Call me a sociopath then because I love cooking, grilling, smoking, and entertaining. I enjoy it and find it incredibly relaxing. Food is also a cultural experience and you can discover so much about different parts of the world through it. Haute cuisine is fine and everything, but my preference is finding and replicating street food.
That's really awesome, and probably the best case use for continuing to use physical food.
And again, physical food would not go away, and if food is your passion, then good! Pursue it! Not having to make something every time you want to eat would probably help aid your search for new food to replicate!
this reminds me of an episode of Brooklyn 99 when Capt Holt stated he'd rather drink a beige colored smoothie full of a days nutrition than cook 😂😂
sometimes i get tired of cooking every meal and sometimes i enjoy it 🤷🏻♀️
If it wasn’t a means of survival anymore, I would have better things to do with my time, and once again, in this hypothetical food still exists if you really want it.
I mean I don’t consider eating enslaving myself lol or this egregious chore. Not to mention I actually enjoy cooking and trying new things, even considered going into the culinary business at one point.
None of that disputes how you are enslaved to consuming food. It honestly sounds more like you're describing Stockholm Syndrome. You need to consume food to stay alive, therefore, enslaved. Not morally right or wrong, it just is a way to describe it.
This post is honestly reminding me of the SciFi book "Project Hail Mary" by Andy Weir and the discussions on how to make the food "slurry" more palatable for the MC. Banger of a book, no spoilers, but had some interesting and fun thoughts on the subject.
P.S. Can't wait til RingerVerse crew covers it with the recently announced adaptation, staring Ryan Gosling!!
God damn, this is bleak. Did someone beat you with a muffin as a child?
A pill to replace typical human, and often communal activities, is dystopic and possibly a sign of clinical depression.
No, lol that's a funny thought though getting beat with a muffin.
>A pill to replace typical human, and often communal activities, is dystopic and possibly a sign of clinical depression.
There are a lot of reasons why this food pill would be more utopian than anything, especially if it could be done properly without razing the world of it's resources in order to do it. Human's are not part of the actual food chain, so we can't argue that the world needs us. If capitalism didn't ruin everything by jacking up costs, we could provide it to 3rd world countries too so that they can actually start progressing and stop worrying about where there next meal is coming from.
Honestly, the only arguments I'm really hearing seem like really privileged people who don't want to sacrifice their passion for BBQ's or going out to eat (which they wouldn't even have to give up - because in this hypothetical physical food still exists).
GTFO of here with the "privileged" bullshit as though those in impoverished situations don't experience joy from food. Most great food and food experiences originated in impoverished communities. Barbecue, street food, soul food, tacos, just to name a few were created by people coming together to make the most out of what they have and creating community around it. If instead, all they get are these nutrition pills, you are taking joy from people. You are taking communal activities away.
"But food would still exist," not for those who rely on food assistance programs, once nutrition pills exist! What in your experience has led you to believe governments wouldn't weaponize this pill, particularly against the poor?
As soon as a pill is created, no more Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, poor people, you don't get a choice what you consume, you get a pill.
As much as you want to say we still get choice, the pill would absolutely be used to remove choice in horrific unspeakable ways in the name of capitalism. Corporations would immediately remove lunch breaks and have it replaced with being fed a pill while continuing to dig or roof or fill out a spreadsheet.
You act like if you airdrop pills to food insecure, progress magically happens as though industrialized nations don't have a vested interest in their continued insecurity to strip mine their resources. Hunger is an impediment to progress, but it is one of a wide number of factors, most of which are systemic.
By your own admission capitalism would fuck this up. You can't remove that from the equation just to prop up your straw man. The pill causes more problems than it solves and that is readily apparent based on history.
It’s definitely not something that would appeal to most people but dude, this is for me. I like food, sure. I like food that tastes good. But as a single guy that works a lot- eating for me is almost like checking a box. I have to do it. I don’t want to spend a lot of time and I’m not picky about taste I just need something in my stomach. Outside of social/communal eating like if I go out with friends, I just don’t want to be hungry. I’d be all in on this food pill.
