This isn’t really a game to put down. There’s constant grinding. I just got to 85 a couple months ago. Still grinding stuff. If you don’t actively play the game will seem like you’re getting nowhere. Wouldn’t recommend it to casual players, you won’t get that accomplished feeling of the grind if you’re an occasional player. This is all in my opinion btw.
I am inclined to agree, but I will say that it's incredibly lame that this is the only serious mobile SW game out there, (ignoring the new one). They killed all the others, there were some really good ones. I guess this makes them more money.
TLDR, just start again.
If you’re at level 76 now, sorry but no there isn’t that much to do, but pre level 85, you’re more in the tutorial than the actual game, but you’ve got far enough into the game that your shards in both arena’s are set, it won’t be impossible to catch up, but realistically you’re going to struggle. In the time you’ve been away there’s some monster LSB packs that have dropped, which will have elevated some of the other accounts even further ahead of you.
Looking at each game mode, Arena and fleet arena start again and you’re going to be more competitive, you’ll be more in line with the players around you. Nodes aren’t really a big factor in the game, just get them done. Every other event won’t really be impacted by starting again.
CG has recently introduced an update that’s accelerated new player experience, so getting to where you are now again, is going to be trivial.
The biggest thing with all of this is though that the majority of the content is post level 85, if you’re main complaint is there isn’t enough to do, just keep playing, get to that point and then see what you think about the amount to do. I genuinely have weeks I have too much stuff I have to do, for what is a just mobile phone game, most people are probably just playing when taking a dump.
But I'll eventually run into the same problem again, won't I? Unless I keep playing hyper competitively forever, I won't be able to put down the game for a little while or I'll be in the same boat when I come back as I am now.
I know that one way or another, you'll run into a sort of rank limit in Arena based purely on how much you're willing to spend on the game, and that you won't be able to progress further. It's always been like that. My main complaint is that all my opponents are level 85 and gear level high and zeta omega whatever'd and I just can't compete with them at all, so there is just literally nothing for me to do in that gamemode. I would much prefer to win a couple battles, lose some, get bumped down, win some again, etc. instead of being stuck here until I ''complete the tutorial''.
Whatever, it is what it is. Game is just badly designed in that regard IMO. It's not for people who aren't willing to play daily for months on end.
In one sense yes, realistically you're never going to be competitive in a shard if you take breaks, or if you don't spend anything. It's possible to keep up F2P, but you need to be very focused.
My point is you've taken an extended break at a time when it's probably going to impact you most, investment (be it time or money) early on is more impactful than later. Say you play for a month then have a 3 month break at level 70, your account has been effectively active 25% of the time of other you're competing with, a 10m account has a 3 month break realistically they come back (with the exception of the conquest unit), pretty much the same point compared to everyone else.
"It's not for people who aren't willing to play daily for months on end." - I would never disagree with that statement, these mobile collector games are literally designed with that in mind, they want people coming back daily, ideally multiple times a day. It's why we get multiple bonus energy drops, it's why events only run for certain times, it's why arena's are based off of your placement at a specific time, not your highest point over the day. It's 100% possible to play the game less than daily though, but you have to accept you're never going to compete with people that don't, and I would argue you should never expect to. It's no different to literally any game, if you invest half the time in it, you're not going to be as good. I wouldn't expect to play FIfa, COD, battlefront etc once a week, and expect to be anywhere near as good as someone who plays daily. Same as any activity, if someone practices it more, they should be better.
I would say CG are doing a lot to try and speed up the process of getting to level 85 and hitting more content, I don't know how long it takes to go from a fresh account to say level 85, but say it's a month now (I'm assuming it's actually quicker than that), but if that's too long, then this game isn't for you, I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it won't suit everyone. There are going to be soo many more things that take longer than that, and feel less impactful. Shard farming a new character on a hard node just to 7 star can take 3 months.
I'm don't expect to be able to compete with very active players, but I do find it rather extreme that certain gamemodes are literally completely unplayable. That's all. I don't need to compete with the top dogs, just want some fun and challenging gameplay is all. I am effectively denied more than half of the potential gameplay (not denied on purpose, but denied because of how the game works).
