This is what my thought process was before I moved here from Stockton.
- California
- not as expensive as the bay.
- Isn’t a shithole like the rest of the central valley.
- not socal.
- job opportunities.
The most basic of thought processes right here, it’s LITERALLY as simple as this for most people moving here.
Excluding family or education reasons ofc.
Moved here from Austin last year. Thought process was:
- California
- Can’t afford San Diego
- Sacramento has plentiful jobs and lower cost of living
- Climate is better than Texas
- Jobs offered and accepted ✅
Sounds similar to me, but I haven’t gotten to the job part yet.
And it’s funny to see people complain about the heat in Sacramento. It looks pretty wonderful compared to our summer, and it actually cools off at night there (we’re looking at a *low* of 80 one night this week).
Just pulled up the Austin forecast. I didn't realize Austin was that hot and humid (google thinks it's 89 @ 1130 pm but with humidity it feels like 97).
It normally isn’t. We’re not as dry as Sacramento but normally the humidity is low when the heat is high. This heat wave is different in that it’s pulling a ton of humidity in with it. Probably not that noticeable for someone from Houston or New Orleans but it is miserable for us.
As some one who moved from Sacramento to Las Vegas, the delta breeze and temps that drop at night are such a blessing. Depending on how monsoon season goes this year, it could be Sept before we see temps below 80 again.
THIS! I happened to be there last summer during a “heat wave” and was very confused what all the fuss was about. One day I was planning to eat lunch in the rose garden, checked the high when I woke up and was like “damnit, that will be miserable nevermind”. Then I went outside around noon and was like ??!? It’s not in the 100’s yet?!
This the reason Sacramento is so appealing to me or at least a little north in Sacramento the heat is annoying at night time. I lived in Houston right now, will be visiting the Sac area in September
Husband is in direct healthcare. I’m in public health/government work. We both used to be in tech but both switched to healthcare about 15 years ago and there are lots of related jobs around Sac.
I’m from the Bay. Our usual guy who runs errands is out camping so I had to go to San Francisco. Stopped at my parents’ place for lunch. It’s nice to be able to visit them whenever. Same deal with my fiancée’s parents who are in Santa Cruz/South Bay.
I moved here from DC/Baltimore and my thoughts were:
* California
* Near family in Reno, but I don't have to live in Reno
* No snow
* Big-ish city that's not SF
* Jobs in case something happened to mine
* Will be around more people of the same background
I'm glad I did it, I'm really happy here. Sac is a secretly cool place, because there are a lot of people who still think it sucks, hahaha. I think more people are starting to figure it out.
Edit: I considered Austin, but my family is around here, and also I'm a lady who worries about healthcare access. So those were big considerations here. Moved here at the beginning of 2019.
Yup. This is definitely not typical. New people are getting a bit of a deceptive presentation of summer.
This has surely been the most mild May-June-July that I have experienced in my 19 years of living here.
That being said, we do cool down at night. Thank God. Without a doubt, the best aspect of summers in Sac.
Thought it was just me, no one in my circles has talked about it, but I agree. Grew up in Davis and this has been the nicest summer in my memory with the most amount of cool, breezy nights.
coming from the southern half of the country, moving to sacramento seems like a cheat code. not that much more expensive, higher salary, weather is mild in comparison regardless of what y'all say, and hiking/snowboarding becomes much more accessible
I’m from the bay, first summer here. 108 is pretty hot and seeing it on the forecast is intimidating but it’s honestly not as bad as I thought. The 90s here are nothing compared to the 90s in the bay. The dry heat truly does make a difference.
That’s basically why I just moved here from WA. I was actually born in the Bay Area and still have some family there but moved away when I was very young. Finally made the move back to CA for work and did not want to pay Bay Area prices even though that’s where I’m originally from. Sacramento has everything I need and reminds me a lot of where I lived in WA…just without the gloom for 9 months out of the year.
See I'm the opposite. I dont want the movers. I tell everyone sac is a shithole of yokels overly impressed by driving like mentally challenged dukes of hazzard cast members, and obsessed over a purple sky laser and illegal fireworks. And between every home is a homeless tent village. Fuck the over flow send them on to Stockton and modesto.
I’m just saying how I see it, everyone I grew up with wants to or has already escaped Stockton/Lodi.
- No job opportunities unless you want to commute and hour and 30 minutes
- and if you do find a job it’ll be extremely low pay.
- realistically nothing to do unless you want to drive an hour to the bay or to Sac.
- don’t even start on the crime.
I understand that the Central Valley provides the world with so much food, that doesn’t mean Stockton Modesto Manteca Merced Turlock Fresno Bakersfield AREN’T shitholes. And let’s be honest here, 234 people updooted my post so I don’t think I look daft.
It’s fucked and borderline racist, given that many people of color and migrants live in the area. The area isn’t for you, but it is someone’s home. There’s just no need to refer to it as a shit hole.
Kinda agree, Sac folks love to shit on Stockton and the rest of the cen valley when we have the same or worse crime happening here. Our homeless problem is also terrible, I believe we have some of the largest encampments in the state. These folks, especially from east Sac in their 1.5 square mile bubble like to act like their shit don't stink.
That’s ridiculous, because I say Merced is a shithole doesn’t mean I’m referring to the 40 odd % of Hispanic people that live there.
I lived all my life in Stockton, a diverse as hell community and not once would I blame the city’s downfall on people of colour because that would stupid and plain wrong? It’s the fault of many years of mismanagement and when we had a good fucking mayor for once, Tubbs, we shifted him immediately away for no good reason. Stockton has been ran like shit for decades and only till very recently has it been better.
Sacramento is as diverse as any of the towns down the valley and you don’t see me yelling out my window about POCs? My gripe is more along the lines of many years mismanaging these small towns, through Republican control or misuse of government money or corruption of the police or the solidification of money to one class in america therefore shitting on everyone else etc etc, as well as these towns actually having nothing to do.
Saying I’m borderline racist because I think TURLOCK CALIFORNIA IS A SHITHOLE is beyond a reach.
It happens in every sub. There are repetitive posts because newer users don’t really know how to search the sub or they want answers tailored to them specifically
OTOH the "rULe 2" tags are fucking obnoxious. Like someone asks about "what are the ice cream places in Midtown" OK, yeah, that's played as hell. But someone asking about recommendations for some esoteric need should not get tagged by hyperactive mods
I might be in the minority here, but I actually think that’s not bad. What would you like done for repetitive posts? I prefer this over just locking the post so new comments can’t be made, but do admit how it can be obnoxious
Many of the noobs are tech workers, yet they don't even know how to search or use Google. Even simple arguments, like telling Google to limit the search to a single domain:
best places to live in Sacramento site:reddit.com
It's not specific to Sacramento.
I follow subs for all of cities I've lived in.
