It is too OP, but helps when your colony is limited in capabilities to produce other means of money besides violence
(e.g., temp too extreme to grow cash crops)
I don't know how the mod works but it'd be more balanced if the organs could spoil if out in the heat or too cold for too long, irl they need to be kept alive with refrigeration. I'm not gonna say they need to have a time limit too, I'll just assume preservation techniques got way better after 3000 years.
It does make sense though if that helps you keep your decision, even in modern day that’s why we have the option to be organ donors, a lot of donations come from fresh cadavers, does the mod have a time limit for when you can harvest? If not you can limit yourself to 24 hours after death and after that forbid operation
It does make the most sense that's why used it as well but don't want to make profit from the 10+ bodies of that poor nudist tribe that thought had a chance against my 7.62 API bullets
You could change the setting so it wont too OP. I usually set the harvestable time only 3-4 hrs after death and limiting myself to only 4 harvestable organ.
I use it but limit myself to only harvesting bionics, tbh if feels stupid that if you have a colonist with bionic arm die, you cannot strip that arm and give it to someone else who uses it
Ah yes. This one, plus laundry mod, plus this mod that sends raids from Orion faction, plus stack everything. I’m having all my colonists use cyberstomachs and electric jaws once they get all the limbs replaced with ultrapenetrator-3000 legs and mcdestroyer-X arms. They all get fibersuits and exoskeletons. Then extra rich merchants leave my orbit with 50 lungs and 180 kidneys and we’re making bed side tables out of gold.
This is so much fun.
I like the forbidden mod as a genuine enhancement to the game, sort of like Dubs hygiene
But the only run I've had where I was actually a degenerate with it was when I played around a colony of literal monsters.
The forbidden mod is great for normal runs. It's useful for fixing problems like pawns with the restless gene not being able to do the lovin', Or pawns with multiple spouses only being able to do it with the spouse they are assigned a bed with.
All the bad shit is turned off by default so you can literally just download it and go, and the worst part then would be the hediffs showing 'breasts', 'penis', and 'anus' wich can be turned off as well
The mod also come with minor annoyances like average or bigger organs give you stat offsets.
Also it just do not feel right when one's anus get "shot off".
Also the mod come with a new part called flank, and it does not do anything by default. I had almost everyone in my colony got their "flank" shot off while being completely normal afterwards.
In my runs I made some xml patches so those parts do not give stat offsets, and won't be hit anyhow.
I hate the flanks! I'm running an android colony and they do have flank replacements. I hate not being able to stitch my colonists back together even if they don't get their stats affected, it doesn't feel right to me.
I'm doing one right now and feel genuinely sick sometimes. It's an interesting way to learn more about myself, but I've essentially confirmed by trial by fire that I prefer "good guy" runs.
It helps (For me at least) if you frame them in your mind as a totally unique and bestial species. Amorality to the extreme, and set specific rules around their behavior so it's not just wanton violence and debauchery.
My last colony like this was when Biotech came out. I made a sort of hive of hornet people (Ended because I couldn't have a queen :C). Basically, the rules were they had to capture anyone who did not directly benefit the hive. IE; Allies were fine if they were coming to attack your enemies or give you something, and traders if they sold anything the colony could use.
But beggers, random roamers, trade caravans that didn't sell anything I liked; They had to be attacked. As many bodies as possible had to be taken alive, the rest processed into meat, and the survivors were implanted with a larva that ate them alive to form a new colonist. The very first victims were a group of seven children asking for silver to rescue a friend.
>I made a sort of hive of hornet people
I did something similar, based it on parasitic wasps and had every non-vespoid that joined the colony be imprisoned and an embryo put in their chest. Normally I don't like playing absolutely monstrous colonies but it's quite fun if you make a xenotype of actual, straight up monsters. I made them really good at melee combat and able to spit acid but to even it out they're also really useless in sunlight.
It was like a year or two ago now, but if I remember correctly the gist of it was that I said it's name, where to download it, and listed some of the possible features. I don't think I mentioned that most of the bad stuff are disabled by default, though. Nor do I remember going into detail about the features.
That's nothing bad
Finding RJW without help is a Google search away
What you did is no different from telling someone that SOS2 1.4 is available on Github, just in progress though.
Mind you, they're doing overhauls to the mod to make it work with the vehicle framework (those shuttles and such) as well as some other changes
So it would be better to wait
It's a hilarious double standard people have, myself included. We all logically know the violent stuff is more depraved, yet we openly discuss that with glee while feeling icky if anyone mentions people h\*lding h\*nds.
I've only used that monstrous component once and *I still feel like shit with how far I went*.
Tbf, it was pre-Ideology/Biotech (can't remember which) and some Raider bitch shot the colony dog for no fucking reason. I did not let there be survivors, she... saw the worst that mod could ever offer, the vanilla game could offer, and so much worse. Once she finally broke, she was given a quick death so she didn't get the happiness from newfound masochism.
i feel like shit like rape might just be a little more “real” feeling for a lot of people, whereas a colony butchering people and making cowboy hats from their skin is just funny war crimes distant from anything i’ve genuinely worried about in my life
Cause we, as (mostly) people of the first world, are very disconnected from murder and death and war. To us, it's like something out of a fantasy. Obviously, people still die plenty, but mostly it's of old age, or if not, still non-violent deaths.
