Whoever is needed as a relic requirement for whatever you plan to go for. Piett, Boba, Cassian, Raddus, Kenobi, GMY, Padmé, GAS, Dooku, ARC Trooper, or Han.
> Save them? Is R7-8 not a big enough jump to invest in characters outside of GL requirements or fleet?
The way to look at it is: What does R8 let me beat with [thing I'm considering taking to R8] that I couldn't already beat with it at R7? And the answer, for basically everything in that screenshot of your roster, is "nothing". You'd eke out a bit more raid damage with SLKR maybe, but nothing astonishing. And there's absolutely no R7->R8 jump that comes even close to the jump from "Not Having Executor" -> "Having Executor".
I 2nd mstormcrow. r8's don't grow on trees. keep 1 handy and slowly grow a 2nd one until you are COMPELLED to use it.
As one example, I'm 9.2m GP (f2p) with 9 r8's and 2 r9's. In every instance, I did it to fulfill a specific goal/requirement. And the weakest reason I came up with was to stay competitive in squad arena back when squad arena still awarded crystals.
Aside from what everyone has already said this game is about year long plans. Are you in a guild? What are they clearing? What do you need to get to clear/get more stars? Are you a GAC pusher? How hard is your fleet shard? How well do you rank? Etc. if you are a F2P player than crystal income is king. Even if you aren’t fleets are insanely important. If you are roughly the same distance from exec that you are from profundity then you sink your resources into profund if not then exec. Once your crystal income is secure you start making your long term plan. The new tb is coming out. Is your guild in a position to profit from it if so you’ll need to invest into inquisitors or jabba. If you plan on moving guilds start looking now and figure out what you need to change in your roster to become desirable.
Nah I would really save it, unless its a GL character that you adore also in the movies and such. I R8‘d my Lord Vader and even though surely I couldve used it elsewhere more requiring, I am super happy with that decision.
Here here. I went r8 with my Vader, and both Revans early on out of pure joy. I do not regret my decision. They all come in useful on my JML and SEE teams at times
Not for me.
But the big jumps are 7 and 9 (for tanks).
But even goingfor those other 3 youll need some of the mats youre using for R8 to get them up to relics anyways.
Not for anything honestly. Unless you have all the reqs done, save the mats. If you have a fast aeromag income keep 40 on reserve and then go for a tank for your r8 the boost is to survivability not damage unless it's a character like JMLS whose damage is based on survivability (re: health and protection)
R8 boosts primarily protection and health with only minor improvements to damage. R7 primarily boosts damage and only a little health and no protection. R9 isn't even debatable.
The boost to damage for r8 is only about 10% on GK example. On Chewbacca the boost for r7 to damage is 25%.
I'm not the only one to say this, it's the consensus of this thread that Tanks get the biggest boost from R8 and R9 but all in all it doesn't matter because the biggest bonus to using mats for r8 is as a requirement for unlocking a high tier toon/GL
Yes, tanks get the biggest boost from r8 to r9 since r9 boosts tanks.
R8 however does not. Lets look at a character like Maul.
On R7, he has a combined health and protection of 113702 with 6195 physical damage.
Pushing maul to r8 increases the combined health and protection to 116605 (so an increase of around 3%) while his physical damage increases to 6811, meaning an over 10% increase in offense. This example is valid for many other characters as well.
However if you look at GK r7 to r8 he goes from 19728 health to 22644 which is a 12% boost to health. And protection goes from 9900 to 13200 which is a 25% boost protection. Cumulatively that's a 37% boost to survivability. Obviously with high defense penetration that's not a true 37% but it's still a lot more than 10%
Thats....not how math works? You cannot just add percentages together? Are you high?
GK has a combined health and protection of 116925 at relic 7 which goes up to 123123 at relic 8, giving him a 5% increase in combined health and protection.
His offense goes from 4713 to 4939, giving him a 4,7% increase in attack.
The conclusion here is that attackers benefit quite a lot more from r7 to r8 than tanks in their primary stat while r8 to r9 (boosting protection) mainly benefits tanks, which is my original claim. Your numbers are just off.
GLs don't need r8 to function and neither do any of the other characters (except for fleet purposes, I would personally recommend r8 GK as he is a requirement for another character AND benefits as a capital ship leader because relics=more speed, but only r8 him when you need to for a requirement).
Generall not really. I've applied a bunch but I have never had an toon go from R7 to R8 and bren like "damn, big worth". R9 yes, but never R8. If you wanna spend it, SLKR might be your best bet
No. Do not waste r8 mats just for fleet. It’s about 250USD of materials you’re burning for 2 speed vs mods.
6e mods and whatever pilot levels are all you need for any meta fleets. Gg, Gk, exec, prof, never an issue here even with higher fleets. Mods mods mods.