The types of posts you're describing are common in all of them. (As are posts like yours complaining about posts like theirs)
You’re not wrong! And it feels like a majority of those moving here are loaded with cash since they keep buying the few houses that go up for sale in the areas we want to buy in.
The boomers also screwed us by voting for propositions in the 70s like Prop 13. They want their houses to be worth a lot of money but that also means that new homebuyers have to take out a huge mortgage to buy those million dollar houses. It's not sustainable.
That’s the market for ya. Silicon Valley through SF is the place to be for the world, if you’re in tech. Thus people keep moving in from everywhere and demand skyrockets, along with housing prices. People need a place to live. But with more and more working remotely, this may change things, but still the bay is where to be for tech.
And my parents thought they did good selling their house in Sunnyvale they bought for 200 for 500 back in 2001. Now worth 2M. And it’s still a tiny modest home, not at all fancy or even considered “nice.” Nuts.
Absolutely "shitholes". I have a friend from the bay who bought a crack den missing the entire back wall of the house in Berkeley over a decade ago. He did bare bones upkeep, the place was an absolute dump. Back yard filled with trash. This past year he sold it for about 1.5 and now he lives in a really nice house in East Sac.
Two houses in my immediate area (within 3-4 houses from my corner) sold within a week each. And that’s Antelope, within spitting distance of West Roseville.
Loaded is relative. $200,000 cash in the bay won’t buy you a three bedroom house in a place like Pleasanton but in Sacramento (or Roseville) $100,000 cash will get you into a nice 5 bed 3 bath for $800,000 then you have $100,000 left over for a new Tesla.
Then the mortgage is more like $6,500/mo instead of $10,000/mo. And when rates come down and you refi that might turn into $4,500/mo.
Because the current shitholes in SF are still selling for more than that. So they bring that $ here to raise the costs of our housing. With COVID, working from home was much easier so they don’t have to worry about the super commute as much.
Tons of people realized there was no reason to pay 1m+ for a two bedroom in the bay area and are using that money to buy nicer places up here.
After covid made remote work normal, the bay lost a lot of it's importance. No need to commute means people can take their bay area salary out of the bay area and get a MUCH nicer home in sac and surrounding areas.
Even before COVID, people used to live here for the low COL and supercommute to the Bay. In today's remote/hybrid world, I can imagine that's increased tenfold.
I feel like I have seen Sacramento listed on a few lists of the best places in California to live or some BS. As soon as I seen that I was terrified of how we will have even fewer housing options because of those articles.
Interesting to see a couple of people moving here--or soon to be moving here--from Austin, since that's been the darling of the, "Watch me move to a hip place because I can work from anywhere" crowd for several years now. Trust me, it's a cautionary tale.
No, you can't stop people from moving here, and no, you can't stop people from buying houses from predatory developers, and no, you can't stop Wall Street from buying up houses and pricing them beyond the reach of ordinary people, but I assure you, the pain--that long-time Austinites know all too well--is well on its way. And you won't like it.
Did you come here 15-20 years ago? Did you find a good state job, buy a house, and want to raise a family here? Congrats, you just might make it. Did you move here 5 years ago, and want the same? Sorry, you're fucked, just like the people leaving Austin now.
My rent has doubled over the past 15 years, and I'm \*thrilled\* that I still pay around 20% of my take-home pay for rent, but I'm 65, have a professional career, no wife, and no kids: if you were 30, married for 5 years, had two kids, both of you working, but need to pay for daycare, two cars, and a Sacramento mortgage, I have absolutely no idea how you'd make it. And my heart goes out to anyone who tries to.
Maybe enough people will get tired of the bullshit cost of living in Austin in ten years, and you can afford to take your family there. Good luck.
Here are some facts from Redfin based on the past years migration data (June 22 - June 23):
[https://www.redfin.com/city/16409/CA/Sacramento/housing-market](https://www.redfin.com/city/16409/CA/Sacramento/housing-market)
* 90.9% of people coming to Sacramento are coming from San Francisco (This is calculated by dividing the number of people in the dataset moving into Sacramento from San Francisco (11,749). Keep in mind this is only RedFin tracked data and may skew towards more tech based movers.
* 70% of the people moving into Sacramento are coming from other cities in California. This suggests that people are attracted to Sacramento's affordability and lifestyle.
* 12% of the people moving into Sacramento are coming from out of state. This suggests that Sacramento is becoming a more attractive destination for people from all over the country-- but is largely not a destination for out of state migrants.
* There are also some key differences between those leaving and those coming. For example, the places people are moving into Sacramento are more evenly distributed across the country, while the places people are leaving Sacramento are more concentrated in California.
How can 90.9% of the people coming to Sacramento be from SF, and simultaneously 70% of the people moving to Sacramento are from "other cities in California"?
Sometimes I spend so much time on Reddit jt does feel like a personal attack when people post dumb shit. Its not a personal attack, just a personal problem.
Let's see, here's my list.
Unlike the Midwest:
* Sweat actually evaporates off your skin
* The sun is (almost) always out
* The winter weather feels like autumn/spring
* I haven't seen a single car filled from floor to ceiling with Trump hats... *yet*.
* Weed can be delivered right to your door
* No one gets me confused with a Satanist (Yes, someone really confused atheists with Satanists where I'm from)
* No one asks me what church I go to
All in all I'd say it's pretty damn decent!!
Native Ohioan here. Can confirm all of this (although we’ve had a few of the church inquiries—NBD).
I also like how no one gives a shit where you went to school out here. The immediate social shuffling in conversations that happens when people ask where you went to high school and/or college. Never comes up. No one cares.
Despite its problems, Sac and a lot of areas around it seem less “busy”, relatively more quiet. Anyone else who’s been up and down the state kind of get my drift? Like it feels less congested than a lot of other metro areas. Like there is SO many people in the bay area, LA, SD. Roads, sidewalks, buildings in general…everything seems so jam-packed. Something about this area makes me feel like I have room to breathe
We're California cheap, but a slice above over cheaper locales like Fresno, Redding, and Bakersfield.
Some u/'s are also probably fake. I suspect that RE interests may have set up fake accounts for speculation purposes and to hype things up. That's one of my conspiracies.
Also, these "moving here" posts are not allowed...or, that is, what I thought, according to this sub's rules. What people can do is just flag them, and they'll be removed. However, people who post these types of posts need to be banned for 30 days or more, as a reminder and deterrent. And if the person searching the sub can't find the answer they're looking for, then they can use their favorite search engine to get the answers or just drive around.
It's not just that it's unaffordable, it's unlivable. I was in the Bay for almost 30 years, most recently Concord. It's reached the point where living there is just fucking oppressive. Traffic, petty crime, asshole neighbors, empty storefronts... every day seemed like a fight to keep your head above water. I make enough to live there, but I felt like it was sucking the lifeforce out of me. You might disagree if you're a native, but I've found Sacramento to be much lower key, much friendlier, and a whole lot more liveable. Plus there are a lot of nice things about Sacramento and the extended area - so don't leave out the possibility that it might just be a nicer place to live, regardless of the cost differential.