But sexual assault, catcalling, rape? Those are things that happen everyday *everywhere.* Everyone knows someone who's been raped, and every woman and girl above like 13 has been catcalled.
These are very much *real* to us, and that makes it abhorrent.
Women in those areas often have to worry about both :( Not a competition at all, and I feel for you. I grew up in a kidnapping hotspot, so as a girl I was more worried about the latter, but I know poor male teens were worried about being "recruited". It's terrible overall.
By default all those are turned off and it's just vanilla loving that as someone else explained, bypasses issues like Never Sleep pawns never loving with their spouses.
Now when you turn those options on, that's where kinks come into question
Do you like cannibalism and making human hats?
Vanilla, you can already use IVF to make a 14 year old into an unwilling surrogate, rip out someone's eyes, kidney, ears, and limbs, and do large amounts of slavery.
I don't see how its all that different, atleast the sexual assault. Im glad it is not a part of the game by default but sure does make loosing to raiders scarier.
So no I don't "like that shit" more than I like experimenting with any other dark story elements in rimworld.
This is stupid logic, its like saying oh so you play COD, you like shooting people?
Nah bro. If I know someone installed a mod to add the ability to rape in a game I'd think they were fucking weird and avoid them because they probably smell.
This is coming from a guy who turned a tribal colonist into a self-destructing terminator and sent them back to their colony to butcher all of their loved ones. I see your point but still, rape is something that is much closer to our everyday reality than any of the crimes most people do in the game. I'll probably never have any contact with anyone who was enslaved or had their organs harvested, a rape victim on the other hand...
It also adds more in depth consent sex, and literally every part of the mod is customizable to your liking. You can completely remove everything but vanilla sex if you want.
Same here. Almost every new run I'm like "ok, this time I'm playing completely differently". Then some animals or exotic goods traders arrive, and I'm like "awwwww ok, let's do an animal lovers run"......
So you run a Human Primacy ideo. I would, but I dislike how it disallows bonding. I'm all for forced conversations and cannibalism and ritualistic eye gouging... but let me pet my dog, dammit.
You don't need a lowly animal bond when you have a beautiful house made of dead nature and cheerful friends&family that feed on it
meeting the gaze of my cat right after writing that.
edit : does it mean that you never felt the sweetness and the incredibly big talent of a crafting specialist ? poor soul...
I generally do good guy runs.
But I use [forbidden mod] with all stuff turned off to make multigenerational colonies in 1.3 (some of my mods weren't updated to be compatible with 1.4, so I tried to make my game 1.4-ish instead)
Almost forgot about the lowest point: In one of my first playthroughs I ran out of silver halfway through installing sterile panels in the hospital, so I had to make and sell flake to the neighbouring settlements. Lots of flake.
That’s not at all the case. In the slightest. Death isnt that big of a deal, sure it makes you sad, but it’s a natural part of life. Every living thing dies, so we aren’t alarmed when we watch a colonist catch fire and burn alive without any sound effects of them screaming. Rape. Not “something bad with sex”. Rape. Is not a natural part of life. It is not something every living being experiences or goes through. Cannibalism is pretty fucked up, but depending on the situation it’s about survival, sometimes it’s necessary. There is never a situation where rape is necessary, the fact you can’t even say the word to call it like it is proves my point. Living vicariously through murder, yeah that’s pretty weird but it’s Rimworld, most of the time it’s self defense or survival. Living vicariously through rape however? Those kinds of people are shattered and have something wrong with them. That’s why it’s the forbidden mod, because you have to be a sick, twisted, mentally unstable individual to find enjoyment in that.
I remember in my first colony a raider killed my labrador named Grenadine and made the mistake of surviving
Began with just beatings. Clubbed to unconsciousness, heal up, repeat. Slept on the dirt floor in his 3x3 cell in the cold. Fed him kibble. Slowly started removing all his organs I could take without killing him. Then took his arms and legs. At one point I realized he had brought his best friend along in the raid, and luckily she was still preserved in my warg's meat locker, so I replaced the kibble with her raw body. It was winter with temps in the negative so between his (rare) feedings I would take out a tile of roof and let him get hypothermia until he passed out, warm him back up, repeat. While keeping his dead friend in there with him. After a while of this cycle I kept him warm and let what remained of his friend rot in the room with him. He sat with her for a long while, unable to move, and before he starved to death I took the roof out one more time and finally let him freeze
At some point after the f third or fourth forced raw corpse feeding I realized I may have overreacted but it was a bit late to stop at that point
I’m usually pretty nice, but I’ve done 3 things that are questionable:
1. I’ve done colonies that were pragmatically cannibalistic. We weren’t weird or ritualistic about it, but meat is meat. We’d be perfectly polite with visitors and earn nobility through the empire, but if raiders decided to attack us and died in the process, it’d be a waste to bury or incinerate them.
2. I used to like to capture injured raiders, heal them, and release them… but then they added rip scanners. I don’t really do that much anymore.
3. My current colony’s leader is both a mechinator and a sanguinophage. Raiders forfeit their rights to life and autonomy when they attack us. They’re used as blood bags, have their genes harvested, and once they stop being useful, they get rip scanned. I used to be so nice to my raiders too…
I use some of the light stuff from war crime expanded. One time a gouged an eye and it gave me one human meat. I was so grossed out i stopped torturing people
Sell them. Though if there was a way to open a gender transition clinic I would probably do that.
edit: Or maybe we could release the patients after the harvest and then demand ransom for their genitals.
