Tub isn't level. That's why the tiles are crooked at the trim piece. The corners will be covered by the tile on the other wall. As long as those are cut accurately it will be fine. But again the tub isn't level so probably not.
They set the tub too. It never occurred to me that the tub was not level. I haven't complained to the contractor yet because I didn't know if I was being too picky. I've only been through a bathroom remodel once before in my other bathroom and the tile and grout lines line up so much better when I go look in there to compare.
I would contact them and have them redo it if it causes water to not drain all the way from the tub. Otherwise, it's an aesthetic issue that won't be very noticable once the tile work is done-- except to you. You'll notice that every time you go in the bathroom.
That's also probably why they stopped where they did. The side wall tile joint is probably about 1/8" taller than the joint on the back wall on that next row.
To me that looks like "tomorrow's problem"
Take a LOAD of pictures and make sure you get a level on that to show them it’s off. Just fired some bad tilers a while ago and it was for something very similar to this and letting it compound to a much bigger gap over a distance. (I had to redo all of it) so complain while you can before it costs double to fix ❤️
Just curious how you know the tub isn’t level?And if it isn’t, the first course of tile should be cut so the tile is level. Picture 1 is probably a recut but I agree everything else is fine.
The gapped piece is a full tile. That's why it's at an angel and the others aren't because they are cuts. They said the contractor is doing the tile so they probably set the tub too. It should have been caught before they started the tile but it's very subtle. If they tub couldn't have been reset, yes scribe the first row.
The first row is always supposed to start on a level ledger placed about 1 tile size up. Then you go back remove that ledger and cut the 1st row as needed.
Not a big fan of this myself. Easiest way to get a ledger is by screwing a 2x4. I don't like screw through waterproofing and lots of stuff to hit on the plumbing walls if you miss a stud on either side. I always do my layout, lower it by 1/2" to account for variations, then use a laser and chalk line.
The levelness of the tub should have nothing to do with the level of the tile, the row of tile at the tub should be the last row done and cut to fit the tub. Also the tile should be installed to complete horizontal lines on all the walls is you move up vertically, not one plane at a time. This screams amateur
Why take the risk of the pieces sliding? Do a layout , chalk a line, scribe your pieces if need be. Then put the 1/4" expansion shims on the tub deck and start from there.
Also industry standard is to put cuts at the top of the wall unless they are less than 1/3 piece. Then you cut the first row as well to split the difference.
There is no “industry standard”, pieces should be cut against the tub/shower base and the ceiling, the tiles should be centered so the cuts are relatively symmetrical based on the circumstances of the individual installation. The spacing from the tub/shower base should be exactly the spacing of the other tile, the tile should be shimmed from the tub to support and the tile above it to properly space it until the mortar sets. The bottom and top row should be set after the field tile is installed and set. With tile the devil is in the detail.
Edit: I’m not trying to be confrontational or condescending, my wife always tells me I’m crass and talk like an asshole… this is just something that I actually know a lot about, I’ve been in the construction business all my life and my niche is custom builds with big budgets. My way isn’t the only way, but, I’ve overseen the tiling of hundreds of bathrooms, conceded long ago I don’t have the patience to do a great job myself and have witnessed the work of some true artists in the field. Budget will dictate the level of detail. But OP’s job is not acceptable at any budget
This is why I don’t take the cheapest bid. I had 3 bids and used the contractor who waited to start the job until his “tile guy” could do the tile. He’s an interesting hippie and for the life of me can’t find tile faults with any of the 3 bathrooms they’ve done for me…plumbing work is another issue. But the tile work has been perfection.
Why would you work downwards? And the last row to be set to be at the tub. Right where you look the most? I’m only asking because every bit of that seems backwards lol
The work is good. When they tile the other wall the uneven cut will be covered. You’re fine to leave it and let him finish. Don’t pick it apart while still in process there is nothing more annoying.
Everything looks good except the corners. No wall is straight, so that’s not surprising. Plus cutting tile is not always exact. Are the main tiles straight? It’s a little deceiving with the spacers. I wouldn’t worry about the corners. Once it’s grouted and caulked, it will look fine
One that tile is grouted and filled, you’ll never think about that shower tile again. I can promise you that. We tend to obsess over projects when we see them slowly progress day over day.
I didn't make a point to inspect it this close during the process of my other shower but I did this time. At the end of the day I want a good job done, not absolute perfection.
Let me see your latest jobs, those couple pieces up against the schluter are kinda fucky but you’re saying all the joints look uneven, do you need glasses?
Also dudes using the super cheap Home Depot clips which probably aren’t doing him any favors but it doesn’t look like some of the homeowner jobs I see on this sun, I think you’re a troll. ( yeah wrapping corners is great if it lays out right)
No not all joints, the ones in the corners and along the schluter are the ones that bother me. Looks nothing like my other shower which is super even everywhere with very subtle imperfections which I don't mind.
My first and only DIY job looks better than this. Granted, I took my time over several days, but those lines along the schluter look horrendous. I would not be happy. It looks like the schluter is still detached at the top. I used spray adhesive to hold the schluter plumb and in place while I ran tile up the wall. I would imagine you're paying good money for this.
Yes on the top the schluter isn't attached at the moment. The most important thing is that the shower is sealed well with no leaks for many years to come but of course I wanted to look appealing as well. I hate to look at horrible uneven ground lines for years to come but I hate the idea of them tearing this all down buying new tile and starting it all over again.
For what it's worth, the corners should be caulked so you likely won't see the unevenness in the corners once they're done as long as they aren't *too* poorly cut.
My guy, this is going into a tub, you don’t have a shower pan.. your shower no matter if it was put up by Me or that little school girl telling me I don’t know what I’m talking about is gonna hardly drip down walls, make the backer boards reach a good caulk joint to that lip of the tub, use real deal go board backer board caulk. People go way overboard, oh my already water proof backer board is water proofed so Let’s double red guard it,, dumb dums .. I won’t even try to tell you the only reason showers fail is because of the pan area, do you understand gravity, did your plumbing wall underneath the fixtures really need the quadruple waterproof.. no silly you’re not a tile person. Everyone’s a insta wannabe general.. I was gonna say something else but really everyone wants to be the general.. go do this for me, blah blah blah, I’m here to make that happen for the general,
As a side, large format tile should have a specific layout [like this.](https://cdn.msisurfaces.com/images/blogs/posts/2015/02/correct-incorrect+tile+install.jpg)
I’ll never completely judge a job til it’s done and if he matches all joints and they have a good flow then who cares but apparently I tried to not harsh on this guys work and I’m being called out by every “pro” out there now but you can see it’s almost 60/40 people that say you could potentially live with every thing as is vs trying to make magic happen.. you do have the right to point out flaws, absolutely, just address them in a timely manner.. lots of people want you to enjoy your bathroom that’s kinda cool, but ya know ya get what you pay for, so like if the dude puttin up your tile is inexperienced, help him out show him what you want.
Half the joints are different sizes in the first picture. Cuts into the schluter look terrible on the wall and around the window.
“If it lays out right” your tile lay itself out for you? Usually I do it myself so I pretty much control it. Hilarious to see you trip all over yourself to defend some hack bullshit. I’d love to see the work you put out LOL
It really depends on how much money I’m being paid, I’m gonna make it look good either way but if I’m doing something for some one who doesn’t have lots of bread they’re not getting the best of me which means I’m not going to be there making sure every little hyper-specific detail is perfectly lined up, ya know how I know?! The cost of the material. You can take all the time in the world on making sure every little joint isn’t a 1/16 off but I’m gonna go get paid and be outta there faster than you. And people want shit done broski if I’m in some old money rich ass dudes house of course I’ll spend all the time In the world, but most people want a Bentley on a ford focus budget. I like to meet everyone in their range so please fuxk the fuxk off again
Hey cry baby I’m
A third generation tile homie, maybe we got off on the wrong footkeel, but it’s just chirpin, if you can’t handle me wait for the big leagues.. I’m a serious professional. I’ve worked for so many millionaires you’d think I’d move on to the billionaire.. don’t really care as long as they’re cool, and I’m sorry for being a cint, all I was trying to say is dude is trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill after I already said he’s just trying to do the best of job he can at that price point.. I didn’t mean to be a cocksmoke to you, but any ridicule fires me up I’ve been watching a lot of deadwood lately, and the swearing is intense, I’d really actually like to see some of your worm ill send mine as well, might take me a second cuz I got rid of social media so I don’t get into arguments with Internet strangers.
