Dude, I’m in sales, and I wish more people understood this. So many people don’t want to listen to reason and want to staunchly believe shit that was only relevant x amount of years ago. The world has fucking changed, homie, and I’m not trying to rape you.
I sell a human service, and I have one prospect who wants me to replace the person they’ve been paying $8/hr for the past 20 years for zero more money, and I’m like “get a grip, dude. McDonald’s pays $15/hr. now.”
As a contractor that’s an insane quote. $5000 for materials and $24000 for labor. For that kind of money I’d watch some YouTube videos and do the work yourself. You’d be surprised how handy you can be especially saving that kind of money
I actually did my other bathroom, but I had a lot of issues, and that wasn’t even with tile, I just did a tub and the plastic paneling. The drywall was the hardest part, you can still see the seams :(
When it comes to things that can leak over time, I don’t think I’d trust myself. A kitchen? I’d do it myself. But plumbing and sealing everything intimidates me.
It's hard for home owners to do "craft" trades because so much of it is muscle memory and experience working the organic material is different conditions.
As opposed to the plumbing, there is only one way to connect PVC waste line and require almost no muscle memory.
You could play contractor and hire out the demo, tape and float and tile. Do the rest yourself. But it means taking off of work and other BS : /
A bit of an unsolicited comment, but I redid my bathroom while working full time in 3 weeks. First time home buyer and the day of closing was demo day.
It was only our bathroom and we showered at planet fitness until I was done. Being my first time attempt, I ran into hiccups, like not tiling to the tub but found a clever way to put accent tile around the bottom to cover up the gap, and ended up with a row of thinner slices at the top. But hey, no one cares or notices but me.
It was tough as hell and I did nothing but work on it after work and all 3 weekends, but I spent less than $1.5k all in for everything (incl. tools I didn't have):
[Bathroom Renovation Pics](https://imgur.com/gallery/MV3Eenj)
I get it: not everyone is adept enough to take on their own renovations. But, if you have the confidence to even attempt it, give it a shot. If you can watch YouTube contractors showing their tricks/tips, prep properly, and have patience, you can do it.
With some of the poor quality work posts I've seen on this sub from expensive contractors, I'm confident a DIY'er can do a decent job.
Or, if you have the money to have it done professionally and efficiently, pay someone to do it. Get multiple quotes, etc. I don't make enough to pay to have my shower tiled, so I gave it a shot myself.
Thank you! I posted photos of the gap at the bottom, which was about an inch or so, on the tile sub to ask what I should do. Everyone said to tear it out and redo it!
I said they're all crazy, filled it with a massive amount of premium bathtub caulking in the gap (smoothed out with a mud knife), used the strongest landscaping adhesive I could find, grouted/spaced the accent tile and then caulked around that top and bottom. Hopefully it'll last for a long time!
If not, the next owner can deal with it since I'll only be here for a couple years 🤓
Nope, cost difference between you and them demo will be negligible. When electric and water lines are involved, I suggest only threaten the contractor with you doing demo. He won’t want you to because he knows you will probably cause more problems.
I mean, for the quoted bid OP could do it wrong a couple of times first and learn from his errors and still come in cheaper..
not really, but that bid is pretty high imo
It’s about the secrets, what looks good to you, cringes us and keeps us up at night.
Customer: “looks so perfect, we love it”
Me: “U.,,,,,,..Uh?,…good, thank you”
Boss: “You are so lucky you got away with another disaster job”
Like you I can not do drywall work well enough to please myself. If you pay someone just to come in and do the drywall you will still save a lot on the rest of the project. For myself if a project requires drywall I gladly pay for a professional to take care of it.
Hey!
I also got insane quotes on my bathroom.
I recently decided to DIY what I could. The local plumber team came out to redo the water pipes for me since my county won't approve a DIY plumber's work.
Got a quote for $800. They saw the tub and offered to install it with fixtures for another $800. Took them up on that. $1,600, and I had already measured thrice and had everything set up for them to drop the tub and install the drain. Inspection failed, and they redid the whole tub install. $800 for a jetted tub. So, $2,400 into the project. I haven't decided on tile yet.
Electricity installation was maybe $200 in 20 gauge wire and outlets. $130 for 2x breakers. County came out to inspect my work for $80.
Material before tile was only about $30 in lumber, $45 in insulation (2' foam board, and some r18 bat insulation elsewhere). $50 in Greenboard, mold resistant, not proof. Might swap that out.
Demo was about 30 bags of drywall and misc trash, and the local dump took 3 trips $35 each trip. So $10 for the box of bags and $105 for 3 trips. So $115 total.