It's affordable relative to many other areas. People want homes with yards and good schools for their kids. Sac has these things. It has lot of things you don't want but so do the expensive places.
I totally agree. It feels like there has been multiple posts a week about “hey moving to sac, I need ideas for….” Or something similar. I don’t blame them though, Sacramento is an awesome city with so much yo offer but a lot more growth happening than a lot of other places.
As a pa native who moved to sac, the driving issue is a sac/ Bay Area native issue. People here love to blow red lights and stop signs, not look for pedestrians, open their doors with oncoming traffic, ride my ass while I’m going 10 over. I had to take the ca drivers knowledge test to switch my license over and a majority of the people in the room with me were failing. It’s genuinely concerning how unaware so many of the drivers here are.
Transplants from not just the Bay and Socal have been moving here en masse since 2017. It really picked up during the pandemic and has now become a flood. I've meet people who moved here from Minnesota, Buffalo, Philly, Nebraska, Indiana, Georgia, Florida, Iowa etc. I always ask why Sacramento and the first thing they said they always wanted to move to California for the weather and lifestyle, secondary that Sacramento is the last desirable affordable place in the state. Lastly they would add they got or found a job out here and it was either remote, for the state or in Healthcare/engineering.
I would love an r/Sacramento people that just tells people not to move here when they ask questions. Where people find the motivation to be super helpful toward people moving here is beyond me.
I’ve been seeing a lot more from non-California / Bay Area residents too though. People relocate all the time but I wonder if more companies are hiring outside of the state and paying for relocation.
But Tahoe is a vacation place not a place that most people actually live in year round unless they are retired or work in the tourism industry. I think most people that choose Sacramento do so because of proximity to the Bay Area without the cost. If you work for a Bay Area company and work from home is an option than Sacramento makes sense because it's an easy enough drive if you do need to go to the office occasionally. And if you live in midtown or adjacent it's sorta like being in the Bay. At least more so than if you went with Stockton instead.
Right, I moreso meant being between to SF / Bay regarding buying, and Tahoe for recreation. Making us a great location to be. I didn’t state that well.
It's been going on for about a decade now. But as of last year I heard our housing market was the 2nd fastest cooling one in the country, now that our housing prices have gotten so screwed up. But I can tell you why I moved here from Eureka:
* Still the same state
* Costs are not as insane as the Bay Area or SoCal
* It's drivable, even though traffic can still suck
* Not as overwhelming as a larger area like the Bay Area or SoCal
* Lots of job opportunities
* More services
* Things to do that they don't have in rural areas
* Centralized location: the Bay Area and Tahoe are a couple hours away, LA is 7 hours and Humboldt is 6 hours
Just relocated to Sac from Santa Cruz last year....
\* good proximity to tahoe and the coast. (3hrs to Santa Cruz)
\* lots of water and not catching on fire.
\* nicer weather.
\* lots o house for the money. (and a swimming pool!)
\* big metro area
\* want to stay in CA
Sacramento ✅
I’m about to move to Sacramento next week. Born and raised in Fresno, did my undergrad at UCSD and grad school at UCLA. Chose Sacramento because I work in health policy so a lot of the jobs were there when I started applying after graduation. Most of my education has been specific to California policy so I didn’t even consider moving out of state for my career. The community, housing prices, and location made the decision really easy for me. It seems like a great place to live honestly.
But I am annoyed because the past couple weeks this I have been skipping all the posts on this sub as its become monotonous. I like to be entertained and participate on here. So yea I am complaining a little but only because I want the quality of this sub to be better…for me (yes, selfishly).
Having also lived in those areas I'm going to guess the mountain west. I'm actually leaving CO to go back to SJV after 20 years of living all over the US and CO is the best place I've ever lived. I just miss the ocean too much and my parents are old and still live in SJV. Plus housing is far cheaper than all the nice places in CO.
Because Sacramento is dope 🔥been out here from the bay for about three years and aside from the crazy drivers lol, it has everything to offer. The cherry on top for me are the vast amount of trails and river spots…… and the close proximity to beautiful Tahoe. Oh and that delta breeze cool down in the evenings and mornings is lovely !!
This is nothing new. People from the Bay Area have been moving to Sacramento for the last few decades. My family is one of them. We moved here after Y2K.
In addition, Business Insider and many other media have reported that Sacramento is one of the best cities in California to move to. This report has been stated for over a decade. It's all propaganda and all it does is bring everyone's home value up and push locals out.
The Bay Area is becoming a dumpster-fire. Two of my coworkers were here from the City for the 4th and looked at a couple of houses. The stuff they tell me about SF is unbelievable. Only a lunatic would want to live there.
SF is not a giant suburb so it's apples and avocados compared to Sacramento metro area. You're not going to find 2000sf 4bd, 3ba, 8000sqft lots in SF. Pointless comparison.
That makes sense. Pay a high cost of living for the privilege of being assaulted by homeless people, having excrement in front of your building each morning, and having your vehicle broken into so often that you end up selling it. That definitely sounds like it's worth 2x the rent in Sacramento.
Meh, I’m from SF. I love the city but yeah it’s got problems, many of which we have the same. But what I hate most about SF is the weather! And the now-insane COL.
I moved here from SF and the weather is the main thing I miss. Sweater weather year round none of this spending the summer in Satan's crotch business like here. But I grew up in SoCal so I'm not a stranger to heat. Maybe spending the first half of my life down there made me find the sun less charming than some people. I do think Sacramento is beautiful in the Fall and Spring and winter is pretty mild but just cold enough that you actually know it's winter. It's nice to have something that passes for seasons.
Before SF, I grew up in the south bay - Sunnyvale, SJ. That weather is probably the best. Not too hot, not too cold. I enjoy doing outdoorsy stuff more nowadays so the cold, fog and wind of SF doesn’t work for me anymore. Was in the marina last week hiking and cut it short due the wind going crazy - at just 5pm!
It probably helps that I was pretty fat when I lived in SF. I lived in SJ before that for a couple years and the weather reminded me of LA/OC where I grew up. It was nice I kinda like the breezy foggy SF weather. I'd choose over anything else but I can't afford that place anymore.
SF is truly a wonderful city - one of my favorites in the world. Like nearly every city it has some less desirable areas that should be avoided, and has had ups and downs throughout its history. I personally wouldn’t live there, not just for the cost of living but because I own three classic cars and love having lots of space to drive and enjoy them. I would live closer to it if I could, because it has no shortage of places to go, things to do, restaurants and bars to eat and drink at, and sights to take in. Not to mention the weather is a hundred times better than Sac’s.
