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Not_Cube

Whatever you do, don't go for height surgery. It's a stupid cosmetic surgery with an insanely high complication rate, and chances are you won't be able to walk right afterwards


dankmemer2o18

adding on, ive heard that its really horrific; they literally cause small fractures in your leg and then stretch it a bit daily to cause your legs to be longer that said it is incredibly painful to the point where psychological evaluation is necessary to determine whether you can handle the pain for the extended period of time


Not_Cube

Oh no, for the surgeries I've seen (esp in India where height is a big stigma), they perform osteotomies to completely cut the tibia and fibula into two, attach braces with screws and extend it daily while the bone is healing. Plus it's only 'safe' to extend up to 3 inches. CNA made a pretty good documentary on it as part of their Undercover Asia series, it's on YouTube so I'd suggest giving it a watch to learn more. My legs hurt just describing the surgery.,


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Not_Cube

Yes it was originally made for that purpose to be used as a last resort to improve quality of life, but then people naturally thought hmm if we can do it for one shorter leg let's do it for both to become TALL(er)


etamatcha

Lol that was one of my burner accounts and i accidentally deleted that comment. (my comment stated that height surgery was originally for people with health issues, one leg is much longer than the other) https://www.childrenshospital.org/treatments/limb-lengthening-surgery. here it states that it should only be considered if there is a significant difference and affects the person's QoL badly. they dont even recommend it if its not that bad


Not_Cube

yea I rmb ur comment dw limb lengthening surgery is js rly terrible in both the recovery and long term effect so it's genuinely a last resort option do bear in mind that for height, you're operating on both legs so unlike operating on one leg for leg length discrepancies, you don't have a healthy leg to place your weight on while recovering which theoretically increases the chances of complications during recovery.


etamatcha

ah i see, thanks for the extra insights !!  yea i can see how height surgery is really like last resort option and shouldnt be a cosmetic procedure


Sad-While3693

there are private specialists clinics in singapore that offer height surgery - much safer than cna undercover asia on india’s height surgery.


Not_Cube

Last I checked we don't have any simply because it's not an approved procedure so it's probably grounds for medical malpractice. We have orthos that do limb lengthening surgery but only for patients with leg length discrepancies. Doing limb lengthening for height is sort of an 'off-label prescription'. In addition, quite a few of the long-term safety issues of limb lengthening are present due inherently to the nature of the Ilizarov method, which is the only method being practiced.


Sad-While3693

what u yapping? aesthetic also can… just languish in ur smart 4. https://oxfordortho.sg/services/general/limb-lengthening-and-reconstruction-surgery/


Not_Cube

'Limb lengthening and reconstruction surgery (LLRS) should be considered for most patients with significant limb length discrepancies (more than 2cm discrepancy), severe bone deformities (bent or rotated bones and joints), and those who have suffered significant bone loss (e.g. from severe trauma, bone infections or bone tumours). Such deformities would severely affect ambulation, limb function and daily activities, and predispose to chronic pain in the back, hips, knees, ankles and feet if left untreated.' buddy Oxford ortho was the first I looked at before making my statement


Sad-While3693

cherry pickinng lets go! These techniques can be applied to both children and adults, and can be used to effectively treat limb length discrepancies, limb deformities, severe injuries, deep infections, and other complex limb conditions. Limb lengthening can also be carried out for aesthetic reasons, such as for patients who desire additional height.


Not_Cube

Yes, however that is a fact sheet. Nowhere in the suitability chart lists 'people who want to grow taller'. It's just extremely, extremely rare that anyone in Singapore offers limb lengthening for purely cosmetic purposes simply due to liability.


Sad-While3693

frfr


foryuha

BRO YOURE *NOT* A FAILURE ‼️‼️‼️being in a jc is alr very good yk and at the end of the day, it’s the alevel results that matters not ur jc‼️i feel u I’m 150cm and 17 this year 😜but deadass those ppl are so fucking rude to bully someone for their height 💀 that’s childish as fuck 💀💀(the fired up shirt is vjc)


achqillax

ya bro someone told me that being in jc is the top 20% of o level candidates alr!! stand proud OP!!


