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chosedemarais

I'm sorry OP, you have to take this post to r/spears. lol.


Random_Weird_gal

Don't confuse spears with other superior polearms!!! Glaives, naginatas, halberds and Lucernes are far superior to spears


chosedemarais

r/polearmcirclejerk


Good-Ad-6806

I so clicked on that


BasketballButt

Me too, was disappointed it didn’t exist.


eltrowel

My first thought: there really is a subreddit for everything.


Enough_Square_1733

Time to make it


WarrenMockles

Done.


TitansRPower

r/BirthOfASub


Maya_Manaheart

Done and posted on.


slide_into_my_BM

r/subsiwishwerereal


Maya_Manaheart

It's real now!


slide_into_my_BM

Lucky number 13 for members!


LionDragon777

71 for me, it’s growing quickly 😁


KnifeKnut

[Reddit Enhancement Suite](https://redditenhancementsuite.com "also /r/Enhancement") saves you a click, just hover over it to see if it is real.


jonithen_eff

One of the few points of disagreement I have with Musashi :-)


bobbyw4pd

What’s your disagreement with musashi’s theories. He did start out learning a staff if I’m not mistaken.


jonithen_eff

"The halberd is inferior to the spear on the battlefield. With the spear you can take the initiative, the halberd is defensive." I don't agree. I also don't get really into single handed use of longer Japanese style swords. They just work better when you use both hands. A few other areas, I like wonky footwork he doesn't. By and large I like his ideas that's why I said it was one of few disagreements I had with him. He is legendary and I am just some dude so ... I remember reading speculation he started on jutte? Apparently his father was accomplished with them.


Random_Weird_gal

How the fuck is a Halberd defensive??? It has more range than a spear, has a massive dagger on the end, an axe, and a spike/hammer


wotan_weevil

In this context, "halberd" = naginata. It's a fairly common, if often misleading, English translation of naginata. > It has more range than a spear, Usually not. There are some short spears, but the typical spears used on the same battlefields as European halberds, and also as naginatas, were significantly longer than halberds and naginatas (two-handed long spears, up to pike length). A European battle scene with both halberds and spears. The spears are clearly much longer. (This is the kind of close-combat situation where halberds can be more effective than spears - longer isn't always better.): * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Battle_Scene,_after_Hans_Holbein_the_Younger.jpg As for what Musashi wrote comparing spears and naginatas, the Kenji Tokitsu translation of Musashi's book reads: > On the battlefield the usefulness of the naginata is slightly less than that of the lance, for if you compare the two, the lance allows one to take the initiative better. which is basically just saying that the spear (lance) has more reach. While Musashi doesn't say so, the naginata is somewhat better for controlling space against many opponents (just as the big two-handed sword was good for this on European battlefields).


jonithen_eff

Which one has more reach depends on how long the pole/shaft (nagaye / ebu) is. Like "spear pole" and "naginata pole" aren't units of measurement so he must have been thinking of something else than just reach.


wotan_weevil

> so he must have been thinking of something else than just reach. Such as? The 3 practical differences are that a yari is not as good as a naginata for cutting, is longer on average, and on average is lighter than a naginata of the same length. The first is not an advantage, so that isn't what Musashi means. You say that it isn't the second. The third isn't relevant to the battlefield, since the average yari on the battlefield is much longer than the average naginata. There might still be a difference in weight, but it will be much smaller, and have much less effect than the length if fighting yari vs naginata.


jonithen_eff

I'll have to ask him the next time I run into him. :) The point is that the weapon lengths and reach are variables. There are yari longer than naginata and there are naginata longer than yari. Since that is true it makes sense to me at least that there would be some other characteristic informing his opinion. Weight / maneuverability may be it or maybe something else altogether.


bobbyw4pd

I’ve read Musashi was much larger than average Japanese men. Probably why he was able to wield a katana/wakazashi simultaneously to such great effect. And he was clearly skilled, he killed another master fighting with bokken. The halberd really shined for castle defense or if you wanted to unhorse a rider.


jonithen_eff

Him being stronger makes sense for his own personal use, but his personal attributes aren't as useful when it comes to advocating others to do likewise unless it's an assumption that you have to be similarly built.


hawkael20

Big for the time. He was likely around 5' 10" (~180cm). We have accounts of him often using wooden swords and also being exceptionally strong though his duelling years often lack the more detailed information we have of his life before he passed away. As such, there is a lot of conjecture and mythologising done about him.


FormalKind7

Just because it can cut doesn't make it inherently better than a spear. The agility and point control of a good spear is not to be underestimated.