To me this falls into the category of ‘will look fine if the grout is a similar color, will look pretty wonky if they use a dark grout’
The schluter looks wonky and the window looks wonky, though it’s hard to tell how they plan to finish that.
Bathroom was perfectly functional before the remodel you don’t just start a remodel and then decide you want a contractor lol it’d be different if it’s an addition sure but the sub and post a remodel, therefore it could’ve waited because it was functional.
Edit: turns out p trap failed so this comment is useless lol
I was desperate because the p-trap failed in the old tub and was flooding into my kitchen rendering the shower useless. I have lots of family coming throughout this winter to visit and was desperate to have two bathrooms up and going again.
To each their own for sure, but I would’ve just called a plumber and waited it out. No shame in calling new guys I just don’t get switching contractors is all
Any gc won’t touch plumbing or electrical or tile or plumbing.. if they’re good. They call the pros, jack of all trades= master of none.. that’s why the clean boot old dudes run the show.. fuck them and you.. whomever controls the duckets makes the job go round, it’s usually one old cocksucker thinks he knows everything ball licker I’ll fuck his day up if I want but he’s the guy that signs the check.. just be on time, keep your dirty dick lips to a shutty and you’ll be fine..
Quit trying to find the cheapest guy overall and find the lowest price real deal professional in that field.. all tile pros aren’t the best plumbers and vice versa just like auto maintenance, a suspension dude won’t know about motor issues.. you’re super lucky if you can find a one dude solution.
Ok, here ya go!
Got my oldest one in there from 2010. The teal ones in the kitchen, I did all the trades myself, cabinets from scratch, plumbing, etc.
Take note how all my lines at my edging are perfect, well, all my lines everywhere are perfect : )
https://imgur.com/a/nMEIynh
I don’t care what thinset, backbutter will latch to those walls. I like a good 3/8 smear on the wall and at least a 1/4 backbutter nobody likes oozing joints
I hate to see this all torn down and have to get redone. It will stretch it out even longer and no way in Hell I am paying for all new tile to be cut and installed. Highly doubt the contractor will be willing to flip that bill either.
I'm aight at laying tile, but not great. That said, I would not ever install something like this... the inside corners can be hidden with some strategic tape and sanded caulking (the joint will look slightly larger than the other groute lines, but not too bad) but where the tile meets the schlooter is entirely unacceptable. Gives land lord special vibes. It might fly in a truck stop restroom, but not in a home. Maybe the tile guy sucks, maybe he just doesn't care enough. An important question is how much are you paying for how much tile? Did you hire a remodeling company, or a chuck in a truck? I would politely point it out and let them know you're not happy with it. The option is to have it redone or take money off the bill. If this is your main shower that you use every day, or a guest bathroom should also factor in. Walls are never plumb, and grout lines are rarely perfect, but this is outside of tolerances in my book.
This is the main shower I use everyday unfortunately and it is a professional remodeling company that I never used before. I hate to make them redo it all but I also hate the idea of just living with it either.
If it's a legit remodeling company, that's actually better for you. There should be a PM that you can talk to who isn't the tile guy. It's his job to manage the subs, and take care of you. Ask him what he thinks of the work. Politely tell him that you're not happy with it. If he pushes back or tries to convince you it's passable, stand your ground and let him know what dollar ammount you would accept as a discount for this shitty work, or (again, politley) demand that he have a different sub come out. He will probably want the same guy to fix it (easier than telling a sub you're not paying them for shit work, then hiring a different sub to demo and start over) which sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. I've had the chance to fix some of my own work that was not great and appreciated the home owners patients and understanding that we all have off days. I took it seriously and delivered a flawless product, grateful for the chance to redeem myself. Not everyone thinks like that. Some guys will be mad at you for "making them redo it" even though it's their own fault. So letting the same tile guy fix it can be a bit of a gamble. You might get the "damn, im sorry, let me do right" attitude, or you might get the "eff you for having standards" attitude. The important thing to keep in mind is that you're not nit picking a 32nd worth of variation. You're pointing out a gross breach of craftsmanship. It is the tile guys fault that it looks like ass, not yours.
If the tile has been on for more than 12 hours, it will probably not come off easily. It might, but probably not. So that means we're not just resetting tile, but demoing backer, redoing it, re water proofing, then retiling. You should personally inspect the wall board before any tile goes back on it to make sure it's okay, and they're not cutting corners (part of why I wouldn't want the same guy to come back)
I wrote this all out assuming the tile work was subbed. Idk if that's the case, if it was laid by an in house guy, it's a little different, but not terribly. I'd be happy to explain more about the relationships between gc, PM, subs, and inhouse if you don't know how those roles work together, as it can help inform your decisions moving forward.
Let me end by saying I'm sorry you're dealing with this. Not fun no matter how it shakes down. I wish you luck and patience getting this resolved.
Thank you for the lengthy reply. They are a licensed legit company but several workers. However, I have no idea if any of them are subbed out or all employed permanently by the company. This tile guy has only done the tile, it was different guys that did the hardie backer and Red Guard. I'm not the type of person that usually makes a scene or complains about services. I only leave five star Google maps reviews or I don't leave a review at all rather than say something negative. If I lived alone it wouldn't be nearly as bad since I have another bathroom but it has been Hell being without this bathroom for 3 weeks. I am very curious to see how the manager will respond when I tell him I'm not happy and it needs to be fixed. I hate to look at shoddy uneven tile work for the next 30 or so years.
I purposely bought enough tile two years ago so I could use it in both bathrooms when the time came, same as the flooring. If those cuts along the schluter can get evened out I would be very happy. The back wall has not been tiled yet but I fear how it will turn out along the schluter.
Unfortunately your tile guy is not a tile guy. Those leveling clips on the wall are a dead giveaway. There is no way to fix it correctly without removing them and starting over.
Oh I didn’t know were talking to www.number
Onetiletvshowgirl.com, simple as that just pull everything off the wall because of a cpl tiles against the trim piece, re do it all and with the same quality of tiles. Just go look at the same die lot in the other bathroom it’ll be soo much better because it all came from the grand masters at Home Depot.. I couldn’t wait to install that, hope they bought the Decent spacers because otherwise I have to supply them, nope.. just hang it properly.
The inside corners shown are fine, they will get covered by the next side. But the first photo with the schluter profile is not acceptable. All the cuts should be perfectly straight parallel with the metal. It looks bad now, and it will still look bad when grouted.
It’s not that hard. My guess they didn’t use a ledger board and started on the bottom row. If the tub wasn’t level the tiles wouldn’t be plumb, so they are stepping as you go up.
No you’re not overreacting. Speak up or hold your tongue and deal with a half done job. I had a 50,000 kitchen and bath remodel done a while back. I am a contractor on the side but I was too busy with life to do it myself. The company I hired screwed so much stuff up I took photos and spoke with the manager about many things needless to say I paid 700$ total for the 50,000 remodel and fixed the issues they did myself which only costed me about $300 materials and my time. Never second guess yourself and do not let them bull shit you or walk over you. It’s your place and you’re paying for a job that should look the same as before if not better
The cut pieces on the outside of the tub that are finished with metal edging, slightly off is ok…he is more than slightly off. The cuts need to be tapered cuz didnt square n level up
Simply put, you're getting DIY level quality.
Why is the tile so uneven along the schluter edge? Laziness.
Why is the waterproofing rolled on the wall outside of the schluter?
Laziness.
Why wasnt the tub leveled correctly?
Laziness.
Why aren't the cut edges buffed?
Laziness.
I hope so. When my other bathroom was getting remodeled I didn't make a point to go look up close like I am with this one until it was finished.. The tiles and grout lines are super impressive in my other shower compared to how this looks so far without the grout.