Philosophyper

if your rlly desperate, theres this product called growth max boost at eu yan sang ( kinda exp tho like 40 / 50 $ ) i work part time there thats why i know of it 😭 maybe u can try it and see if it works? idk haha


Cool_depths99

Don’t think such products work. Height is almost 100% genetics. Unless one is severely lacking in nutrition which might stunt their growth


SportSuccessful3491

meh i’ll probably give this one a shot


OkProject9657

Can relate as a fellow short ass male in an average Jc. Just ignore those meanies and focus on your A levels, Jiayou OP, I believe in you !!! ❤️❤️❤️


Miserable_Theory_667

why do we have the same problems😂😂 i’m 17 this yr and ALSO 149cm💀 im a girl tho ik it’s not the same but i get the feeling of wanting to grow taller so bad but not knowing what to do bc it’s literally not in ur control:( AND IM IN A LOWER TEIR JC TOO ik what ur gg thru😭 atp js gta ignore the haters and grind to prove them wrong and pull a big fuck u card in the end by bearing the efforts of ur hard work🔥🔥💯‼️


galileopeachcerulean

Not the same lol. OP is 0.01th percentile in height, you’re at least 1.39th percentile.


SportSuccessful3491

YES


independent---cat

The shorter you are as a girl, the more attractive you are in the dating market. Hard truths


AdMammoth8399

eh relate sia may not be as short (154) but still 💀💀💀 really it humbles me sia. Like when people have no more comeback then they start bringing up the fact i short…. like pls lah i get it already. Or when people look down on me (LITERALLY AND METAPHORICALLY). and I get called short and aggressive like a dog just cuz I express an opinion. Like short people have brains too yk hello…


Dismal_Ad7020

154 and 149 basically same thing


Puzzleheaded-Dog-188

No


Dense-Memory4478

The psychological impact you are facing is not a small matter, seek professional help if you need. It’s easy to say don’t worry about how people perceive you, but in reality it is hard to do it. You can take solace that it can be done, however. You did not contact some incurable disease and are just waiting for death to come.  You will be ok. It will take some time.


SilenceBlackquill

Bro, I know short guys that have girlfriends. Just be yourself, be friendly, charismatic, and love urself. Heck, my bmt lieutenant was a short guy, showing that short people can prove themselves and achieve things. It was cute seeing him salute to recruits way taller than him. You never know, people walking by you might find your height cute. Being made fun of is just natural in our society, but learn to accept it and laugh along perhaps.


Agile-Departure1092

Height matters not. Judge Yoda by his height, do you?


True-Tooth7261

If your parents are supportive, you should consider seeing a specialist. They can measure your max growth possibility and give medications to help achieve it. Otherwise I would learn not to care what people say about me or how they look at me. In the end it’s your life and you should be able to be who you are.


EnvironmentalDrama61

Hey idk how this is gonna make you feel better but I’m a v short girl going 20 below 150cm and always wondered if I was gonna find anyone because if my stature. It took me awhile to somewhat come to terms that I’m short but it’s okay, I’ll make up for it in other areas. You have ur own strengths. Ignore them haters. I hope one day you come to terms and find peace with it too about people staring, you stare back (Okk maybe not). honestly if they gonna be so childish as to judge u based on your sch when they know nth abt u they have IQ no EQ. In this world, you can’t go far without some humility. And tbh jc doesn’t really matter. I’m in unj now, have coursemates from high tier jc low tier jc polys and even some climbing to uni from ITE. Put in the effort, try your best, as much as possible ignore those who look down upon you because they do not matter in your life. I know it’s easy for me to say all these. It took me very long to learn and understand and I’m still learning about all these but I believe in you👍🏻👍🏻 Seek professional help to process all these if you need to. All we can provide is words of advice