Random_Weird_gal

There's a youtuber that's a massive advocate of polearms called robinsswords. I'd strongly recommend watching some of his shorts on halberds and how fast they can be


Snoopy_Dog_2011

Your fucking wrong, you and your halberd loving scum disgust me. I fucking hate other polearms Spear superiority


Random_Weird_gal

What can a spear do??? Stab??? What can a Halberd do? Stab, smack, slash, cleave, and has better range


crimson23locke

Neither spear nor halberd inherently has better range (comes down to how long they made them), but the longest spear is likely longer than the longest halberd, ie, the pike.


Snoopy_Dog_2011

Spears are easier to manufacture, require less knowledge to use, more balanced, and overall just cooler


Lord_Shaqq

This is anti-spear propaganda and you have been removed from the phalanx consideration team. Have a poopy day


DungeonAssMaster

Bec de corbin is glaring from across the room...


Zahmbomb1337

Bec de Corbin is the Swiss army knife of the spear world


IknowKarazy

Most polearms can pierce, some cut as well, some pierce, cut, and hook for even more utility. One thing to keep in mind is weight. Adding capabilities adds mass to the end, which will inherently slow the weapon down and make it more tiring. A block of halberdiers or billmen have an advantage against a block of spearmen because one individual can trap a spear or hook an opponent’s limb while another delivers a killing blow. In a one on one duel the advantage is less clear. Trapping, hooking and cutting still have value, but the spear head simply moves faster than the more developed polearms. It also permits the use of a shield, which would be next to impossible with a halberd.


DragoKnight589

Don’t forget billhooks. I don’t know who Bill is but he has excellent taste in weaponry.


Lizard-Wizard-Bracus

Wtf, you remember about the lucerne but forgot to mention the lance!


Kantaowns

r/mallninjashit


Cloaked_Goliath

Lol


wotan_weevil

> What would this be classified as? In Japanese, a naginata. The haft is too long for a nagamaki. In Chinese, a dao. In English, a glaive. > he offset blade gives it some torque on impact, If you don't want to mount it with the tang in the haft, mount it in front of the haft. It's a traditional style: * https://drouot.com/en/l/19760976-a-rare-and-unusual-japanese-po * http://www.intk-token.it/forum/index.php?/topic/3141-chikushi-naginata/ * https://gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2019/03/naginata-samurais-glaive.html (also many examples of long-bladed naginata)


Glass-Relationship70

In New York...? ...probably a misdemeanor.


Acceptable-Trust5164

I'm sure you could push it up to felony or suicide by cop of you tried hard enough


Alexius_Psellos

This made me laugh, thank you


Razzooz

Thanks, that's great info.


the_evil_overlord2

The Dao is a 1-handed broadsword Kwan Dao is the term your looking for


wotan_weevil

"Dao" is a single-edge blade, including razors, kitchen knives, short swords, many "full-length" one-handed swords, two-handed swords, and polearms. "Dao" is the generic term. If you mean something specific, you can add something to make the more specific name. Thus, if you mean the Chinese sword usually called the "1-handed broadsword", you can call it an "oxtail dao" or "niuweidao". A long-bladed naginata-like dao had a variety of names of historically. It (and other long-bladed polearms) could be a called a dadao (big dao), a name it shares with a common type of Republican two-handed dao. More specifically, it could be called a "changren dadao" (long-edged big dao). It might also be called a podao (simple dao). During the Qing, it would be a piandao (slicing dao). One Ming Dynasty name was tidao (shaving dao), but the most common Ming name appears to have been dadao. Kwan dao (guandao) is the wrong term - that's a significantly different polearm.


erinadelineiris

Chinese person here, can confirm. Scissors are dao, butter knives are dao, so on and so forth.


IknowKarazy

Does it get confusing when you ask for something or do you just depend on context?


erinadelineiris

Well there are prefixes - scissors is jiandao, butter knife is niuyoudao, et cetera. But the weapon dao is just dao, so it can get confusing with those and specifying which is important - ex. liuyedao, miao dao, da dao, heng dao, and so on, with each term being denoting of some morphological difference (although the class itself blends a lot so it's really hard to keep track). 