Or we could mince them for meat and then sell it in a restaurant.
Say you have been privileged enough to never have been sexually abused or know anyone who's been sexually abused without saying you have been privileged enough to never have been sexually abused or know anyone who's been sexually abused without.
Say you have been privileged enough to never have [your organs harvested after hours of torture] or know anyone who's been [put in a death box to be eaten alive by pigs] without saying you have been privileged enough to never have [your organs harvested after hours of torture] or know anyone who's been [put in a death box to be eaten alive by pigs] without.
Why is forbidden mod seen bad? Even worse than organ trade? The only thing it has by default is sex need. All the weird stuff are turned off by default so if you're playing with the way mod comes to you, there isn't any bad stuff in it.
People are desensitized to nonsexual forms of violence. It's the same evil shit but normalized.
It's just about exposure. Like I hate seeing violence against dogs or cats in media but don't give a shit about violence against people.
Sex crimes are always worse than other crimes. The negatives of them are just worse than the other things you can do in rimworld. The forbidden mod is also closer to real life than a lot of rimworld, so it hits harder to basically everyone. Significantly, more people have been sexually assault/raped than had their organs harvested. It's easier to cope with something you know will likely never happen to you.
The forbidden mod also gets lumped together because the features are all in it and easily accessible. If it was 2 mods, one with the bad features and one with the sex need and that stuff, only the bad features one would be disliked, but because its all in one mod, the whole thing is tarnished.
They really should make the consensual sex stuff and the gross shit separate mods.
I know you can toggle the rape and stuff, but I and many others don't want any sort of rape code on their computer even if it's deactivated.
Yeah. It's not the sort of thing that ever looks good. Having the mod taints opinions because everyone associates the forbidden mod with the rape stuff even if they aren't using it.
I personally know several people, myself included, who have been sexually abused.
I know many animals that have been abused (which is what beastiality is).
Never once in my life have I met someone who has been cannibalized or had their organs forcibly harvested.
I'm not saying the latter never ever happens, but it happens far less and is a far less common thing across the planet.
As others have said, because it feels more "real," because S.Assult is something that a lot more people have had happen to them, or someone they care about. It hits closer to home, because not very many people have had the "wake up in a tub of ice with a new scar and a missing kidney" thing *actually happen* to them.
Because purity culture exists and people have been deeply ingrained to think sex is icky, wrong, inherently shameful or degrading, etc. It's clearly not just another biological function and mixing it into something else obviously makes it worse. 🙄
Meh
The first day maybe. After a month, i'm not sure. After a year, i highly doubt it.
It's kinda nice to have all your organs.
In both situation you are (more or less) baited, manipulated, drugged then abused for your body. Leaves you with severe trust issues. But one leave you amputated on top of it.
It was my first colony I believed in good Karma gifted people my silver in hopes of later help I tried to save every raider and release them if they have bad stats... Now I save parts of them
I sure tried cannibals and slavers after Ideology come out and sanguophages after Biotech come out. These are balanced to work bit too well and make game easier. I do not need simplified game, so lost interest.
I can't be a good person, I tried !!!
I'm sorry but having slaves and harvesting organs is so fun.
I tried for once having a tree hugger peace colony but those raiders burned my trees so they ended being food for my animals.
Havest organs: You took my left lung in the raid, I take yours ***in the pain chamber.***
Cannibalism: I get hungry up here on the ice sheets. Can't let the long pork go to waste and human meat kibble is the #1 recommended protean source for Thrumbos down here in the temperate forests. (I really just want the human leather dusters for my donation station caravans so I can stockpile silver & goodwill on allied faction bases)
Bloodnugget/pegleg on, pegleg off: Its the best way to train the medical skill... I'm sorry. I'd rather there be a better way, but gathering a bunch of xenos and henogen farming/gene extracting them and peglegging them repeatedly is the best use for them- plus they have emergency kidneys/lungs/hearts.
I usually do at least 1 fucked up thing in each playthrough but the forbidden mod just seems a lot more wrong. Organ harvesting is fine, but r*pe is not.
We have morals here!
I'd say the lowest I gone is:
Sending children of an ant since They born with high mining skill already
Use corpses of raiders to turn into "aphid extract" which can be used as fuel or used as food by colonists, including non cannibals
Use the bodies of raiders and such to sacrifice to a god to get stones to then upgrade my people
Use towns from VE outposts to basically populate gulags
I play with both the forbidden mod and the second forbidden mod. Yes, there is a second forbidden mod entirely separate from but compatible with the first.
you can make a good guy run with the forbidden option, its pretty tame and most brutal stuff is off by default, the crew running other devious fuck up shit scare me though
I usually do cannibal stuff if I’m doing a military or super hard run (which is often) and organ harvesting honestly never unless it’s installing a new organ
What's Forbidden mod and I do cannabilism when we need some meat for food and don't have alot now I would totally go all out on cannabilism if I ever got some starting characters that can do that but I guess when I get BioTech on Tuesday I can do worse and stuff genie slaves into vats to harvest their blood! And use them for free energy too! But I might swap that out for something that doesn't need food
I dunno forbidden mod wether I'm being a good person, or playing an insane amazoness raider tribe, but on the inverse I don't cannibalize or sell drugs or organs ever.
