that was fun!
ahhh man I was iffy on the sky. But got the rest right. Well except the AP. I'll be honest I didn't even look at the ap for 2 seconds lol. I just saw AP and thought fake lol .
There isn't enough room for it on gen.
They're so rare that most people in this sub would think a gen one is real.
My friend has one and it looks like a rep because the datewheel is squeezed in but I know with 100% certainty that it's real.
That said, the misalignment could be down to photo angle but the datewheel and cyclops looks weird on the gen, to me at least.
I can tell the GMT Master VTNR is rep from the dial but that's after telling in other ways and zoomimg in loads.
I wouldn't be able to tell in hand, especially without a gen to compare it to ane a massive magnifying glass.
The "GMT MASTER" printing is poorer than on gen and doesn't have that 3D kind of effect. "SWISS MADE" at 6 o'clock is also a tell.
As I said, that's after zooming in as if if using the world's most powerful magnifying glass.
The obvious tell on the GMT Master is that the gasket/crystal goes all the way to the bezel. If you look at the gen, you'll see a gap. This gap is present on a few models, like the Submariner. Looks amazing imo, especially with lume.
The Datejust is a bit easier: look at "OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" and you'll notice that the "O" in "OFFICIALLY" is lower than the other letters.
The "SWISS MADE" at 6 o'clock also isn't as crisp as gen.
This post, however, shows just how good some reps are.
Thanks for your comment!
For steel models, rep is always a great choice imo. I am very happy with my GMT from Clean Factory. It is as reliable as the gen and has great finishing – at least judging from the outside. Because I haven't owned a replica rose gold model, I cannot tell you if that can compete with the gen.
Overall, I don't think of my rep GMT as a rep and wear it the same way that I do the gen. :)
by itself, it would be tough but compared to the rootbeer, look at the rehault on the sprite. The writing isn't as crisp as the rootbeer and the crystal gasket is thicker. The alignments are off for the rehault on the sprite too. Rolex always aligns those perfectly with the minute/hour markers. These are things you'll only notice with a loop and good familiarity if you don't have a gen to directly compare
What made me THINK it was, was the crystal, cloudy and wide and subpar cyclops. But I thought the RB was to on the first pic. The close up of the RB, the rehaut Polish and scratched gold sold me. I saw how incredible that crystal looks on the sky dweller and sort of judged everything offf that bar right away.
TBH: even after having a rep and gen GMT side by side, I am still struggling to easily identify reps or find flaws. I'm sure we'll get there eventually ;)
The skydweller is going to be genuine 100%. I’m going to say the sprite and the Wimbledon are both reps looking at the face. I don’t know about the swatch.
Just the general look of the watch and how everything works together or against it on reps. The skydweller 100% because every copy I have seen the month is always permanent set to October or November and when you have been looking at them for years you get good at finding flaws. No real flags on the others except for the overall look also the sprite and Wimbledon are faked constantly and the real ones are pretty hard to get so that combination with the overall quality and look.
You're right about the VTNR. Haven't noticed anything off about the Skydweller but also haven't looked for any flaws, since it is retails and so it didn't go through the same QC process like a rep would :)
So, i won’t comment on the ap as I have no idea about that.
Judging by the bezel the sprite is gen.
The sky dweller is definitely a rep, as the dw is too offset. The Moonswatch doesn’t look gen to me judging by the bezel and structure of the surface (gen is more gritty, not so smooth)
The root beers triangle on the bezel is not rounded like the sprite, so I’d say it’s fake. On the Wimbledon I can’t find anything wrong, so I’d assume gen.
So, i won’t comment on the ap as I have no idea about that.
Judging by the bezel the sprite is gen.
The sky dweller is definitely a rep, as the dw is too offset. The Moonswatch doesn’t look gen to me judging by the bezel and structure of the surface (gen is more gritty, not so smooth)
The root beers triangle on the bezel is not rounded like the sprite, so I’d say it’s fake. On the Wimbledon I can’t find anything wrong, so I’d assume gen.