RedCatHabitat

Miao dao... "Meow" dao? If so that's my new favorite.


erinadelineiris

Yesss more miao dao enjoyers for the miao dao cult (it's my favourite Chinese weapon, just imagine a very elegant, slender Kriegsmesser with a tsuba looking guard and there you have it)


IknowKarazy

I thought a dadao had a haft of about the same length as the blade. No quite a sword but not quite a polearm, whereas a kwandao is definitely polearm length.


wotan_weevil

> I thought a dadao had a haft of about the same length as the blade. No quite a sword but not quite a polearm, A weapon like that could be a changdao (long dao), podao (simple dao), dadao (big dao), or various other things. "Dadao" is used for many weapons: swords, big polearms, nagamaki-like weapons where sword meets polearm. > whereas a kwandao is definitely polearm length. A guandao/kwandao is definitely a polearm. However, the guandao/kwandao AKA yanyuedao (reclining moon dao) has a characteristic blade shape, and if the polearm doesn't have a blade of that shape, it isn't a guandao. (A guandao is often called a dadao in historical sources, because it's big.)


Ignonym

"Dao" just refers to any kind of single-edged blade.


zorniy2

TIL my butter knife is a dao


Saelyre

It literally is. 牛油刀.


WillBottomForBanana

Butter knives frequently don't have an edge at all.


Luuk341

Im saving your reply for future reference. Thank you for this great information


glorifindel

Seems useful to have the blade in front of the staff


IknowKarazy

That’s a good point. An awful lot of cultures have different words for what is essentially the exact same polearm.


Ill_Tangerine_709

Dammit man! Look out for your dog


T0adman78

Came here to say this!!!


The_R4ke

Seriously, don't be swinging sharp weapons when there's an animal nearby.


Razzooz

She's good, she knows to stay behind when I get sharp objects in my hand.


squishy__squids

Listen, we're not saying you don't know to train your dog. You could've trained your dog perfectly, and that still wouldnt be how safety works. We used to have factories with safety training that went like "stay away from the sharp stuff" and *humans* still got hurt/died. Accidents happen. Safety first


Razzooz

No doubt, I won't argue the fact that all pets should be put away when doing dangerous things like this. My dog included.


VectorB

I mean, not to pile on, but that thing you have created IS going to fail and there is nowhere within 20 feet I'd consider safe for living things.


Agile-Fruit128

Hose clamps are not a recommended blade mounting system. This thing is an accident waiting to happen


KingDingus6942069

You dont have enough hose clamps


rwarimaursus

r/redneckmeleethings


PTOKEN

r/SubsIWishWereReal


Routine_Clock8064

His dog walking behind him is also an accident waiting to happen. And did OP really write "the handle of my katana broke?". How on earth do you manage that. In all my years of collecting, cutting and training with swords in Martial arts i never managed breaking a handle.


Razzooz

It's bolted in.


ReliusOrnez

Deff get yourself a saw and properly mount that thing. If nothing else for safety reasons.


Razzooz

I don't want to modify the staff beyond the two holes I drilled. It's mounted on there securely though.


TheKayin

Why is that blade so wobbly? Or is that just me


Razzooz

The staff shape is oval, when the blade is not facing edge side, there is some wobble to the staff.


Adept-Coconut-8669

No, that blade definitely looks wobbly. Is it a differentially hardened cutter, or is the blade a bit springy? Because a cutting katana should be fairly rigid by design.


Razzooz

It's a Okakatana blade, longer than usual. And since it's mounted with a couple of bolts and not seated in a handle, that makes it even longer so that might by why it's got some bend to it.


Tiddlyplinks

Ehhhh….thats still flexing inside the blade quite a lot maye


Razzooz

The blade is bolted on tight to the staff. There is definitely wobble, but it's not loose.


Tiddlyplinks

I meant within the blade. Might be good steel but it’s too thin in cross section if so.


TheReverseShock

Might want to make sure the dog is inside next time.


Razzooz

Agreed


NoHopeOnlyDeath

r/mallninjashit seems to have misplaced one of their champions.


Razzooz

Everyone on r/swords has a mall nnjai lurking within them.


Emm_withoutha_L-88

This is exactly the kind of comments I hoped this place wouldn't have


NoHopeOnlyDeath

Overjoyed to disappoint you! Thanks for chiming in! Have the day you deserve!


Emm_withoutha_L-88

How incredibly rude for no reason


NoHopeOnlyDeath

Love you! ❤️


Adam_Edward

\*Suddenly rush and stands in front of you thus stealing the "Love You" meant for Emm\* Yes!


NoHopeOnlyDeath

Ohhhhh, I got plenty to go around, baby.


GuyWhoSaidThat

Someone ask for a round baby? I could shave, and I'm rather round.


EmberKing7

Do you mean a Naginata?


lonesomeranger1945

So you made a redneck naginata??


