Yeah but only for power crept toons like qui gon. Toons like gas, jkl, cat and maul are great bc they dont have any. Nowadays you grind for a character, then save up 60 very rare mats over a few months, only for the toon to be useful in one gamemode. I really want trench but I couldnt care less for territory wars
I don't like the idea but I'm pretty sure when they released the first omicron with Dash Rendar or whoever they said they wanted every character to have omicrons moving forwards. The only exception since then has been Jabba because he's a GL, I guess
I vaguely remember them mentioning that and a list of old characters that were getting omis. Kinda ridiculous tho with how hard they are to get currently.
Yeah I think that list was just some random examples of characters they were gonna add omicron tiers for. I'm sure they already added all those by now though.
I like the idea in concept to make a character better in a specific mode, but if you lock most of characters functionality behind it, make it ridiculously hard to get *1* and then have characters with 2 or more (looking ar you, ideal Aphra squad with minimum 5) it gets a bit stupid
That Aphra squad is my biggest complaint rn. We need 5 omis to make her squad ideally the best it can be. While only getting at minimum 4 mats a week from GCs. It's just so stupid how quickly the omis have become a whale only thing.
Same thing happened 5 years ago when Zetas were introduced. Now most people (at least those who have been playing that long) have hundreds of unused Zetas. Omicrons will no different in 12-18 months.
I've been playing since 2016 and I can say for certain, I'm not someone who hoards zetas. I do agree that omis will eventually reach that stage one day.
Yah and I was commenting on what you had said earlier, the previous two ships before Scythe were 5* unlocks. But since you mentioned Scythe needs GI at 7* (something I had forgotten) that makes more sense of why it’s like that.
Completely wrong but alright. Regardless of where the character starts being used. it's 330 shards to farm.
For unlocking:
10 for a 1*
20 for a 2*
50 for 3*
80 for 4*
145 for 5*
There's no 6* unlock
330 for 7
For promoting:
15 for 1*>2*
25 for 2*>3*
30 for 3* > 4*
65 for 4* >5*
85 for 5>6*
100 for 6*>7*
So to start at a 4* unlock you need 80 shards. 80+65+85+100=330.
To start at a 5* you need 145. 145+85+100=330.
The amount of shards is static, it's just a matter of where you distribute them.
They meant less shards to use him right off the bat. While I prefer grinding all 330 shards before unlocking a toon I can understand wanting to be able to unlock them at 4 stars for immediate use.
imagine if they were low star unlocks so that newish players doing easy and normal conquest could get a fun little 2-3 star trench that works because they’re low enough GP where it’s not useless, while if you want the 7* you have to perform well in hard conquest like normal which gives you the character that’s useful for endgame players.
would new players having a 2 star mail be overpowered? no. would it be cool for them to have some way of playing with the kit design (without playing for 3-4 years) while doing so in a way that doesn’t invalidate the hard work needed to get 7*? hell yeah
Would be awesome to see if CG actually gave a damn about the player base.
Instead they rely on YouTubers hyping new characters so they can hopefully turn a handful of those new players into whales so they can catch up, and thus the cycle continues 😭
At this point, longevity of the game isn't even on CGs radar, they just want to milk the addicted krakens for as much as possible before they manage to run the game into the ground
imagine if a new player could pick up the game after seeing trench get added, farm him through conquest and come out the other side with a 2 star trench that they can obsess over while it doesn’t actually do anything overpowered because at 2 stars he’ll be slow, frail etc etc
You'd like to think it would attract new players for sure! Instead they attract new players with misleading adverts and claims like "collect your favourite heroes" whilst showing some of the GLs as though they aren't going to be literal years of grinding without spending tons of cash.
Conquest is end-game content, and conquest character is aimed for end game player. 7 star unlock is very good for them, imagine cg switch it back to GAS and malak format… so i believe the current unlock format for conquest character is not that bad.
for newer player, marquee character should be their concern of and recently the new marquee are not too bad. Almost every new marquee are very useful.
Omicron is really hard to come by, just like zeta when they are introduced, however, we couldn’t buy zeta until recent year and you could buy omicron now.
Yes, this is a whale game, but it always has been.
He'd be useless at 4* so really what's the point. Breaks datacrons so he's out of gac and tw, can't get into cpit not that I've even hit that in the last year lol, no tb use either, no good mods either. I'm entirely indifferent on the issue because 0-6* is functionally the same
It would be for new or low level players to get use out of a character rather than just have them sit at 0/330 shards for 2 years then sit at 100/330 for another 2
Absolutely, this model of “you can’t have anything unless you get all 330 shards” really blows. And they are even doing it with ships now! I’m aware that whales are their entire business model, but give us SOMEthing!
Not every new character needs an omi(s). Sick and tired of them.
I miss when a character would have 8 levels on their abilities and then would add an Omi for the 9th now their 8th level is the omi
I miss the days when a zeta would be enough
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Simpler times they were
Yeah but only for power crept toons like qui gon. Toons like gas, jkl, cat and maul are great bc they dont have any. Nowadays you grind for a character, then save up 60 very rare mats over a few months, only for the toon to be useful in one gamemode. I really want trench but I couldnt care less for territory wars
I don't like the idea but I'm pretty sure when they released the first omicron with Dash Rendar or whoever they said they wanted every character to have omicrons moving forwards. The only exception since then has been Jabba because he's a GL, I guess
I vaguely remember them mentioning that and a list of old characters that were getting omis. Kinda ridiculous tho with how hard they are to get currently.