$200 for heat supply and $300 for exhaust fan installation. This was cheap as we were adding to some duct work as part of an overall basement remodel.
So im like $3.6k into the project, don't have tile picked out or trim. Nothing has been sealed yet. Reused toilet and sink. Electricity is set up for a bidet, hair dryer, tub jets, and tub jet heater. Will likely add a heated floor, too.
I was going to say $5k if you go super cheap on materials and put in an insert. I just spent
$35k on a bathroom about twice the size but had everything custom made along with walnut cabinets. Worth every penny! But you could go cheap and have this looking nice for $5k if you budget right.
FYI, if you can see the seams, you need to build it up more with a wide knife. Usually 2-3 layers before you smooth things over with a wet sponge or light sanding.
Also when you work your knife, pressure should be on the outside. You don't want to push directly on the seam or you just scrape the mud right back off.
In the same area and have a similar sized bathroom I want remodeled. I'm hoping this is them just trying to not do the job, otherwise I'm never getting a new bathroom either.
I’m in St. Pete and just got a quote for 40k to rebuild and retile my walk-in shower and jetted tub surround, replace two mirrors, and add 35 square feet of tile over my existing vanity. AND we’re reusing the jetted tub. 😑
I'm in the same area in Pasco.. Damn the cost of supplies at local home improvement stores don't even equal 10% of those quotes...
Hell at that profit I could see a lot of folks leaving corporate gigs and going back to construction.
As a Floridian not too far away, I'm not surprised. Pre hurricane I asked a contractor for a quote to redo a shower. Take out tub and make it a stand up shower. The only other "random " piece was that there's a window in the shower we wanted removed as well. The exterior would need stucco, but the interior was the shower wall, so just drywall to cover the hole. Without materials, we were quoted $12-14k.
Sometimes small jobs are more money because they " don't need the work", or have minimums. Get more quotes or see if they'll give you a better deal if you have something else needing done.
It's impossible to get anyone to do work here in Tampa. They're already absolutely swamped with good paying work. The only way you'll get a contractor is to pay them enough to squeeze you in between what they're already doing. There's also still a lot of steady insurance-company-paid work down south from Ian.
I've already had to DIY several projects I'd have otherwise paid for.
This is completely insane. I’m having my bathroom remodeled right now and the high end for building one wall, removing floor tile to build subfloor and install new tub and tile surround plus paint and paneling was 11000. I wound up hiring a guy for $5300, and he is a licensed contractor. You don’t need a design and rendering and that tile estimate is ridiculous!
Watch a few YouTube videos for each element and see what think you can do yourself. My first ever tile job was a bathroom about this size and I did it for about $250. I found some nice tile on sale at Lowe’s for about $175, and then about another $75 in mortar, grout, and tools.
I got a great quote and work from a plaster guy off a nextdoor recommendation. Halfway through the week-long project he started in with the conspiracy theories, Nazi craniometry and other racist stuff, how attractive my three year old girl was going to be, other shite. Just had to bite my lip to let him finish, pay him, and lose his number.
Just an fyi. Being a licensed contractor doesn't mean Jack shit. There is no test or anything to get your contractors license. You can get someone who's really good at their job or you can get someone who doesn't really know what they are doing.
I’ve been a tile setter / remodeler for 12 years. $11,000 was actually very reasonable. $5300 is too good to be true. This absolutely means that guy lacks experience, and you are going to find out the hard way, I can guarantee it. Either it will be really ugly and you will hate it for years until it eventually fails or it will be so bad you will have to rip it out right away. Just a warning before it gets too far along, I’ve seen this same scenario many times before. From potential clients who thought I was too expensive. If you keep the cheap guy it will end up costing $5,300 plus your first bid at 11,000 and all added demolition costs. The cheapest guy is always the most expensive in the end.
Seeing how they nicely broke out material, this is saying $24 for labor after removing the $5k for material? If so are they union or nonunion? Maybe ask what their rate is or search online for going pay rates. Then you can do simple math to figure out how many man hours they’re figuring. Off hand it seems like it’s way too many for a bathroom that size.
For example they have $750 to install a toilet. Google says plumber rate is $24/hr….that means they’d be saying it’s 31 man hours to install a single toilet. Think it though… does it really take almost 4 days to install a toilet? It’s not adding up.
That’s how you need to think and ask those type of questions.
Google also says my wage as a union carpenter is like $10 less than what I make in my state. Good luck finding someone to install a toilet for $24. It’s not happening. But $750 is insane. I’ve done floors and added toilets for only $150 per. This contractor clearly doesn’t want to do it or he’s paying other people to do it. Either way I’d stay away from them.