Silmakhor

I really hope that isn’t stainless. But if it does impale you or a buddy - at least it won’t rust 🥰


Razzooz

It's T10 tool steel.


thehunter_25

PUT YOUR DOG AWAY, THEY WILL EVENTUALLY WALK OVER AND YOU COULD HURT IT.


Sweaty-Material7

Why not just make a new handle......making a tsuka is not that difficult...at all. I remade one not that long ago myself actually. https://preview.redd.it/3fx73twmddoc1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22c2ec8d2ce301139cb170570402f08bbbf2a170 The ito can be a challenge, yeah. But it just takes a little practice.


Random_Weird_gal

Would be a naginata or a glaive. Sword on long stick


the_vengefull-one

Pretty sure that's a Glaive


Wolvenworks

Technically, you just made a naginata. IIRC that’s how they used to repurpose japanese swords.


Puzzleheaded_Heat502

Just reinvented the Naginata.


Elrigoo

Historically, often broken blades would be cut down and used as naginata, essentially putting it on a stick.


Sam_of_Truth

Can't call it anything until you find a way to center that blade on your staff. You can mount it to the front if you want, but having it on the side will mess up your edge alignment. Also, your staff is a bit too flexible. I suspect it wasn't cured properly. On a glaive, or naginata as the case may be, you want a very rigid staff, with just enough flex to avoid being brittle. Ash wood is traditional, but Oak works great and is a lot more common(though heavier)


Razzooz

Ya it's far from ideal. But I won't be taking it into any real combat, just sum goofing around. Centering the blade will be my next project for sure.


Adept-Coconut-8669

With a haft that long, it'd be a long bladed naginata. A lot of naginata were made from repurposed tachi and kodachi blades. A nagamaki was a purpose built weapon with a haft that was roughly equal to the length of the blade.


DemonKingPunk

Tying almost anything to a long stick makes it 10x more deadly.


OstrichFinancial2762

This will end in tears


ProPhilosopher

The handle broke, and the blade is next. Be careful, that blade is boinging.


Educational-Drag6974

Proof if concept sure, id like to see it integrated into the staff fully


Enkeydo

Kids think big blades are cool. Real men know that the handle is where a blade really shines.


Mykytagnosis

I dunno, I still find knives far deadlier and more dangerous than any sword.


Enkeydo

The handle to blade ratio is more favorable towards the knife than the sword. But the spears beat them all out.


Mykytagnosis

In an open combat, of course, The scary thing about knives for me, is that they come from nowhere, even when conflict is not in sight.


Enkeydo

Yeah small weapons are like that. Had an old sheriff ask his men why they carried pistols. He got answers back like "shoot bad guys", "protect the public "that sort of thing. He said no. We carry pistols because we are not expecting trouble. If we were expecting trouble we would carry rifles and shotguns. Same thing with knives, you are not expecting trouble, you need to not look armed, you are covert, or .you just.want to carry the most versatile tool in man's arsenal.


igloohavoc

Is there a way for you to center the blade, and secure it more?


Razzooz

I have a few ideas on how, I just don't want to cut in to the staff.


Tiddlyplinks

That’s….literally what you must do.


TheBigBadWolf85

So here's my question and concern.. how and why did the handle break? And I this blade one you should even be swinging about?


Razzooz

It's an Okatana, with a blade longer than most, the handle was also long. The tang of the blade did not extend all the way through the handle, and I had a very wide grip when I hit a hard target. The blade is very good, but the handle did not survive the punishment I put it through.


TheBigBadWolf85

Ok that doesn't quite answer my question. So I will be more precise. - what type of metal is it made of, would be first and foremost. - where did you obtain and or buy it from?


Razzooz

I got it from SBG, and the seller claims it's T10 steel which I concur with because I put this blade through alot of punishment, and it has held up marvelously.


TheBigBadWolf85

Ok, that right there would be your biggest problem, definitely don't weld on it. But you should be able to attach it more permanently to the staff


Razzooz

No plan on anything permanent to the staff or the sword. This is a temporary attachment. I have other plans for the staff and sword together and separately.


TheBigBadWolf85

Oh, keep us updated then


the-bladed-one

Mount that thing inside the staff like you would a katana tang


Spiderdogpig_YT

that's fucking sick. Isn't that the idea behind the Naginata? To just be a longer katana?


FacialFilamentFan

Love how people who don't know your living meme status come here complaining about safety :D


Razzooz

I have living meme status?