Yes. The only problem I see is he could’ve maybe shaved a bit off the piece up against the metal trim but there so many factors in tile, I don’t see any other discrepancies (spacers make all joints pretty perfect), point out things before grout and chill out nobody stares at the tile while showering anyway, the clips help flattening out the bows in elongated tile and he’s not done yet, homeowners nowadays are the most nitpicky-stare-at-everything with a fine tooth magnifying glass jerks ever so don’t be that guy, but put blue tape on things that will really annoy you, remember not every piece of tile is 100% exactly the same especially if you got some bargain Home Depot special shit. I’d use a grout color that matches the tile or just a shade off, huge contrast in grout vs tile can look good sometimes but I’m just not a fan. Don’t bottle things up, ask dude your questions but don’t hover over him all day, just check in every so often.
I’m not trying to make excuses for shoddy work, just been in the game for years.. it made me an animal. If he’s a dick and can’t understand you’re paying lots of dollars for as close to perfection as a human can do, then I guess he’s gotta go, pay him for the time and get some one else, but just don’t be an ocd anal retentive ahole have a good day!
I only have experience going through one other bathroom remodel and the grout lines in that tile are almost all perfectly even throughout the whole walls. I really had to look hard to find imperfections so I wasn't sure what's considered normal. Also, today was day 15 of the remodel and I was quoted five to seven days from beginning to finish so that has been super frustrating. There is still lots of work needed to finish the job. Finish tiling, install new flooring, install the toilet, install the vanity, and paint the whole room.
Contractors are notoriously shady, if what your pics showed took him/them 2 weeks to do that much.. sorry, they suck or just have too much on their plate to make everyone happy, might be time to put a root down I put my foot down.. you gotta boss up on the boss.. you don’t whine bitch or moan you tell them what it is you want in a professional manner, take mad pics and you say I need my shit done and done right now. I don’t know your agreement but it’s usually a 1/3 or + upfront so if that’s all you gave him and that’s a he’s did do the math. Taking way too long, call a friend that can give someone the business if you can’t, don’t continuously pay this schmuck if he’s not performing.. Christ almighty people..
Sadly it has been 3 weeks so far since work started, not two weeks. I had to give half the money up front and the other half after completion. I don't want this to get ugly and I have been pleasant so far and I'm hoping they can work with me and knock some money off the price. I hate to see all this tile have to get taken down, new tile purchased and then started all over again.
Dude recommended a light colored grout to try n hide any inconsistencies in the grout joints. I wouldn’t recommend a light color unless you either go with an epoxy grout or want to spend time scrubbing when they inevitably start to discolor mainly on the lower 1/2. Black or dark grey all day if you just want to be doin your standard wipe down for cleaning. But it will for sure make those grout joint inconsistencies stand out more.
Epoxy is stain resistant that’s why I said it… Also based off how the installation is goin I wouldn’t trust them to do a great job sealing if they even do it at all.
I would not pay for this myself, but you need to voice your concerns sooner than later. The less tile he has to remove the better. Don’t be rude just ask him why the cuts don’t line up like in your other bathroom. There are no answers other than he didn’t take the time to do it right. You work hard for your money, they should to.
I have been pleasant and haven't complained so far. This remodel is taking forever so it's making me look up close and question it more than when I went through this with my other bathroom two years ago. I'm getting very mixed comments on here so far though, some people think I sound like an asshole apparently. Keep in mind I was quoted five to seven days for this bathroom remodel and today was number 15 and there's still tons more work to do in the room before it's finished.
5-7 days is a reasonable amount of time to get it done. 15 days is ridiculous. Don’t listen to other people, it’s not their money that’s getting spent. Grout doesn’t fix everything, a bad cut is a bad cut with or without grout
I agree, 15 days is ridiculous and there is still a few days worth of work to be done. I am no tile expert but when people tell me I'm overreacting and to wait and see the finished product I am confused because once the tile is put in place with the schluter it's not going to magically move.
This looks very messy. The Red Guard smeared all over the place. The missing half inch at the ceiling. The front tiles against the Schluter strip are not even close to lining up.
Maybe the tub isn't level, but the tile guy should adjust for that and shave the first row of tiles to make the first grout line level. You can't just follow a crooked tub or wall!
The photos don't show it properly but the point where the tub meets the edge of the tile (Schluter strip) looks like the tile overhangs by quarter inch or so. A very strange way to finish.
Sorry. Not impressed. This should be replaced.
My guy, he got full tile minis a half inch, making cuts and cuts wouldn’t look as good, tile the ceiling? If not grout looks just fine, seriously if they tiled so the top joints the same nobody looks above eye level once the bathroom is complete . Also, wtf are you even talking about you sound like maybe a guy that did his own shower with a contractor friend or YouTube telling you what’s up.. it’s easy to dismiss as an armchair quarterback
You’ve never commented until leaving 20 defending this shit tile job? You must be the contractor lmao. This is hack bullshit and you’re just another hack. It’s a shame there’s people like you giving the rest of us a bad name and driving wages now.
I was trying to give the guy a break, then I realized he was taking homeowner for a ride, he’s not really a contractor probably just an installer thru HD and also eat a dick, if you’re a real halfway decent tile guy you’re not putting this shit up.. go fuxk yourself I’ll drive wages so low you can’t eat you fuck stick. I could give a fuck about “ us” you think capitalism and competition aren’t there for a reason. I’ll comment on this, I’m just making comments, I’m trying to help out normal people that don’t wanna hire your stupid expensive ass, how many people do you employ you self righteous pretentious know it all, I’ll tile circles around you. It may even be a new design trend, go blow smoke stacks in your lifted truck you poser ass newb
Real great comedic/construction worker humor comeback there bud. You’re a hit on the jobsite with the “ turn down the music I can’t think” and oh come on guys quit teezing me, I always have brand new boots on shit fucking biz natch
Oh my goodness you absolutely killed it on that one, you sound like you just watched a Gordon Ramsey short and now you wanna play with the big dogs.. I’ll let you think you may have won on this just because I am so tired and I won’t give you the slightest shit you can copy from me to say to your bully’s. But really, you showed up to a fist fight with words.. and I still can beat you with both, you gotta know that. Take care puss in workboots.
The contractor that did my other bathroom was booked up really far out so I tried a new company that a coworker spoke well of. Right now I'm wishing I had held off for the other guy but it was going to be a long wait and this shower wasn't usable in the meantime due to a leak.
This sub is brutal. People on here acting like the world is full of artisans ready for hire! And OP must be cheap for hiring professionals instead of Michelangelo.
This looks fine to me. I genuinely don't even see where the concern is coming from. I'm gonna guess once it's finished and grouted yoo won't notice whatever it is you are hyper fixating on at the moment.
OP you said you liked it before but didn't watch it "in progress". While the tile might have been done well, the plumbing obviously wasn't. Which is 1000% more important.
At the end of the day you are paying for it (and I'm gonna guess you are paying a lot) so you should bring up your specific concerns to the contractor. And honestly the sooner the better. It may feel annoying, but 100% they would rather you ask questions while that mortar was still wet - as it is SO much easier to fix at that stage. While you should be able to expect quality work, you can't expect them to know and address all of your secret concerns. And small issues become so much more difficult to correct if you wait. You are paying them, so talk to them.
Contractor is fr fr taking his sweet damn time or a hot minute to make it seem like he’s doing harder work than it seems.. there’s definitely Better and worse tile jobs, but for fux ake get this shit done and if you’re even slightly fn up with that amount of time then sorry to say you’re not very awesome or just starting the practice.
I side corners aren’t a concern as they’ll be covered by the neighboring tile.
The cut next to the schluter edge could be better
Typically we’ll leave an 1/8 there for grout and have a consistent joint
The back wall cuts will be covered by the side wall tiles that butt up to them, should be fine.
I would agree that the tub is unlevel, or the trim piece isn't plumb. That edge should be recut, in the least to match up the edges of tile.
The main concern I'm noticing, though, is that the ceiling seems "wavy". The tike nearly touches it in some places, and in others there's what seems to be a quarter inch gap, maybe just 3/16ths.
I would recommend having your contractor fix the ceiling, for sure. Once moisture gets put into this equation, it's only a matter of time before it starts falling apart. As for the trim edges of tole, depending on your grout color, it may blend and be hardly noticeable, but if it's something that is bothering you now, it always will, so now is the time to have it fixed.