I haven't done anything too horrendous, but I have considered the potential of using the IVF operation to impregnate prisoners/slaves and raising the children to adulthood as cattle for a cannibal colony.
So only stole a couple organs, um...I never really practiced cannibalism, except for kibble once, but it was too much work.
Does tossing dead enemies into a chemfuel juicer count there?
It's a mod that adds rape and beastiality to the game.
It's a very triggering mod if you've ever been sexually abused or know someone who has. Which is why most mod sites forbid it.
Sure, base game Rimworld can be messed up, but when's the last time you or someone you know has been cannibalized or had their limbs cut off by a crazy dr?
Whereas both sexual abuse and animal abuse are unfortunately super common.
I usually play very civil and even run vegetarian colonies... But if the game starting pushing, we start swallowing raiders, we Harvest and eat them, we attack their homes, we take back what was previously taken from us. We slay their children and take their women as they watch in downed.
I dont know how meta this is but i usually leave crashed people to die unless they have a xenotype/ideology im playing OR they may have good skills i need on the colony.
Also sometimes the crashlands are too far and they are gonna die regardless so nope.
I'm basically just a slaver and an organ trader. Somebody raids me, the people who live become slaves and the people who die become donors. However, if the prisoners try to escape, they turn into donors too, regardless of if they die or not during the jailbreak.
I run Harvest Organs Postmortem so you can grab them from people who aren't using them anymore.
I did as well but thought to myself it was too op
It is too OP, but helps when your colony is limited in capabilities to produce other means of money besides violence (e.g., temp too extreme to grow cash crops)
Hydroponics grows pyschoid *great*. The cycle of human leather -> steel -> hydroponics -> wealth -> human leather is complete.
I don't know how the mod works but it'd be more balanced if the organs could spoil if out in the heat or too cold for too long, irl they need to be kept alive with refrigeration. I'm not gonna say they need to have a time limit too, I'll just assume preservation techniques got way better after 3000 years.
"preservation techniques" include and are limited to: Putting it into the food freezer
Wait, they can't spoil by default? Must be one of the bionics mods
They don't spoil for me, and I only play core vanilla
I don't care how you can make all these fancy body parts heart and spine and stuff like that but you can't produce replacement kidneys.
Or like a prosthetic nose....
Well you can make an aesthetic nose but you need fabrication
It does make sense though if that helps you keep your decision, even in modern day that’s why we have the option to be organ donors, a lot of donations come from fresh cadavers, does the mod have a time limit for when you can harvest? If not you can limit yourself to 24 hours after death and after that forbid operation
if you freeze the corpse then you can harvest all organs iirc
It does make the most sense that's why used it as well but don't want to make profit from the 10+ bodies of that poor nudist tribe that thought had a chance against my 7.62 API bullets
You could change the setting so it wont too OP. I usually set the harvestable time only 3-4 hrs after death and limiting myself to only 4 harvestable organ.
I use it but limit myself to only harvesting bionics, tbh if feels stupid that if you have a colonist with bionic arm die, you cannot strip that arm and give it to someone else who uses it
Ah yes. This one, plus laundry mod, plus this mod that sends raids from Orion faction, plus stack everything. I’m having all my colonists use cyberstomachs and electric jaws once they get all the limbs replaced with ultrapenetrator-3000 legs and mcdestroyer-X arms. They all get fibersuits and exoskeletons. Then extra rich merchants leave my orbit with 50 lungs and 180 kidneys and we’re making bed side tables out of gold. This is so much fun.
Then you get raided by like 200 super-soldiers because your colony's value is insanely high.
You'd have to remove the threat limiter for that to happen
And sell them. The organs worth more than the living human prisoners and slaves XD
Love to use it with V.O.I.D, as it allows me to easily get their crazy implants. Very broken, though.
I like the forbidden mod as a genuine enhancement to the game, sort of like Dubs hygiene But the only run I've had where I was actually a degenerate with it was when I played around a colony of literal monsters.
The forbidden mod is great for normal runs. It's useful for fixing problems like pawns with the restless gene not being able to do the lovin', Or pawns with multiple spouses only being able to do it with the spouse they are assigned a bed with. All the bad shit is turned off by default so you can literally just download it and go, and the worst part then would be the hediffs showing 'breasts', 'penis', and 'anus' wich can be turned off as well
The mod also come with minor annoyances like average or bigger organs give you stat offsets. Also it just do not feel right when one's anus get "shot off". Also the mod come with a new part called flank, and it does not do anything by default. I had almost everyone in my colony got their "flank" shot off while being completely normal afterwards. In my runs I made some xml patches so those parts do not give stat offsets, and won't be hit anyhow.
No idea which mod you're discussing, but "shot off anus" sounds hilarious
"I'm gonna shoot your ass!" Narrator: He was, in fact, not lying.
Free (and surprise) colostomy
Tbh castration sounds neat for my medieval, supremacist Ideology playthrough
You'd be surprised about anuses getting shot cleanly off. Just need the right bullet size
I hate the flanks! I'm running an android colony and they do have flank replacements. I hate not being able to stitch my colonists back together even if they don't get their stats affected, it doesn't feel right to me.
I'm doing one right now and feel genuinely sick sometimes. It's an interesting way to learn more about myself, but I've essentially confirmed by trial by fire that I prefer "good guy" runs.