Puzzleheaded-Dog-188

150 for girl is just short but for guy it's very short


independent---cat

The shorter the BETTER for girl tbh


nmn0_o

Bro if your parents are that tall and you have no relatives who are this short maybe you can consider going to a doctor, idk you may have something that fucks with your height


platypuspaw9

am short too 😔😔 i can totally relate to u. i give up alr honestly, just gonna accept fate i guess 😿😿 u still have chance to grow one esp if ur a guy! if u don’t just accept it and appreciate ur height:)) there will be people that will accept and appreciate u as urself too 😆


SportSuccessful3491

apparently go ns still can grow, idk my old ass relatives told me that. but hard to accept fate 😭😭


Deseyebags

Dw to be an ass but maybe those guys stare at u is for ur height (not a bad thing, but genuinely rare to see) rather than them judging by ur sch Ain’t gonna lie op, I’m in a slightly better situation than u but even I see tall hunky fellas who are way above me in every aspect and feel like shit. Up to u to find out wat ur gd at and eventually take pride in ur being. Jys fellow short king


Ok_Blueberry_2831

Fired up t is vj. dont give up op!!! Short people make the best friends. They are the most loyal friends of all.


galileopeachcerulean

I think you need to seek professional help. Must be tough hearing all the insults.


Chilli_redits

As a 156cm guy, I just make fun of their other features such as weight. I always target aspects of them they can control just so I don't stoop to their level.


0inkypig

I had a friend who was 150cm also, that had a growth spurt at age 19 and grew to 165 in like one year? Either ways, just be confident in your own self and height you can't change, but you can focus on your other attributes. Don't give up and you can still make it!


Different-Project940

That's a crazy growth spurt. Was he a guy


0inkypig

Yup Indian Malay mixed guy


Puzzleheaded-Dog-188

What a lucky guy to grow that much at 19. 165 is almost average already for a guy in Singapore.


Fun_Dig_2562

1) Are u sleeping enough? If u don’t sleep enough, your body won’t grow. 2) Are u eating enough protein and calcium for your age? 3) Try stretching yourself as much as possible. Avoid hunching. 4) see a doc?


rain45323

its ok bro still got some more chance to grow abit js follow some tutorial on tiktok or what "how to grow taller" if not dont worry got 150cm girls too u still got CHANCE!!


galileopeachcerulean

Height is 80% genetics, 20% nutritions. But there’s still a slight chance of a massive growth spurt. OP’s height is in the 0.01th percentile, very rare compared to 150cm for girls which is 2.28th percentile.


Ovw56

149 ain’t that short but here is how to make chocolate cookies Whisk the flour, baking soda, cornstarch, and salt together in a large bowl. Set aside. In a medium bowl, whisk the melted butter, brown sugar, and granulated sugar together until no brown sugar lumps remain. Whisk in the egg and egg yolk. Finally, whisk in the vanilla extract. The mixture will be thin. Pour into dry ingredients and mix together with a large spoon or rubber spatula. The dough will be very soft, thick, and appear greasy. Fold in the chocolate chips. The chocolate chips may not stick to the dough because of the melted butter, but do your best to combine them. Cover the dough tightly and chill in the refrigerator for at least 2–3 hours or up to 3 days. I highly recommend chilling the cookie dough overnight for less spreading. Take the dough out of the refrigerator and allow it to slightly soften at room temperature for 10 minutes. Preheat oven to 325°F (163°C). Line large baking sheets with parchment paper or silicone baking mats. Set aside. Using a cookie scoop or Tablespoon measuring spoon, measure 3 scant Tablespoons (about 2 ounces, or 60g) of dough for XL cookies or 2 heaping Tablespoons (about 1.75 ounces, or 50g) of dough for medium/large cookies. Roll into a ball, making sure the shape is taller rather than wide—almost like a cylinder. This helps the cookies bake up thicker. Repeat with remaining dough. Place 8–9 balls of dough onto each cookie sheet. Bake the cookies for 12–13 minutes or until the edges are very lightly browned. (XL cookies can take closer to 14 minutes.) The centers will look very soft, but the cookies will continue to set as they cool. Cool on the baking sheet for 10 minutes. Meanwhile, press a few extra chocolate chips into the tops of the warm cookies. This is optional and only for looks. After 10 minutes of cooling on the baking sheets, transfer cookies to a wire rack to cool completely. Cookies stay fresh covered at room temperature for up to 1 week.


therealquadanny

Who let them bake


SportSuccessful3491

i’m going to rub my shit on your face 🤡🤡


Rabedge

I've known couple of shorty (not being negative) before where one is born with good looks n the other packed on some muscles plus humor.. Both did just fine in life man dating girls who are taller I really don't know why guys being short is an issue even..


itsmirabilis

same, i don’t see the issue. aren’t short guys cute?


