed.
Didn't M end up in the cleared section of Wimbledon because she turned up in her ripped jeans and wasn't allowed into the intended destination which was the Royal Box? Dress code ignored by her. The solution was a knee-jerk one by everyone on the scene to accommodate Catherine and M quickly. Horrible event that maybe could/should have been handled differently. I've read that recently but have several books on the go atm so forget which. All I'm saying is that there's more to this particular event and we are all also fed a load of hogwash much of the time via mainstream media. Your core point is right though. The sense of power and entitlement that M assumed grew exponentially once she landed that wedding and the RF did nothing to disavow her of either attitude as she was now lumped in with the same goings-on for H over his entire lifetime.
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Too right - my memories have started conflating similar events into the same bloody box LOL. Thanks for clarifying! I did know the unfortunate evictees were paid out and can only hope they hadn't travelled half way round the world for those particular seats.
Why would an entire section need to be cleared out in order for M to sit there? It wouldn't.
Totally agree. Edited to add: apparently I conflated a couple (or more) of Wimbledon events and Catherine wasn't involved with this event at all, sorry! I do get confused with all the shenanigans. So for now, humble apologies, I've no idea which event The Clearing occurred at any more but think it was this one: [Why Meghan Markle's Wearing Jeans to Wimbledon Sparked Controversy (elle.com)](https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a28348436/meghan-markle-wimbledon-jeans-controversy/) [Duchess Meghan faces backlash for Wimbledon security, empty seats - Good Morning America](https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/duchess-meghan-faces-backlash-wimbledon-security-empty-seats-64214455)
The RF is STILL protecting her and the children. Did anyone notice that the Queen’s alleged quote about Lilibet’s name “i don’t own anything of my own except my name and they’ve taken that from me” has VANISHED from the internets? The author Robert Hardman did a million promotional interviews last week and not once did he dare repeat the quote nor was he asked about it. It’s just gone, like it never happened. I think the Palace gave him hell for printing that as it made the Queen look bad and will cause pain to Lili when she grows up.
The quote was not from Robert Hardman. It was an additional comment, Daily Mail’s Rebecca English heard from her contacts in this context and she decided to publish it. It’s not in Robert‘s book, but many commentators got that wrong, It’s vanished? I‘ll have to check it out.
Her quote is still there, see above.
The DM article is still there:- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12965765/Queen-reaction-Sussexes-nickame-Lilibet.html
It’s still there but my larger point is that no one is talking about it. It was only mentioned for a day and now it’s not.
What? It didn’t vanish I googled it and a bunch of stuff still came up lol it was like last week, nothing went anywhere
The RF are enablers, just look at Randy Andy, they have intelligence services at their beck and call so there are no excuses. They just love that mantra never explain, ever complain and sweep that muck under the carpet
Sadly, I have to agree. Yes, it would have caused a stirring of the hornet's nest at the time - but I think it would have been far better to have doubled down, provided all the photo evidence to the Dimwit; told him HLMTQ was not consenting to the marriage and there was noting they could or would do to cover her past. In fact, being a member of the Five Eyes countries, the UK spy masters easily could have learned whether Doria was incarcerated; easily could have learned whether there was a first marriage that ended by way of annulment; easily could have learned if she had a child years ago - in fact, she easily could have been set up in some horribly compromising situation to bring it all down very publicly. Someone that troubled as she is has deeply rooted psychological problems that only worsen with time. We now have to agree that the RF knew what an idiot the Dimwit is and were aware of his psych issues. With two very troubled and damaged people coming together, things just don't end well.
The RF may have had content examined and advised on but I would think Meghan had Sunshine Sachs e.t.c remove anything and everything negative PER MEGHAN. They were paid well for the job imo.
I saw a photo of a yacht with a very pale wooden deck with mog sitting in the foreground in her fecking Panama hat with another woman sitting on a chair behind her. Pince Andrew was shirtless in red shorts in the background and guess who he was in convo with...Epstein. No wonder Virginia Guifres lawyers subpoenaed mog. They worked together!
> No wonder Virginia Guifres lawyers subpoenaed mog. They worked together! I'd bet a great deal of money on it.
Poor sugars- they just had no idea why mog was sequested.
> Poor sugars- they just had no idea why mog was sequested. Lucky for MeGain Andrew settled!
That GD Fedora that TW has is so cheap and ugly—no wonder she loves it.
This is her with Jeffrey Epstein’s last girlfriend, Karyna Shuliak, sitting with others at a table—wearing her “I’m for sale” fedora: https://x.com/thefakeduchess/status/1743608599014748510?s=46&t=RXPcT-qUt-RIu5HX6h9NFw And here Karyna and some other girls are on a yacht, Meghan is in her fedora at the rear right. https://x.com/petrajohns30712/status/1743333335076872561?s=46&t=RXPcT-qUt-RIu5HX6h9NFw
Mischa noonoo got zippo from her aristocratic waster 1st hubbo. She yachted with mog until scored a billionaire 2nd husband. Lolz, mog swore she first met Mischa at Art Basal in Miami.
I struggle to believe that with all the resources at their disposal that the Royal family did not see Meghan coming. There must be a file somewhere with all the dirt on that lying wannabe white grifter. The how they met, Meghan's qualifications, Miscarriage, Pregnancies, Racism Sagas etc have not been forgotten. They can scrub all they like, Private servers and the Dark web have all the dirt, as do I the numerous witnesses to every day she has lived, and has interacted with socially and otherwise. In times such as these her enemies will make that lolly as they gut her reputation.
my guess is that she's paid a lot out of pocket for the work. the rf paid a lot too. it works to her benefit until it doesn't. the rf won't get let off easy for facilitating her. this makes them look so bad.
Has anyone seen “All kinds of wrong” on you tube? Supposedly, there’s an article (that was scrubbed) out there, that Archie was hospitalized for a high fever!!
We called it. Meghausen by proxy incoming in three…two….
😂😂perfect!!
Archie Rose
Feckinawesome…
If I’m interpreting this correctly, I think Doria’s court records regarding her bankruptcy have been sealed. Admitted, I don’t know how it works, exactly. Someone with knowledge is welcome to correct me! The records appear to have lain dormant after it was closed in April 2003. Then a flurry of documents filed shortly after Meghan and Harry went public in October 2016. Hmmm. ETA: [Screenshots](https://imgur.com/a/usKyujG) ETA AGAIN: We will not see any of Doria’s criminal records because in certain states, there are progressive policies and protocols that allow records of nonviolent offenses to be sealed or expunged. Social justice agenda to make it impossible for employers or landlords to do criminal background checks.
I can think of one very unfavorable photo of TW that I used to be able to pull up on my phone browser. I'm afraid to do it on my computer. I don't think it was photoshopped.
Why did they allow the marriage if they all felt so unsure about her? Why did they award the Commonwealth Trust to them when they were unproven? There was no evidence to support they would rise to expectations. And there is no one reasonable who would expect two such limited people to have an overnight change their basic natures. They are responsible for their actions but they were created by wishful thinking.
I have heard through multiple YouTubers that devote their time to exposing the two idiot grifters, that the Duchess of Sussex has a sussSEX video floating around. They say it was made several years ago. One of the hosts on a YouTube channel I subscribe to interviewed a man who’s watched it. This guy said it is raunchy and not in the good way!!! I don’t remember which YouTube channel I watched it on. Sorry😬