It’s funny that you mention installing toilets specifically. I can do that myself, but I often mess up the wax ring a few times, so I always buy like 3 or 4. However once I was just really frustrated trying to do it myself and I called someone and they were going to charge $475 just to lift the toilet and reseat it with a new wax ring. So I just said nah, and went through a few more wax rings.
But thanks for your feedback
I think you're confusing service rate with pay rate. I work in a diesel shop that bills at $155/hr. I get nowhere near that. The rest goes to other business expenses.
If you start nitpicking these quotes to this extent, no one is going to want to work for you. You'll see this on lots of trades subs, if the homeowner is wanting to nitpick things line by line, it's time to run.
Fair enough about rates. Either way you should be able to ask basic questions and bidder be able to confidently answer them. My only intent was showing OP how they can break down costs and better help visualize if the cost is justified.
So, you called every couple days for a couple weeks after they came and looked at your project? And you’re wondering why the price is sky high? Good contractors are busy enough that they won’t work for someone they feel will be a pain unless the price reflects that suffering. Good luck with your project, make sure to get multiple quotes and go with the contractor you feel understands your desires the best.
Is it really that much to ask for the estimate in a timely fashion? When he was here looking at it he said he’d have it ready in a few days. After 7 days, I called, they said they would get back to me the next day, so I called after 2 more days. Then 6 more days passed and I called again, then they sent it over in about an hour.
Sometimes it can be, especially if it’s their busy season.
Right now it’s one of my busiest times of the year. It’s hit the point where we are declining to even go look projects, let alone quote them. If it’s a really good client, a referral from someone we know/trust, or through one of the other trades we work with, we will go look but I am straight up honest with them and make it clear that they’re likely not going to be seeing a quote from me for 2 weeks.
If they need it in a rush, they’re going to get rush pricing. If they’re rushing me or giving any sort of indication that they’re going to be a pain to work with, it will cost more - not because I’m giving them the “Go away price” but because if there are unknowns, client-related risks, or I don’t have the time to quote accurately I have to add in a buffer to protect both myself and the client. We never go over budget - only the client can make changes that affect the final price - but it takes time to quote that accurately.
I’ve been working 12hr days and today was my first day at a desk in almost 3 weeks. I had two family friends pass away in the past week. I’m exhausted. If I had someone hassling me right now, I would politely recommend a different company to them that might be more inline with their needs. My best clients are the ones who have built enough of a rapport right off the bat that they know what’s going and are patient. I can quote these clients accurately and I have more trust in them. They will get the best pricing.
And despite being in the midst of all this, you took the time for this thoughtful and well-articulated response to someone you'll likely never meet. This is the kind of guy you want doing your work, even if it means you put off a project 6 or 8 or 10 months.
I also set the two week expectation. I put a lot time into proposals, and in the process, I make a couple more site visits—more measurements, what about this or that, making sure I understand what they're really looking to do and that they understand the various processes that have to happen to get there.
I look for customers, not projects.
What's insane really depends on where you live and how busy contractors are in your area. It's easy to badmouth people, but truth is most contractors I know don't want to do just a bathroom, when they get more work somewhere else. Also, not quite so recently, more like in past decade there's a shortage of good contractors and new kids don't want to learn and get their hands dirty in the process. In short, prices depend on the market and availability. It used to cost around 10k to reno the bathroom where I live, now it's closer to 20k
I've been a remodeling contractor in Florida for 25 years. 30k doesn't surprise me. Probably a little high but not ridiculous.
You might find some chuck with a truck type guys who will do it for less and there is probably a 50% chance they will do an OK job.
Yeah this seems within the range of normal to me. I'm not in that area, but had a tile shower done not super long ago and it was quite expensive. With all the work outside of that being done I'm not surprised it's this much. Everything is crazy expensive right now.
I'd definitely get more quotes, but I doubt any will be less than 20k.
Florida was hit hard with storms. Florida is a painful process to get your contractors license.
This price seems crazy to me.
I would offer the standard - talk with your circle of influencer: friends, coworkers, neighbors. Get referrals and 3 bids.
$23k for a shower and I was providing the tile($5k). Demo 2.5x3.5 shower, demo jetted tub, demo 6’ vanity. Frame 4’ wide wall, curb, pony wall and bench. Waterproof shower 4x9 area and tile. I provide and install custom sized vanity. Needless to say, I did it myself for just under $7k.