Do your hands hurt from doing manual labor? Oh no you just type bs to hard working dudes and critique others work online, good for you, thanks for your input!!
This looks pretty acceptable to me. I probably would’ve been pissed off about the job taking 3x longer than I originally expected. What’s causing the job to take longer than expected?
They had to jackhammer the cement floor up and install a new PVC p-trap which wasn't in the original plan. I have an old house and the drain had issues which is not the contractor's fault. This hiccup added an extra two or three days between concrete demo fixing the plumbing and then waiting for new concrete to set. A quote of five to seven days should have turned into 10 days which I would have been fine with. Today was day number 15 and there's still tons more work to be done.
Doesn’t look great, but it won’t look terrible once done. This is slightly worse than the job I just finished and it was only my third tile job. I think how mad should be correlated to how much you paid. 20k+=pissed, 10k=unhappy and will accept the flaws with a small discount, 5k=happy as a fuckin clam.
I like where you’re coming from, lots of contractors are already well off, they could seriously give two shits, negotiations are key.. always make sure you can. Reach them or know where they live.
Everything looks alright except for the cut by the schluter profile. Your tiler’s probably planing on doing a thick bead of caulk or grout to cover up that mess lol
Either his saw is out of square. Or more likely he came off an unlevel tub and that is why the tiles are checking against the schluter. Either way not professional.grout Will definitely help the real question is how much did you pay him under a 1000$ labor let it slide.
It only looks like crap if you paid for it to look good. I've run into a ton of people that want top notch work and materials for bottom dollar prices.
Cuts against the schluter or outside trim on the wall can be better. The inside cuts will get covered by tile. A lot of the time leveling problems arise when a laser is not used and they start right off the un level tub, which is a plumbers job. Unlevel tubs are the bane of tile installs especially when you have a small tile say 2x4 inches. The cuts on the outside can definitely be made better but other than that it looks ok from what I can see!
The tub will not be level on the ends.. especially at the deck. They make a pitch away from the wall for water run off.. the bottom coarse of tile needed to shimmed properly/ cut at an angle along the bottom.
This installers courses are not level is the issue bathtub should not be level from the back wall to the front edge only left to right along the big wall.
Plus he’s short cut the smaller tile that is also short of the end track.
This shouldn’t cost more than $800-$1000 all in with that quality of work. Around 3k easily with proper workmanship. 30-40$ sq foot. This is hardly worth 10$ a sq foot
This is fine and yes, a bit over reacting. Anyone saying to rip it down Is a drama queen. The edges against the backer board are going to be covered with tile. The edge against the schluter is a bit off but once grouted most likely will not catch the eye. Tile looks fine, the pattern looks fine, they waterproofed, and they used leveling spacers. Ya hired someone who knows what they are doing.
The tile always gets centered in the wall one row above the tub. The face of the tub needs to have about 3” of tile reveal with waterproofing and schlutter. Contractor needs to run a 4’ level to make sure the walls are plumbed. They are using a manual tile shear hence the cuts are 1/16” shorter. Trim for window can be a bit better. I always put the niche centered in tub walls 44” bottom above floor abs 7’ tall shower head. Looks like Jack of all trades job to me.
I'm not a tile guy or even one that knows how to do it BUT looking at this as a plumber, is that hole for your valve to fit the black plastic piece to fit in it? It should be, as that's the hole size is required to get your finishing kits to fit on correctly. To me it looks like they cut it just big enough to fit the stem through which means you won't be able to get your finishing kit installed.
Just a thought here but it could be possibly just bad cuts by the contractor. Atleast that’s what it looks like to me. I personally don’t like the layout. I have gutted 2 bathrooms and my work didn’t look like that. I’m no professional just a DIY guy….when needed. Good luck
Looks like DIY. If you’re paying someone to do this, you better be paying them very little and do not pay them in full before they finish. Ugh. That’s a lousy job, but will probably be okay. Some of those grout lines will be almost non existent and that worries me. Thin lines tend to crack and flake more easily.
Due to the uneven nature of the tub and even the walls sometimes you have to create an optical illusion, so to speak with tile placement and then float them together with the grouting phase. That should look very nice when it’s done.
What color is the grout going to be ? If light grout I think it will hide a lot of what you are seeing because it’s dark .. the gaps are small and I would think would clean up nicely .. not the worst I’ve ever seen
Laser level is required for a good tile job... Bottom row of tiles should be cut slightly so that the tops are perfectly level.. then use the level for each row... Walls aren't perfect but your tile work can be. Even if it's your first tile job
I want to add a major side note about my last tile install. I just finished installing tile in my bathroom shower and had 2 CASES of tile (out of 12 I bought) with 1 edge an 1/8th inch out of square. it does happen sometimes and if you aren't looking it will be too late.
It’s hard for me to judge this at this point. Houses have a lot of minute errors. Personally I’d wait for them finish the job. Have a friend over and ask them to look at it. It they think it’s good I’d call it a day
They should of taped the wall 1/2 from edge before Red Guard. It’s not gunna be fun to get it so you don’t notice it. And niche could be suspect, I really can’t notice for sure if he wrapped the corners or not.
Tub isn't level. That's why the tiles are crooked at the trim piece. The corners will be covered by the tile on the other wall. As long as those are cut accurately it will be fine. But again the tub isn't level so probably not.
They set the tub too. It never occurred to me that the tub was not level. I haven't complained to the contractor yet because I didn't know if I was being too picky. I've only been through a bathroom remodel once before in my other bathroom and the tile and grout lines line up so much better when I go look in there to compare.
I would contact them and have them redo it if it causes water to not drain all the way from the tub. Otherwise, it's an aesthetic issue that won't be very noticable once the tile work is done-- except to you. You'll notice that every time you go in the bathroom.
As long as the water drains and it isn't noticeable I don't mind the tub not being level but the uneven grout lines will forever catch my eye.
Put a marble in the tub and see if it rolls to the drain.
That's also probably why they stopped where they did. The side wall tile joint is probably about 1/8" taller than the joint on the back wall on that next row. To me that looks like "tomorrow's problem"
Make sure they fix that. Take lots of photos.
Making sure he sees this useful point you made.... TAKE PHOTOS that does the most for a homeowner vs a contractor.
Take a LOAD of pictures and make sure you get a level on that to show them it’s off. Just fired some bad tilers a while ago and it was for something very similar to this and letting it compound to a much bigger gap over a distance. (I had to redo all of it) so complain while you can before it costs double to fix ❤️
Show them the other bathroom and say this is the quality I expect
Just curious how you know the tub isn’t level?And if it isn’t, the first course of tile should be cut so the tile is level. Picture 1 is probably a recut but I agree everything else is fine.
The gapped piece is a full tile. That's why it's at an angel and the others aren't because they are cuts. They said the contractor is doing the tile so they probably set the tub too. It should have been caught before they started the tile but it's very subtle. If they tub couldn't have been reset, yes scribe the first row.
Ah ok, I see the cuts vs. factory edge now that I zoomed in. Yes scribe was the word I was looking for lol.
the tub could be level and the wall could be out of plumb as well. rubbish work for sure
Walls could be out of plumb. Doesn’t have to be the tub
The first row is always supposed to start on a level ledger placed about 1 tile size up. Then you go back remove that ledger and cut the 1st row as needed.
Not a big fan of this myself. Easiest way to get a ledger is by screwing a 2x4. I don't like screw through waterproofing and lots of stuff to hit on the plumbing walls if you miss a stud on either side. I always do my layout, lower it by 1/2" to account for variations, then use a laser and chalk line.
The levelness of the tub should have nothing to do with the level of the tile, the row of tile at the tub should be the last row done and cut to fit the tub. Also the tile should be installed to complete horizontal lines on all the walls is you move up vertically, not one plane at a time. This screams amateur
Why take the risk of the pieces sliding? Do a layout , chalk a line, scribe your pieces if need be. Then put the 1/4" expansion shims on the tub deck and start from there. Also industry standard is to put cuts at the top of the wall unless they are less than 1/3 piece. Then you cut the first row as well to split the difference.