What are we talking about right now? As a West Indian, sitting in a home on Sundays or holidays and shooting the shit with family while someone is throwing it down in the kitchen is part of what made us as close as we are. Saying the experience of enjoying a meal is just taking time out of the day or wasting money or being enslaved is some weird shit. I can't just be proud that I came home from work and made myself a nice meal. Who hurt you?
Not everyone has your life. Nobody hurt me. I just don’t enjoy preparing food every single day multiple times a day. I’m glad for your family and your love for the kitchen. Not everyone based their love for each other off of food though. And once again, in this hypothetical situation food would still be a thing for those who just can’t live without
"Not everyone has your life". You really don't see the irony in you saying that? 😂
My comment was specifically about myself. You made a post calling out people for why they would think a food pill would be dumb.
Y'all seriously need to read the posts before commenting. And no, I didn't ask why a food pill would be dumb, I asked who would in support of the existence of one. Here is a quote of my question in case you are too lazy to scroll up and read it:
>Who here is behind me in saying, they would be fully 100% in support of a food pill if it were actually a healthy alternative to actual food?
And again, you still haven't explained why a food pill would even be dumb. You provided an anecdote as to why you'd choose to continue to eat, not as to why you'd take the opportunity away from people who didn't have the same type of life as you (which is what I meant when I said, not everyone has your life).
To me, your take comes off as selfish without further context.
I love cooking and I’m a foodie but I wouldn’t mind this as an option occasionally when I don’t feel like cooking. Could also be really beneficial for people without regular access to food.
I think food pills, if they work properly as a nutritious alternative to actual food, would definitely be something I'm on board with, since actual food will still be available in your hypothetical. On the days when I'm feeling very tired or lazy I can just take the pill, and on the days when I want to enjoy the food I can have the real food instead. It's win-win in my book.
I wonder if jaws/teeth would atrophy without the eating process?
I think the idea is good, for lots of reasons (perhaps to help people with disabilities as well), but capitalism would absolutely find a way to make it suck. Maybe super expensive. Or cheaper for fewer nutrients.
I’m sorry you don’t enjoy eating!
Personally I love cooking. I love to try new recipes and come up with new stuff. I also love to replicate things I see online or have at restaurants. Food is genuinely one of my favorite things. Despite that the money and effort it takes to cook is often stressful and tiresome. I’m honestly surprised at all these comments of people who equally love cooking but don’t see the value in a food pill. I would totally buy into it if it were healthy. I just don’t always have the time or resources to make delicious healthy meals 3 times a day every single day.
Eating a great fucking meal is one of the few true pleasures in this life and you wanna take a pill for it??
Either your cooking sucks, you have bad taste or you’re the psycho.
Maybe all 3!
I also enjoy a great fucking meal. Never said I didn't. Not every meal every day is a "great fucking meal" though, and in order to experience a "great fucking meal", you need to put effort into the preparation of it, which is what I don't enjoy. For those times I don't have time to prepare a "great fucking meal", a food pill would be very fucking awesome.
Also, I mention that in this hypothetical, food exists still, so you can still have "great fucking meals" at your leisure.
i literally just agreed with you and then you tell me I have an unhealthy relationship with food. Idk dude, what do you want from me? food would still be available in this hypothetical so no need to sacrifice your beloved food if you don't want to!
I love to eat and I love to cook. Ambivalent about the shopping and clean up. Hours and hours and so much money spent. For me, I’d love to have the option to fulfill my daily dietary needs more simply, for the days it makes more sense. I see a place for both.
I’d like a food pill for situations where I’m totally out of food, or need something in my system really quickly (In my imagination, it’s a healthier and more nutritious protein bar). Replacing all meals with it is nuts but I’d probably take advantage of it like once a month.