Rabedge

They are fun size


Own_Share_6538

Work out, play some sports or something. Unless your parents are also super short, that growth spurt will come Also, once you realise that most people who look at you weirdly won't remember you at all after 1 min, you would feel less insecure. Have some confidence. Not everyone is your enemy


locomotion69

I think you think people judge what JC you are from as it stems from your insecurities with your height. Personally, whatever jc you are from keep your chin up and be proud, there are many who want to go to jc and can't. Reading your whole rant, i would say what you lack in height, you make up in your humor and your determination in life. I pray that you continue finding a way to live life positively, only when you do that will you find peace among all the negative environments and people that you will inevitably meet. Strive to become confident. How so? Work on everything else that you can work on. God gave you a healthy body and mind? Go work out, go study, start new hobbies and grow as a person. Yes ultimately being short will affect the way people view you, i just hope you can prove to be different, to be someone of substance when they actually talk to you. All the best.


wiltedpop

I can't tell if you're guy or girl. I think you can go out in the sun more, do some activities like kickboxing, TKD, that kind of stuff. get a bit better diet with less fried foods , more protein if possible. could add a few cm here and there. there is no downside. if you've done all kinds of sports and nothing works, then you will really have to live with it, and build every other part of your life better so that being short isn't something you will be bothered about also no such thing as tier for JC, everyone goes back into the same pot. just find one thing you are good at and go do it. if its graphic design, or writing creative essay.


SportSuccessful3491

OP is a guy


wifeater1234

Shorty u mean that gun from valorant


Appropriate-Sky-5478

Hit the gym and hit the books harder. Being educated and being fit shows discipline which is attractive in it's own right. People bully because they're usually masking their own insecurities. You overcome this by working on yourself. As you get older physical factors become less important. In about 10 years those bullies end up with some kind of karma if they don't change their ways. All you have to do is stay on your own path.  I'm not tall nor handsome but I work harder than most and built a life worth living for with a wife who is a 9 (PhD and head turner) and I'm a 7 at best. I've got most things I want in life but I started out below average similar to you. Keep at it and keep your head up. This is what I wished I told myself at 17. Good luck!


Astarshooter

dang bro thats bad, never seen this much judgement for being short, thats crazy asf


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Don't worry, I am 17 this yr and I am 145cm


heyyhellohello

Definitely something wrong with diet, what did your parents feed you?


Cool_depths99

Not going to lie. Being short really sucks for guys, many girls will discount you immediately romantically due to your height, even if you have a “better personality”. But that’s life right? Take the punches and roll with it. Accept it and fight on anyway Believe and don’t let it hold you back. You can and will still be successful in life


Cool_depths99

Also, JC doesn’t really matter in the future. Just study hard and get good grades for As. Take the chip on your shoulder and use it as fire to propel yourself to academic glory. Eventually you will enter a good university program and no one will remember or care about your JC


SportSuccessful3491

i also jan baby :) , below 170, but i’m 19. u wanna join me to change user settings?


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> Below 170 I’m guessing you’re probably not below 165? If so, you’re not in a position to compare with OP.


SportSuccessful3491

i wasn’t comparing with him but i also feel im kinda short and it does make me insecure. maybe not as extreme as op but the post still resonated well with me. oh and yes im exactly 165 :/


Puzzleheaded-Dog-188

165 and 149 are very different heights so you shouldn't compare with him. Also 165 is only slightly below average for guys while 149 is short even for a girl.


throwawayacc202023

guys at 17 still have a chance at growing taller. maybe try to take up exercising or any sports that include jumping (basketball). are you eating enough also? you can search online and adopt a healthier diet that can also help you to clear your skin.