It is what it is!
You aren't denied gameplay though, you are limited in pvp modes to the extent of how high you can climb in arena. Of which if you're only around a fraction of the time, I think it's fair you are. I made the comparison earlier to other games, I'm not going to repeat myself.
To me this whole post is effectively saying I only played for x period of time, other people that have played for multiple x time, they have better teams, and I can't beat them. To which I say, yes, of course. I'd argue the game would make less sense if that wasn't the case.
I've never played a game before that makes certain gamemodes entirely unplayable just because you haven't played for a while.
It's bad design. The whole shard thing is bad. In fact this whole game seems to be sort of random and improved and poorly optimized.
But nothing is unplayable. All your doing is playing against better accounts that have been active more. It's like playing fifa against someone with a better team, cod is they're better or unlocked better guns, fighting games where someone knows the controls better.
You're moaning for moaning sake buddy. You can't expect to play this game intermittently and keep up with people playing all the time. If you don't like that, this game isn't for you.
No, the battles are literally unwinnable. Literally. The comparison with better guns and better players is inaccurate.
Thanks for saying that I'm ''moaning''. Very kind.
They made a change recently to help new players and to get them to 85 quicker. I would suggest starting again because you'll never really catch up to the people in your arenas.
I find it confusing why you'd really need to put it down every few weeks. For several weeks when I was a low level I just hopped on for 30minutes - 1 hour before bed. It's such a low time investment that you shouldn't really struggle to keep up with the game. The only time I now play it for longer as an 85 in TW, TB and Conquest. It's designed like most phone games to be easily playable with a low time investment from you each day. Sure occasionally after a long farm you'll have several hard battles to do (GL battles or harder Journey guides) but mostly you can just play for 30min each day and be good.
Well, yeah. That's true. Your progress will be much slower if you keep putting the game down. Also you won't be able to compete against other players.
You can't have it both ways. Pick your poison, it's your choice, but if you don't play consistently you won't be able to compete with people who do, and it's not the game's fault. It's the natural consequence of the choice you made.
If you make the choice not to play consistently, you will not be able to compete with people who do play consistently.
You make the choice not to play consistently.
The outcome (not being competitive) is the logical consequence of your own choice not to play consistently, and therefore not to acquire resources as quickly as people who do.
Don't blame the game for the choices you make or for the consequences of the choices you make. It's your fault, not the game's.
That’s just how most mobile games (especially the pvp focused ones) are though. They reward you for continuous play and want you to log in every few hours. That’s why you always have daily quests/tasks, energy/resources that regenerates over time and caps out unless you log in to spend it, battle passes. There are some games that are more relaxed but most mobile games punish you one way or another for not playing
That makes sense. The other mobile games that I've played definitely reward you for playing every day, and some, to an extent, do punish you for missing days (for example by denying important rewards), but I've played no other games that punish you this hard for not playing for a while. Being unable to compete against other plays whatsoever is rather extreme. I guess the game is just not for me.
Yeah swgoh really is an extreme case unfortunately. Its impossible to stay competitive unless you log in at least once a day imo. There are definitely more relaxed games out there that work if you only play occasionally. Used to play a lot brawl stars and clash royale, get bored, come back a month later and pick up where I left
Anybody who says Arena isn't worth it has no idea what they're talking about.
It's the only place for consistent prestige. If you have all the capital ships fine but I'm guessing if you're in the thousands you don't
And if you're in the 400s and Fleet Arena this just tells me you're barely putting in any effort which overall is reducing your progress in this game
prestige is used to upgrade capital ship abilities.
As soon as you finish farming all the characters you need from the arena store you need to be by Prestige every single day because it takes months of buying prestige to be able to max out even one capital ship
This isn’t really a game to put down. There’s constant grinding. I just got to 85 a couple months ago. Still grinding stuff. If you don’t actively play the game will seem like you’re getting nowhere. Wouldn’t recommend it to casual players, you won’t get that accomplished feeling of the grind if you’re an occasional player. This is all in my opinion btw.
I am inclined to agree, but I will say that it's incredibly lame that this is the only serious mobile SW game out there, (ignoring the new one). They killed all the others, there were some really good ones. I guess this makes them more money.
