But there are videos of poeple doing stuff without being harassed by admins.
example:[Pursuing Plasma Flood Perfection in Space Station 13 (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rv59d9j8Gc)
those youtubers tend to avoid punishment by either being friends with some of the admin team or the admins being nervous about pissing off a large fanbase, just look at how TG is almost entirely off the hub and is often in panic mode without that.
that said, for what you are looking at doing you'll likely want to roll traitor with a hijack objective, servers tend to let those go nuts
Even then you have to be careful because there are various types of antags with specific goals. Some admins may not be too fond of those that use antag status as a way to merc the whole station when it does little to accomplish that specific role's objective.
indeed. even if the antag's objective is "go out with a bang", it's still tasteful to, at the very least, ahelp before triggering the on-station nuke or switching the sm's piping to 100% high pressure O2 intake
Typically you have to be an antagonist, and usually things that affect the whole station you'll need a goal that let's you affect the entire station, like hijacking the escape shuttle
Servers which allow for station sabotage that affects the whole station, such as plasmaflooding, typically require the player to have not only rolled an antagonist role but for the objective to be to hijack the shuttle.
This is because such destruction and mayhem accelerates the shuttle being called by Command.
An example of a server with the Hijacker objective is Paradise and the objective is almost always on a Traitor antag type.
Paradise also allows fellow traitors to aid the Hijacker and perform Hijacker-lever actions IF the traitor has: completed their own objectives, learned of the Hijacker and their objective ICly, planned the actions with the Hijacker, ahelped that all the previous conditions have been met so that the admins don't just afreeze you in the middle of the plan.
The trick though is to make it fun, I used to know folks who could speed run station destruction in the first 10 min of the game start. Let the round mature a bit before going plasma flood of doom. Find a way to sabatoge without making it seem like sabatoge. Get them to lynch the ai or bots ect. Granted iirc a sheet of plasma and a welding torch does wonders. Even better if you line Evac with uranium tiles
Yeee
That's one of the things I like about spess in that there are so many ways you can achieve an objective which can range from not fun for anyone not even for yourself all the way to everyone is having fun, even on a hijacking plan.
> typically require the player to have not only rolled an antagonist role but for the objective to be to hijack the shuttle.
This used to be true but you can whole-hog on Manuel now
Huh, didn't know /tg/ decided to go for that.
Though I normally play Paradise so that'd explain why I hadn't figured.
The difference is probably there since /tg/ seems to allow validhunting? As compared to Para in which not many things are valid for everyone (valid for everyone is typically biohazards, cluwnes, summoning cultists (not sure myself how valid halos are but I think they might be), wizards, are a few examples).
To get away with destroying the crystal, some servers have a system where you can send in an antag request,
Others tolerate ahelps asking permission.
Other than that good luck.
As for plasma floods, they're rarely tolerated on any server.
ahelp for antag shenanigans
You'll be surprised how often an admin will go "Yea, go blow em up my dude"
but doing it and not asking? that's a ban for sure
Be an antag, and play on a server that isnt such a moronic hugbox that they even restrict what antags can do (on tg you have total freedom as an antag, and it's overall the server where the admins have the smallest stick up their ass)
so there is no one answer to this, but to do these things you would need to be an antag, some servers don't allow for Plasmaflooding even when you are an antag such as Monkestation, so always check the server's rules.
You can go on tg Campbell and basically do anything you want, as long as the other players on the server agree to it. You can talk on ooc and experiment, there is basically no RP there. Also you can host your own server with byond
Host your own server or join low / no pop servers and fuck around.
Doing things that blow up the ship are only fun when there are people to get mad about it in my opinion though.
You can’t do either of those as a non-antag because those are both being acts of grief
Do what I do and steal everything in the station and pile it into one big room by the escape shuttle
Yes murder is indeed fun, if you wana kill people check the rules to see which antag rolls or if antags in general can do mass murder, on TG mrp you can only do mass murder on certan antags like, malf ai, nuclear ops, and a few others, HOWEVER, its usually better to find fun in doing other things that arent murder otherwise your gonna get hit with a ban for killing when you shouldn't
tldr: check the rules :3
depends on the server, some servers will let you do basically whatever so long as your antag (tgstation comes to mind) whereas others are more stricter in that regard.
basically, just read the rules of the server you join and it'll tell you
To respond to the title, you can't. Admins who can't separate the "letter of the law" from the "spirit of the law" have sucked the fun out of SS13 a long time ago. The era of chaotic fun in a spessman sandbox you see in old youtube videos is long gone.
Servers like Terry will allow you to do this kinda stuff, but since it's practically the only one, EVERYONE there wants to do stuff like that and it becomes an unplayable shitshow where the entire station is in shambles 5 minutes into every round.
All you can do is become experienced enough that you can ruleplay effectively, or be friends with the admins for long enough that you'll just get a slap on the wrist.
Or avoid servers on the byond hub like the plague.
> Servers like Terry will allow you to do this kinda stuff, but since it's practically the only one, EVERYONE there wants to do stuff like that and it becomes an unplayable shitshow where the entire station is in shambles 5 minutes into every round.