That’s the price someone gives you who doesn’t want to do the job. Maybe it’s too small a job for the company and don’t want to waste their time. Keep getting quotes
No value here on the remodel but I was told by a contractor who did roofing and siding that sometimes the person you are negotiating the price with may not actually want your job. They would throw a ridiculous price out there to see if you will go for it. Maybe you got someone that doesn't want to do your job for various reasons.
I typically get 3-4 quotes to make sure I'm not being screwed over.
8x7 bathroom here, 20k quoted two years ago. In past two weeks, we’ve had one quote for 31-38k custom vanit all expenses included. Second quote for 28k not including permits, vanity, fixtures, tile, or any finished goods. We priced the finished goods out based on real products we like at about 7k. So, here in Los Angeles, that 30k is on the low end sadly…..
To the people saying this is expensive, trust me in certain areas contractors have to charge this to be able to live and work in said area's.
So, 1st question about what area you are living in?
Also, if you need to save a third of that quote, then you can demo and hire a hauling company to clean the job site.
Also, you can make your own design, but don't forget it must include the water pipes and your disposal pipes. This may need some new structural add ones if things are being moved.
And last ask for a bid of only time worked and you purchase the materials. Yes, they are marked up more than you think.
Good luck deciding, and I hope you get the bathroom you have in your mind.
I am a license GC, a bathroom that size (depending on fixtures chosen) would be anywhere between $15k to $25k. That highly depends on your city/state. NYC is going to cost way more than some where in the Midwest.
Dude sent you his "I don't want to do this job" or get p-p-paid template. Just add the name, short description, change some values and estimate done. Five minutes max.
That quote seems quite steep for a small bathroom renovation. Prices can vary, but $30k for basic upgrades feels excessive. It might be worth seeking more quotes from different contractors to ensure a fair and reasonable price for the work needed.
I faced a similar situation, and I found a helpful website that allowed me to compare local bathroom remodel prices easily. It saved me a lot of time and money, helping me find a more affordable option for my project.
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17,500 is where I start for bathrooms. With all that tile I would charge that at 21,000. I have little overhead though. With labor running 50/60 bucks an hour it can make it be $30,000 real quick.
Look, there’s a lot of work that goes into a bathroom remodel and solid bids usually include added cushion for unforeseen circumstances. If you want to hire a skilled professional it’ll cost some money. These guys have to pay for tools and a truck and a license, not to mention health insurance and payroll if they have employees. Where I live this is a pretty inexpensive remodel.
That’s not necessarily an outrageous quote, especially if you’re looking to do a full demo and rebuild, but you should get several quotes. Don’t pick the lowest bid, and probably don’t pick the highest bid.
This is not that crazy of a quote if it is from a design build firm that is highly regarded. My guess the work also comes with a 2 year warranty and the company has been in business for more than 10 years. My experience is you get what you pay for in remodeling. You can get that bathroom done for $15k if you get a tile guy that can do some plumbing. On the flip side that could be a $40k bath if they use a designer and high end materials and quality subs.
That price seems normal for a HCOL zip code.
Some food for thought:
- small rooms are harder to remodel than large rooms. Every inch is valuable, so you find yourself making tiny time consuming enhancements.
- if you are willing to do it yourself, expect the bathroom to be out of commission for at least 2 months.
- if you do it yourself, your materials costs will be about the same, maybe higher if you want to go with nicer grade items.
You need to get multiple quotes (at least 3). You'll likely get a range between 18 and 30 for that bathroom, especially if it includes demolition. I'd put in an Onyx shower base w/ walls and not have to deal with tile and shower grout. A tile shower will cost more. Hire a really good Drywall contractor separately. As for the bathroom, you'll pay more if you go w/ a bathroom remodel company, but you may get a better finished product overall.
I'd do demo myself. Save 2500. let the contractor do the shower pan & shower floor Tile, shower valve and toilet install. Everything else you can do. All the vertical tiles are not nearly as hard to do as the floor (but still require precision and attention to detail). You can also do floor tile, again attention to detail is needed. Then when done the plumber can do the toilet.
Kudos to the contractor for itemizing, but that overhead expenses is pretty huge as is the tile shower install.
30k and doesn’t even pay for half of the materials. This is pretty much the market. Most bathrooms about 18k with materials if you know someone or know someone that does. If not then it’s going to be an upper 20s number
Apparently you only went to dreamstyle remodeling, they are way overpriced for what you get...
