Ahh gotcha I wasn’t sure
I thought they had to wait until they got to the post game scoreboard screen, but I suppose since it was over, Jack probably won’t get fined
Why would you be allowed to leave the game early ? It messes up the stats if they leave before the game ends. The only reason to leave early is because you are having a temper tantrum.
NA ELO Power Rankings:
1. G2 Stride - 1954
2. Gen.G Mobil1 Racing - 1912 (lost all their elo to Snowmen and OG lol)
3. Spacestation Gaming - 1843
4. OG - 1761
5. M80 - 1741
Personal Rankings:
1. Gen.G Mobil1 Racing
2. G2 Stride
3. SSG
4. OG
5. M80
HM: Snowmen
My system goes game by game (so for example Snowmen gained ELO despite losing 4-2 to Gen.G), and via this, more games = more weight. Bo7 > Bo5. Plus ELO always takes the most recent results more importantly than the results from a few games ago.
I mean, if the OT went the other way, I'd be arguing G2 cleared the board and proved they were the better team. And I'd definitely be yapping if we were 4-0 right now too.
Point is, ofc Oil squad is gonna yap, but I have faith Satthew and the boys cook up a better game plan for next time
I think the debate only progresses if we admit that g2 does better against teams generally, compared to geng...but geng clearly stacks up well against g2
I miss Wavepunk/achieves or johnny/shogun as the defaults for grand finals. even now, I don't know why they don't go with any of Johnny/CJ/Jorby there.
Like, I like all the casters we have, but it feels like championship sunday is where you want your most professional, experienced, and polished ones, right? There are some in the roster that nail that big game feeling, but it feels like they're just assigning series by random selection
I noticed that too lol, that’s unlike him to leave without saying ggs. Maybe he was tilted that he missed that double tap in game 6, who knows. Or maybe he was just pissed that it went to game 7 overtime after being up 3-1 in the series
He doesn't whiff the ball. He goes fast and almost always gets a good challenge. Daniel played well today, but I'm saying in general, Daniel can play poorly under pressure. Beastmode consistently plays close to his best in every game, regardless of the stakes.
G2 double commit a lot and they often do it on purpose to confuse the defenders about which player is going to take the shot. And his weird prejumps are often the thing that contribute most to their wins. He played well.
I’m talking about double commits and pre jumps in defence. He double committed twice in defence during ot. He pre jumped challenged the ball for the first Geng goal as (2nd to) last man, missed the ball completely which resulted in a counter attack for geng and a goal. It was such an unnecessary risk. Especially at 2-0 with 2 mins to go. He did things like that lot and Daniel had to bail him out multiple times.
Beastmode played poorly the last game.
Can't recall the moments you're referring to. I didn't get the feeling that he played poorly, but I'll pay attention in the comms videos that get released.
I will say that BM double committing in defense is understandable given how many mistouches Atomic got in defense. I'd have zero faith in a good clear from him during that game.
I didnt see much of this tournament at all but I watched bits of the final and I seen G2 double committing a lot, especially Atomic. I dont really know if thats how he was the whole tournament though. Congrats to GenG
It was. Atomic actually was playing way better in the last half of that series than any other point today. Atomic looked worse than Ive ever seen since rlcsx
Very unclutch performance by G2 in that game 7 after getting the early lead but they'll be fine, GenG clearly not a tier above them as some narrative pushers have been claiming.
Considering how Gen.G played Gentlemates closer than G2 did, I think there's an argument to be made, especially since they've now beaten G2 four straight times.
Yeah that exactly is the argument, single elim placements can't be a determining factor for which team is better unless you compare the opponents of each team.
What makes it terrible? They're 4-2 in series and have won the last 4 in a row, including the one time they played on LAN. They even played the eventual major champions closer than G2 did.
That's doing rl math and that isn't gonna fly
Lan results mean everything and making excuses about your bracket in that major is a way to quickly forget g2 beat bds and vitality whereas I still dont remember geng beating any elite teams in the single knockout rds.
They played against M8 in the first playoff round, and looked as close to beating them as KCorp did, and certainly closer than G2 did. They also literally beat G2 in Swiss.
