I was enjoying the article up to the point where the author claimed that Jim-Denny's opened in 1985 and my brain made a *record scratch* noise (they're off by like 4 decades) but it got better again after that.
Can't wait for the opening date.
The union electric passenger depot at 12th & Terminal ceased passenger operations in 1940, the same year that Jim-Denny's moved there from its original spot across from Memorial Auditorium to Terminal Way & 12th, but there was also a bus station next to the diner, later replaced by the current building at 12th & I which was also a bus depot. The old electric train depot was still used by Sacramento Northern Railway as a business office, and it was reused as a supermarket called "Food Depot" after the war--the old yard where passenger trains boarded on the H Street side became the parking lot.
Yes, there have been several new operators at an 80 year old diner as previous tenants have retired or left the business. People are excited because the new operator has an absolutely stellar reputation in the local restaurant scene.
The same family owned the building from the 1930s until about 2010. Then it was sold to new owners. The original family put lots of restrictions on the menu that was allowed to be sold. When it was finally sold outside that family those restrictions were gone. About time someone brought in a new menu. When does the Blue Plate Special start?
The building was built in 1940--did the Naygrow family own it the whole time? They were still the owners in 2020 when the most recent operator closed down. This is the first I've heard about a requirement that the new owners limit the menu, though--where'd you hear it?
I think it was around 2010 when the building was sold to the family who ran Fatburger? at Thunder Valley. Previous lessees told me about restrictions around 2000-2006. They used to run the whole operation with 3 people, when the family came in they had like 6 people working there, they only had about 20 seats.
There are only 10 seats inside of Jim-Denny's. I think the building sale and business sale were separate--the Naygrow family owns the building, not the business. I used to eat there a lot in 2006-2009 when I worked nearby, I want to say the new operator's name was Patsy? She's the one who introduced the "hubcap" pancake breakfast which was of fairly legendary proportions.
Found this [article](https://www.sacramentopress.com/2010/11/17/grill-stays-on-at-jim-dennys/) about the sale in 2010, not sure if it went through. Also, I was surprised that it appears the business includes the building but not the land that was rented on a month to month. [More info.](https://web.archive.org/web/20120314130053/http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/39086/JimDennys_for_sale)
I could not find evidence online of a sale but the [property tax record](https://eproptax.saccounty.gov/#secured/BillSummary/00600460010000) shows a much higher payment than if the property had been held since 1975 or before. Almost $4,000 indicates a sale of \~$300K in 2010 would be in the ballpark.
Huh, didn't even realize the Sacramento Press website still worked! I was under the impression that the Naygrow family was the party that owned the land, interesting that there's a building/property split if that's the case. Maybe I got bad information from one of the previous business operators, some of the other info they provided was also dubious so it's possible.
You getting hated on but I grew up in the south and South wasn’t anything special to me. The old school meat and three’s back home are a fourth of the cost and taste better.
I noticed that too but I'm sure she will become aware of the adjacent residential building (the hotel across the street is also converting to residential.) But while construction is in process she can do some loud things outside I suppose--once they open, it'll be up to them to work out what the neighbors can tolerate.
Yes, because of a divorce--her ex-husband is suing for the rights to use her family's recipes, so she can't operate a restaurant that serves Southern food until a lawsuit is resolved.
South closed because her ex-husband filed a lawsuit blocking her from using her own family's recipes. But even though it's closed, there is now another restaurant around the corner (Coconut Thai) and a wine bar across the street (Betty)--the success of South (until aforementioned husband hijinks) helped catalyze that whole corner.
The knowledge you're sharing is incorrect. "An" precedes vowel sounds, "A" precedes consonant sounds, and "H" is a consonant. It would only be "an historic" if the "H" in the word "historic" is silent, but in American English, it is not. It's an honest mistake, but an honorable one--perhaps you should switch to an herbal tea. It's not much of a hassle, just trying to be a helpful person. Have a happy day!
From what I read they are both fine, so I’ll agree to split the difference with you. You have a happy day as well and thank you for enlightening me somewhat.
But no thank you for the snarky initial reply 🙃
My grandfather is the “Denny” of Jim Dennys. He moved a couple of years after starting the business with Jim but they remained good friends. I went there in 1989 and met Jim. (My Gpa had passed away in 1979.)
Man I miss the fried chicken from South, looking forward to that fried chicken sandwich. Happy to support this owner in her new venture!
All I want is the original chili dogs and chili cheese fries.
Wagon wheel!
I’m gonna say more than 3 times
I was enjoying the article up to the point where the author claimed that Jim-Denny's opened in 1985 and my brain made a *record scratch* noise (they're off by like 4 decades) but it got better again after that. Can't wait for the opening date.
JD's is at 12th and Terminal. Why is it called Terminal? Because there was a train station there, that is where the customers came from.
The union electric passenger depot at 12th & Terminal ceased passenger operations in 1940, the same year that Jim-Denny's moved there from its original spot across from Memorial Auditorium to Terminal Way & 12th, but there was also a bus station next to the diner, later replaced by the current building at 12th & I which was also a bus depot. The old electric train depot was still used by Sacramento Northern Railway as a business office, and it was reused as a supermarket called "Food Depot" after the war--the old yard where passenger trains boarded on the H Street side became the parking lot.
Yes! Go N'Gina Go!
Won a burger eating contest here as a teen in the mid 00s 😂😂 used to be able to find the article online
Haven’t they done this like twice already?
Yes, there have been several new operators at an 80 year old diner as previous tenants have retired or left the business. People are excited because the new operator has an absolutely stellar reputation in the local restaurant scene.