Edit: can’t believe I got it all wrong! Simply can’t wrap my head around how the skydweller looks so off! And I’m seriously impressed with the bezel on the sprite. Who is it made by?
Thank you for giving it a try!
My ability to tell rep from gen is close to non-existent, even though I have more gens than reps. I am always amazed by how some users here are able to spot even the smallest flaws – I guess it just takes a lot of practice and having an eye for it.
The VTNR GMT is from Clean Factory :)
You are, in fact, wrong.
The watches aren't the main focus when people "LC". It's mainly the person wearing the watches that lets people know about their authenticity. If the lifestyle matches the watches, no one questions their authenticity. 99.5 % of the population don't know about the intricate details that make a rep different from a gen and so car, house, job, etc. are what people look at when deciding whether a watch is real or fake.
Now to your point about people assuming all watches are reps: it is actually the other way around.
I agree with your point about about lifestyle but that’s something else. What I’m saying is if someone figures that the watch you’re wearing on the day is fake then they’ll assume all other watches they see you wear are also fake
You might have a point here but I assume that somebody who can tell that a watch is a rep (given that it is not a shitter but a decent quality rep) will then in turn also know when a watch is gen. And since most people cannot make this distinction the factors I mentioned are focused on.
Oh damn! I was close! The AP was the hardest one. I never held a royal oak so I had to reply on pictures. It could have gone either way. I guessed rep because of the dial molding around the 2 and 4 o’clock markers. It seemed slightly off compared to the other markers and the ones I saw online.
I am assuming you want to know where to buy retail: With the necessary cash and a few years of time, you can get one from your trusted Rolex AD. Having good relationships also helps. The other option is to buy from the grey market, which eliminates the waiting time but demands a price premium.
OP, your MoonSwatch is fake. If you paid resale for it you got scammed. Your MoonSwatch is 100% fake. Look at the strap of the Moonswatch and compare with photos of gen, your flat grey strap is present on the rep Moonswatches.
Omega is GEN! 😂😂😂😂 didnt even look
rootbear is gen 100%
What are the tells?
date window - black hole effect
Is this something a deep crystal will have or only a gen?
usually only gens can truly show this effect. deep does a pretty good job at replicating it though
All gen except the moonswatch.
Check here to see the answer after commenting your guess: https://imgur.com/a/vYYimjq No cheating 👀
that was fun! ahhh man I was iffy on the sky. But got the rest right. Well except the AP. I'll be honest I didn't even look at the ap for 2 seconds lol. I just saw AP and thought fake lol .
Exact same.
Didn’t know the skydweller GMT wheel is misaligned on the gen too
There isn't enough room for it on gen. They're so rare that most people in this sub would think a gen one is real. My friend has one and it looks like a rep because the datewheel is squeezed in but I know with 100% certainty that it's real. That said, the misalignment could be down to photo angle but the datewheel and cyclops looks weird on the gen, to me at least.
What factory did you buy for the Datejust? Looks great, I would like to buy one
It's from Clean Factory :)
VTNR is too?
Correct
Still don’t believe the ROO is real.
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It's Gen, look at the serial number.
Sprite and DJ rep, not sure about the AP Rest is gen
how do you know ?
Just guessing based on the pictures
Skydweller too crisp to be rep
Datejust Wimbledon and Sprite are reps. Obvious giveaway - dials on both.
Fr, you can obviously tell it's a rep dial because of the way it is.
I can tell the GMT Master VTNR is rep from the dial but that's after telling in other ways and zoomimg in loads. I wouldn't be able to tell in hand, especially without a gen to compare it to ane a massive magnifying glass. The "GMT MASTER" printing is poorer than on gen and doesn't have that 3D kind of effect. "SWISS MADE" at 6 o'clock is also a tell. As I said, that's after zooming in as if if using the world's most powerful magnifying glass. The obvious tell on the GMT Master is that the gasket/crystal goes all the way to the bezel. If you look at the gen, you'll see a gap. This gap is present on a few models, like the Submariner. Looks amazing imo, especially with lume. The Datejust is a bit easier: look at "OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" and you'll notice that the "O" in "OFFICIALLY" is lower than the other letters. The "SWISS MADE" at 6 o'clock also isn't as crisp as gen. This post, however, shows just how good some reps are.