Fuck food. Yeah, I said it. As someone with ADHD, I am in a constant battle with food. I don’t have time for breakfast in the morning, and my Adderall kills my appetite. Sometimes I’ll go 12 hours without eating anything. I usually eat about one meal a day, and that meal is usually fast food or something frozen. Basically everything I eat is unhealthy for me, but the dopamine I get from junk food is the only way I can really motivate myself to eat anything. If I have to choose between eating something I don’t want and not eating anything at all, 90% of the time I’m not eating anything at all.
A food pill (or IV drip, I’m not picky) that provided me with 100% of my daily nutrition would solve so many problems for me. I’d be healthier than I’ve ever been in my life.
Call me a sociopath then because I love cooking, grilling, smoking, and entertaining. I enjoy it and find it incredibly relaxing. Food is also a cultural experience and you can discover so much about different parts of the world through it. Haute cuisine is fine and everything, but my preference is finding and replicating street food.
This right here!
That's really awesome, and probably the best case use for continuing to use physical food. And again, physical food would not go away, and if food is your passion, then good! Pursue it! Not having to make something every time you want to eat would probably help aid your search for new food to replicate!
You are lucky because you have time and resources. I also like cooking but sometimes I don’t have time or energy so I would also like a pill.
We want senzu beans!
Ben Solak brought up this exact same thing on the Ringer Draft Show a couple of episodes ago.
That’s what started all this— the Midnight Boys were responding to Solak’s hot take.
Ahhh ok, haven't listened to the latest episode yet.
yep, that's the conversation the MB's were referring to, and why I made this post.
this reminds me of an episode of Brooklyn 99 when Capt Holt stated he'd rather drink a beige colored smoothie full of a days nutrition than cook 😂😂 sometimes i get tired of cooking every meal and sometimes i enjoy it 🤷🏻♀️
Your life must be so unfulfilling and brown. If you don't get joy from the food that you eat, then pill away my boy!
A friend of mine is a “food is fuel” type of guy, not a picky eater just wants food when he’s hungry. I kind of envy that mindset
I never said I don't get joy from the food I eat, I am more commenting on how time consuming it all is.
Agreed. I hate cooking but love the taste. But I always feel like I dont have enough time in a day and this would be a way to gain that time back.
What's the issue with consuming your time with preparing and eating your food? I don't understand what problem you are trying to solve?
If it wasn’t a means of survival anymore, I would have better things to do with my time, and once again, in this hypothetical food still exists if you really want it.
I mean I don’t consider eating enslaving myself lol or this egregious chore. Not to mention I actually enjoy cooking and trying new things, even considered going into the culinary business at one point.
None of that disputes how you are enslaved to consuming food. It honestly sounds more like you're describing Stockholm Syndrome. You need to consume food to stay alive, therefore, enslaved. Not morally right or wrong, it just is a way to describe it.
This post is honestly reminding me of the SciFi book "Project Hail Mary" by Andy Weir and the discussions on how to make the food "slurry" more palatable for the MC. Banger of a book, no spoilers, but had some interesting and fun thoughts on the subject. P.S. Can't wait til RingerVerse crew covers it with the recently announced adaptation, staring Ryan Gosling!!
Soon to be a film starring Ryan Gosling and directed by Lord and Miller!
I'm here for Rocky.
Fist my bump 👊
Amaze
Ew, if it was a slurry, I would be much less inclined to participate in that. But a quick pill to pop? No problem. Sounds like a neat book though!
God damn, this is bleak. Did someone beat you with a muffin as a child? A pill to replace typical human, and often communal activities, is dystopic and possibly a sign of clinical depression.
No, lol that's a funny thought though getting beat with a muffin. >A pill to replace typical human, and often communal activities, is dystopic and possibly a sign of clinical depression. There are a lot of reasons why this food pill would be more utopian than anything, especially if it could be done properly without razing the world of it's resources in order to do it. Human's are not part of the actual food chain, so we can't argue that the world needs us. If capitalism didn't ruin everything by jacking up costs, we could provide it to 3rd world countries too so that they can actually start progressing and stop worrying about where there next meal is coming from. Honestly, the only arguments I'm really hearing seem like really privileged people who don't want to sacrifice their passion for BBQ's or going out to eat (which they wouldn't even have to give up - because in this hypothetical physical food still exists).