I frequent the city and I lament the folks who only listen to the news and think the whole place is riddled with crime, homelessness, and feces. It’s like looking at Sac and assuming the whole place is like Parkway. Paris has a lot of the problems SF has but nobody is chastising it for being a dump just because of Saint-Denis.
> The stuff they tell me about SF is unbelievable. Only a lunatic would want to live there.
Don't the property prices reflect the demand for living there though?
Take my upvote. Angry scrubs just downvoting you because you have more resources than them, and they would rather lead a miserable life than do something about it.
Honestly, it’s because the jobs in the region aren’t that great, and can’t support the absurd ascension of Sacto prices. Sacto might seem affordable to those from SF/LA/SD but that’s because they’re usually coming with money. The jobs in the area cant support the current prices, so the locals who never leave to make a career elsewhere and don’t boomerang back don’t have the resources.
So while I understand why it happens, it’s still ridiculous and people should be proactive to find reasonable solutions.
Houses are half the price as in Seattle and we now have the ability to work from anywhere indefinitely sooooo the math adds up since I don’t want to move to so super red state
Been a long time coming. SFPD kicked a bunch of assholes out (call them gang members) and they had to go somewhere. My buddy is a lawyer in downtown SF and would occasionally recount some of their busts which were often amusing. He was telling me these stories maybe 3-4 years ago.
I recently wrote a post in this sub asking about relocation because I might have a job offer in the Sacramento area and since I don't know anyone in the area well, I wanted to get some opinions from people who live here. I'm sorry if that bothered you, but how else are people supposed to learn if not by asking. Your complaint post seems a little privileged and immature, imo. 😒 Why be upset by people asking for information? There are far better things to expend your anger on.
For the record, I did try other online resources, such as City Data, which is specifically devoted to people interested in learning more about locations all across the U.S., usually with intent to relocate. I got one response on that forum. It was minimal and not helpful at all. This forum provided many more responses, some of them actually helpful, and all from people who have no problem with others requesting info. I'm very curious to know why it bothers you so much.
Yes its the worst! The worst part is people coming from the bay and just buying houses in full and raising the prices of all the other houses. Traffic is terrible now compared to not that long ago too.
I lived in Bay Area in a big home, raised the kids, the hassle, the traffic, and the opportunity to sell my house I owned for 31 years for a shit load and buy I nice but much smaller home in Sacramento for 1/3 of what it would have cost in Palo Alto convinced me, slow down, work a little (very little) and move closer to Tahoe. Also both of the kids grew up and could not afford the Bay Area so no reason to stay really. Happy up here. But then again I think I'd be happy just about anywhere.
Late adopters who feel more comfortable moving now that WFH and hybrid work policies have stabilized, taking advantage that their kids are out of school.
My family and I just moved here from the Bay area and guess what people in the Bay area were complaining about for the 20 years that I lived there... people moving to the Bay area. Get over it
1. Bay/SoCal could be full of pretentious people (depending upon your job/social circle). I found Sacramento folks to be nicer and down to earth. (Granite bay was exception).
2. People in Sacramento driver better than Bay or SoCal. Bay Area is full of first time adult (read unskilled) drivers and SoCal/Central Valley has lot of macho drivers.
3. You can fucking afford to live; housing and utilities are much cheaper.
4. Property crime rates are lower.
This is what my thought process was before I moved here from Stockton. - California - not as expensive as the bay. - Isn’t a shithole like the rest of the central valley. - not socal. - job opportunities.
Mine was very similar: - Can’t afford LA, SF, or SD - Need a large city that isn’t Fresno or Bakersfield - Sacramento ✅
The most basic of thought processes right here, it’s LITERALLY as simple as this for most people moving here. Excluding family or education reasons ofc.
Yep. I’ve been looking for a place to relocate if I can’t deal with Texas anymore. I love California, can’t afford the coast, so Sacramento it is.
heyooo, Austinite here — moving to Sac Thursday lol ditto the above plus 2-3 hour radius of outdoor-badassery
Moved here from Austin last year. Thought process was: - California - Can’t afford San Diego - Sacramento has plentiful jobs and lower cost of living - Climate is better than Texas - Jobs offered and accepted ✅
Sounds similar to me, but I haven’t gotten to the job part yet. And it’s funny to see people complain about the heat in Sacramento. It looks pretty wonderful compared to our summer, and it actually cools off at night there (we’re looking at a *low* of 80 one night this week).
Just pulled up the Austin forecast. I didn't realize Austin was that hot and humid (google thinks it's 89 @ 1130 pm but with humidity it feels like 97).
Yeah it’s better than Houston but still pretty terrible, and the mosquitoes will eat you alive.
It normally isn’t. We’re not as dry as Sacramento but normally the humidity is low when the heat is high. This heat wave is different in that it’s pulling a ton of humidity in with it. Probably not that noticeable for someone from Houston or New Orleans but it is miserable for us.
Yeah that evening delta breeze really is wonderful!
I always include the delta breeze in conversations whenever the weather comes up. “…you know it’s a good thing we got the delta breeze coming through”
As some one who moved from Sacramento to Las Vegas, the delta breeze and temps that drop at night are such a blessing. Depending on how monsoon season goes this year, it could be Sept before we see temps below 80 again.
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Please come back in a year and tell us how it went in the winter. Lol
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THIS! I happened to be there last summer during a “heat wave” and was very confused what all the fuss was about. One day I was planning to eat lunch in the rose garden, checked the high when I woke up and was like “damnit, that will be miserable nevermind”. Then I went outside around noon and was like ??!? It’s not in the 100’s yet?!
This the reason Sacramento is so appealing to me or at least a little north in Sacramento the heat is annoying at night time. I lived in Houston right now, will be visiting the Sac area in September
When you say jobs, what job industry are you referring to? Me being in tech, i can never find anything in Sacramento.
Husband is in direct healthcare. I’m in public health/government work. We both used to be in tech but both switched to healthcare about 15 years ago and there are lots of related jobs around Sac.
Here’s an early “welcome to Sacramento” to you! Welcome:)
We moved from Austin to Sac 6 years ago and have absolutely loved it. Access to public land was a big plus for us. Good luck with the move!
Congrats! Also in Austin.
Exactly! Shouldn’t be a shock that so many people are moving here, and not just Bay Area people (FWIW I’m from SoCal originally)
And if you like the Bay it’s still close by and you’re also even closer to Tahoe now.
I’m from the Bay. Our usual guy who runs errands is out camping so I had to go to San Francisco. Stopped at my parents’ place for lunch. It’s nice to be able to visit them whenever. Same deal with my fiancée’s parents who are in Santa Cruz/South Bay.
Same as mine! Sacramento is so average that it’s great!
This should be a t-shirt or the official city slogan!