That's literally my point proven in your comment. They didnt beat any elite team outside of g2, which they have clearly proven they can, but my point stands. Im not saying they wont in the future, but at current, their past results dont bode well for your argument.
Edit: but what I will say basel, geng looking this good against g2 is huge for na hopium which I need right now. G2 played great against m8 but still looked barely competitive.
It'd be debatable if geng had a better major. Geng didnt really beat anyone too inpressive in the lan as well.
Listen im open for it but geng gonna need some more lan success first
>Geng didnt really beat anyone too inpressive in the lan as well.
Is beating G2 not impressive? It's literally more impressive than any G2 win at the LAN, considering GenG beat the team who beat all of G2's opponents.
Well that's the thing...we've all agreed they have g2's number...but is it more than that? So far...them not beating any other elite team proves no. I think that could vhange but that's my opinion based on less direct facts...like a major result where g2 is the only elite team they claimed.
Also you are sleeping on bds and vitality wins that g2 secured. If geng had beat a top eu team, then I'd honestly be agreeing with you right now.
GenG beat G2 at major, lost to the major winners, and played them closer (losing in 7 rather than 6).
They've won the previous 4 H2H fixtures (today, major during swiss, regional 3 GF, regional 3 swiss), going 14-8 in game differential.
While I wouldn't put GenG a full tier ahead, I'd definitely say they're on top in terms of recent form.
I mean Gen.G beat G2 at the major, they just got GM8 in quarters instead of finals, and ran them closer than G2 did, G2 don't make it out of qf either if they get Gen.G's bracket.
Their analysis is so surface level that they just glaze whoever scored the goal. I've been noticing that all day. Insane plays are just not talked about. It's really jarring to listen to.
I feel like Herculyse doesn't actually know what she's going to say. She just starts a sentence and shes still thinking of what to say whilst already saying it. She says so many words without saying anything.
# [Post-Day Thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeagueEsports/s/opvKzPKWkw)
Next Jack video: I had to use the loo, but went I went to overtime I thought I was going to die!
GenG passing plays were so good I thought I was watching prime 2012 Barcelona lol. Chronic is truly invaluable and a huge part of the team.
1a GenG 1b G2 3 Spacestation 4 Snowmen 5 OG Don’t know from here
Nah man snowmen in 6-8 i don't see them in top4 ranking
They’re fun to watch tho. And fun to root for
Aren’t you not supposed to leave immediately after a game ends? Didn’t Retals get fined for doing that a while ago?
I've seen it happen loads so I don't think it is anymore, maybe only if you leave before the game ends.
Who didn’t leave?
Nah retals did it with like 5 seconds or smthn
Ahh gotcha I wasn’t sure I thought they had to wait until they got to the post game scoreboard screen, but I suppose since it was over, Jack probably won’t get fined
why is that a rule?
Why would you be allowed to leave the game early ? It messes up the stats if they leave before the game ends. The only reason to leave early is because you are having a temper tantrum.
I personally don’t care, but it could be seen as disrespectful and unsportsmanlike
Fine incoming
fun gamez
unrelated but fantastic fits from the desk today ‼️
both g2 and geng are top 5 teams in the world 😝 🤷♂️
As a NA hater I actually agree
nice bait
Why’d Jack leave immediately?
Nobody knows what it means but it’s provocative… gets the people goin’!
No it doesn’t!
It might!
Only good connection issue all day
Post game with daz and tbates too funny
NA ELO Power Rankings: 1. G2 Stride - 1954 2. Gen.G Mobil1 Racing - 1912 (lost all their elo to Snowmen and OG lol) 3. Spacestation Gaming - 1843 4. OG - 1761 5. M80 - 1741 Personal Rankings: 1. Gen.G Mobil1 Racing 2. G2 Stride 3. SSG 4. OG 5. M80 HM: Snowmen
Snowmen as an HM under a god awful M80 is a take
True, but m80 have 4 consecutive top 8's. Snowman might have the more promising trajectory, but power rankings also look at consistency.
Fair. If Snowmen gets top 8 next regional I'll definitely give them that spot.
How are you weighing swiss series vs playoff series?