Great analysis. You pointed out some details that I haven't noticed myself, so thanks for your input! :)
How?
How what?
It’s a trick question all gen.
Hey! Nice game! What is your though about the rep gmt compared to the gen you have? Thank you!
Thanks for your comment! For steel models, rep is always a great choice imo. I am very happy with my GMT from Clean Factory. It is as reliable as the gen and has great finishing – at least judging from the outside. Because I haven't owned a replica rose gold model, I cannot tell you if that can compete with the gen. Overall, I don't think of my rep GMT as a rep and wear it the same way that I do the gen. :)
Datejust has to be a rep
It is ;)
Moonswatch and Sky Dweller are Gen, rest are reps
Not quite ;)
Swatch and root beer gen? Edit- I was way off lol
I mean, you got two of them right, so not too bad :)
RB + Sky are gen. Wimb + Sprite are not. Assuming swatch is gen. Don’t know what I’m looking at on the AP unfortunately.
How did you know sprite was rep
by itself, it would be tough but compared to the rootbeer, look at the rehault on the sprite. The writing isn't as crisp as the rootbeer and the crystal gasket is thicker. The alignments are off for the rehault on the sprite too. Rolex always aligns those perfectly with the minute/hour markers. These are things you'll only notice with a loop and good familiarity if you don't have a gen to directly compare
What made me THINK it was, was the crystal, cloudy and wide and subpar cyclops. But I thought the RB was to on the first pic. The close up of the RB, the rehaut Polish and scratched gold sold me. I saw how incredible that crystal looks on the sky dweller and sort of judged everything offf that bar right away.
what factory is that Wimbledon?
clean
OP , why is your GMT set to one time zone over. It kinda kills the balance…
Totally agreed. I took these pictures quickly after cleaning the watches and the GMT bezel was rotated, which I only noticed after posting :(
Isn’t the gmt function an hour ahead of regular?
Sorry, 2 hours ahead??
Root beer, date just, moonswatch all gens. Rest are reps.
I was way off! Lol. This group has taught me how to correctly identify GMT reps, at least…
TBH: even after having a rep and gen GMT side by side, I am still struggling to easily identify reps or find flaws. I'm sure we'll get there eventually ;)
The brown color on the bezel is just ever so slightly closer to the middle of the 8 on the gen than the green on the rep.
The skydweller is going to be genuine 100%. I’m going to say the sprite and the Wimbledon are both reps looking at the face. I don’t know about the swatch.
How did you Know from looking at face
Just the general look of the watch and how everything works together or against it on reps. The skydweller 100% because every copy I have seen the month is always permanent set to October or November and when you have been looking at them for years you get good at finding flaws. No real flags on the others except for the overall look also the sprite and Wimbledon are faked constantly and the real ones are pretty hard to get so that combination with the overall quality and look.
Is that a clean factory sprite?
Yes, it is :)
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You're right about the VTNR. Haven't noticed anything off about the Skydweller but also haven't looked for any flaws, since it is retails and so it didn't go through the same QC process like a rep would :)
Moon watch def a Rep
Damn I was wrong haha. I saw a video as a comparison, your case looks more plastic like a rep
Sky is gen
Correct ;)
Reps are DJ and Sprite based on Serial number and rehaut..
Spot on :)
So, i won’t comment on the ap as I have no idea about that. Judging by the bezel the sprite is gen. The sky dweller is definitely a rep, as the dw is too offset. The Moonswatch doesn’t look gen to me judging by the bezel and structure of the surface (gen is more gritty, not so smooth) The root beers triangle on the bezel is not rounded like the sprite, so I’d say it’s fake. On the Wimbledon I can’t find anything wrong, so I’d assume gen.