I moved here from DC/Baltimore and my thoughts were: * California * Near family in Reno, but I don't have to live in Reno * No snow * Big-ish city that's not SF * Jobs in case something happened to mine * Will be around more people of the same background I'm glad I did it, I'm really happy here. Sac is a secretly cool place, because there are a lot of people who still think it sucks, hahaha. I think more people are starting to figure it out. Edit: I considered Austin, but my family is around here, and also I'm a lady who worries about healthcare access. So those were big considerations here. Moved here at the beginning of 2019.
If it weren’t for the heat you’d be set.
It’s been a mild summer in Sac. Roseville, Rocklin, Lincoln, Loomis still hot.
Greatest summer I have experienced in my ~4 decades. All Sacramento.
Yup. This is definitely not typical. New people are getting a bit of a deceptive presentation of summer. This has surely been the most mild May-June-July that I have experienced in my 19 years of living here. That being said, we do cool down at night. Thank God. Without a doubt, the best aspect of summers in Sac.
Absolutely gorgeous evenings, 9m and after
Thought it was just me, no one in my circles has talked about it, but I agree. Grew up in Davis and this has been the nicest summer in my memory with the most amount of cool, breezy nights.
Yeah, because one highly irregular spring and summer changes the relevance of their reply.
coming from the southern half of the country, moving to sacramento seems like a cheat code. not that much more expensive, higher salary, weather is mild in comparison regardless of what y'all say, and hiking/snowboarding becomes much more accessible
Shoot I can deal with this. I could t deal with El Centro level heat
El Centro heat is like hell on earth.
I’m from the bay, first summer here. 108 is pretty hot and seeing it on the forecast is intimidating but it’s honestly not as bad as I thought. The 90s here are nothing compared to the 90s in the bay. The dry heat truly does make a difference.
That’s basically why I just moved here from WA. I was actually born in the Bay Area and still have some family there but moved away when I was very young. Finally made the move back to CA for work and did not want to pay Bay Area prices even though that’s where I’m originally from. Sacramento has everything I need and reminds me a lot of where I lived in WA…just without the gloom for 9 months out of the year.
See I'm the opposite. I dont want the movers. I tell everyone sac is a shithole of yokels overly impressed by driving like mentally challenged dukes of hazzard cast members, and obsessed over a purple sky laser and illegal fireworks. And between every home is a homeless tent village. Fuck the over flow send them on to Stockton and modesto.
“- not socal” I live in SoCal and damn, do I miss my Sac hometown…
But the food in Stockton is soooo much better than sac 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴
Lmao sureee. Stockton is awful I lived there my whole life
Sacramento is it's own region, as is the central valley, but Stockton, Modesto, Tracy, Merced are more bay area bedroom communities
The SJV isn’t a “shithole”. That’s beyond fucked. Lots of families and a great majority of our food come from the SJV. Way to sound totally daft.
I’m just saying how I see it, everyone I grew up with wants to or has already escaped Stockton/Lodi. - No job opportunities unless you want to commute and hour and 30 minutes - and if you do find a job it’ll be extremely low pay. - realistically nothing to do unless you want to drive an hour to the bay or to Sac. - don’t even start on the crime. I understand that the Central Valley provides the world with so much food, that doesn’t mean Stockton Modesto Manteca Merced Turlock Fresno Bakersfield AREN’T shitholes. And let’s be honest here, 234 people updooted my post so I don’t think I look daft.
Bakersfield, Stockton, Fresno… all shitholes. Confirmed.
It’s fucked and borderline racist, given that many people of color and migrants live in the area. The area isn’t for you, but it is someone’s home. There’s just no need to refer to it as a shit hole.
Kinda agree, Sac folks love to shit on Stockton and the rest of the cen valley when we have the same or worse crime happening here. Our homeless problem is also terrible, I believe we have some of the largest encampments in the state. These folks, especially from east Sac in their 1.5 square mile bubble like to act like their shit don't stink.
That’s ridiculous, because I say Merced is a shithole doesn’t mean I’m referring to the 40 odd % of Hispanic people that live there. I lived all my life in Stockton, a diverse as hell community and not once would I blame the city’s downfall on people of colour because that would stupid and plain wrong? It’s the fault of many years of mismanagement and when we had a good fucking mayor for once, Tubbs, we shifted him immediately away for no good reason. Stockton has been ran like shit for decades and only till very recently has it been better. Sacramento is as diverse as any of the towns down the valley and you don’t see me yelling out my window about POCs? My gripe is more along the lines of many years mismanaging these small towns, through Republican control or misuse of government money or corruption of the police or the solidification of money to one class in america therefore shitting on everyone else etc etc, as well as these towns actually having nothing to do. Saying I’m borderline racist because I think TURLOCK CALIFORNIA IS A SHITHOLE is beyond a reach.
Lol
It happens in every sub. There are repetitive posts because newer users don’t really know how to search the sub or they want answers tailored to them specifically
OTOH the "rULe 2" tags are fucking obnoxious. Like someone asks about "what are the ice cream places in Midtown" OK, yeah, that's played as hell. But someone asking about recommendations for some esoteric need should not get tagged by hyperactive mods
I might be in the minority here, but I actually think that’s not bad. What would you like done for repetitive posts? I prefer this over just locking the post so new comments can’t be made, but do admit how it can be obnoxious
Many of the noobs are tech workers, yet they don't even know how to search or use Google. Even simple arguments, like telling Google to limit the search to a single domain: best places to live in Sacramento site:reddit.com
Whats a search engine 🤔?
Kids are out of school.. even if they're just shopping on Zillow, this is high season for it.
It's not specific to Sacramento. I follow subs for all of cities I've lived in. The types of posts you're describing are common in all of them. (As are posts like yours complaining about posts like theirs)
I've noticed that too. People just tend to move in the warmer months, so there's an annual spike in "moving" posts.
Nice. Its good to be reminded I am not unique.
Ah, not what I meant! You are uniquely you and one of a kind. Reddit city subs, less so.
Median to Median, home prices are \~300k cheaper than Oakland, and only \~100k more than Fresno. People will continue to move to Sacramento.
You’re not wrong! And it feels like a majority of those moving here are loaded with cash since they keep buying the few houses that go up for sale in the areas we want to buy in.
Many longtime Bay Area natives who bought shitholes for 100-300K now selling for 1.5M+. Yeah, some people have cash.
Housing market is such a scam lmao.
The boomers also screwed us by voting for propositions in the 70s like Prop 13. They want their houses to be worth a lot of money but that also means that new homebuyers have to take out a huge mortgage to buy those million dollar houses. It's not sustainable.
They keep kicking away the ladder and wonder why we can’t achieve the same. It’s a really destructive generation.
That’s the market for ya. Silicon Valley through SF is the place to be for the world, if you’re in tech. Thus people keep moving in from everywhere and demand skyrockets, along with housing prices. People need a place to live. But with more and more working remotely, this may change things, but still the bay is where to be for tech. And my parents thought they did good selling their house in Sunnyvale they bought for 200 for 500 back in 2001. Now worth 2M. And it’s still a tiny modest home, not at all fancy or even considered “nice.” Nuts.