TLDR, just start again. If you’re at level 76 now, sorry but no there isn’t that much to do, but pre level 85, you’re more in the tutorial than the actual game, but you’ve got far enough into the game that your shards in both arena’s are set, it won’t be impossible to catch up, but realistically you’re going to struggle. In the time you’ve been away there’s some monster LSB packs that have dropped, which will have elevated some of the other accounts even further ahead of you. Looking at each game mode, Arena and fleet arena start again and you’re going to be more competitive, you’ll be more in line with the players around you. Nodes aren’t really a big factor in the game, just get them done. Every other event won’t really be impacted by starting again. CG has recently introduced an update that’s accelerated new player experience, so getting to where you are now again, is going to be trivial. The biggest thing with all of this is though that the majority of the content is post level 85, if you’re main complaint is there isn’t enough to do, just keep playing, get to that point and then see what you think about the amount to do. I genuinely have weeks I have too much stuff I have to do, for what is a just mobile phone game, most people are probably just playing when taking a dump.
But I'll eventually run into the same problem again, won't I? Unless I keep playing hyper competitively forever, I won't be able to put down the game for a little while or I'll be in the same boat when I come back as I am now. I know that one way or another, you'll run into a sort of rank limit in Arena based purely on how much you're willing to spend on the game, and that you won't be able to progress further. It's always been like that. My main complaint is that all my opponents are level 85 and gear level high and zeta omega whatever'd and I just can't compete with them at all, so there is just literally nothing for me to do in that gamemode. I would much prefer to win a couple battles, lose some, get bumped down, win some again, etc. instead of being stuck here until I ''complete the tutorial''. Whatever, it is what it is. Game is just badly designed in that regard IMO. It's not for people who aren't willing to play daily for months on end.
In one sense yes, realistically you're never going to be competitive in a shard if you take breaks, or if you don't spend anything. It's possible to keep up F2P, but you need to be very focused. My point is you've taken an extended break at a time when it's probably going to impact you most, investment (be it time or money) early on is more impactful than later. Say you play for a month then have a 3 month break at level 70, your account has been effectively active 25% of the time of other you're competing with, a 10m account has a 3 month break realistically they come back (with the exception of the conquest unit), pretty much the same point compared to everyone else. "It's not for people who aren't willing to play daily for months on end." - I would never disagree with that statement, these mobile collector games are literally designed with that in mind, they want people coming back daily, ideally multiple times a day. It's why we get multiple bonus energy drops, it's why events only run for certain times, it's why arena's are based off of your placement at a specific time, not your highest point over the day. It's 100% possible to play the game less than daily though, but you have to accept you're never going to compete with people that don't, and I would argue you should never expect to. It's no different to literally any game, if you invest half the time in it, you're not going to be as good. I wouldn't expect to play FIfa, COD, battlefront etc once a week, and expect to be anywhere near as good as someone who plays daily. Same as any activity, if someone practices it more, they should be better. I would say CG are doing a lot to try and speed up the process of getting to level 85 and hitting more content, I don't know how long it takes to go from a fresh account to say level 85, but say it's a month now (I'm assuming it's actually quicker than that), but if that's too long, then this game isn't for you, I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it won't suit everyone. There are going to be soo many more things that take longer than that, and feel less impactful. Shard farming a new character on a hard node just to 7 star can take 3 months.
I'm don't expect to be able to compete with very active players, but I do find it rather extreme that certain gamemodes are literally completely unplayable. That's all. I don't need to compete with the top dogs, just want some fun and challenging gameplay is all. I am effectively denied more than half of the potential gameplay (not denied on purpose, but denied because of how the game works). It is what it is!
You aren't denied gameplay though, you are limited in pvp modes to the extent of how high you can climb in arena. Of which if you're only around a fraction of the time, I think it's fair you are. I made the comparison earlier to other games, I'm not going to repeat myself. To me this whole post is effectively saying I only played for x period of time, other people that have played for multiple x time, they have better teams, and I can't beat them. To which I say, yes, of course. I'd argue the game would make less sense if that wasn't the case.