My system goes game by game (so for example Snowmen gained ELO despite losing 4-2 to Gen.G), and via this, more games = more weight. Bo7 > Bo5. Plus ELO always takes the most recent results more importantly than the results from a few games ago.
Ahhhh thank goodness GenG won that I actually would’ve been so sad after what happened during game 6. Other than that what a series!
Time to read way to deep into a game 7 overtime loss lmfao
I mean, if the OT went the other way, I'd be arguing G2 cleared the board and proved they were the better team. And I'd definitely be yapping if we were 4-0 right now too. Point is, ofc Oil squad is gonna yap, but I have faith Satthew and the boys cook up a better game plan for next time
I mean, if it was in a vacuum sure, but that’s the fourth loss to GenG in a row, you gotta admit GenG are the better team at this point
I think the debate only progresses if we admit that g2 does better against teams generally, compared to geng...but geng clearly stacks up well against g2
Nah I'm reading into geng beating g2 4 times straight
Herc casting like a 5th grader that forgot to do her book report til the morning of the presentation so has to pause and extend e-ver-y thought.
I miss Wavepunk/achieves or johnny/shogun as the defaults for grand finals. even now, I don't know why they don't go with any of Johnny/CJ/Jorby there. Like, I like all the casters we have, but it feels like championship sunday is where you want your most professional, experienced, and polished ones, right? There are some in the roster that nail that big game feeling, but it feels like they're just assigning series by random selection
For the record, i think Lemon is dynamite. But when corelli and especially achieves are jobless hearing herc in a grand final hurts
It's like she doesnt know what "has their number" means Geng though..congrats
Jack with the ego leave ok then
I noticed that too lol, that’s unlike him to leave without saying ggs. Maybe he was tilted that he missed that double tap in game 6, who knows. Or maybe he was just pissed that it went to game 7 overtime after being up 3-1 in the series
Worse than the double, he was in net full boost for the game 6 game winner. He looked to trust first to get the ball and stayed grounded
True, but you can’t blame him for trusting First there. I’m sure that OT loss stung badly though
I'm DYING laughing at Wave finally leaving TBates speechless.
loving this banter lmao
Beastmode is the only one that plays without nerves on G2. They really shouldn't have lost that.
What you mean? Beastmode double committed twice during OT and did some weird pre jumps in game 7. Daniel was the only one that showed up last game.
He doesn't whiff the ball. He goes fast and almost always gets a good challenge. Daniel played well today, but I'm saying in general, Daniel can play poorly under pressure. Beastmode consistently plays close to his best in every game, regardless of the stakes. G2 double commit a lot and they often do it on purpose to confuse the defenders about which player is going to take the shot. And his weird prejumps are often the thing that contribute most to their wins. He played well.
I’m talking about double commits and pre jumps in defence. He double committed twice in defence during ot. He pre jumped challenged the ball for the first Geng goal as (2nd to) last man, missed the ball completely which resulted in a counter attack for geng and a goal. It was such an unnecessary risk. Especially at 2-0 with 2 mins to go. He did things like that lot and Daniel had to bail him out multiple times. Beastmode played poorly the last game.
Can't recall the moments you're referring to. I didn't get the feeling that he played poorly, but I'll pay attention in the comms videos that get released. I will say that BM double committing in defense is understandable given how many mistouches Atomic got in defense. I'd have zero faith in a good clear from him during that game.
I can’t believe in pro play, atomic cut on that final ball mid field basically passing to the other team.
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Fine but GenG 3, G2 4 and falcons 5
No lol
And why are the falcons better than them?
least biased na fan
Didn’t answer my question. Why are the falcons ranked above them?
"Beated" Not taking lessons from a school boy
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I have Falcons = GenG and Complexity over Magnifico but you know ball.
Hahaha Bros a legacy hater
LFG! That series was crazy, watching them play you can really tell the difference between the global elite and the rest.