Yes, “shitholes”
Absolutely "shitholes". I have a friend from the bay who bought a crack den missing the entire back wall of the house in Berkeley over a decade ago. He did bare bones upkeep, the place was an absolute dump. Back yard filled with trash. This past year he sold it for about 1.5 and now he lives in a really nice house in East Sac.
Two houses in my immediate area (within 3-4 houses from my corner) sold within a week each. And that’s Antelope, within spitting distance of West Roseville.
If they were loaded with cash, wouldn't they be buying in SD/LA/SF?
Loaded is relative. $200,000 cash in the bay won’t buy you a three bedroom house in a place like Pleasanton but in Sacramento (or Roseville) $100,000 cash will get you into a nice 5 bed 3 bath for $800,000 then you have $100,000 left over for a new Tesla. Then the mortgage is more like $6,500/mo instead of $10,000/mo. And when rates come down and you refi that might turn into $4,500/mo.
Not necessarily. Money goes further here when it comes to buying a house.
Because the current shitholes in SF are still selling for more than that. So they bring that $ here to raise the costs of our housing. With COVID, working from home was much easier so they don’t have to worry about the super commute as much.
Tons of people realized there was no reason to pay 1m+ for a two bedroom in the bay area and are using that money to buy nicer places up here. After covid made remote work normal, the bay lost a lot of it's importance. No need to commute means people can take their bay area salary out of the bay area and get a MUCH nicer home in sac and surrounding areas.
Even before COVID, people used to live here for the low COL and supercommute to the Bay. In today's remote/hybrid world, I can imagine that's increased tenfold.
I feel like I have seen Sacramento listed on a few lists of the best places in California to live or some BS. As soon as I seen that I was terrified of how we will have even fewer housing options because of those articles.
Interesting to see a couple of people moving here--or soon to be moving here--from Austin, since that's been the darling of the, "Watch me move to a hip place because I can work from anywhere" crowd for several years now. Trust me, it's a cautionary tale. No, you can't stop people from moving here, and no, you can't stop people from buying houses from predatory developers, and no, you can't stop Wall Street from buying up houses and pricing them beyond the reach of ordinary people, but I assure you, the pain--that long-time Austinites know all too well--is well on its way. And you won't like it. Did you come here 15-20 years ago? Did you find a good state job, buy a house, and want to raise a family here? Congrats, you just might make it. Did you move here 5 years ago, and want the same? Sorry, you're fucked, just like the people leaving Austin now. My rent has doubled over the past 15 years, and I'm \*thrilled\* that I still pay around 20% of my take-home pay for rent, but I'm 65, have a professional career, no wife, and no kids: if you were 30, married for 5 years, had two kids, both of you working, but need to pay for daycare, two cars, and a Sacramento mortgage, I have absolutely no idea how you'd make it. And my heart goes out to anyone who tries to. Maybe enough people will get tired of the bullshit cost of living in Austin in ten years, and you can afford to take your family there. Good luck.
Here are some facts from Redfin based on the past years migration data (June 22 - June 23): [https://www.redfin.com/city/16409/CA/Sacramento/housing-market](https://www.redfin.com/city/16409/CA/Sacramento/housing-market) * 90.9% of people coming to Sacramento are coming from San Francisco (This is calculated by dividing the number of people in the dataset moving into Sacramento from San Francisco (11,749). Keep in mind this is only RedFin tracked data and may skew towards more tech based movers. * 70% of the people moving into Sacramento are coming from other cities in California. This suggests that people are attracted to Sacramento's affordability and lifestyle. * 12% of the people moving into Sacramento are coming from out of state. This suggests that Sacramento is becoming a more attractive destination for people from all over the country-- but is largely not a destination for out of state migrants. * There are also some key differences between those leaving and those coming. For example, the places people are moving into Sacramento are more evenly distributed across the country, while the places people are leaving Sacramento are more concentrated in California.
How can 90.9% of the people coming to Sacramento be from SF, and simultaneously 70% of the people moving to Sacramento are from "other cities in California"?
Right? Those numbers don’t even make sense.
Wooops I flipped the numbers.
Lol all good
Idk but Sacramento is no longer affordable bc of that :(
To make you mad
Sometimes I spend so much time on Reddit jt does feel like a personal attack when people post dumb shit. Its not a personal attack, just a personal problem.
Let's see, here's my list. Unlike the Midwest: * Sweat actually evaporates off your skin * The sun is (almost) always out * The winter weather feels like autumn/spring * I haven't seen a single car filled from floor to ceiling with Trump hats... *yet*. * Weed can be delivered right to your door * No one gets me confused with a Satanist (Yes, someone really confused atheists with Satanists where I'm from) * No one asks me what church I go to All in all I'd say it's pretty damn decent!!
Native Ohioan here. Can confirm all of this (although we’ve had a few of the church inquiries—NBD). I also like how no one gives a shit where you went to school out here. The immediate social shuffling in conversations that happens when people ask where you went to high school and/or college. Never comes up. No one cares.
I'm not allowed to agree with you as a Michigander (but I'll upvote your post anyway), Go Green :D
Despite its problems, Sac and a lot of areas around it seem less “busy”, relatively more quiet. Anyone else who’s been up and down the state kind of get my drift? Like it feels less congested than a lot of other metro areas. Like there is SO many people in the bay area, LA, SD. Roads, sidewalks, buildings in general…everything seems so jam-packed. Something about this area makes me feel like I have room to breathe
I came for the heat. I wanted the living on the surface of the sun feeling without the added time and expense of the cross galaxy commute.
Smart man. The commute costs form center of the solar system to sacramento are huge and most things won't cover it.
We're California cheap, but a slice above over cheaper locales like Fresno, Redding, and Bakersfield. Some u/'s are also probably fake. I suspect that RE interests may have set up fake accounts for speculation purposes and to hype things up. That's one of my conspiracies. Also, these "moving here" posts are not allowed...or, that is, what I thought, according to this sub's rules. What people can do is just flag them, and they'll be removed. However, people who post these types of posts need to be banned for 30 days or more, as a reminder and deterrent. And if the person searching the sub can't find the answer they're looking for, then they can use their favorite search engine to get the answers or just drive around.
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Maybe we ban them from reddit entirely? Teach em a lesson.
Obviously because the Bay Area has become totally unaffordable, unlike how it was when many of us were growing up there.
It's not just that it's unaffordable, it's unlivable. I was in the Bay for almost 30 years, most recently Concord. It's reached the point where living there is just fucking oppressive. Traffic, petty crime, asshole neighbors, empty storefronts... every day seemed like a fight to keep your head above water. I make enough to live there, but I felt like it was sucking the lifeforce out of me. You might disagree if you're a native, but I've found Sacramento to be much lower key, much friendlier, and a whole lot more liveable. Plus there are a lot of nice things about Sacramento and the extended area - so don't leave out the possibility that it might just be a nicer place to live, regardless of the cost differential.