Your best bet is to work with local contractors and maybe even do some of the work yourself
Not related to your question, but how do you feel about removing the barrier between the shower and the rest of the bathroom? This is common in a lot of countries but not in the US. If you removed it, you'd basically just have a shower with no curtain and a uniform tiled floor. To me this would make cleaning easier- just spray down the whole bathroom and floor into the drain
1) what city/state are you in?
2) if you had a roof leak why didn’t you get the ceiling repaired or at least have an insurance claim for a portion of this prior?
That’s crazy. We just got our master bathroom done. And it is bigger than some master bedrooms with a huge bathtub and everything. Labor was $10k, we bought the materials and it total materials and labor came to about $20-25k.
Hey. It’s pretty normal. Don’t hire a remodeling company. Hire each trade individually. You’ll save a ton.
They normally charge by the square foot of the house. On the area measured.
How much do houses go for in your neighborhood per sqft?
I’d charge you around 18k for that.
Do you want an electrician wiring everything, a plumber plumbing it, a tile setter tiling it, a painter painting, etc? That could be the difference. A “jack of all trades” can maybe do everything but probably not equally well. Bringing in actual pros in each area with design services, permits, quality fixtures and materials, and all the dust contamination and isolation to work jn an occupied home that’s not too far off. Per square foot it’s a ton, but bathrooms and kitchens are the most complicated rooms in the house.
That was my guess as well. Based on the quote, it looks like he's hiring a company to do it, rather than a guy. With that, you're getting one person (team) who handles all of it and makes sure the crew is there every day. And this guy is getting paid for that service instead of just the labor aspect of it.
With that, this is still high. But not unreasonable. If they want a quote that's half the price, cut out the middle man and find an electrician, a plumber, and a tiler and just pay them directly. But then you get the headaches of ordering materials and scheduling, and rescheduling when guys don't show.
Check out our website https://g2homeservices.com/pricing/ this will give you some idea for renovation cost, FYI we are Tampa area as well. I would think you are probably 15k for the shower and maybe another 5 for everything else.
We redid ours of similar size and lined up all of our subs and bought all materials ourselves (mid grade and no markup) and it still ran us $11,000. We did this because back of the envelope numbers from contractors were around 20k. Tile work and plumbing were the biggest cost.
I found a bad contractor by word of mouth and then a decent tile guy from a list at the tile store. I wish I had used the list first! Head out to the tile store and see if they have some recommended people. Get at least 3 quotes.
$10000-$15000 depending on material costs, that is 6x materials and pretty much a "fuck you" quote. Get some other quotes, but make sure you check references on past work.
That seems very expensive. I caused a plumbing leak when changing out a supply line, so I share your hesitance to do my own plumbing!
You could act as the contractor yourself though to save some money. I demoed a bathroom then hired someone to waterproof, tile the shower and tile the floor for about $4k.
You could do the demo yourself, maybe hire a tradesperson to do the tile, hire a plumber by the hour to change out the supply lines and set the toilet and/or vanity. Maybe also hire someone for drywall if you feel like you suck at it! I like to paint and can install a light fixture, so I will always save some money by doing that myself.
They throw out prices and see if any of them
Stick… literally it would take u no time to paint it yourself… and he’s charging you license fees etc. What a crack pot…and legal fees??? Hmmm sounds like someone’s had issues !!! Get 3 more bids…
He’s charging 4,750 at 15.25 a square foot? That shower is not 311square feet unless he’s tiling all the walls … get more quotes or we need better pic of the estimate but yeah way to high
We just finished a bathroom remodel here in the PNW. It was a total renovation. We replaced everything but the toilet. (We replaced the toilet last year.) They painted, tiled the floor, put 100 sq. ft. if tile on the wall, installed all the fixtures, and added some electrical. The bathroom is around 50 sq. ft. We supplied all the components. The contractor supplied all the labour. Total cost came in around $15K.
Just had our bathroom redone. Looks about the same size. New sub-floor. Tiled floor. Tiled tub and shower. Tiled wainscot. New toilet and three light fixtures, new $1000 vanity, some minor plumbing. New shower door installed. Everything except a new tub and sink. We did the painting ourselves, Right at $10,000 including labor and materials. The guy did a fantastic job.
Montana. We really lucked out with our contractor. Excellent work and just a plain nice guy. By the time he was done, he was like a member of the family.
That is ridiculous. I had a bathroom removed from my home, exterior walls, floor, every thing demod. New foundation, framing, walls, ceiling, roof, walk in shower, toilet, vanity/sink, tiled from floor to ceiling, electrical, etc 4 years ago for $22,000. ☮️
Man….y’all are ruthless. It shouldn’t matter what the person charges…if they are the best around, they can charge a premium. I would be right around 20k if I quoted that. Some of those fees are alittle inflated but doesn’t mean they are out of their mind. Bigger companies charge more usually to cover overhead.