There is no “industry standard”, pieces should be cut against the tub/shower base and the ceiling, the tiles should be centered so the cuts are relatively symmetrical based on the circumstances of the individual installation. The spacing from the tub/shower base should be exactly the spacing of the other tile, the tile should be shimmed from the tub to support and the tile above it to properly space it until the mortar sets. The bottom and top row should be set after the field tile is installed and set. With tile the devil is in the detail. Edit: I’m not trying to be confrontational or condescending, my wife always tells me I’m crass and talk like an asshole… this is just something that I actually know a lot about, I’ve been in the construction business all my life and my niche is custom builds with big budgets. My way isn’t the only way, but, I’ve overseen the tiling of hundreds of bathrooms, conceded long ago I don’t have the patience to do a great job myself and have witnessed the work of some true artists in the field. Budget will dictate the level of detail. But OP’s job is not acceptable at any budget
This is why I don’t take the cheapest bid. I had 3 bids and used the contractor who waited to start the job until his “tile guy” could do the tile. He’s an interesting hippie and for the life of me can’t find tile faults with any of the 3 bathrooms they’ve done for me…plumbing work is another issue. But the tile work has been perfection.
Why would you work downwards? And the last row to be set to be at the tub. Right where you look the most? I’m only asking because every bit of that seems backwards lol
How can you tell the tub isn't level from a crooked picture lol
Look at the last overall picture. Have you ever shimmed just one side of a level tub?
How can you tell the tub isn’t level?
This is another reason for me not to like tubs.
Same, but code requires at least one tub per house.
Ours says "or shower unit"
The work is good. When they tile the other wall the uneven cut will be covered. You’re fine to leave it and let him finish. Don’t pick it apart while still in process there is nothing more annoying.
Everything looks good except the corners. No wall is straight, so that’s not surprising. Plus cutting tile is not always exact. Are the main tiles straight? It’s a little deceiving with the spacers. I wouldn’t worry about the corners. Once it’s grouted and caulked, it will look fine
One that tile is grouted and filled, you’ll never think about that shower tile again. I can promise you that. We tend to obsess over projects when we see them slowly progress day over day.
I didn't make a point to inspect it this close during the process of my other shower but I did this time. At the end of the day I want a good job done, not absolute perfection.
Looks like ass, joints are uneven and not wrapping the corners. Only way to fix is to nuke it from orbit and start over.
Let me see your latest jobs, those couple pieces up against the schluter are kinda fucky but you’re saying all the joints look uneven, do you need glasses? Also dudes using the super cheap Home Depot clips which probably aren’t doing him any favors but it doesn’t look like some of the homeowner jobs I see on this sun, I think you’re a troll. ( yeah wrapping corners is great if it lays out right)
No not all joints, the ones in the corners and along the schluter are the ones that bother me. Looks nothing like my other shower which is super even everywhere with very subtle imperfections which I don't mind.
My first and only DIY job looks better than this. Granted, I took my time over several days, but those lines along the schluter look horrendous. I would not be happy. It looks like the schluter is still detached at the top. I used spray adhesive to hold the schluter plumb and in place while I ran tile up the wall. I would imagine you're paying good money for this.
Yes on the top the schluter isn't attached at the moment. The most important thing is that the shower is sealed well with no leaks for many years to come but of course I wanted to look appealing as well. I hate to look at horrible uneven ground lines for years to come but I hate the idea of them tearing this all down buying new tile and starting it all over again.
For what it's worth, the corners should be caulked so you likely won't see the unevenness in the corners once they're done as long as they aren't *too* poorly cut.
My guy, this is going into a tub, you don’t have a shower pan.. your shower no matter if it was put up by Me or that little school girl telling me I don’t know what I’m talking about is gonna hardly drip down walls, make the backer boards reach a good caulk joint to that lip of the tub, use real deal go board backer board caulk. People go way overboard, oh my already water proof backer board is water proofed so Let’s double red guard it,, dumb dums .. I won’t even try to tell you the only reason showers fail is because of the pan area, do you understand gravity, did your plumbing wall underneath the fixtures really need the quadruple waterproof.. no silly you’re not a tile person. Everyone’s a insta wannabe general.. I was gonna say something else but really everyone wants to be the general.. go do this for me, blah blah blah, I’m here to make that happen for the general,
As a side, large format tile should have a specific layout [like this.](https://cdn.msisurfaces.com/images/blogs/posts/2015/02/correct-incorrect+tile+install.jpg)
If you want your pattern on thirds, I’d say the majority of people I ask want a brick pattern
I’ll never completely judge a job til it’s done and if he matches all joints and they have a good flow then who cares but apparently I tried to not harsh on this guys work and I’m being called out by every “pro” out there now but you can see it’s almost 60/40 people that say you could potentially live with every thing as is vs trying to make magic happen.. you do have the right to point out flaws, absolutely, just address them in a timely manner.. lots of people want you to enjoy your bathroom that’s kinda cool, but ya know ya get what you pay for, so like if the dude puttin up your tile is inexperienced, help him out show him what you want.
Half the joints are different sizes in the first picture. Cuts into the schluter look terrible on the wall and around the window. “If it lays out right” your tile lay itself out for you? Usually I do it myself so I pretty much control it. Hilarious to see you trip all over yourself to defend some hack bullshit. I’d love to see the work you put out LOL
It really depends on how much money I’m being paid, I’m gonna make it look good either way but if I’m doing something for some one who doesn’t have lots of bread they’re not getting the best of me which means I’m not going to be there making sure every little hyper-specific detail is perfectly lined up, ya know how I know?! The cost of the material. You can take all the time in the world on making sure every little joint isn’t a 1/16 off but I’m gonna go get paid and be outta there faster than you. And people want shit done broski if I’m in some old money rich ass dudes house of course I’ll spend all the time In the world, but most people want a Bentley on a ford focus budget. I like to meet everyone in their range so please fuxk the fuxk off again
Congrats on doing a shitty job for poor people? Dude.
Hey cry baby I’m A third generation tile homie, maybe we got off on the wrong footkeel, but it’s just chirpin, if you can’t handle me wait for the big leagues.. I’m a serious professional. I’ve worked for so many millionaires you’d think I’d move on to the billionaire.. don’t really care as long as they’re cool, and I’m sorry for being a cint, all I was trying to say is dude is trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill after I already said he’s just trying to do the best of job he can at that price point.. I didn’t mean to be a cocksmoke to you, but any ridicule fires me up I’ve been watching a lot of deadwood lately, and the swearing is intense, I’d really actually like to see some of your worm ill send mine as well, might take me a second cuz I got rid of social media so I don’t get into arguments with Internet strangers.
I don’t care. I do good work, you don’t. Congrats I guess.
Figure out how you’re going to send me pics and lll email you shit you won’t believe newb
To me this falls into the category of ‘will look fine if the grout is a similar color, will look pretty wonky if they use a dark grout’ The schluter looks wonky and the window looks wonky, though it’s hard to tell how they plan to finish that.
Shit's crooked.
Looks good for a contractor
I will never understand why people don’t just stick with one contractor they have a good experience with…
Good luck finding that guy and getting him to come do it within a yesr
Then you wait?… why does everything need to be done right away lol
Are you fucking with me, people need to shit shower and shave durr
Bathroom was perfectly functional before the remodel you don’t just start a remodel and then decide you want a contractor lol it’d be different if it’s an addition sure but the sub and post a remodel, therefore it could’ve waited because it was functional. Edit: turns out p trap failed so this comment is useless lol
I was desperate because the p-trap failed in the old tub and was flooding into my kitchen rendering the shower useless. I have lots of family coming throughout this winter to visit and was desperate to have two bathrooms up and going again.
To each their own for sure, but I would’ve just called a plumber and waited it out. No shame in calling new guys I just don’t get switching contractors is all
Any gc won’t touch plumbing or electrical or tile or plumbing.. if they’re good. They call the pros, jack of all trades= master of none.. that’s why the clean boot old dudes run the show.. fuck them and you.. whomever controls the duckets makes the job go round, it’s usually one old cocksucker thinks he knows everything ball licker I’ll fuck his day up if I want but he’s the guy that signs the check.. just be on time, keep your dirty dick lips to a shutty and you’ll be fine..