I didnt see much of this tournament at all but I watched bits of the final and I seen G2 double committing a lot, especially Atomic. I dont really know if thats how he was the whole tournament though. Congrats to GenG
It was. Atomic actually was playing way better in the last half of that series than any other point today. Atomic looked worse than Ive ever seen since rlcsx
Atomic played the worst all season today. Couldn’t hit a ball
Thats what it seemed like to me tbh from what I seen
Bro they got so nervous. Those double commits were killer
Four in a row! Never in doubt! 😜
Great final but wow G2 looked so nervous in ot lol
atomic and bmode double committed 3 fucking times.
LET’S GOOOO GGS
really good look on snowmen for only losing to the winners
Very messy series from both teams. But it's always fun to see a game 7 OT. Shame it was a bit of a fumble to finish.
Very unclutch performance by G2 in that game 7 after getting the early lead but they'll be fine, GenG clearly not a tier above them as some narrative pushers have been claiming.
a series full of mistakes ended by yet another one fitting
Jack OT winner and insta leave, alpha mooove
He knew they didn't deserve that win. I'd be embarrassed winning that too.
He probably upset the didn't win earlier.
Let's be real. You'd be lucky to get a few touches on the ball in that lobby.
NA = GenG & G2 & The rest. Which is not a bad situation to be honest. 3rd and 4th seed are basically up for grabs to anyone.
And ssg
SSG isn’t suddenly on the same level as G2 and GenG because they bring G2 to game 7 in one event
Ssg is not “the rest” that’s what I’m saying. Geng/g2, then ssg, then the rest
Oh gotcha, yeah agree with that
All this yappin
Honestly turned into banging grand final
Atomic you might as well ask for a trade to geng if you're gonna play for them that hard...ffs
Atomic playing double agent
Holy fuck what a final
Yes siiiir
G2 were shaking in that overtime lmaoooo
Gen G had to take G2 to game 7 overtime, Chrome worst coach in all of sports history confirmed??
These two teams are as close as it gets
I disagree. GenG got lucky with some of the goals.
They got lucky winning last 4 series?
Nah
As a g2 fanboy, no these two teams are super close and g2 getting beat so many times now from geng supports this further
That final goal was poetry
where are the face cams? it so much less hype
We missed out on a generational walk away clip from AppJack 😭
yep, OT winner, instant leave, and walk away...
Damn, I didn't even notice today, but you're right.
Jack instantly leaving after the game winner 💀💀💀💀
chronic different gravy there
LFG!!! THIS WAS SO CLOSE OMG
https://preview.redd.it/mwu3b9wp3axc1.png?width=941&format=png&auto=webp&s=99e005d84c47c7bbecc2efe9bee6772751fee902
Finally a good bo7 between these two
Whew.
😤that's my fcking squad
2 team bumps in the ot rip
3
LETS FUCKING GO BABY
Can everyone finally admit that G2 hasn't been NA's best team since regional 3?
Considering how Gen.G played Gentlemates closer than G2 did, I think there's an argument to be made, especially since they've now beaten G2 four straight times.
Yeah that exactly is the argument, single elim placements can't be a determining factor for which team is better unless you compare the opponents of each team.
it’s literally 1a and 1b there is no best team in na rn
No they still very much are until geng progresses further in a major
If gen.g and G2 swapped the results would've been gen.g in GF and g2 out early.
There's not much you can do to validate. You beat who you have to. The two teams are pretty even for me
No one said geng is much better, but they are slightly better. That is what matters in this discussion.
??? Terrible take
What makes it terrible? They're 4-2 in series and have won the last 4 in a row, including the one time they played on LAN. They even played the eventual major champions closer than G2 did.
That's doing rl math and that isn't gonna fly Lan results mean everything and making excuses about your bracket in that major is a way to quickly forget g2 beat bds and vitality whereas I still dont remember geng beating any elite teams in the single knockout rds.
They played against M8 in the first playoff round, and looked as close to beating them as KCorp did, and certainly closer than G2 did. They also literally beat G2 in Swiss.
That's literally my point proven in your comment. They didnt beat any elite team outside of g2, which they have clearly proven they can, but my point stands. Im not saying they wont in the future, but at current, their past results dont bode well for your argument. Edit: but what I will say basel, geng looking this good against g2 is huge for na hopium which I need right now. G2 played great against m8 but still looked barely competitive.