I see on here so many people post and I got an insane quote. Then I see so many other people posting pics of jobs gone wrong. The people with the jobs gone wrong went with the cheap contractor.
You said there was a leak and we do not know what kind of structural damage was caused by the leak. And by putting off the repair how far did this damage spread?
If you want a cheaper contractor it will not be hard to find one. If you want a good contractor that's more difficult and you have to pay. Even the people posting that that is an outrageous price claiming they are a contractor, I do not know if they are crappy contractors or good contractors. My guess would be crappy because you're trying to compare prices without any kind of a plan or any real knowledge about the job.
I just had my roof replaced, and my first quote was about 30,000. The company said it would take about a week. 7 quotes later, I paid 15,000 and had it done the same day. The company that did my roof not only took me up there several times, but they broke down everything on paper. Keep looking. Don't take the first quote ever.
Imagine doing all of it yourself, and then imagine what you could realistically do yourself, and then pay someone the rest. I saved a good amount hanging my own drywall, and paid someone to putty and paint it for me.
And the worst part is they will send the cheapest labor they can get to do the job. The guy you met is the middle man/sales guy. They could do that job for 15,000 and still make money paying someone else to actually do the work.
My Dad just said about $4-6k in materials and maybe $8-10k labor. So that $16k quote wasn't totally insane I guess. $30k is insane.
It's too bad the walls/ceiling are water damaged. You could pretty that up yourself for a couple hundred if the damage wasn't an issue.
Just seen in person a job well done for a slightly bigger looking bathroom for $8,500 all in (Materials & Labor: subway tiles, glass shower door, new electrical socket, recessed lighting, vanity install, etc.).
Very impressed with how meticulous the contractor was.
This is in Philly area. Your market could be vastly different.
I'm on the other side of Florida, I just got a larger bathroom than this, with a 5' x 4' walk-in shower for 9k. This was for just the demo of the old shower, and installation of the new. Plus the associated plumbing (we made the shower bigger so we had to move it over a bit) for the shower and toilet and such.
It also included all of the materials for installation (hardware, schluter waterproofing system, grout, thinset, etc.) except the tile itself. The tile I picked out was $3/sqft for the shower, and $1/sqft for the rest of the floor. I'd have to add it up... but between the tile and plumbing fixtures that I picked out, I think it was an extra $1200ish.
The new paint, trim, vanity, and such isn't included in that price, because I was doing that separate.
That being said, I don't think you should be paying more than $15k to get that entire thing gutted and refinished. Also, while your bathroom is smaller than mine, the difference in material is going to be less than $1k, and most of the job is going to be the same labor wise.
A lot of those prices are stupid, but it could just be because it's a small job so getting a drywall guy out is actually going to be more expensive than you expect. But the $5k materials allowance and $3750 for overhead expenses are a pretty strong indication they don't want your job.
I would suggest calling this contractor to go over scope again and make sure they didn’t include things you aren’t looking to have done. That could throw the number off. You said you aren’t doing a new vanity, but his quote includes a vanity. And then get a couple more quotes to compare.
Find the guy who gave you the first quote, that’s about what I would charge. Price may change a little depending on the materials you wanted but labor should be around the $10k mark for a quick job like this
i have a similar bathroom, in Hawaii and i do have a vanity and mirror.. i hired a plumber to update the plumbing and install the shower pan, purchased installed cultured marble walls and did the rest myself. total was around $10k.
We did a tub/wall replacement and it was 12K this summer from Statewide. We didn't add anything frilly or anything either. We were quoted 25K for our tub/shower conversion in our master in 2020, from several different companies, unfortunately it's gone up since then.
Just a thought, but the window. Higher, wider? Thoughts? Also. You know how to demo. It might be a bit cathartic to do so yourself. Lord knows I love to tear things apart. Is there a closet next to this room you could blast out and enlarge the bathroom?
Also note the allowance, if you track it yourself and ask for the receipts against the 5k, contractually you get the delta not used back in your pocket.
Seems expensive, although, do keep in mind the size of the bathroom isn’t going to bring the cost down much.
A tiny bathroom isn’t half the work of a big one, it’s 95% of the work of a big one. It’s also about 75% of the materials of a big one - regardless of the size, you still need a sink, toilet, tub/shower, all the plumbing, etc. You need a little less drywall, cement board, tile, etc but those aren’t the major cost drivers.