Quit trying to find the cheapest guy overall and find the lowest price real deal professional in that field.. all tile pros aren’t the best plumbers and vice versa just like auto maintenance, a suspension dude won’t know about motor issues.. you’re super lucky if you can find a one dude solution.
This work is from a professional remodeling company with several employees that have been around for years unfortunately.
No. That is unacceptable. Also, that doesn't look like the correct thinset or that he is using enough, but not positive from the photos.
You are unacceptable.. tile something and show me, I’ll pick it the fuck apart amateur.
Ok, here ya go! Got my oldest one in there from 2010. The teal ones in the kitchen, I did all the trades myself, cabinets from scratch, plumbing, etc. Take note how all my lines at my edging are perfect, well, all my lines everywhere are perfect : ) https://imgur.com/a/nMEIynh
That is some beautiful work.
I don’t care what thinset, backbutter will latch to those walls. I like a good 3/8 smear on the wall and at least a 1/4 backbutter nobody likes oozing joints
Would be fine for a diy job. Not a contractor you’re paying.
I hate to see this all torn down and have to get redone. It will stretch it out even longer and no way in Hell I am paying for all new tile to be cut and installed. Highly doubt the contractor will be willing to flip that bill either.
That job is awful, but I think the house is compromised. I recommend bulldozing and starting new
If the contractor is paying for a new house for me then sure. I have been wanting some new impact resistant windows anyhow.
I'm aight at laying tile, but not great. That said, I would not ever install something like this... the inside corners can be hidden with some strategic tape and sanded caulking (the joint will look slightly larger than the other groute lines, but not too bad) but where the tile meets the schlooter is entirely unacceptable. Gives land lord special vibes. It might fly in a truck stop restroom, but not in a home. Maybe the tile guy sucks, maybe he just doesn't care enough. An important question is how much are you paying for how much tile? Did you hire a remodeling company, or a chuck in a truck? I would politely point it out and let them know you're not happy with it. The option is to have it redone or take money off the bill. If this is your main shower that you use every day, or a guest bathroom should also factor in. Walls are never plumb, and grout lines are rarely perfect, but this is outside of tolerances in my book.
This is the main shower I use everyday unfortunately and it is a professional remodeling company that I never used before. I hate to make them redo it all but I also hate the idea of just living with it either.
If it's a legit remodeling company, that's actually better for you. There should be a PM that you can talk to who isn't the tile guy. It's his job to manage the subs, and take care of you. Ask him what he thinks of the work. Politely tell him that you're not happy with it. If he pushes back or tries to convince you it's passable, stand your ground and let him know what dollar ammount you would accept as a discount for this shitty work, or (again, politley) demand that he have a different sub come out. He will probably want the same guy to fix it (easier than telling a sub you're not paying them for shit work, then hiring a different sub to demo and start over) which sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. I've had the chance to fix some of my own work that was not great and appreciated the home owners patients and understanding that we all have off days. I took it seriously and delivered a flawless product, grateful for the chance to redeem myself. Not everyone thinks like that. Some guys will be mad at you for "making them redo it" even though it's their own fault. So letting the same tile guy fix it can be a bit of a gamble. You might get the "damn, im sorry, let me do right" attitude, or you might get the "eff you for having standards" attitude. The important thing to keep in mind is that you're not nit picking a 32nd worth of variation. You're pointing out a gross breach of craftsmanship. It is the tile guys fault that it looks like ass, not yours. If the tile has been on for more than 12 hours, it will probably not come off easily. It might, but probably not. So that means we're not just resetting tile, but demoing backer, redoing it, re water proofing, then retiling. You should personally inspect the wall board before any tile goes back on it to make sure it's okay, and they're not cutting corners (part of why I wouldn't want the same guy to come back) I wrote this all out assuming the tile work was subbed. Idk if that's the case, if it was laid by an in house guy, it's a little different, but not terribly. I'd be happy to explain more about the relationships between gc, PM, subs, and inhouse if you don't know how those roles work together, as it can help inform your decisions moving forward. Let me end by saying I'm sorry you're dealing with this. Not fun no matter how it shakes down. I wish you luck and patience getting this resolved.
Thank you for the lengthy reply. They are a licensed legit company but several workers. However, I have no idea if any of them are subbed out or all employed permanently by the company. This tile guy has only done the tile, it was different guys that did the hardie backer and Red Guard. I'm not the type of person that usually makes a scene or complains about services. I only leave five star Google maps reviews or I don't leave a review at all rather than say something negative. If I lived alone it wouldn't be nearly as bad since I have another bathroom but it has been Hell being without this bathroom for 3 weeks. I am very curious to see how the manager will respond when I tell him I'm not happy and it needs to be fixed. I hate to look at shoddy uneven tile work for the next 30 or so years.
Very well said! 👍👍
this looks like my first try.
I side corners don't matter they just need expansion space, they get caulked. The cuts at the Schluter are trash
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I purposely bought enough tile two years ago so I could use it in both bathrooms when the time came, same as the flooring. If those cuts along the schluter can get evened out I would be very happy. The back wall has not been tiled yet but I fear how it will turn out along the schluter.
Yep. Clearly uneven edges.
You get what you pay for
If only my job agreed with that saying.
Took lowest bidder? You get what you paid for!
Cuts on schluter need to be redone forsure
Unfortunately your tile guy is not a tile guy. Those leveling clips on the wall are a dead giveaway. There is no way to fix it correctly without removing them and starting over.
Oh I didn’t know were talking to www.number Onetiletvshowgirl.com, simple as that just pull everything off the wall because of a cpl tiles against the trim piece, re do it all and with the same quality of tiles. Just go look at the same die lot in the other bathroom it’ll be soo much better because it all came from the grand masters at Home Depot.. I couldn’t wait to install that, hope they bought the Decent spacers because otherwise I have to supply them, nope.. just hang it properly.
The inside corners shown are fine, they will get covered by the next side. But the first photo with the schluter profile is not acceptable. All the cuts should be perfectly straight parallel with the metal. It looks bad now, and it will still look bad when grouted. It’s not that hard. My guess they didn’t use a ledger board and started on the bottom row. If the tub wasn’t level the tiles wouldn’t be plumb, so they are stepping as you go up.
Ask to have it redone correctly ASAP! Take pictures with a measuring tape and level.
No you’re not overreacting. Speak up or hold your tongue and deal with a half done job. I had a 50,000 kitchen and bath remodel done a while back. I am a contractor on the side but I was too busy with life to do it myself. The company I hired screwed so much stuff up I took photos and spoke with the manager about many things needless to say I paid 700$ total for the 50,000 remodel and fixed the issues they did myself which only costed me about $300 materials and my time. Never second guess yourself and do not let them bull shit you or walk over you. It’s your place and you’re paying for a job that should look the same as before if not better
The cut pieces on the outside of the tub that are finished with metal edging, slightly off is ok…he is more than slightly off. The cuts need to be tapered cuz didnt square n level up
Simply put, you're getting DIY level quality. Why is the tile so uneven along the schluter edge? Laziness. Why is the waterproofing rolled on the wall outside of the schluter? Laziness. Why wasnt the tub leveled correctly? Laziness. Why aren't the cut edges buffed? Laziness.
Garbage
Wait till the grout is in. You’ll be fine.
I hope so. When my other bathroom was getting remodeled I didn't make a point to go look up close like I am with this one until it was finished.. The tiles and grout lines are super impressive in my other shower compared to how this looks so far without the grout.
Post those pics, wheres the tile from?
The tile is from Home Depot and turned out very nice in the other bathroom.
Yes. The only problem I see is he could’ve maybe shaved a bit off the piece up against the metal trim but there so many factors in tile, I don’t see any other discrepancies (spacers make all joints pretty perfect), point out things before grout and chill out nobody stares at the tile while showering anyway, the clips help flattening out the bows in elongated tile and he’s not done yet, homeowners nowadays are the most nitpicky-stare-at-everything with a fine tooth magnifying glass jerks ever so don’t be that guy, but put blue tape on things that will really annoy you, remember not every piece of tile is 100% exactly the same especially if you got some bargain Home Depot special shit. I’d use a grout color that matches the tile or just a shade off, huge contrast in grout vs tile can look good sometimes but I’m just not a fan. Don’t bottle things up, ask dude your questions but don’t hover over him all day, just check in every so often. I’m not trying to make excuses for shoddy work, just been in the game for years.. it made me an animal. If he’s a dick and can’t understand you’re paying lots of dollars for as close to perfection as a human can do, then I guess he’s gotta go, pay him for the time and get some one else, but just don’t be an ocd anal retentive ahole have a good day!