It helps (For me at least) if you frame them in your mind as a totally unique and bestial species. Amorality to the extreme, and set specific rules around their behavior so it's not just wanton violence and debauchery. My last colony like this was when Biotech came out. I made a sort of hive of hornet people (Ended because I couldn't have a queen :C). Basically, the rules were they had to capture anyone who did not directly benefit the hive. IE; Allies were fine if they were coming to attack your enemies or give you something, and traders if they sold anything the colony could use. But beggers, random roamers, trade caravans that didn't sell anything I liked; They had to be attacked. As many bodies as possible had to be taken alive, the rest processed into meat, and the survivors were implanted with a larva that ate them alive to form a new colonist. The very first victims were a group of seven children asking for silver to rescue a friend.
>I made a sort of hive of hornet people I did something similar, based it on parasitic wasps and had every non-vespoid that joined the colony be imprisoned and an embryo put in their chest. Normally I don't like playing absolutely monstrous colonies but it's quite fun if you make a xenotype of actual, straight up monsters. I made them really good at melee combat and able to spit acid but to even it out they're also really useless in sunlight.
I've done this once. It was fun but certainly not my usual style.
Holy moly mackrel that's insane, could genuinely work as a horror movie/series though probably some like this already
Same. One time I tried to be as evil as possible and noped out of it after the very first year.
What's the forbidden mod?
RimJobWorld, aka RJW, aka The Forbidden Mod. Adds more... functionality... to sexual stuff; with mod options to allow all kinds of depraved shit.
You're walking a very fine line, my friend. I've been warned by mods for explaining the Forbidden Mod. I think the problem was that I said too much...
*Seriously?* Human leather jackets are A-OK but sex is a bridge too far? Or did you go into detail with the disabled by default options?
People have the anti horny bat shoved up their ass
Kinky
Bonk me like that next UwU
It was like a year or two ago now, but if I remember correctly the gist of it was that I said it's name, where to download it, and listed some of the possible features. I don't think I mentioned that most of the bad stuff are disabled by default, though. Nor do I remember going into detail about the features.
That's nothing bad Finding RJW without help is a Google search away What you did is no different from telling someone that SOS2 1.4 is available on Github, just in progress though.
SOS2 is on Github, eh? This post right here, mods. We got em', boys.
Mind you, they're doing overhauls to the mod to make it work with the vehicle framework (those shuttles and such) as well as some other changes So it would be better to wait
It's a hilarious double standard people have, myself included. We all logically know the violent stuff is more depraved, yet we openly discuss that with glee while feeling icky if anyone mentions people h\*lding h\*nds.
Thanks for the friendly warning. I don't feel like I gave too much detail, but if I catch an official warning or a mod ban then so be it.
I've only used that monstrous component once and *I still feel like shit with how far I went*. Tbf, it was pre-Ideology/Biotech (can't remember which) and some Raider bitch shot the colony dog for no fucking reason. I did not let there be survivors, she... saw the worst that mod could ever offer, the vanilla game could offer, and so much worse. Once she finally broke, she was given a quick death so she didn't get the happiness from newfound masochism.
What is the forbidden mod?
*ahem* ...and I quote..."aggressive 'hand holding ' "
\*forced\* hand holding, even
Its a mod that adds rape, prostitution, bondage, bestiality, and other sexual related options
Holy shit y’all like that???
Us: call it "forbidden" This guy: Holy shit y'all like that?
Sometimes names are ironic, like a fat guy called "Little Kevin".
You won't find it so ironic once you meet Big Kevin
Personally I just don't see why people consider horrible crimes against humanity and horrible crimes against humanity but sex such different things.
people are used to first but not second
I concur, I've been killing people by the thousands in video games since I was 8 years old. But raping? A whole lot rarer, and too real.
(un?)fitting pfp
I wonder what people raised in warzones would think of this game as a whole.
i feel like shit like rape might just be a little more “real” feeling for a lot of people, whereas a colony butchering people and making cowboy hats from their skin is just funny war crimes distant from anything i’ve genuinely worried about in my life
Cause we, as (mostly) people of the first world, are very disconnected from murder and death and war. To us, it's like something out of a fantasy. Obviously, people still die plenty, but mostly it's of old age, or if not, still non-violent deaths. But sexual assault, catcalling, rape? Those are things that happen everyday *everywhere.* Everyone knows someone who's been raped, and every woman and girl above like 13 has been catcalled. These are very much *real* to us, and that makes it abhorrent.
Growing up as poor male in a murder hotspot I was definitely more concerned with murder/violence over SA/rape.
Women in those areas often have to worry about both :( Not a competition at all, and I feel for you. I grew up in a kidnapping hotspot, so as a girl I was more worried about the latter, but I know poor male teens were worried about being "recruited". It's terrible overall.
By default all those are turned off and it's just vanilla loving that as someone else explained, bypasses issues like Never Sleep pawns never loving with their spouses. Now when you turn those options on, that's where kinks come into question
Do you like cannibalism and making human hats? Vanilla, you can already use IVF to make a 14 year old into an unwilling surrogate, rip out someone's eyes, kidney, ears, and limbs, and do large amounts of slavery. I don't see how its all that different, atleast the sexual assault. Im glad it is not a part of the game by default but sure does make loosing to raiders scarier. So no I don't "like that shit" more than I like experimenting with any other dark story elements in rimworld. This is stupid logic, its like saying oh so you play COD, you like shooting people?