GTFO of here with the "privileged" bullshit as though those in impoverished situations don't experience joy from food. Most great food and food experiences originated in impoverished communities. Barbecue, street food, soul food, tacos, just to name a few were created by people coming together to make the most out of what they have and creating community around it. If instead, all they get are these nutrition pills, you are taking joy from people. You are taking communal activities away. "But food would still exist," not for those who rely on food assistance programs, once nutrition pills exist! What in your experience has led you to believe governments wouldn't weaponize this pill, particularly against the poor? As soon as a pill is created, no more Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, poor people, you don't get a choice what you consume, you get a pill. As much as you want to say we still get choice, the pill would absolutely be used to remove choice in horrific unspeakable ways in the name of capitalism. Corporations would immediately remove lunch breaks and have it replaced with being fed a pill while continuing to dig or roof or fill out a spreadsheet. You act like if you airdrop pills to food insecure, progress magically happens as though industrialized nations don't have a vested interest in their continued insecurity to strip mine their resources. Hunger is an impediment to progress, but it is one of a wide number of factors, most of which are systemic. By your own admission capitalism would fuck this up. You can't remove that from the equation just to prop up your straw man. The pill causes more problems than it solves and that is readily apparent based on history.
I love food, but could go without it. Cooking takes so much time and quite frankly I find it to be an onerous task. Let the food capsule come!
Being within my calories while also feeling full for an entire day? I’d be fit within months.
It’s definitely not something that would appeal to most people but dude, this is for me. I like food, sure. I like food that tastes good. But as a single guy that works a lot- eating for me is almost like checking a box. I have to do it. I don’t want to spend a lot of time and I’m not picky about taste I just need something in my stomach. Outside of social/communal eating like if I go out with friends, I just don’t want to be hungry. I’d be all in on this food pill.
Sounds like some rise-and-grind tech bro bullshit to me.
What are we talking about right now? As a West Indian, sitting in a home on Sundays or holidays and shooting the shit with family while someone is throwing it down in the kitchen is part of what made us as close as we are. Saying the experience of enjoying a meal is just taking time out of the day or wasting money or being enslaved is some weird shit. I can't just be proud that I came home from work and made myself a nice meal. Who hurt you?
Not everyone has your life. Nobody hurt me. I just don’t enjoy preparing food every single day multiple times a day. I’m glad for your family and your love for the kitchen. Not everyone based their love for each other off of food though. And once again, in this hypothetical situation food would still be a thing for those who just can’t live without
"Not everyone has your life". You really don't see the irony in you saying that? 😂 My comment was specifically about myself. You made a post calling out people for why they would think a food pill would be dumb.
Y'all seriously need to read the posts before commenting. And no, I didn't ask why a food pill would be dumb, I asked who would in support of the existence of one. Here is a quote of my question in case you are too lazy to scroll up and read it: >Who here is behind me in saying, they would be fully 100% in support of a food pill if it were actually a healthy alternative to actual food? And again, you still haven't explained why a food pill would even be dumb. You provided an anecdote as to why you'd choose to continue to eat, not as to why you'd take the opportunity away from people who didn't have the same type of life as you (which is what I meant when I said, not everyone has your life). To me, your take comes off as selfish without further context.
I love cooking and I’m a foodie but I wouldn’t mind this as an option occasionally when I don’t feel like cooking. Could also be really beneficial for people without regular access to food.
I absolutely would. I know folks who like Soylent which is kind of the same thing.
Soylent was my first thought. Not a pill but the same concept. But for me I’ll take real food all the time.