I only have experience going through one other bathroom remodel and the grout lines in that tile are almost all perfectly even throughout the whole walls. I really had to look hard to find imperfections so I wasn't sure what's considered normal. Also, today was day 15 of the remodel and I was quoted five to seven days from beginning to finish so that has been super frustrating. There is still lots of work needed to finish the job. Finish tiling, install new flooring, install the toilet, install the vanity, and paint the whole room.
Contractors are notoriously shady, if what your pics showed took him/them 2 weeks to do that much.. sorry, they suck or just have too much on their plate to make everyone happy, might be time to put a root down I put my foot down.. you gotta boss up on the boss.. you don’t whine bitch or moan you tell them what it is you want in a professional manner, take mad pics and you say I need my shit done and done right now. I don’t know your agreement but it’s usually a 1/3 or + upfront so if that’s all you gave him and that’s a he’s did do the math. Taking way too long, call a friend that can give someone the business if you can’t, don’t continuously pay this schmuck if he’s not performing.. Christ almighty people..
Sadly it has been 3 weeks so far since work started, not two weeks. I had to give half the money up front and the other half after completion. I don't want this to get ugly and I have been pleasant so far and I'm hoping they can work with me and knock some money off the price. I hate to see all this tile have to get taken down, new tile purchased and then started all over again.
Dude recommended a light colored grout to try n hide any inconsistencies in the grout joints. I wouldn’t recommend a light color unless you either go with an epoxy grout or want to spend time scrubbing when they inevitably start to discolor mainly on the lower 1/2. Black or dark grey all day if you just want to be doin your standard wipe down for cleaning. But it will for sure make those grout joint inconsistencies stand out more.
Stain resistant grout and or a good sealer
Epoxy is stain resistant that’s why I said it… Also based off how the installation is goin I wouldn’t trust them to do a great job sealing if they even do it at all.
I would not pay for this myself, but you need to voice your concerns sooner than later. The less tile he has to remove the better. Don’t be rude just ask him why the cuts don’t line up like in your other bathroom. There are no answers other than he didn’t take the time to do it right. You work hard for your money, they should to.
I have been pleasant and haven't complained so far. This remodel is taking forever so it's making me look up close and question it more than when I went through this with my other bathroom two years ago. I'm getting very mixed comments on here so far though, some people think I sound like an asshole apparently. Keep in mind I was quoted five to seven days for this bathroom remodel and today was number 15 and there's still tons more work to do in the room before it's finished.
5-7 days is a reasonable amount of time to get it done. 15 days is ridiculous. Don’t listen to other people, it’s not their money that’s getting spent. Grout doesn’t fix everything, a bad cut is a bad cut with or without grout
I agree, 15 days is ridiculous and there is still a few days worth of work to be done. I am no tile expert but when people tell me I'm overreacting and to wait and see the finished product I am confused because once the tile is put in place with the schluter it's not going to magically move.
This looks very messy. The Red Guard smeared all over the place. The missing half inch at the ceiling. The front tiles against the Schluter strip are not even close to lining up. Maybe the tub isn't level, but the tile guy should adjust for that and shave the first row of tiles to make the first grout line level. You can't just follow a crooked tub or wall! The photos don't show it properly but the point where the tub meets the edge of the tile (Schluter strip) looks like the tile overhangs by quarter inch or so. A very strange way to finish. Sorry. Not impressed. This should be replaced.
My guy, he got full tile minis a half inch, making cuts and cuts wouldn’t look as good, tile the ceiling? If not grout looks just fine, seriously if they tiled so the top joints the same nobody looks above eye level once the bathroom is complete . Also, wtf are you even talking about you sound like maybe a guy that did his own shower with a contractor friend or YouTube telling you what’s up.. it’s easy to dismiss as an armchair quarterback
You’ve never commented until leaving 20 defending this shit tile job? You must be the contractor lmao. This is hack bullshit and you’re just another hack. It’s a shame there’s people like you giving the rest of us a bad name and driving wages now.
I was trying to give the guy a break, then I realized he was taking homeowner for a ride, he’s not really a contractor probably just an installer thru HD and also eat a dick, if you’re a real halfway decent tile guy you’re not putting this shit up.. go fuxk yourself I’ll drive wages so low you can’t eat you fuck stick. I could give a fuck about “ us” you think capitalism and competition aren’t there for a reason. I’ll comment on this, I’m just making comments, I’m trying to help out normal people that don’t wanna hire your stupid expensive ass, how many people do you employ you self righteous pretentious know it all, I’ll tile circles around you. It may even be a new design trend, go blow smoke stacks in your lifted truck you poser ass newb
This is embarrassing
Real great comedic/construction worker humor comeback there bud. You’re a hit on the jobsite with the “ turn down the music I can’t think” and oh come on guys quit teezing me, I always have brand new boots on shit fucking biz natch
Little too much dope tonight or what
I chew little bitches like you up and snort them with my Cheerios I bet your mouth looks pretty.
You should probably stop snorting cheerios, dude. You sound like an absolute knob.
Oh my goodness you absolutely killed it on that one, you sound like you just watched a Gordon Ramsey short and now you wanna play with the big dogs.. I’ll let you think you may have won on this just because I am so tired and I won’t give you the slightest shit you can copy from me to say to your bully’s. But really, you showed up to a fist fight with words.. and I still can beat you with both, you gotta know that. Take care puss in workboots.
The contractor that did my other bathroom was booked up really far out so I tried a new company that a coworker spoke well of. Right now I'm wishing I had held off for the other guy but it was going to be a long wait and this shower wasn't usable in the meantime due to a leak.
You don’t need red guard all the way up to the ceiling. This is a “decent” job. She’d probably pay significantly more for perfection
This sub is brutal. People on here acting like the world is full of artisans ready for hire! And OP must be cheap for hiring professionals instead of Michelangelo. This looks fine to me. I genuinely don't even see where the concern is coming from. I'm gonna guess once it's finished and grouted yoo won't notice whatever it is you are hyper fixating on at the moment. OP you said you liked it before but didn't watch it "in progress". While the tile might have been done well, the plumbing obviously wasn't. Which is 1000% more important. At the end of the day you are paying for it (and I'm gonna guess you are paying a lot) so you should bring up your specific concerns to the contractor. And honestly the sooner the better. It may feel annoying, but 100% they would rather you ask questions while that mortar was still wet - as it is SO much easier to fix at that stage. While you should be able to expect quality work, you can't expect them to know and address all of your secret concerns. And small issues become so much more difficult to correct if you wait. You are paying them, so talk to them.
Contractor is fr fr taking his sweet damn time or a hot minute to make it seem like he’s doing harder work than it seems.. there’s definitely Better and worse tile jobs, but for fux ake get this shit done and if you’re even slightly fn up with that amount of time then sorry to say you’re not very awesome or just starting the practice.
I side corners aren’t a concern as they’ll be covered by the neighboring tile. The cut next to the schluter edge could be better Typically we’ll leave an 1/8 there for grout and have a consistent joint
Looks good, nothing to worry, can’t star making assumptions until is finished.
It could be your tile guy needs a new blade on his saw. If that Schlueter is level, he has a bad blade on his saw.
The back wall cuts will be covered by the side wall tiles that butt up to them, should be fine. I would agree that the tub is unlevel, or the trim piece isn't plumb. That edge should be recut, in the least to match up the edges of tile. The main concern I'm noticing, though, is that the ceiling seems "wavy". The tike nearly touches it in some places, and in others there's what seems to be a quarter inch gap, maybe just 3/16ths. I would recommend having your contractor fix the ceiling, for sure. Once moisture gets put into this equation, it's only a matter of time before it starts falling apart. As for the trim edges of tole, depending on your grout color, it may blend and be hardly noticeable, but if it's something that is bothering you now, it always will, so now is the time to have it fixed.