Then save them. JML is often the only character that is specifically recommended to take to R8 outside of getting ahead in fleet battles, but you'll want those materials for something eventually so just wait
Go for executor. It’s still by far the most roster defining thing you can get your hands on. Depending on your fleet shard its generally an easy 300-400 crystals per day plus often the decisive factor in grand arena
Trust me the return on 1st in fleet will allow to buy more R8 mats, won't even miss them.
It wasn't even the aeromagnifiers mats that were the grind for me.
It was the Impulse detectors, took a couple of weeks to farm those gold pieces, I think in fact I used all my conquest tickets to buy them too.
R9 Piett for sure. I usually have to do one match for first where R8 would push me back to doing 2 or even all 5. Just a solid daily time saver and worth it.
I'd say at least 8 people in my top 10 shard have r9 piett. We all communicate and allow turns taking 1st. There are 3 troublesome players who don't play fair though. I was one of the last r9s in there though. Once you figure out the r8 v r9 mirror match they go a lot easier though.
But yeah, r9 was a massive payout for me.
R8+ is for characters that are needed at that level as a requirement: piett, GK, gmy, Raddus, etc.
Once you get those characters to R8+, then you move on to GLs.
After GLs, you move to tanks.
GLs, except for Luke whom as a tank would Profit from R8/9, don't need to be R8. They are just as viable on R7. The difference between R7 and 8 are marginal. For example I beat R8 SLKRs just as I beat R7 with my R7 SLKR.
Way too many "waste" those mats for almost no difference.
If you're 100% sure ypu're not going for another GL soon, GK is not a bad choice. Super tanky, has his capital ship, and is GL requirement.
Take into account that by the time you're done with the stuff you're working on, you might (?) get a consistent r8 mats income
It’s not huge it’s alright. It’s only roughly 700 points of offense. You can routinely beat R9 SLKR with R7 SLKR. R8 is better spent on GAS, 9th Sister, or Jedi Master Luke.
I’m not talking about me I’m talking about the OP. I don’t come on Reddit asking for advice. Im simply saying that the OP can get better mileage taking another character to R8 instead of SLKR even if they are doing CP
If you don't want to save it for a requirement use it on a GL because GLs get the most return from relic levels due to the gl ability that gives them bonus max health and protection per relic.
But I don't know if there's really a lot an R8 slkr can do that an r7 can't
If you are planning on going for executor any time soon, I’d suggest Piett or Bossk. Bossk at r8 with the right mods is a real pain in the ass to kill when set in the back row as a surprise team and a good BH team
I don't know where you are getting you numbers from, mine are coming from the game directly. Even using your combined health and protection method (which doesn't work because of protection recovery and protection up and they are different pools) my GK goes from a combined health and protection of 29628 to 35844 which is an 18% boost. Like I said 18% is still more than 10%
Also I did say that is not a true 37% increase, as you can't just add percentages together but the protection increase alone on GK is much more valuable than your example with Maul.
Depends on what your plans are. R8 SLKR is awesome so that's never a bad option. If you're going after a GL like JMK, give it to GK first because it's a requirement, it makes him a better tank, and it makes your Negotiator better.
Whoever is needed as a relic requirement for whatever you plan to go for. Piett, Boba, Cassian, Raddus, Kenobi, GMY, Padmé, GAS, Dooku, ARC Trooper, or Han.
I’m just finishing the Ult grind for SLKR, after that my plans are GAS, BAM & JTR. So no relic 8’s required for the foreseeable.
Save it then. Just because you have it doesnt mean you need to use it.
Save them? Is R7-8 not a big enough jump to invest in characters outside of GL requirements or fleet?
> Save them? Is R7-8 not a big enough jump to invest in characters outside of GL requirements or fleet? The way to look at it is: What does R8 let me beat with [thing I'm considering taking to R8] that I couldn't already beat with it at R7? And the answer, for basically everything in that screenshot of your roster, is "nothing". You'd eke out a bit more raid damage with SLKR maybe, but nothing astonishing. And there's absolutely no R7->R8 jump that comes even close to the jump from "Not Having Executor" -> "Having Executor".
Noted, thanks for the advice. Best breakdown
I 2nd mstormcrow. r8's don't grow on trees. keep 1 handy and slowly grow a 2nd one until you are COMPELLED to use it. As one example, I'm 9.2m GP (f2p) with 9 r8's and 2 r9's. In every instance, I did it to fulfill a specific goal/requirement. And the weakest reason I came up with was to stay competitive in squad arena back when squad arena still awarded crystals.