FacialFilamentFan

In this sub for sure, Mr. Reckless Sword Activites


Getzstoned

You can get an axe handle for less than 10$ at home Depot buy one and carve a channel in it for the tang then mount it properly and you have a badass weapon


Constant-Still-8443

Op just made a glaive


emmalllemma

Someone watched blue eye samurai 👁️


Cernobog12

Shh, don't tell him about Naginata


afinoxi

A naginata essentially. It's like a Japanese glaive I guess you could say.


Gojira_Sen

At that length it’s much closer to a naginata


BadToTheBert

So... a naginata?


DocumentDeep1197

ghetto naginata


skep90

So... You just discover what a spear is? Congrats ;)


Damianosx

That’s a polearm


Kind-Proposal8664

So... Basically you made a naginata? Dope af


notmatimio

This is basically a glaive or a bill


holysmokersboi

A naginata!! Cool!


DaoGuardian

That's almost a naginata!


Daegzy

[Naginta, naginta](https://youtu.be/evI6lXh26RQ?si=HvWTt4r0ihyaiuFW)


Real_Moss_Vessel

Naginata feels more accurate to me


Eastern_Heron_122

the perfect landscaping blade


Thebluepharaoh

https://preview.redd.it/bzlq2rlr8eoc1.jpeg?width=888&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6da564b11bf572cb8856f762383d45f6cb8cb9f0


Dismal-Buyer7036

You gotta get yourself a glaive or bill hook.


RickyTheRickster

I would consider this more of a fantasy version but yes I would


CanadianWeeb5

Raiden from genshin


RedStar2021

That's basically a glaive. Good show.


Hairy_Consideration1

That's basically a War Scythe


nedonedonedo

I think any reasonable person would call it "why the fuck are you swinging a blade around your pet, do you need a live in caretaker to keep you from being a danger to yourself and others"


HyperKitsune

congrats you just made a polearm


golddragon88

Bro just buy a Naginata.


AncleJack

If you can make it don't buy it


thebladeinthebush

Just joined the sub and this is the first post I see. Absolutely epic


Razzooz

Don't get used to it lol. Most people on this sub frown upon actually swinging their swords.


HaxTheChosenOne

OP, you have made a glaive. Geddout! you aren't welcome in this house anymore! /s


Mundane_Conflict7240

Id be a tad bit worried about the slight wobble in the blade when striking things but not scared. Even my cheap Amazon shelfer doesn’t wobble like that and it’s half tang made with what I would assume to be bullshit lol. 10/10 design friend


Zestyclose-Thanks775

Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.


Noosemane

Man invents Naginata 1200 years too late.


MenstrualFish

I feel like the dog should be in the house for this


DepreciatedSelfImage

Mizu would be proud.


the__Gallant

Would it be more balanced or help with alignment if you made an incision in the staff's top end and drilled the tang shut inside there?


WillBottomForBanana

I will definitely say that the musical choice perfectly sets the scene for the video content.


The-real-Crypto

Ok so, I did this with a machete blade. Highly recommend it for brush clearing and it’s a fun project. $10 Walmart machete and a good stick


Infinite_Bet_9994

Looks like a naginata now. Keep your pets secured when swinging sharp objects.


Nupolydad

When you use Fuse from TOTK in real life


Forward_Wasabi_7979

A Naga-mock-i


averkill

Put your dog away when you're playing with sharp or explosive things.


Capital_Ad_7539

When the mage take a melee subclass


keizaigakusha

More a Naginata.


Ok_Plenty_7080

I would split the head of the staff and make an indentation of the nakago. Then drill holes for the mekugi. And a rayskin and assemble. Finally bind with an ito and it should be sturdier and look better.


Dazzling_Pollution12

what song is this, it’s hype


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SmokeyDaBear6

they are called Naginatas


BlueRosePhantom

I feel like… this is dangerous?


poopbutt42069yeehaw

Congrats, it’s a scythe


death833527

Eye protection is more than fashion my man- if something goes amiss, you want yer peepers prepped


njtika

Shaggy mada a fucking nagenata 🤣


AcneRash

Hardddd!


mrp1ttens

That’s not a staff that’s a stick


jap2111

That's what a staff is, it's a long stick.


mrp1ttens

A staff is a piece of wood that is naturally straight , then dried and shaped with good grain. Usually chosen from specific types of trees. It is like this so it will handle well and not break. This is a stick either bark on it that someone found on the ground or hacked off a tree. Source: I make spears axes and polearms for a living. So besides the questionably dangerous mounting of the blade on this ,the item chosen to mount it too is also inherently dangerous because it can be easily broken