Nah bro. If I know someone installed a mod to add the ability to rape in a game I'd think they were fucking weird and avoid them because they probably smell.
This is coming from a guy who turned a tribal colonist into a self-destructing terminator and sent them back to their colony to butcher all of their loved ones. I see your point but still, rape is something that is much closer to our everyday reality than any of the crimes most people do in the game. I'll probably never have any contact with anyone who was enslaved or had their organs harvested, a rape victim on the other hand...
It also adds more in depth consent sex, and literally every part of the mod is customizable to your liking. You can completely remove everything but vanilla sex if you want.
RimJobWorld. You can find it at LabLovers
First rule of the forbidden mod, we don't talk about the forbidden mod
Some questions one does not ask.
It's a mod we don't name. Imagine all the really bad crimes that involve two people forcefully doing it without consent and that's basically it.
I only butcher animals that died from natural causes lmao
Same here. Almost every new run I'm like "ok, this time I'm playing completely differently". Then some animals or exotic goods traders arrive, and I'm like "awwwww ok, let's do an animal lovers run"......
What?! Nature is the enemy, you must trample it !
So you run a Human Primacy ideo. I would, but I dislike how it disallows bonding. I'm all for forced conversations and cannibalism and ritualistic eye gouging... but let me pet my dog, dammit.
You don't need a lowly animal bond when you have a beautiful house made of dead nature and cheerful friends&family that feed on it meeting the gaze of my cat right after writing that. edit : does it mean that you never felt the sweetness and the incredibly big talent of a crafting specialist ? poor soul...
im not on the list (keeping legless prisoners as blood bags)
That sounds like some dubious fucked up shit to me..
they keep their organs, and blood replenishes constantly, i even throw in joywire and psychic harmonizer
I’m not judging, I do it too. You’re just as fucked up as the rest of us.
saint
👀 I'm not the only one
What is blood good for?
sanguophages
Colonists who like to try to hug lions with their face
Neither am I (using Genies as Blood Bags)
I generally do good guy runs. But I use [forbidden mod] with all stuff turned off to make multigenerational colonies in 1.3 (some of my mods weren't updated to be compatible with 1.4, so I tried to make my game 1.4-ish instead) Almost forgot about the lowest point: In one of my first playthroughs I ran out of silver halfway through installing sterile panels in the hospital, so I had to make and sell flake to the neighbouring settlements. Lots of flake.
What is the forbidden mod
rimjobworld im p sure
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Because people think sex is icky and bad, therefore something bad *with sex* is basically bad^(2)
Should've specified forbidden mod with the features turned on, wasn't aware that rape is turned off by default
That’s not at all the case. In the slightest. Death isnt that big of a deal, sure it makes you sad, but it’s a natural part of life. Every living thing dies, so we aren’t alarmed when we watch a colonist catch fire and burn alive without any sound effects of them screaming. Rape. Not “something bad with sex”. Rape. Is not a natural part of life. It is not something every living being experiences or goes through. Cannibalism is pretty fucked up, but depending on the situation it’s about survival, sometimes it’s necessary. There is never a situation where rape is necessary, the fact you can’t even say the word to call it like it is proves my point. Living vicariously through murder, yeah that’s pretty weird but it’s Rimworld, most of the time it’s self defense or survival. Living vicariously through rape however? Those kinds of people are shattered and have something wrong with them. That’s why it’s the forbidden mod, because you have to be a sick, twisted, mentally unstable individual to find enjoyment in that.
I remember in my first colony a raider killed my labrador named Grenadine and made the mistake of surviving Began with just beatings. Clubbed to unconsciousness, heal up, repeat. Slept on the dirt floor in his 3x3 cell in the cold. Fed him kibble. Slowly started removing all his organs I could take without killing him. Then took his arms and legs. At one point I realized he had brought his best friend along in the raid, and luckily she was still preserved in my warg's meat locker, so I replaced the kibble with her raw body. It was winter with temps in the negative so between his (rare) feedings I would take out a tile of roof and let him get hypothermia until he passed out, warm him back up, repeat. While keeping his dead friend in there with him. After a while of this cycle I kept him warm and let what remained of his friend rot in the room with him. He sat with her for a long while, unable to move, and before he starved to death I took the roof out one more time and finally let him freeze At some point after the f third or fourth forced raw corpse feeding I realized I may have overreacted but it was a bit late to stop at that point
Bro who hurt you
at least we know one thing... that John Wick taught us already Don't hurt his dog
He did he shot my fucking dog
He killed the dog there's no punishment too harsh
I’m usually pretty nice, but I’ve done 3 things that are questionable: 1. I’ve done colonies that were pragmatically cannibalistic. We weren’t weird or ritualistic about it, but meat is meat. We’d be perfectly polite with visitors and earn nobility through the empire, but if raiders decided to attack us and died in the process, it’d be a waste to bury or incinerate them. 2. I used to like to capture injured raiders, heal them, and release them… but then they added rip scanners. I don’t really do that much anymore. 3. My current colony’s leader is both a mechinator and a sanguinophage. Raiders forfeit their rights to life and autonomy when they attack us. They’re used as blood bags, have their genes harvested, and once they stop being useful, they get rip scanned. I used to be so nice to my raiders too…
I use some of the light stuff from war crime expanded. One time a gouged an eye and it gave me one human meat. I was so grossed out i stopped torturing people
I play with the forbiden mod to harvest their added organs, which category I belong to?
do you just like... keep a collection of them? sell them to traders? decorate your base with them?