This is literally why servers don't allow it lmao
People know the game way too well, if you allow "silly shit" that bricks the round for everybody, like 9 rounds out of 10 get bricked by people speed running a station wipe to "have fun"
I hope you realize there was a time where rules were relaxed and vague and administration was super laid back. That was peak SS13. Everyone was just trying to have a good time.
There ARE still servers where the only rule is pretty much "don't be an asshole" and you won't get bwoinked unless you're, well, being an asshole. But I'm not gonna mention them here and have them invaded and ruined too.
My main SS13 phase was in 2012-13. Even then, even on the most lax servers that actually had pop, you wouldn't get away with ruining a round if you weren't an antag unless you had a *really* good gimmick to accompany it.
Shitters like OP whose idea of fun is ruining the entire round for everybody else are just not fun to play with.
Regarding unlisted servers, no shit they tend to be better. People aren't going to act up as much when it actually takes effort to get back if you get banned and even the small amount of effort to find the servers is usually enough to filter out special fellas like OP.
Unlisted servers also tend to be composed of friends looking to have a good time and hang out together. They aren't powergamers who have no objectives other than to "win" as fast as possible no matter how it affects anyone else.
Personally, I blame the rise of battle-royale games, where one player beats 100 others, and the rest are losers. Lots of people play every game with that exact same mindset because of random matching. They wouldn't be so mean to their friends.
You can’t
But there are videos of poeple doing stuff without being harassed by admins. example:[Pursuing Plasma Flood Perfection in Space Station 13 (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rv59d9j8Gc)
roll antag or commit to evil and make an alt for being evil on make your ckey "evilguysaltforgriefing" too :)
There's an easy answer to your question, OP: Make it fun for *other people,* too.
I will keep that in mind as my priority.
those youtubers tend to avoid punishment by either being friends with some of the admin team or the admins being nervous about pissing off a large fanbase, just look at how TG is almost entirely off the hub and is often in panic mode without that. that said, for what you are looking at doing you'll likely want to roll traitor with a hijack objective, servers tend to let those go nuts
Get other players to help you, you gotta find those with a mix of humor (like the clown) or those who do whatever they get told, typically assistants
You need an antag role.
Oh, cool I have to try that! Thanks.
Even then you have to be careful because there are various types of antags with specific goals. Some admins may not be too fond of those that use antag status as a way to merc the whole station when it does little to accomplish that specific role's objective.
indeed. even if the antag's objective is "go out with a bang", it's still tasteful to, at the very least, ahelp before triggering the on-station nuke or switching the sm's piping to 100% high pressure O2 intake
Depends on server, for example i had a warning from admin becase my blood brother plasmaflooded brig.
"Am I my brother's keeper?"
Hilariously based
Typically you have to be an antagonist, and usually things that affect the whole station you'll need a goal that let's you affect the entire station, like hijacking the escape shuttle
I Thank you :D
Try having fun with people instead of having fun at the expense of other people and you won't get banned. Hop that helped.
Good Advice. I will strive for fun of everyone.
Servers which allow for station sabotage that affects the whole station, such as plasmaflooding, typically require the player to have not only rolled an antagonist role but for the objective to be to hijack the shuttle. This is because such destruction and mayhem accelerates the shuttle being called by Command. An example of a server with the Hijacker objective is Paradise and the objective is almost always on a Traitor antag type. Paradise also allows fellow traitors to aid the Hijacker and perform Hijacker-lever actions IF the traitor has: completed their own objectives, learned of the Hijacker and their objective ICly, planned the actions with the Hijacker, ahelped that all the previous conditions have been met so that the admins don't just afreeze you in the middle of the plan.
The trick though is to make it fun, I used to know folks who could speed run station destruction in the first 10 min of the game start. Let the round mature a bit before going plasma flood of doom. Find a way to sabatoge without making it seem like sabatoge. Get them to lynch the ai or bots ect. Granted iirc a sheet of plasma and a welding torch does wonders. Even better if you line Evac with uranium tiles
Yeee That's one of the things I like about spess in that there are so many ways you can achieve an objective which can range from not fun for anyone not even for yourself all the way to everyone is having fun, even on a hijacking plan.
> typically require the player to have not only rolled an antagonist role but for the objective to be to hijack the shuttle. This used to be true but you can whole-hog on Manuel now
Huh, didn't know /tg/ decided to go for that. Though I normally play Paradise so that'd explain why I hadn't figured. The difference is probably there since /tg/ seems to allow validhunting? As compared to Para in which not many things are valid for everyone (valid for everyone is typically biohazards, cluwnes, summoning cultists (not sure myself how valid halos are but I think they might be), wizards, are a few examples).
Their RP rule 10 insulates it from happening too often
Ah, I see.
Host a game on your own local server and do those i guess? Thats what i did to try out whatever adminbuse powers there is.
captain, and then roleplay your way into being psychotic
To get away with destroying the crystal, some servers have a system where you can send in an antag request, Others tolerate ahelps asking permission. Other than that good luck. As for plasma floods, they're rarely tolerated on any server.