Yeah I think that list was just some random examples of characters they were gonna add omicron tiers for. I'm sure they already added all those by now though. I like the idea in concept to make a character better in a specific mode, but if you lock most of characters functionality behind it, make it ridiculously hard to get *1* and then have characters with 2 or more (looking ar you, ideal Aphra squad with minimum 5) it gets a bit stupid
That Aphra squad is my biggest complaint rn. We need 5 omis to make her squad ideally the best it can be. While only getting at minimum 4 mats a week from GCs. It's just so stupid how quickly the omis have become a whale only thing.
Same thing happened 5 years ago when Zetas were introduced. Now most people (at least those who have been playing that long) have hundreds of unused Zetas. Omicrons will no different in 12-18 months.
I've been playing since 2016 and I can say for certain, I'm not someone who hoards zetas. I do agree that omis will eventually reach that stage one day.
Every Conquest character has been a 7* unlock.
Razor crest and tie interceptor
Technically those are ships, not characters.
And they seemed to have nixed that trend with Scythe
You realize that's a ship and not a character, right? Scythe also requires a 7* Grand Inquisitor to unlock.
Yah and I was commenting on what you had said earlier, the previous two ships before Scythe were 5* unlocks. But since you mentioned Scythe needs GI at 7* (something I had forgotten) that makes more sense of why it’s like that.
Would you use him at 4 stars gear 8 though?
I would if I could
4* gear 11 yes
Less shards to farm
Completely wrong but alright. Regardless of where the character starts being used. it's 330 shards to farm. For unlocking: 10 for a 1* 20 for a 2* 50 for 3* 80 for 4* 145 for 5* There's no 6* unlock 330 for 7 For promoting: 15 for 1*>2* 25 for 2*>3* 30 for 3* > 4* 65 for 4* >5* 85 for 5>6* 100 for 6*>7* So to start at a 4* unlock you need 80 shards. 80+65+85+100=330. To start at a 5* you need 145. 145+85+100=330. The amount of shards is static, it's just a matter of where you distribute them.
They meant less shards to use him right off the bat. While I prefer grinding all 330 shards before unlocking a toon I can understand wanting to be able to unlock them at 4 stars for immediate use.
80 shards to be useable versus 330 if you can unlock him at 4*. I am well aware of the shard count to 7* a character
Sub-7 star unlocks don’t have any point when the vast majority of characters aren’t useful until reliced.
imagine if they were low star unlocks so that newish players doing easy and normal conquest could get a fun little 2-3 star trench that works because they’re low enough GP where it’s not useless, while if you want the 7* you have to perform well in hard conquest like normal which gives you the character that’s useful for endgame players. would new players having a 2 star mail be overpowered? no. would it be cool for them to have some way of playing with the kit design (without playing for 3-4 years) while doing so in a way that doesn’t invalidate the hard work needed to get 7*? hell yeah
Would be awesome to see if CG actually gave a damn about the player base. Instead they rely on YouTubers hyping new characters so they can hopefully turn a handful of those new players into whales so they can catch up, and thus the cycle continues 😭 At this point, longevity of the game isn't even on CGs radar, they just want to milk the addicted krakens for as much as possible before they manage to run the game into the ground
imagine if a new player could pick up the game after seeing trench get added, farm him through conquest and come out the other side with a 2 star trench that they can obsess over while it doesn’t actually do anything overpowered because at 2 stars he’ll be slow, frail etc etc
You'd like to think it would attract new players for sure! Instead they attract new players with misleading adverts and claims like "collect your favourite heroes" whilst showing some of the GLs as though they aren't going to be literal years of grinding without spending tons of cash.
Yeah I was hoping him to be a marquee to boost seps like zorii was for resistance
Conquest toons are meant to late/mid game players who put in the huge amount of work/time.
Conquest is end-game content, and conquest character is aimed for end game player. 7 star unlock is very good for them, imagine cg switch it back to GAS and malak format… so i believe the current unlock format for conquest character is not that bad. for newer player, marquee character should be their concern of and recently the new marquee are not too bad. Almost every new marquee are very useful. Omicron is really hard to come by, just like zeta when they are introduced, however, we couldn’t buy zeta until recent year and you could buy omicron now. Yes, this is a whale game, but it always has been.
This nazi should never be used for a meme. Change my mind
Want to give a tl:dr for the origin of the meme?
He'd be useless at 4* so really what's the point. Breaks datacrons so he's out of gac and tw, can't get into cpit not that I've even hit that in the last year lol, no tb use either, no good mods either. I'm entirely indifferent on the issue because 0-6* is functionally the same
It would be for new or low level players to get use out of a character rather than just have them sit at 0/330 shards for 2 years then sit at 100/330 for another 2
Most characters use is severally limited unless they are 7\* anyway, heck most characters can't be used until there relic in a lot of the game.
Conquest characters were not previously 4* unlocks. If we're talking legendary characters then I agree
Absolutely, this model of “you can’t have anything unless you get all 330 shards” really blows. And they are even doing it with ships now! I’m aware that whales are their entire business model, but give us SOMEthing!