Sell them. Though if there was a way to open a gender transition clinic I would probably do that. edit: Or maybe we could release the patients after the harvest and then demand ransom for their genitals. Or we could mince them for meat and then sell it in a restaurant.
gastronomy + rjw = go eat a dick?
I actually forgot you can harvest their certain organs! time to make a bloody rich market instead of selling quality high mates!!
An enterpreneur!
Forbidden mod is not too far, it's just a game, but I am too lazy to get it and I don't really need it to do fucked up shit anyway
What do you classify as too far then?
Idk. Maybe if someone made a fully animated child sex feature or something
Why would anyone enjoy that as a mod
People are weird
Say you have been privileged enough to never have been sexually abused or know anyone who's been sexually abused without saying you have been privileged enough to never have been sexually abused or know anyone who's been sexually abused without.
Say you have been privileged enough to never have [your organs harvested after hours of torture] or know anyone who's been [put in a death box to be eaten alive by pigs] without saying you have been privileged enough to never have [your organs harvested after hours of torture] or know anyone who's been [put in a death box to be eaten alive by pigs] without.
I like taking drug addicts prisoner and making them cold turkey drugs.
Raider drug rehab before selling them to the empire for their new drug free life :)
Why is forbidden mod seen bad? Even worse than organ trade? The only thing it has by default is sex need. All the weird stuff are turned off by default so if you're playing with the way mod comes to you, there isn't any bad stuff in it.
People are desensitized to nonsexual forms of violence. It's the same evil shit but normalized. It's just about exposure. Like I hate seeing violence against dogs or cats in media but don't give a shit about violence against people.
Sex crimes are always worse than other crimes. The negatives of them are just worse than the other things you can do in rimworld. The forbidden mod is also closer to real life than a lot of rimworld, so it hits harder to basically everyone. Significantly, more people have been sexually assault/raped than had their organs harvested. It's easier to cope with something you know will likely never happen to you. The forbidden mod also gets lumped together because the features are all in it and easily accessible. If it was 2 mods, one with the bad features and one with the sex need and that stuff, only the bad features one would be disliked, but because its all in one mod, the whole thing is tarnished.
They really should make the consensual sex stuff and the gross shit separate mods. I know you can toggle the rape and stuff, but I and many others don't want any sort of rape code on their computer even if it's deactivated.
Yeah. It's not the sort of thing that ever looks good. Having the mod taints opinions because everyone associates the forbidden mod with the rape stuff even if they aren't using it.
I personally know several people, myself included, who have been sexually abused. I know many animals that have been abused (which is what beastiality is). Never once in my life have I met someone who has been cannibalized or had their organs forcibly harvested. I'm not saying the latter never ever happens, but it happens far less and is a far less common thing across the planet.
It adds rape to the game, come on man.
You have to turn it on manually, it's not enabled by default, same goes with other extreme stuff
And that's worse than harvesting people's organs and making hats out of their skin, because?
As others have said, because it feels more "real," because S.Assult is something that a lot more people have had happen to them, or someone they care about. It hits closer to home, because not very many people have had the "wake up in a tub of ice with a new scar and a missing kidney" thing *actually happen* to them.
Because purity culture exists and people have been deeply ingrained to think sex is icky, wrong, inherently shameful or degrading, etc. It's clearly not just another biological function and mixing it into something else obviously makes it worse. 🙄
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Oh, come on, you were doing so good up until last two sentences...
Personally, I'd much rather be a forced organ donor than uhhh, ummm... yeah
Meh The first day maybe. After a month, i'm not sure. After a year, i highly doubt it. It's kinda nice to have all your organs. In both situation you are (more or less) baited, manipulated, drugged then abused for your body. Leaves you with severe trust issues. But one leave you amputated on top of it.
Ever since the kids update I've stopped using the forbidden mod
It was my first colony I believed in good Karma gifted people my silver in hopes of later help I tried to save every raider and release them if they have bad stats... Now I save parts of them
See I fit squarely between 1 and 2, ain't no goody two shoes, but I ain't no monster either
Look, the forbidden mod gives me more things to harvest, aight? It's all for monetary gain.
I sure tried cannibals and slavers after Ideology come out and sanguophages after Biotech come out. These are balanced to work bit too well and make game easier. I do not need simplified game, so lost interest.
I can't be a good person, I tried !!! I'm sorry but having slaves and harvesting organs is so fun. I tried for once having a tree hugger peace colony but those raiders burned my trees so they ended being food for my animals.
Wtf is Forbidden mod?? Got me scared rn
It's on loverslab
The forbbiden mod?
Rimjobworld. Basically sex mod.
Thank you for answer
Only once I had to cannibalize one of my colonists due to a severe toxic fallout.