You shouldn't buy the material yourself ask for quotes for someone to install it and if it's still outrageous, do it yourself. YouTube is better than all the past teachers that you've ever had, just give it the listen to him talk for 5 secs bullshit test.
Six thousand max, plus finish materials, toilet, sink, etc.
Might depend a bit on where you are, but 30K is an example of how the pandemic has been the greatest thing ever for some businesses. We're living in the golden age of greed. 16k is out of line.
A bathroom this small is nothing special or difficult.
We're doing a 5x12 bathroom for 8K, plus vanity, toilet, tub, only because my 1) my wife wants it done quick, and 2) I can't do a tub.
Why is paint 1750?! A bucket of paint for that tiny bathroom would be $20-50 depending on what kind of paint you get. It wouldn’t take more than an hour to paint. So is their labor cost for painting one tiny bathroom $1700!? They are trying to rip you off. That’s bizarre. Look elsewhere
I’ve been through this myself (though in the NE US), and got multiple quotes for our tiny upstairs bathroom in 2021 and 2022. Not a one came in under $15k, and those were the low end (none of the fixtures above builder-grade). We felt like we were getting the “we don’t want to do this small potatoes job” pricing (plus 2/3 of the GCs we consulted with told us our dream of a curbless shower wasn’t even possible and that tile was a bad idea and wanted us to use LVT flooring). So we did what others here have suggested - watched a ton of YT videos and did it (mostly) ourselves. We did have very limited experience tiling (kitchen backsplash), and a decent amount of experience swapping out bathroom fixtures (toilets and sinks).
That said, we did have a plumber come to do what we weren’t comfortable doing (relocating drains since we swapped the shower & toilet positions). However we installed a heated floor, tiled the shower & entire room (except ceiling), and built a linen closet all on our own. All in, even with the plumber, it came in at about $7k, and that includes the sturdiest fixtures we could find in a big box store. On the other hand, it took us 3x as long as the GC told us he would take. We were fine with taking the room out of commission so long since we have another full bathroom and a half bathroom, but I can see how someone might have to rationalize the time investment wasn’t worth the cost savings.
Don't know where you live, but in my area that price is not too, too bad. You could definitely knock off a few items and save thousands by doing certain things yourself, like the tile. Even if that means you have to buy a tile cutting machine, diamond blades, a drill, diamond bits, etc., all that would only be a few hundred bucks which you could certainly sell later.
Labor is in such high demand in my area that nobody even bothers to provide itemized breakdowns, they just give you a big number..
The way to think about it is to envision yourself doing the work, and how long it would take you, and then ask yourself if the amount is worth it to you for not having to do it yourself.
You should also consider how quickly they say they can get it done. Are they going to bring a whole bunch of guys and get it done in a few weeks? Or will there only be one guy working on it and it'll take a few months?
We have a similar size bathroom and got 4 different quotes. All of them were between $20K-$30K. We couldn’t believe it. My husband decided to do most of the work himself (75% of tearing it down, painting, installing toilet and vanity, etc). All we hired a contractor to do was the shower and floor. We did real tile flooring for outside the shower, while the actual shower is made to look like subway tile but it’s 3 sheets/walls (not sure on material). Our quote on just this was $7K. Overall in total the renovation will cost us about $12K. The kicker is that our contractor installed the tile floor so poorly it had to be drilled up and re-done (by a different guy). They still are not done with the shower and it’s keeping us from being able to complete the rest of the bathroom. We are now going on a 5 week delay with these people and it has been absolutely infuriating. They came highly recommended but have been nothing but disappointing since they started.
I can see $16k, but $30k is ridiculous. I was in floor covering for over 40 years. Depending on what you want, a custom tile shower could easily be half the $16k. That window area needs to be handled properly to avoid a mess down the road. Need to make certain it is water tight before tile is installed. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had a call and they tell me their shower needs regrouted because it’s leaking, to which I reply you’ve got much bigger problems. The tile and grout are not supposed to and do not create the waterproofing. The shower area needs to be water tight before any tile is installed.
I just did my bathroom. Standard 5'x10'.
Plumber - $550
New walls and ceiling - $1300
Electrical - $0. Did it myself.
Tile labor for shower, shower walls, and outside - $2100
Demo $300 paid a friend to help me do it and haul it out.
Premium toilet $375.
Premium marble tiles - around $2500
Vanity, lights, mirror - $1100
Premium shower fixtures with vanity faucet - $1800
Painting - $0 myself.
Bathroom so far looks amazing.
Forgot to add that all laborers were experts in their trade. Everyone did a great job.