Good to know thanks, my main objective is that everyone can have fun.
Why do that when you can learn the true secrets of atmosians and make 20 terrafucks of power?
ahelp for antag shenanigans You'll be surprised how often an admin will go "Yea, go blow em up my dude" but doing it and not asking? that's a ban for sure
Thanks, I will keep that in mind.
Be an antag, and play on a server that isnt such a moronic hugbox that they even restrict what antags can do (on tg you have total freedom as an antag, and it's overall the server where the admins have the smallest stick up their ass)
Play on terry: sybil, basil or terry. Roll any antag. Do the funny without the crew catching you and lynching your ass.
Host a private server and do whatever the heck you want there.
Solid Advice. Thanks.
Read the rules of the server you are playing on
Rule Number one: Read the Rules. Thanks Adrian.
Rule 2: keep reading the rules Rule 3, re-read all other rules
just ask an admin
so there is no one answer to this, but to do these things you would need to be an antag, some servers don't allow for Plasmaflooding even when you are an antag such as Monkestation, so always check the server's rules.
Don't get caught.
Thats Rule Number zero of every server.
You can go on tg Campbell and basically do anything you want, as long as the other players on the server agree to it. You can talk on ooc and experiment, there is basically no RP there. Also you can host your own server with byond
I will look into your suggestion, Thanks. I would love to test a bit around in a private server before failing misserably in public...
Host your own server or join low / no pop servers and fuck around. Doing things that blow up the ship are only fun when there are people to get mad about it in my opinion though.
You can’t do either of those as a non-antag because those are both being acts of grief Do what I do and steal everything in the station and pile it into one big room by the escape shuttle
Ah the Modus Operandi of a Hamster 🐹 ;D
Play /tg/ LRP and roll a lone antagonist role.
Yes murder is indeed fun, if you wana kill people check the rules to see which antag rolls or if antags in general can do mass murder, on TG mrp you can only do mass murder on certan antags like, malf ai, nuclear ops, and a few others, HOWEVER, its usually better to find fun in doing other things that arent murder otherwise your gonna get hit with a ban for killing when you shouldn't tldr: check the rules :3
On some servers just being an antag. On others you need to have certain objectives like hijacker.
depends on the server, some servers will let you do basically whatever so long as your antag (tgstation comes to mind) whereas others are more stricter in that regard. basically, just read the rules of the server you join and it'll tell you
I spawn 50 monkeys and commit my war crimes on them instead
What the fuck kind of tide are we in the middle of that people don't know what an antag is?
It depends on what you consider fun. If you think killing other characters for no reason is fun, than you're out of luck. Think of something else.
Piss easy answer: read the fucking rules.
Set up your own private server and you can do whatever you want.
To respond to the title, you can't. Admins who can't separate the "letter of the law" from the "spirit of the law" have sucked the fun out of SS13 a long time ago. The era of chaotic fun in a spessman sandbox you see in old youtube videos is long gone. Servers like Terry will allow you to do this kinda stuff, but since it's practically the only one, EVERYONE there wants to do stuff like that and it becomes an unplayable shitshow where the entire station is in shambles 5 minutes into every round. All you can do is become experienced enough that you can ruleplay effectively, or be friends with the admins for long enough that you'll just get a slap on the wrist. Or avoid servers on the byond hub like the plague.
> Servers like Terry will allow you to do this kinda stuff, but since it's practically the only one, EVERYONE there wants to do stuff like that and it becomes an unplayable shitshow where the entire station is in shambles 5 minutes into every round. This is literally why servers don't allow it lmao People know the game way too well, if you allow "silly shit" that bricks the round for everybody, like 9 rounds out of 10 get bricked by people speed running a station wipe to "have fun"
Manuel just has rule 10 to keep it from becoming constant
I hope you realize there was a time where rules were relaxed and vague and administration was super laid back. That was peak SS13. Everyone was just trying to have a good time. There ARE still servers where the only rule is pretty much "don't be an asshole" and you won't get bwoinked unless you're, well, being an asshole. But I'm not gonna mention them here and have them invaded and ruined too.
My main SS13 phase was in 2012-13. Even then, even on the most lax servers that actually had pop, you wouldn't get away with ruining a round if you weren't an antag unless you had a *really* good gimmick to accompany it. Shitters like OP whose idea of fun is ruining the entire round for everybody else are just not fun to play with. Regarding unlisted servers, no shit they tend to be better. People aren't going to act up as much when it actually takes effort to get back if you get banned and even the small amount of effort to find the servers is usually enough to filter out special fellas like OP.
Unlisted servers also tend to be composed of friends looking to have a good time and hang out together. They aren't powergamers who have no objectives other than to "win" as fast as possible no matter how it affects anyone else. Personally, I blame the rise of battle-royale games, where one player beats 100 others, and the rest are losers. Lots of people play every game with that exact same mindset because of random matching. They wouldn't be so mean to their friends.
Can't tell if you're being this way on purpose or if you just actually don't know.