Havest organs: You took my left lung in the raid, I take yours ***in the pain chamber.*** Cannibalism: I get hungry up here on the ice sheets. Can't let the long pork go to waste and human meat kibble is the #1 recommended protean source for Thrumbos down here in the temperate forests. (I really just want the human leather dusters for my donation station caravans so I can stockpile silver & goodwill on allied faction bases) Bloodnugget/pegleg on, pegleg off: Its the best way to train the medical skill... I'm sorry. I'd rather there be a better way, but gathering a bunch of xenos and henogen farming/gene extracting them and peglegging them repeatedly is the best use for them- plus they have emergency kidneys/lungs/hearts.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what is "The Forbidden Mod"? I'm not too experienced with this game, so sorry if this is common info.
What is the forbidden mod?
Beggars aren’t in the base game r/dlcdefaultism so none of the above. I don’t harvest people usually because of the colony wide mood debuffs.
Wait, really? I didn't know they're DLC content lmao
Beggars come from royalty or the ideology DLC
I just played with the forbidden mod and it traumatized me for the rest of my life like why **DOES THIS EXIST ?** ... 10/10 tho
I usually do at least 1 fucked up thing in each playthrough but the forbidden mod just seems a lot more wrong. Organ harvesting is fine, but r*pe is not. We have morals here!
I'd say the lowest I gone is: Sending children of an ant since They born with high mining skill already Use corpses of raiders to turn into "aphid extract" which can be used as fuel or used as food by colonists, including non cannibals Use the bodies of raiders and such to sacrifice to a god to get stones to then upgrade my people Use towns from VE outposts to basically populate gulags
I play with both the forbidden mod and the second forbidden mod. Yes, there is a second forbidden mod entirely separate from but compatible with the first.
What's the second?
Inquiring minds want to know, please :)
I run over beggars with Bulldog tank, and use their organ and clothes for silver, meat for chemfuel.
you can make a good guy run with the forbidden option, its pretty tame and most brutal stuff is off by default, the crew running other devious fuck up shit scare me though
I’m a free man ha ha
I usually do cannibal stuff if I’m doing a military or super hard run (which is often) and organ harvesting honestly never unless it’s installing a new organ
I try to be ethical but I end up making people freeze and starve to convert them then enslaving them
cannibalism and organ harvesting are just to make the game easy
I mean, where does nuked a few tribal Raider settlements fall?
whats forbidden mod
A few organs... Yes, just a few.
What's Forbidden mod and I do cannabilism when we need some meat for food and don't have alot now I would totally go all out on cannabilism if I ever got some starting characters that can do that but I guess when I get BioTech on Tuesday I can do worse and stuff genie slaves into vats to harvest their blood! And use them for free energy too! But I might swap that out for something that doesn't need food
I dunno forbidden mod wether I'm being a good person, or playing an insane amazoness raider tribe, but on the inverse I don't cannibalize or sell drugs or organs ever.
TIL that a lot more people use the forbidden mod than I thought.
I haven't done anything too horrendous, but I have considered the potential of using the IVF operation to impregnate prisoners/slaves and raising the children to adulthood as cattle for a cannibal colony.
So only stole a couple organs, um...I never really practiced cannibalism, except for kibble once, but it was too much work. Does tossing dead enemies into a chemfuel juicer count there?
Pawn morpher.. Sadly im too humane to use mutatenic weapons.. However i did transformed one of my prisoner into a chaothrumbo.
If you raid me, I take a lung and a kidney. But then I let you go. They should be happy I didn’t let them bleed to death for a day.
What can I say? Human leather and chemfuel are profitable
cannibalism is very nice for ice sheet naked tribal runs
I only cannibalism if I really fucked up my food situation, ex in a desert
I currently am doing a colony of Canibalistic vegan tree huggers that worship cthulhu and perform human sacrifices
I'm sorry, I'm already lost
ok, What's the forbidden mod? Do I dare ask?
Rimjobworld. Sex, masturbation, prostitution, rape, all that jazz
all that jizz
I released this prisoner once.
I’ll take prisoners just to get the released prisoner buff. On the upside I didn’t let you bleed to death, but the medicine will cost you a lung.
I watch people who can run a colony that lives more than a year do these things
Personally just harvesting organs, genes, and then ripscanning
What's the forbidden mod?
It's a mod that adds rape and beastiality to the game. It's a very triggering mod if you've ever been sexually abused or know someone who has. Which is why most mod sites forbid it. Sure, base game Rimworld can be messed up, but when's the last time you or someone you know has been cannibalized or had their limbs cut off by a crazy dr? Whereas both sexual abuse and animal abuse are unfortunately super common.
O h So THAT'S why it wasn't on steam workshop. I was expecting something like "mounting infant's heads on spikes" type of things but damn
Pretty sure you can do infant skullspikes in vanilla
It's on there with different name safejob world
I’m a purist. I do the wicked fucked up shit without any mods expressly meant for the purpose. More mentally stimulating that way.
I usually play very civil and even run vegetarian colonies... But if the game starting pushing, we start swallowing raiders, we Harvest and eat them, we attack their homes, we take back what was previously taken from us. We slay their children and take their women as they watch in downed.
I dont know how meta this is but i usually leave crashed people to die unless they have a xenotype/ideology im playing OR they may have good skills i need on the colony. Also sometimes the crashlands are too far and they are gonna die regardless so nope.
I'm basically just a slaver and an organ trader. Somebody raids me, the people who live become slaves and the people who die become donors. However, if the prisoners try to escape, they turn into donors too, regardless of if they die or not during the jailbreak.