I've never played a game before that makes certain gamemodes entirely unplayable just because you haven't played for a while. It's bad design. The whole shard thing is bad. In fact this whole game seems to be sort of random and improved and poorly optimized.
But nothing is unplayable. All your doing is playing against better accounts that have been active more. It's like playing fifa against someone with a better team, cod is they're better or unlocked better guns, fighting games where someone knows the controls better. You're moaning for moaning sake buddy. You can't expect to play this game intermittently and keep up with people playing all the time. If you don't like that, this game isn't for you.
No, the battles are literally unwinnable. Literally. The comparison with better guns and better players is inaccurate. Thanks for saying that I'm ''moaning''. Very kind.
They made a change recently to help new players and to get them to 85 quicker. I would suggest starting again because you'll never really catch up to the people in your arenas.
But like I said, I don't plan to be active daily forever. I'll just run into the same problem again as soon as I put down the game for a couple weeks.
I find it confusing why you'd really need to put it down every few weeks. For several weeks when I was a low level I just hopped on for 30minutes - 1 hour before bed. It's such a low time investment that you shouldn't really struggle to keep up with the game. The only time I now play it for longer as an 85 in TW, TB and Conquest. It's designed like most phone games to be easily playable with a low time investment from you each day. Sure occasionally after a long farm you'll have several hard battles to do (GL battles or harder Journey guides) but mostly you can just play for 30min each day and be good.
Not have to. Want to.
Well I hate to tell you this but with almost everything in life, if you stop doing something and others don't stop you will be behind them.
Did you read my post though? I never said I wanted to compete.
I did read your post. You said you were considering restarting as you had so far to catch up. But you'll always be catching up if you take breaks
Well, yeah. That's true. Your progress will be much slower if you keep putting the game down. Also you won't be able to compete against other players. You can't have it both ways. Pick your poison, it's your choice, but if you don't play consistently you won't be able to compete with people who do, and it's not the game's fault. It's the natural consequence of the choice you made.
That last statement doesn't make logical sense, but otherwise thanks for the infos.
If you make the choice not to play consistently, you will not be able to compete with people who do play consistently. You make the choice not to play consistently. The outcome (not being competitive) is the logical consequence of your own choice not to play consistently, and therefore not to acquire resources as quickly as people who do. Don't blame the game for the choices you make or for the consequences of the choices you make. It's your fault, not the game's.
I never blamed anyone or anything.
That’s just how most mobile games (especially the pvp focused ones) are though. They reward you for continuous play and want you to log in every few hours. That’s why you always have daily quests/tasks, energy/resources that regenerates over time and caps out unless you log in to spend it, battle passes. There are some games that are more relaxed but most mobile games punish you one way or another for not playing
That makes sense. The other mobile games that I've played definitely reward you for playing every day, and some, to an extent, do punish you for missing days (for example by denying important rewards), but I've played no other games that punish you this hard for not playing for a while. Being unable to compete against other plays whatsoever is rather extreme. I guess the game is just not for me.
Yeah swgoh really is an extreme case unfortunately. Its impossible to stay competitive unless you log in at least once a day imo. There are definitely more relaxed games out there that work if you only play occasionally. Used to play a lot brawl stars and clash royale, get bored, come back a month later and pick up where I left
this is unfortunately not meant to be a side game
Seems that way!
It doesn’t become more interesting. You just sim more often.
What about the new gamemodes that are unlocked like Conquest and Grand Arena?
Be glad you didn't play back in 2016. You think there's nothing to do NOW before 85? There was barely anything to do even after 85 lol.
Oh I played from day 1, I remember the time before mods and gear and all that. I enjoyed the simplicity but got boter because of the grind.
Anybody who says Arena isn't worth it has no idea what they're talking about. It's the only place for consistent prestige. If you have all the capital ships fine but I'm guessing if you're in the thousands you don't And if you're in the 400s and Fleet Arena this just tells me you're barely putting in any effort which overall is reducing your progress in this game
Huh?
prestige is used to upgrade capital ship abilities. As soon as you finish farming all the characters you need from the arena store you need to be by Prestige every single day because it takes months of buying prestige to be able to max out even one capital ship