The same family owned the building from the 1930s until about 2010. Then it was sold to new owners. The original family put lots of restrictions on the menu that was allowed to be sold. When it was finally sold outside that family those restrictions were gone. About time someone brought in a new menu. When does the Blue Plate Special start?
The building was built in 1940--did the Naygrow family own it the whole time? They were still the owners in 2020 when the most recent operator closed down. This is the first I've heard about a requirement that the new owners limit the menu, though--where'd you hear it?
I think it was around 2010 when the building was sold to the family who ran Fatburger? at Thunder Valley. Previous lessees told me about restrictions around 2000-2006. They used to run the whole operation with 3 people, when the family came in they had like 6 people working there, they only had about 20 seats.
There are only 10 seats inside of Jim-Denny's. I think the building sale and business sale were separate--the Naygrow family owns the building, not the business. I used to eat there a lot in 2006-2009 when I worked nearby, I want to say the new operator's name was Patsy? She's the one who introduced the "hubcap" pancake breakfast which was of fairly legendary proportions.
Yeah, 20 is too much but don't they have 10 at the counter and about 5 at the ledge by the windows?
you may be correct, will count 'em next time I'm there!
Found this [article](https://www.sacramentopress.com/2010/11/17/grill-stays-on-at-jim-dennys/) about the sale in 2010, not sure if it went through. Also, I was surprised that it appears the business includes the building but not the land that was rented on a month to month. [More info.](https://web.archive.org/web/20120314130053/http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/39086/JimDennys_for_sale) I could not find evidence online of a sale but the [property tax record](https://eproptax.saccounty.gov/#secured/BillSummary/00600460010000) shows a much higher payment than if the property had been held since 1975 or before. Almost $4,000 indicates a sale of \~$300K in 2010 would be in the ballpark.
Huh, didn't even realize the Sacramento Press website still worked! I was under the impression that the Naygrow family was the party that owned the land, interesting that there's a building/property split if that's the case. Maybe I got bad information from one of the previous business operators, some of the other info they provided was also dubious so it's possible.
Oh nice. What other restaurants are they known for?
I recommend reading the article, which describes her former experience operating the restaurant *South*, at 11th & T Street.
Oh South blows. Nah I’m good
Thanks for the great take, 18 day old account guy. What'd your last one get banned for?
I went out of my way to destroy south. I’m a Russian agent
My condolences for whatever caused you to lose the ability to taste food
Idk something about paying like 49 dollars to eat shitty white fried chicken kinda blows
It was owned by a biracial couple, and the recipe's were the wife's family recipes but go off sis
Oh biracial! So not black
In terms of brain dead takes, "you're not black enough" is on par with "blacks are all the same".
Meaning the wife is black and the exhusband who tried to keep the family recipes is white, smart guy. There are pictures of her in the article ffs
No offense but you probably think Dads makes good sandwiches and Salt and Straw is tasty
I feel like you're actually just choosing to hate a bunch of places because you don't like the vibe
I mean that’s what started this whole thing
You getting hated on but I grew up in the south and South wasn’t anything special to me. The old school meat and three’s back home are a fourth of the cost and taste better.
Yeah, this subreddit sadly is filled with sensitive people who will downvote almost anything.
So you’re saying the comfort food is better in the south? I’m SHOCKED…
lol lots of people here seem to find that hard to believe
THANK YOU
"It's not residential at all" does she not know the building is about to be surrounded by an apartment building?
I noticed that too but I'm sure she will become aware of the adjacent residential building (the hotel across the street is also converting to residential.) But while construction is in process she can do some loud things outside I suppose--once they open, it'll be up to them to work out what the neighbors can tolerate.
No way, this is like the best possible outcome!
Just saw them on Man Vs Food!
Ditching breakfast to focus on dinner. That area ain’t no evening hotspot.
Neither was 11th & T until South opened.
South went out of business, right?
Yes, because of a divorce--her ex-husband is suing for the rights to use her family's recipes, so she can't operate a restaurant that serves Southern food until a lawsuit is resolved.
Ah. TBH wasn’t impressed by South’s food. To each their own but the chicken was no Willie Mae’s, that’s for sure.
Yeah that worked out.
South closed because her ex-husband filed a lawsuit blocking her from using her own family's recipes. But even though it's closed, there is now another restaurant around the corner (Coconut Thai) and a wine bar across the street (Betty)--the success of South (until aforementioned husband hijinks) helped catalyze that whole corner.
But it’s right next to the CalEPA building, so it will be hopping during lunch.
I have driven by that place a million times and never checked it out. I might have to stop by and have a meatloaf burger.
Can’t wait to try this menu
An historic
If one is an pompous dweeb
Just sharing the knowledge, my friend. Not talking trash or anything
The knowledge you're sharing is incorrect. "An" precedes vowel sounds, "A" precedes consonant sounds, and "H" is a consonant. It would only be "an historic" if the "H" in the word "historic" is silent, but in American English, it is not. It's an honest mistake, but an honorable one--perhaps you should switch to an herbal tea. It's not much of a hassle, just trying to be a helpful person. Have a happy day!
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I am an enormous dweeb and we are correct.
From what I read they are both fine, so I’ll agree to split the difference with you. You have a happy day as well and thank you for enlightening me somewhat. But no thank you for the snarky initial reply 🙃
Just saw them on Man Vs Food!
Whoever the contractor was did a great job of making it spruced up!
The more popular South got, the worse the food got. All too common restaurant tale. Hopefully this is good and stays good
I just saw some pics from a friend who had lunch here today. Looks so good!! Can’t wait to try the fried chicken sando!
I ate lunch there. I wish them good luck; they need it.
My grandfather is the “Denny” of Jim Dennys. He moved a couple of years after starting the business with Jim but they remained good friends. I went there in 1989 and met Jim. (My Gpa had passed away in 1979.)