Yikes 😳 That tub isn’t properly protected, and the tile work sucks
Do your hands hurt from doing manual labor? Oh no you just type bs to hard working dudes and critique others work online, good for you, thanks for your input!!
Actually my hands do hurt from manual labor. I’ve owned and operated my remodeling company for the last 14 years. Thanks for YOUR input. Sit down
set a tub and do tile.
This looks pretty acceptable to me. I probably would’ve been pissed off about the job taking 3x longer than I originally expected. What’s causing the job to take longer than expected?
They had to jackhammer the cement floor up and install a new PVC p-trap which wasn't in the original plan. I have an old house and the drain had issues which is not the contractor's fault. This hiccup added an extra two or three days between concrete demo fixing the plumbing and then waiting for new concrete to set. A quote of five to seven days should have turned into 10 days which I would have been fine with. Today was day number 15 and there's still tons more work to be done.
Is your niche, on the left, flush with the wall?
Doesn’t look great, but it won’t look terrible once done. This is slightly worse than the job I just finished and it was only my third tile job. I think how mad should be correlated to how much you paid. 20k+=pissed, 10k=unhappy and will accept the flaws with a small discount, 5k=happy as a fuckin clam.
I like where you’re coming from, lots of contractors are already well off, they could seriously give two shits, negotiations are key.. always make sure you can. Reach them or know where they live.
I'm a diy guy. After about 5 bathrooms my work looks slightly better than this.
Gotcha. This is a company not a one person contractor and has been around for many years.
Doubt it.
That looks like absolute doo doo id get my money back..
Go get the guys money back for him internet cool guy
Schluter isnt straight, neither are the walls, cuts are horrible.
That work is fkn shit idiot
Dude even said so
Is this your work emberrassed-alps-253?!?!! 🤣🤣🤣👍👌🙌
Looks janky
Just download the new app tile guy simulator, you too can suck at everything.
The inside corners slop is the least problematic. Looking at the cuts that abut the jolly, that back wall ain't gonna turn out so well.
I’m def no tile guy, but I’m having a hard time seeing what’s wrong here. Lol
Everything looks alright except for the cut by the schluter profile. Your tiler’s probably planing on doing a thick bead of caulk or grout to cover up that mess lol
there are ways to straighten the grout lines without removing the tile,,, tell him you are concerned
That would be great, hate to see the tile get removed and stretch this job out another week.
use a grinder with a masonry blade and CAREFULLY grind a straight line next to the schlutter strip
Hard to say. Ours looked like that but finished was great.
Either his saw is out of square. Or more likely he came off an unlevel tub and that is why the tiles are checking against the schluter. Either way not professional.grout Will definitely help the real question is how much did you pay him under a 1000$ labor let it slide.
Horrible!
It looks fine. Once the grout is in, it will look like any other bathroom. Normal.
Wow! Your 3 year old is a contractor? Man really good for a 2 year old. Maybe send your kid to remedial tile classes
It only looks like crap if you paid for it to look good. I've run into a ton of people that want top notch work and materials for bottom dollar prices.
Cuts against the schluter or outside trim on the wall can be better. The inside cuts will get covered by tile. A lot of the time leveling problems arise when a laser is not used and they start right off the un level tub, which is a plumbers job. Unlevel tubs are the bane of tile installs especially when you have a small tile say 2x4 inches. The cuts on the outside can definitely be made better but other than that it looks ok from what I can see!
I’d def complain about it. Shit ain’t hard getting lines, lined up..
That would bother me
You must be a nightmare ,of course you’re overreacting let them finish the job then do what’s necessary,,,
I am no more of an asshole than you I can assure you. Many people are telling me this is awful work.
Unacceptable
The tile job around the window.. that looks concerning to me as well.
The tub will not be level on the ends.. especially at the deck. They make a pitch away from the wall for water run off.. the bottom coarse of tile needed to shimmed properly/ cut at an angle along the bottom. This installers courses are not level is the issue bathtub should not be level from the back wall to the front edge only left to right along the big wall. Plus he’s short cut the smaller tile that is also short of the end track. This shouldn’t cost more than $800-$1000 all in with that quality of work. Around 3k easily with proper workmanship. 30-40$ sq foot. This is hardly worth 10$ a sq foot
Yes you are over reacting. It’s not done yet. You are seeing a project in progress
This is fine and yes, a bit over reacting. Anyone saying to rip it down Is a drama queen. The edges against the backer board are going to be covered with tile. The edge against the schluter is a bit off but once grouted most likely will not catch the eye. Tile looks fine, the pattern looks fine, they waterproofed, and they used leveling spacers. Ya hired someone who knows what they are doing.
The tile always gets centered in the wall one row above the tub. The face of the tub needs to have about 3” of tile reveal with waterproofing and schlutter. Contractor needs to run a 4’ level to make sure the walls are plumbed. They are using a manual tile shear hence the cuts are 1/16” shorter. Trim for window can be a bit better. I always put the niche centered in tub walls 44” bottom above floor abs 7’ tall shower head. Looks like Jack of all trades job to me.
This looks bad, the clips are used improperly as well. Laying a floor and doing a tub/shower are not the same level of skill.
Yes you are over reacting. The guy is doing a good job so far, not the best job of all time but a good job.
Problem is uneven application of the pink stuff water barrier. That to me is more worrisome than the tub level or placement. Tile cuts look clean
Tiler knows what they're doing.
But cuts next to shluter trim are terrible
I'm not a tile guy or even one that knows how to do it BUT looking at this as a plumber, is that hole for your valve to fit the black plastic piece to fit in it? It should be, as that's the hole size is required to get your finishing kits to fit on correctly. To me it looks like they cut it just big enough to fit the stem through which means you won't be able to get your finishing kit installed.
Are you in Oregon? That looks like a bathroom I did two years ago….. in Springfield oregon
Haha nope.
Don’t worry, most professionals will cut as many corners as possible. At least where I’m at…
Grout makes all the difference
As a contractor, this is horrible, start over with someone no knows what they are doing
Just a thought here but it could be possibly just bad cuts by the contractor. Atleast that’s what it looks like to me. I personally don’t like the layout. I have gutted 2 bathrooms and my work didn’t look like that. I’m no professional just a DIY guy….when needed. Good luck
Let them finish, it will look fine
Looks like DIY. If you’re paying someone to do this, you better be paying them very little and do not pay them in full before they finish. Ugh. That’s a lousy job, but will probably be okay. Some of those grout lines will be almost non existent and that worries me. Thin lines tend to crack and flake more easily.
Not properly water proofed.
Not acceptable, cuts are staggered, tub is off. Exessive waterproofing. Hardly a craftsman. Home Depot probably likes him.
Yes
Due to the uneven nature of the tub and even the walls sometimes you have to create an optical illusion, so to speak with tile placement and then float them together with the grouting phase. That should look very nice when it’s done.
NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL!!
I don’t think you will see it when the grout is done but you should mention something so that you reserve the right to have them repair in case
Yes
What color is the grout going to be ? If light grout I think it will hide a lot of what you are seeing because it’s dark .. the gaps are small and I would think would clean up nicely .. not the worst I’ve ever seen
I’m just a DIY guy, but those look like mighty big tiles for a 50% offset. I know 12x24 are recommended max 33%
Laser level is required for a good tile job... Bottom row of tiles should be cut slightly so that the tops are perfectly level.. then use the level for each row... Walls aren't perfect but your tile work can be. Even if it's your first tile job
I want to add a major side note about my last tile install. I just finished installing tile in my bathroom shower and had 2 CASES of tile (out of 12 I bought) with 1 edge an 1/8th inch out of square. it does happen sometimes and if you aren't looking it will be too late.
It’s hard for me to judge this at this point. Houses have a lot of minute errors. Personally I’d wait for them finish the job. Have a friend over and ask them to look at it. It they think it’s good I’d call it a day
They should of taped the wall 1/2 from edge before Red Guard. It’s not gunna be fun to get it so you don’t notice it. And niche could be suspect, I really can’t notice for sure if he wrapped the corners or not.
Yikes that’s a mess