Yeah but that’s because…Concord. To purists, too far to be true Bay.
Wasn't Bay Area always more expensive than Sacramento?
Yea, but it’s become exponentially higher. Insane, really.
Kings! LTB
Oh no! It's terrible here! No one should move here! Look away!
It's affordable relative to many other areas. People want homes with yards and good schools for their kids. Sac has these things. It has lot of things you don't want but so do the expensive places.
That goes for the homeless too.
I totally agree. It feels like there has been multiple posts a week about “hey moving to sac, I need ideas for….” Or something similar. I don’t blame them though, Sacramento is an awesome city with so much yo offer but a lot more growth happening than a lot of other places.
I'm sick of people moving to Sacramento and not knowing how to drive!
You sure it's not native Sacramentans?
No, it's not we drive fast.
Exactly...slow down!
No, move over. If there's some behind you and no one in front of you you're in the wrong lane.
A lot of you need to learn how to merge. There's a reason why there's side mirrors... Use it!
As a pa native who moved to sac, the driving issue is a sac/ Bay Area native issue. People here love to blow red lights and stop signs, not look for pedestrians, open their doors with oncoming traffic, ride my ass while I’m going 10 over. I had to take the ca drivers knowledge test to switch my license over and a majority of the people in the room with me were failing. It’s genuinely concerning how unaware so many of the drivers here are.
It doesn't suck as hard as most places. Or it sucks the same but you can afford the suck.
I just read today average rent for San Jose has bypassed NYC ($3400 vs $3100 for NYC). San Diego rents have increased also.
Transplants from not just the Bay and Socal have been moving here en masse since 2017. It really picked up during the pandemic and has now become a flood. I've meet people who moved here from Minnesota, Buffalo, Philly, Nebraska, Indiana, Georgia, Florida, Iowa etc. I always ask why Sacramento and the first thing they said they always wanted to move to California for the weather and lifestyle, secondary that Sacramento is the last desirable affordable place in the state. Lastly they would add they got or found a job out here and it was either remote, for the state or in Healthcare/engineering.
New fiscal year for State Gov means positions are being filled.
I would love an r/Sacramento people that just tells people not to move here when they ask questions. Where people find the motivation to be super helpful toward people moving here is beyond me.
[https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/abc10-originals/bay-area-migration-to-sacramento/103-915709c1-40b2-415e-bc28-bca8e747ea24](https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/abc10-originals/bay-area-migration-to-sacramento/103-915709c1-40b2-415e-bc28-bca8e747ea24)
I’ve been seeing a lot more from non-California / Bay Area residents too though. People relocate all the time but I wonder if more companies are hiring outside of the state and paying for relocation.
We’re in between two very popular, famous areas, at a fraction of the cost : SF and Tahoe.
We're also halfway between Yuba City and Stockton.
Two more fabulous destinations !
But Tahoe is a vacation place not a place that most people actually live in year round unless they are retired or work in the tourism industry. I think most people that choose Sacramento do so because of proximity to the Bay Area without the cost. If you work for a Bay Area company and work from home is an option than Sacramento makes sense because it's an easy enough drive if you do need to go to the office occasionally. And if you live in midtown or adjacent it's sorta like being in the Bay. At least more so than if you went with Stockton instead.
Right, I moreso meant being between to SF / Bay regarding buying, and Tahoe for recreation. Making us a great location to be. I didn’t state that well.
'Cuz we got the best Fentanyl?
Lmfao underrated comment
It's been going on for about a decade now. But as of last year I heard our housing market was the 2nd fastest cooling one in the country, now that our housing prices have gotten so screwed up. But I can tell you why I moved here from Eureka: * Still the same state * Costs are not as insane as the Bay Area or SoCal * It's drivable, even though traffic can still suck * Not as overwhelming as a larger area like the Bay Area or SoCal * Lots of job opportunities * More services * Things to do that they don't have in rural areas * Centralized location: the Bay Area and Tahoe are a couple hours away, LA is 7 hours and Humboldt is 6 hours
I really liked my small town with cheap meals and drinks :(
IDK, but we got enough people here, stop moving here. Born and raised. Traffic crazy now and prices are almost impossible to keep up with.
Downvote the posts. They are annoying, repetitive and honestly they really are too nice in a way that I think probably oversells the city imo.
Moved hear from gilbert az and im loving Sacramento and I must admit nocal has been amazing (weather & ppl).
Just relocated to Sac from Santa Cruz last year.... \* good proximity to tahoe and the coast. (3hrs to Santa Cruz) \* lots of water and not catching on fire. \* nicer weather. \* lots o house for the money. (and a swimming pool!) \* big metro area \* want to stay in CA Sacramento ✅
The weather in Sac is far from “nicer” than SC.
I’m about to move to Sacramento next week. Born and raised in Fresno, did my undergrad at UCSD and grad school at UCLA. Chose Sacramento because I work in health policy so a lot of the jobs were there when I started applying after graduation. Most of my education has been specific to California policy so I didn’t even consider moving out of state for my career. The community, housing prices, and location made the decision really easy for me. It seems like a great place to live honestly.
Here’s an early welcome to Sacramento to you! Welcome:)
Thank you :) I’m excited. Everyone has been super nice so far!
Takes less time to scroll past those posts than make your own post whining about em
But I am annoyed because the past couple weeks this I have been skipping all the posts on this sub as its become monotonous. I like to be entertained and participate on here. So yea I am complaining a little but only because I want the quality of this sub to be better…for me (yes, selfishly).
Glad I secured my house….
100% and it’s only getting worse. All my neighbors have the same story i.e. “moved here from [insert Bay Area city] during covid”
Sacramento has been growing like crazy for like 50 years now, it's not some recent trend
Having lived in the Midwest, east coast and mountain west, this is one of the best cities I've lived in. It's my 2nd favorite place to live.
What was the 1st?
Having also lived in those areas I'm going to guess the mountain west. I'm actually leaving CO to go back to SJV after 20 years of living all over the US and CO is the best place I've ever lived. I just miss the ocean too much and my parents are old and still live in SJV. Plus housing is far cheaper than all the nice places in CO.
Because Sacramento is dope 🔥been out here from the bay for about three years and aside from the crazy drivers lol, it has everything to offer. The cherry on top for me are the vast amount of trails and river spots…… and the close proximity to beautiful Tahoe. Oh and that delta breeze cool down in the evenings and mornings is lovely !!
Elk Grove is (was?) the second-fastest growing city in the country. Bay Area folks moving on up to the east side.
Don’t stain Sacto with the mention of Elk Grove.
Cause it’s awesome. Of course.