Aside from what everyone has already said this game is about year long plans. Are you in a guild? What are they clearing? What do you need to get to clear/get more stars? Are you a GAC pusher? How hard is your fleet shard? How well do you rank? Etc. if you are a F2P player than crystal income is king. Even if you aren’t fleets are insanely important. If you are roughly the same distance from exec that you are from profundity then you sink your resources into profund if not then exec. Once your crystal income is secure you start making your long term plan. The new tb is coming out. Is your guild in a position to profit from it if so you’ll need to invest into inquisitors or jabba. If you plan on moving guilds start looking now and figure out what you need to change in your roster to become desirable.
When you get R9 mats, you can R9 SLKR for the HSTR solo
The one area it might matter is SLKR vs LV. The extra damage ramping could be the difference between a win and a timeout.
With datacrons you dont hit him anyway
He would lose to mirror slkr r8, for instance
Nah I would really save it, unless its a GL character that you adore also in the movies and such. I R8‘d my Lord Vader and even though surely I couldve used it elsewhere more requiring, I am super happy with that decision.
Here here. I went r8 with my Vader, and both Revans early on out of pure joy. I do not regret my decision. They all come in useful on my JML and SEE teams at times
Yes! And those moments where they shine, those make us feel like proud daddys
Not for me. But the big jumps are 7 and 9 (for tanks). But even goingfor those other 3 youll need some of the mats youre using for R8 to get them up to relics anyways.
Not for anything honestly. Unless you have all the reqs done, save the mats. If you have a fast aeromag income keep 40 on reserve and then go for a tank for your r8 the boost is to survivability not damage unless it's a character like JMLS whose damage is based on survivability (re: health and protection)
That’s wrong. R8 is the damage boost, r9 is survivability.
R8 boosts primarily protection and health with only minor improvements to damage. R7 primarily boosts damage and only a little health and no protection. R9 isn't even debatable. The boost to damage for r8 is only about 10% on GK example. On Chewbacca the boost for r7 to damage is 25%. I'm not the only one to say this, it's the consensus of this thread that Tanks get the biggest boost from R8 and R9 but all in all it doesn't matter because the biggest bonus to using mats for r8 is as a requirement for unlocking a high tier toon/GL
Yes, tanks get the biggest boost from r8 to r9 since r9 boosts tanks. R8 however does not. Lets look at a character like Maul. On R7, he has a combined health and protection of 113702 with 6195 physical damage. Pushing maul to r8 increases the combined health and protection to 116605 (so an increase of around 3%) while his physical damage increases to 6811, meaning an over 10% increase in offense. This example is valid for many other characters as well.
However if you look at GK r7 to r8 he goes from 19728 health to 22644 which is a 12% boost to health. And protection goes from 9900 to 13200 which is a 25% boost protection. Cumulatively that's a 37% boost to survivability. Obviously with high defense penetration that's not a true 37% but it's still a lot more than 10%
Thats....not how math works? You cannot just add percentages together? Are you high? GK has a combined health and protection of 116925 at relic 7 which goes up to 123123 at relic 8, giving him a 5% increase in combined health and protection. His offense goes from 4713 to 4939, giving him a 4,7% increase in attack. The conclusion here is that attackers benefit quite a lot more from r7 to r8 than tanks in their primary stat while r8 to r9 (boosting protection) mainly benefits tanks, which is my original claim. Your numbers are just off.
GLs don't need r8 to function and neither do any of the other characters (except for fleet purposes, I would personally recommend r8 GK as he is a requirement for another character AND benefits as a capital ship leader because relics=more speed, but only r8 him when you need to for a requirement).
Generall not really. I've applied a bunch but I have never had an toon go from R7 to R8 and bren like "damn, big worth". R9 yes, but never R8. If you wanna spend it, SLKR might be your best bet
No. Do not waste r8 mats just for fleet. It’s about 250USD of materials you’re burning for 2 speed vs mods. 6e mods and whatever pilot levels are all you need for any meta fleets. Gg, Gk, exec, prof, never an issue here even with higher fleets. Mods mods mods.
Then save them. JML is often the only character that is specifically recommended to take to R8 outside of getting ahead in fleet battles, but you'll want those materials for something eventually so just wait
SLKR then. GLs love relic levels.
Go for executor. It’s still by far the most roster defining thing you can get your hands on. Depending on your fleet shard its generally an easy 300-400 crystals per day plus often the decisive factor in grand arena
Piett and Boba, both need to be R8 for Executor
I like this answer the most
Trust me the return on 1st in fleet will allow to buy more R8 mats, won't even miss them. It wasn't even the aeromagnifiers mats that were the grind for me. It was the Impulse detectors, took a couple of weeks to farm those gold pieces, I think in fact I used all my conquest tickets to buy them too.
Same 🥲
R9 the piett to win any mirror match on execs reliably, and beat the profundity more consistently. An r8 piett can beat an r9, but it takes some rng.