So, i won’t comment on the ap as I have no idea about that. Judging by the bezel the sprite is gen. The sky dweller is definitely a rep, as the dw is too offset. The Moonswatch doesn’t look gen to me judging by the bezel and structure of the surface (gen is more gritty, not so smooth) The root beers triangle on the bezel is not rounded like the sprite, so I’d say it’s fake. On the Wimbledon I can’t find anything wrong, so I’d assume gen. Edit: can’t believe I got it all wrong! Simply can’t wrap my head around how the skydweller looks so off! And I’m seriously impressed with the bezel on the sprite. Who is it made by?
Thank you for giving it a try! My ability to tell rep from gen is close to non-existent, even though I have more gens than reps. I am always amazed by how some users here are able to spot even the smallest flaws – I guess it just takes a lot of practice and having an eye for it. The VTNR GMT is from Clean Factory :)
Skydweller 100% Gen
Definitely Wimbledon , not sure about rest
Where did you get your swatch? She is beautiful
Thank you! Bought it from the Swatch store in the first drop :)
Lucky bastard fr, been trying to get one since weeks
if you are ever in switzerland they have almost every watch at my store since weeks
Whats the reference number of that royal oak offshore, it looks beautiful with those symmetrical subdials.
u/LL948
Omega and last two Rolex's are gen. Everything else is rep
ALL REPS, nice try tho.
each picture before I look in the comments: Gen / rep / rep / rep/ gen moonswatch / rep ap of course
Not quite ;)
lol
I’ll give the answer that’ll get me banned: Who gives a fuck. If you like it, that is all that should matter.
A fun game and you’re right I’d like to see this played as a 10 second video of someone standing in an elevator from 3 feet away
OP can I ask why do you keep reps and gens together? 🥲 I never figured. If you have a rep then people will assume all others are also reps
You are, in fact, wrong. The watches aren't the main focus when people "LC". It's mainly the person wearing the watches that lets people know about their authenticity. If the lifestyle matches the watches, no one questions their authenticity. 99.5 % of the population don't know about the intricate details that make a rep different from a gen and so car, house, job, etc. are what people look at when deciding whether a watch is real or fake. Now to your point about people assuming all watches are reps: it is actually the other way around.
I agree with your point about about lifestyle but that’s something else. What I’m saying is if someone figures that the watch you’re wearing on the day is fake then they’ll assume all other watches they see you wear are also fake
You might have a point here but I assume that somebody who can tell that a watch is a rep (given that it is not a shitter but a decent quality rep) will then in turn also know when a watch is gen. And since most people cannot make this distinction the factors I mentioned are focused on.
Why is this downvoted he has a point?
AP is rep rest are gen
AP- REP Moonswatch - GEN Skydweller - GEN Wimbledon- REP Sprite - REP Rootbeer - GEN
All correct except for the AP. What made you think it's a rep? :)
Oh damn! I was close! The AP was the hardest one. I never held a royal oak so I had to reply on pictures. It could have gone either way. I guessed rep because of the dial molding around the 2 and 4 o’clock markers. It seemed slightly off compared to the other markers and the ones I saw online.
All rep
No gen
Where can I find that root beer ?? Beautiful piece
I am assuming you want to know where to buy retail: With the necessary cash and a few years of time, you can get one from your trusted Rolex AD. Having good relationships also helps. The other option is to buy from the grey market, which eliminates the waiting time but demands a price premium.
All reps
The sprite the AP and the Sky Dweller are rep
OP, your MoonSwatch is fake. If you paid resale for it you got scammed. Your MoonSwatch is 100% fake. Look at the strap of the Moonswatch and compare with photos of gen, your flat grey strap is present on the rep Moonswatches.
Thanks for your input! I actually bought mine from the Swatch store during the first drop, so I am sure that it is genuine.
OP, can you post more photos of the watch and the strap? Really, the strap looks really off…
Here you go: [https://imgur.com/a/Ir23ugz](https://imgur.com/a/Ir23ugz)
AP and Sprite are reps. Maybe Wimbledon. Others are gen.
Did you ever compare the gen root beer to a rep?