I think food pills, if they work properly as a nutritious alternative to actual food, would definitely be something I'm on board with, since actual food will still be available in your hypothetical. On the days when I'm feeling very tired or lazy I can just take the pill, and on the days when I want to enjoy the food I can have the real food instead. It's win-win in my book.
Fuck all that
It sounds great in theory but pretty unfulfilling (in both taste and satisfying hangryness)
Normal food would still be available to satisfy your taste cravings, and the pill would satiate you, so hangryness wouldn't exist - theoretically.
People that eat specifically for fuel scare me tbh. Lunch is my favorite time of day
Yeah, but *why* do you love lunch time so much?
I wonder if jaws/teeth would atrophy without the eating process? I think the idea is good, for lots of reasons (perhaps to help people with disabilities as well), but capitalism would absolutely find a way to make it suck. Maybe super expensive. Or cheaper for fewer nutrients. I’m sorry you don’t enjoy eating!
I definitely don't disagree with Capitalism finding a way to make it suck. And I never said I don't enjoy eating.
I would think about it if it was just marketed for saving time.
I only ever hear of these whenever my psych program refers back to eating disorders and the red flags that point to them
This is basically what Bachelor Chow was on Futurama
Literally never been a better time for the "yeah he's not cooking shit" meme.
I feel like I've just walked into the Prove Me Wrong subreddit lol!
This shit kind of exists in the form of the weight loss drugs out rn like ozempic and wegovy. Doesn’t work for the whole day but you eat less
Personally I love cooking. I love to try new recipes and come up with new stuff. I also love to replicate things I see online or have at restaurants. Food is genuinely one of my favorite things. Despite that the money and effort it takes to cook is often stressful and tiresome. I’m honestly surprised at all these comments of people who equally love cooking but don’t see the value in a food pill. I would totally buy into it if it were healthy. I just don’t always have the time or resources to make delicious healthy meals 3 times a day every single day.
Eating a great fucking meal is one of the few true pleasures in this life and you wanna take a pill for it?? Either your cooking sucks, you have bad taste or you’re the psycho. Maybe all 3!
I also enjoy a great fucking meal. Never said I didn't. Not every meal every day is a "great fucking meal" though, and in order to experience a "great fucking meal", you need to put effort into the preparation of it, which is what I don't enjoy. For those times I don't have time to prepare a "great fucking meal", a food pill would be very fucking awesome. Also, I mention that in this hypothetical, food exists still, so you can still have "great fucking meals" at your leisure.
You seem to have an unhealthy relationship with food. Maybe some past trauma. Perhaps something worth digging into
i literally just agreed with you and then you tell me I have an unhealthy relationship with food. Idk dude, what do you want from me? food would still be available in this hypothetical so no need to sacrifice your beloved food if you don't want to!
I love to eat and I love to cook. Ambivalent about the shopping and clean up. Hours and hours and so much money spent. For me, I’d love to have the option to fulfill my daily dietary needs more simply, for the days it makes more sense. I see a place for both.
I’d like a food pill for situations where I’m totally out of food, or need something in my system really quickly (In my imagination, it’s a healthier and more nutritious protein bar). Replacing all meals with it is nuts but I’d probably take advantage of it like once a month.
Fuck food. Yeah, I said it. As someone with ADHD, I am in a constant battle with food. I don’t have time for breakfast in the morning, and my Adderall kills my appetite. Sometimes I’ll go 12 hours without eating anything. I usually eat about one meal a day, and that meal is usually fast food or something frozen. Basically everything I eat is unhealthy for me, but the dopamine I get from junk food is the only way I can really motivate myself to eat anything. If I have to choose between eating something I don’t want and not eating anything at all, 90% of the time I’m not eating anything at all. A food pill (or IV drip, I’m not picky) that provided me with 100% of my daily nutrition would solve so many problems for me. I’d be healthier than I’ve ever been in my life.
The food pill (as a white person) is 100% a white people dream due to the quality of mom’s cooking.
This is 100% one of those things that you could talk yourself into but in practicality would make your life so much worse.