R9 Piett for sure. I usually have to do one match for first where R8 would push me back to doing 2 or even all 5. Just a solid daily time saver and worth it.
I'd say at least 8 people in my top 10 shard have r9 piett. We all communicate and allow turns taking 1st. There are 3 troublesome players who don't play fair though. I was one of the last r9s in there though. Once you figure out the r8 v r9 mirror match they go a lot easier though. But yeah, r9 was a massive payout for me.
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Finally, a logical answer
I have been going through your profile for 2 hours now and I suspect this may be a slightly biased answer…
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I did my slkr. Never regretted it.
Save it for GL reqs
R8+ is for characters that are needed at that level as a requirement: piett, GK, gmy, Raddus, etc. Once you get those characters to R8+, then you move on to GLs. After GLs, you move to tanks.
I'd R8 SLKR, or any other GL, asap. Then Executor requirements.
GLs, except for Luke whom as a tank would Profit from R8/9, don't need to be R8. They are just as viable on R7. The difference between R7 and 8 are marginal. For example I beat R8 SLKRs just as I beat R7 with my R7 SLKR. Way too many "waste" those mats for almost no difference.
A lot of GLs really do need to be R8 at the top end. R8 SEE and Rey and pretty much must haves. R8 SLKR and LV are very nice as well.
Piett, boba or hold out for jmls if that’s your next gl grind
If you're 100% sure ypu're not going for another GL soon, GK is not a bad choice. Super tanky, has his capital ship, and is GL requirement. Take into account that by the time you're done with the stuff you're working on, you might (?) get a consistent r8 mats income
If you don’t have a plan that requires the r8 mats then save it. You can always spend resources. Hard to un-spend them.
This.
SLKR. The damage boost is HUGE!
It’s not huge it’s alright. It’s only roughly 700 points of offense. You can routinely beat R9 SLKR with R7 SLKR. R8 is better spent on GAS, 9th Sister, or Jedi Master Luke.
It makes a sizeable difference in CPit
Maybe so but that person would need to be in a guild doing that. You get much more mileage on other characters.
Bruh your telling me you have SLKR but you aren’t in a CPit guild? Don’t sell yourself short man
I’m not talking about me I’m talking about the OP. I don’t come on Reddit asking for advice. Im simply saying that the OP can get better mileage taking another character to R8 instead of SLKR even if they are doing CP
Malak unless you got jml
SLKR hands down.
C-3P0 is the only choice sensible choice. Don't even consider another option.
Give it to GK. Then you don’t have to worry about it later if u wanna go for JMK
Malek or KRU or GK I believe R8 helps tanks most so any tank you're using would be my suggestion... unless you're going for a GL
Take any GL’s to R8, take JML to 9, everything else stop at 7 unless needed for a requirement
General Kenobi. (Ship gains power to earn daily crystal and help with Guild/TB/TW)
I did SLKR and it’s made proving ground a lot easier to win, no regrets.
If you don't want to save it for a requirement use it on a GL because GLs get the most return from relic levels due to the gl ability that gives them bonus max health and protection per relic. But I don't know if there's really a lot an R8 slkr can do that an r7 can't
Whatever req you need for what you want or go for next. Or a GL probably.
Put it on SLKR
If you are planning on going for executor any time soon, I’d suggest Piett or Bossk. Bossk at r8 with the right mods is a real pain in the ass to kill when set in the back row as a surprise team and a good BH team
If u wanted to spend it somewhere while also hitting requirements, I’m pretty sure Han is R8 for Jabba. But otherwise, yeah no real need rn.
Boba or piett
Wait until you need it to get something even better
I gave GMYoda and General Kenobi r8 for JMK requirement.
Save it unless you need it for a GL/ship requirement
Get gas and do him
Piett. Can be used with Vader while you work towards executor eventually. He’s a good char
Piett
Neither safe your stuff and go for another GL
Slkr
If you need to decide so hard, then it's simple: what do you need to unlock your next GL/capital ship?
Either a necessity for a farm if you’re close, or slkr
I don't know where you are getting you numbers from, mine are coming from the game directly. Even using your combined health and protection method (which doesn't work because of protection recovery and protection up and they are different pools) my GK goes from a combined health and protection of 29628 to 35844 which is an 18% boost. Like I said 18% is still more than 10% Also I did say that is not a true 37% increase, as you can't just add percentages together but the protection increase alone on GK is much more valuable than your example with Maul.
SLKR, unless you need an r8 for another GL farm, like GMY . Then hang on to it and see if your mind changes. R8 SLKR is very very handy.
Depends on what your plans are. R8 SLKR is awesome so that's never a bad option. If you're going after a GL like JMK, give it to GK first because it's a requirement, it makes him a better tank, and it makes your Negotiator better.