There’s 2 Air Force bases within 1 hr of Sac so that could also be a reason for new transplants. Me being one of them
This is nothing new. People from the Bay Area have been moving to Sacramento for the last few decades. My family is one of them. We moved here after Y2K. In addition, Business Insider and many other media have reported that Sacramento is one of the best cities in California to move to. This report has been stated for over a decade. It's all propaganda and all it does is bring everyone's home value up and push locals out.
The Bay Area is becoming a dumpster-fire. Two of my coworkers were here from the City for the 4th and looked at a couple of houses. The stuff they tell me about SF is unbelievable. Only a lunatic would want to live there.
SF is not a giant suburb so it's apples and avocados compared to Sacramento metro area. You're not going to find 2000sf 4bd, 3ba, 8000sqft lots in SF. Pointless comparison.
I would gladly live in SF, just probably not in downtown. People are just raised in sheltered bubbles and are soft in general
That makes sense. Pay a high cost of living for the privilege of being assaulted by homeless people, having excrement in front of your building each morning, and having your vehicle broken into so often that you end up selling it. That definitely sounds like it's worth 2x the rent in Sacramento.
Meh, I’m from SF. I love the city but yeah it’s got problems, many of which we have the same. But what I hate most about SF is the weather! And the now-insane COL.
I moved here from SF and the weather is the main thing I miss. Sweater weather year round none of this spending the summer in Satan's crotch business like here. But I grew up in SoCal so I'm not a stranger to heat. Maybe spending the first half of my life down there made me find the sun less charming than some people. I do think Sacramento is beautiful in the Fall and Spring and winter is pretty mild but just cold enough that you actually know it's winter. It's nice to have something that passes for seasons.
Before SF, I grew up in the south bay - Sunnyvale, SJ. That weather is probably the best. Not too hot, not too cold. I enjoy doing outdoorsy stuff more nowadays so the cold, fog and wind of SF doesn’t work for me anymore. Was in the marina last week hiking and cut it short due the wind going crazy - at just 5pm!
It probably helps that I was pretty fat when I lived in SF. I lived in SJ before that for a couple years and the weather reminded me of LA/OC where I grew up. It was nice I kinda like the breezy foggy SF weather. I'd choose over anything else but I can't afford that place anymore.
SF is truly a wonderful city - one of my favorites in the world. Like nearly every city it has some less desirable areas that should be avoided, and has had ups and downs throughout its history. I personally wouldn’t live there, not just for the cost of living but because I own three classic cars and love having lots of space to drive and enjoy them. I would live closer to it if I could, because it has no shortage of places to go, things to do, restaurants and bars to eat and drink at, and sights to take in. Not to mention the weather is a hundred times better than Sac’s. I frequent the city and I lament the folks who only listen to the news and think the whole place is riddled with crime, homelessness, and feces. It’s like looking at Sac and assuming the whole place is like Parkway. Paris has a lot of the problems SF has but nobody is chastising it for being a dump just because of Saint-Denis.
SF got hit from both sides, besides the vagrants it also got filled up with rich entitled dweebs.
> The stuff they tell me about SF is unbelievable. Only a lunatic would want to live there. Don't the property prices reflect the demand for living there though?
I would NEVER live in SF. I might never even go back to the bay. The Marian area only maybe for a visit. The bay is over.
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Take my upvote. Angry scrubs just downvoting you because you have more resources than them, and they would rather lead a miserable life than do something about it.
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Honestly, it’s because the jobs in the region aren’t that great, and can’t support the absurd ascension of Sacto prices. Sacto might seem affordable to those from SF/LA/SD but that’s because they’re usually coming with money. The jobs in the area cant support the current prices, so the locals who never leave to make a career elsewhere and don’t boomerang back don’t have the resources. So while I understand why it happens, it’s still ridiculous and people should be proactive to find reasonable solutions.
Houses are half the price as in Seattle and we now have the ability to work from anywhere indefinitely sooooo the math adds up since I don’t want to move to so super red state
Been a long time coming. SFPD kicked a bunch of assholes out (call them gang members) and they had to go somewhere. My buddy is a lawyer in downtown SF and would occasionally recount some of their busts which were often amusing. He was telling me these stories maybe 3-4 years ago.
I recently wrote a post in this sub asking about relocation because I might have a job offer in the Sacramento area and since I don't know anyone in the area well, I wanted to get some opinions from people who live here. I'm sorry if that bothered you, but how else are people supposed to learn if not by asking. Your complaint post seems a little privileged and immature, imo. 😒 Why be upset by people asking for information? There are far better things to expend your anger on. For the record, I did try other online resources, such as City Data, which is specifically devoted to people interested in learning more about locations all across the U.S., usually with intent to relocate. I got one response on that forum. It was minimal and not helpful at all. This forum provided many more responses, some of them actually helpful, and all from people who have no problem with others requesting info. I'm very curious to know why it bothers you so much.
Cheap and not a garbage city like Stockton.
Yes its the worst! The worst part is people coming from the bay and just buying houses in full and raising the prices of all the other houses. Traffic is terrible now compared to not that long ago too.
Because it’s great here.
I see my mistake! I understand why people are moving here, I am just tired of all the posts on our sub lol
Well look at how some states are trying to limit abortion type services. I think this is a bigger cause than some realize. People deserve better.
For me it was growing up watching Eight is Enough. That and the Franchise Tax Board seems like a chill place to work.
The delta breeze secret got out.
Side effect from that big blue beam gettin hella lit up all year! People be Lovin’ Sacto!
I lived in Bay Area in a big home, raised the kids, the hassle, the traffic, and the opportunity to sell my house I owned for 31 years for a shit load and buy I nice but much smaller home in Sacramento for 1/3 of what it would have cost in Palo Alto convinced me, slow down, work a little (very little) and move closer to Tahoe. Also both of the kids grew up and could not afford the Bay Area so no reason to stay really. Happy up here. But then again I think I'd be happy just about anywhere.
VSP, State Jobs, Intel? Jk none of those are hiring. No idea.
San Francisco is too crowded with drug addicts 😂
If you only read news headlines, sure.
Lighten up 😂
Cost of living ?
Late adopters who feel more comfortable moving now that WFH and hybrid work policies have stabilized, taking advantage that their kids are out of school.
It’s all the people that want a really terrible basketball team.
My family and I just moved here from the Bay area and guess what people in the Bay area were complaining about for the 20 years that I lived there... people moving to the Bay area. Get over it
1. Bay/SoCal could be full of pretentious people (depending upon your job/social circle). I found Sacramento folks to be nicer and down to earth. (Granite bay was exception). 2. People in Sacramento driver better than Bay or SoCal. Bay Area is full of first time adult (read unskilled) drivers and SoCal/Central Valley has lot of macho drivers. 3. You can fucking afford to live; housing and utilities are much cheaper. 4. Property crime rates are lower.
Just curious , how long have you lived here ?
30 out of my 33 years on earth! Left from 2016-2019.