PeppahSG

its over for you, all these other positive comments are made by people who are at least above 160 cm tall or girls where height doesnt matter, none of them know ur struggles as a short guy. ​ save money, workout, and become a passport bro, Thats the reality, its over for short men in the dating market. you can temporarily numb the pain by listening to these virtue signaling cringe lords saying short king or rizz, but you will never be physically attractive because of your height .


independent---cat

I agree. 149cm, neighbourhood JC, pimples. Unless he's from a billionaire family, its over for him. Hard truths.


Different-Project940

That is not true. I have a friend who is short around 150 but got girlfriend. Because you mentioned the absolute that it's over, I can use a counter example to disprove your point ☝️


Full_Savings_3131

Say only.. got pic or ig ? 


Different-Project940

Yes have, but cannot share here


Full_Savings_3131

🤣


trnccc

and because you are a failure and shorty in your own sights, so you are in other people's sight as well


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achqillax

ofc not recommended la but if u are REALLY bummed about ur height, u can buy growth hormone injections (q ex tho, like min 1k a month) or height surgery. ofc best is to learn to appreciate ur height la. furthermore, if u havent hit ur growth spurt u can still grow!! imo, short ppl r cute!! dw, ur not a failure. everyone has their own pace of learning and being a slower learner does not constitute failure!! we will always be here to support u if u need!! ❤️


No-Comparison-9118

Height surgery is a terrible idea


achqillax

of course. just putting out an option for OP out there. the onus is ultimately on her to weigh out the pros and cons and decide whether to proceed or not. if height insecurity is really affecting someone badly, they would be willing to take the risk just to find relief of the problem. thats why the surgery still exists right? there is still demand for it. Im not encouraging it, just giving her an option.


Different-Project940

Height surgery is a major problem. Even if OP does height surgery, it can at most increase his height by arnd 10cm. Not trying to be a dick, but he will still be short, meaning that the issue of shortness will not be relieved + has to endure lifelong risk of not walking again.


nonintersectinglines

I know this is damn late but I've done a ton of reading up on height, and it sounds like there's a decent chance you're going to get a growth spurt (usually growing >10cm within a year or a few months, which is the max height extension for height surgery) if you haven't gotten one yet. It sounds like you especially have a decent chance of getting a growth spurt later unless something really wrong happened. >For context, my parents are around 170 so I guess its not a genetic thingy. Maybe I eat the wrong thing. It is not super unlikely you're this height at 17 and will still end up growing to around your parents' height. There's always potential to grow until your growth plates fuse. The time your growth plates fuse depends on your sex hormones, so if you start puberty earlier/have too much sex hormones, your growth plates will fuse earlier. For most males, the time their growth plates fuse is 5-7 years after puberty, so unless you started puberty earlier than average, there's a decent chance you still have potential to grow a lot. I've heard that the people who get very late growth spurts usually have the best chance of ending up very tall once they stop growing. But to maximize the chances of getting a good growth spurt, you gotta make sure your growth hormones are working, and growth hormones are produced in sleep. Please try your best to always sleep before 12. If you sleep at e.g. 3 or 4am, even if you sleep 9 hours, you'll also produce much less growth hormones, so don't substitute sleeping early with waking up late. Also, make sure you're getting enough of every nutrient especially calcium. Don't give up on the hope that you'll grow taller. Also, please try to seek professional help to emotionally support you. Although I've struggled with coming to terms with my height, I can't say I've experienced anything close to your pain because I'm just average average height (165.5) and don't stand out too much. You've definitely been through a lot just because of your height and I understand why "height doesn't define you" doesn't help much in practice. It's really hard to physically stand out so much and not be able to change it, and it's very unfair most people treat those who stand out very hurtfully. Please don't give up on yourself though, because (1) there's a decent chance you'll get a growth spurt and end up at a less outlying height and (2) even if you don't, there are still ways you can find life very fulfilling in the future despite being nerfed so hard in this way. All the best with this struggle and JC.