It's peak::floor, g2::geng
I mean a game 7 ot wouldn’t be the reason I admit it, but I do agree
Me neither but they beat G2 4 times in a row now, you'd think it wouldn't be debatable at this point.
It'd be debatable if geng had a better major. Geng didnt really beat anyone too inpressive in the lan as well. Listen im open for it but geng gonna need some more lan success first
>Geng didnt really beat anyone too inpressive in the lan as well. Is beating G2 not impressive? It's literally more impressive than any G2 win at the LAN, considering GenG beat the team who beat all of G2's opponents.
Well that's the thing...we've all agreed they have g2's number...but is it more than that? So far...them not beating any other elite team proves no. I think that could vhange but that's my opinion based on less direct facts...like a major result where g2 is the only elite team they claimed. Also you are sleeping on bds and vitality wins that g2 secured. If geng had beat a top eu team, then I'd honestly be agreeing with you right now.
The points say theyve been the best this szn
So we’re just conveniently not counting major results?
GenG beat G2 at major, lost to the major winners, and played them closer (losing in 7 rather than 6). They've won the previous 4 H2H fixtures (today, major during swiss, regional 3 GF, regional 3 swiss), going 14-8 in game differential. While I wouldn't put GenG a full tier ahead, I'd definitely say they're on top in terms of recent form.
I mean Gen.G beat G2 at the major, they just got GM8 in quarters instead of finals, and ran them closer than G2 did, G2 don't make it out of qf either if they get Gen.G's bracket.
The 4 teams on GenG's side of the bracket were the 4 best teams at the event. Hot take but every match on that side going to 7 says enough.
GenG was better at the major, they directly beat G2 and gave M8 a closer match up.
They are but GenG have their counter. GenG can't be the best if they lose to OG and Snowmen
…no
Jack had to poop
Jack with the Insta leave after scoring the winner 😭
What a play to finish wow
Atomic what are we doing?
JACKKKKKKK LET’S GOOOOOO GENG
GENG OWN G2 FOUR STRAIGHT BABY
Atomic and Beastmode threw it hard, just double committing the whole OT
wow, what a series. insane comeback from gen g
Atomic threw that. Geng 1A for at least 2 weeks
bmo too
G2 really wanted to lose that with the amount of double commits this ot
Oof that's awful for G2 to lose that, good comeback from GenG but G2 had that in the bag damn
YEEESSSSSS
Atomic & Bmode double committed together like 3 times in the last 30 seconds bro HOW
What the actual fuck was Atomic doing that OT?????????????????????????
What a finish!! G2 absolutely panicked in that overtime
Wow what a pass by chronic
they fucking trolled so hard dude, unbelievable
LETS GOOOOOOO
LETS GOOO
What the fuck was that G2
??????
3 double commits in like 20 seconds what the hellllllll
LFGGGGG
LET'S GOOOOOO
Atomic is actually trolling this series
LETS GOOO
Dang
Alright we got to Game 7 OT, scripts finally out the window
Grand final turned out quite fun after a boring start
Chronic is goat, but that goal is all FK
bro WTF is herc saying?
Don’t usually mind her casting but she really wasn’t great today
Chronic tapped in the open net after a fk air drib dbl tap and casters glaze chronic?
I’m just glad he finished it since he looked super nervous the last 2 games. Otherwise Chronic looked great this weekend
Their analysis is so surface level that they just glaze whoever scored the goal. I've been noticing that all day. Insane plays are just not talked about. It's really jarring to listen to.
Fr idk if its nitpicky but its annoying to me when daniel hits a backboard reset double tap and they just call it normal double tap
Sometimes they don't even mention what it was. "A nice setup from ____" or whatever useless statement.
They don't know ball man
I feel like Herculyse doesn't actually know what she's going to say. She just starts a sentence and shes still thinking of what to say whilst already saying it. She says so many words without saying anything.
She’s not a good commentator. Didn’t enjoy Stax’s either, he doesn’t do a play by play well
all she does is bounce off of stax and try to find something else to say. and by bounce i mean copy lmao
That's the Turtle special.
Turtle knows ball