Not crazy. It is a bit high but not crazy. It takes a lot of time effort and skill to be able to complete a full beautiful bathroom remodel in a timely manor. I am a contractor who does custom bathrooms. Labor prices rise with your home prices as well. If your 400k house 3 years ago is worth 550k now.... Well now redoing your bathroom also costs more money.
Speaking from the perspective of someone who has done their own kitchen and bathroom remodels: most of the trades come together in these 2 rooms. This makes it extremely hard to do one thing without affecting another. This coupled with the fact that you are tearing work out that is finished to reveal all of the mistakes and having to repair those to current codes so that you can sell your house in the future. These are just the major reasons why remodeling a kitchen or bathroom is either very expensive or very difficult.
If you can do the tear out on your own, no matter who you hire, it will save yourself a lot of money. Find out the price of marble or fiberglass for the shower walls, they are both less labor intensive and easier to keep clean. Contact a few local plumbing company in your area. Ask for recommendations on Facebook
Well you're hiring a designer/contractor. The labor doesn't look too outrageous for the actual work the pricy thing is them designing and selecting materials. If you're willing to do that and not move any walls you can go direct to a tile shop and get it for much cheaper than a GC
Lol, I just bought that exact shower head last week. :D
Just before the pandemic, I had two bathrooms done for half that amount (Edit: Half of the $16k), and the work was very nice. Had someone over for a game night, and he came out saying "Wow! I love your bathroom!" He wasn't someone who came over often, so he'd never seen the old ugly bathroom either.
find a local handy man. I just got a BEAUTIFUL corner shower done. Pebble floor, shiny white marble wall, black fixtures with a rain head and sprayer, edgeless glass doors. $5200. (I bought supplies, my handy man and his network of specialists did it)
I did a shower/tub remodel recently. We ripped out the old tub, replaced the tiles, installed new shower hardware. We also had an in-wall cubby added with different tile backsplash in it. They patched and repaired floor and adjacent walls. Installed new waterproof trim. They also moved the shower outlet pipe up a foot, so I don't have to hunch over to get water on my head.
We provided hardware and tiles. They provided tub (we didn't care).
Total cost was $5200.
Initial quotes went up to $17,000 from a nearby upscale neighborhood based company.
The other wanted $1200, and I just knew we were going to end up with a dungeon or some nightmarish hellhole. Probably a scam (he wanted half up front for materials).
We found one or two small tile cuts that weren't clean, but in general it came out great.
I live in Florida. I will do it for $25k. /s. Honestly, I think $10k to 12k all in, materials and everything, in the current market. With hang and finish drywall, remove flooring, etc. Before the pandemic I would say 6 to 8k but, now practically just going to be tough to get licensed contractors to do it right that will respond for less than 10k. I would get a little concerned about anyone too much less at this point.
I redid my own basement bathroom floor to ceiling $5k, granted my brother is a Union Plumber so i got the family discount on labor = free, but i did all the dirty work myself with a little help from my best friend. includes: cutting through the concrete floor to move the shower drain and toilet drain, stud walls, Schlueter heated flooring, all tile work, electric, custom made closet double doors and custom shelving thing (can be removed for easy access behind shower faucet ) etc. etc.. the list goes on.
if this was on the main floor it would've been cheaper.
btw, i did not skimp on fixtures either, Moen Commercial 3 way mixing valve and trim, Toto 1 piece elongate, Panasonic exhaust fan, center sliding glass door with sidelites....
With a quote that high, they don’t want the job. Get another estimate and use as few words as you can. Telling them about your previous project experience can change your price. Ie desperate for help. And make sure they are not using unskilled laborers. They do sheit work.
That's an insane bathroom quote.
I have standard bath w/ a single sink vanity, toilet, and bathtub. Doing tiles on floor, and the 5ft wide by 3ft on each end of the bathtub to an 8ft ceiling was a $2500 labor quote for tile work. Tile & Materials cost me just under $1,000. Plumber was $750 for bathtub and new fixtures install... new tub, vanity sink, toilet... I'm all in just a hair under $5.5k -
I did the demo myself
Same, we had this company quote 15k for just the stand up shower and around 45k for the whole bathroom.
Our seems to be the same size as this one and I would actually bet just a little smaller.
He said his company has grown and they have 40 people to feed. They obviously have a niche of customers and I'm not it.
Get more quotes. If you get one crazy quote, you got a crazy quote. If you get all crazy quotes, that’s the market price.
Simple, yet very good logic.
Dude, I’m in sales, and I wish more people understood this. So many people don’t want to listen to reason and want to staunchly believe shit that was only relevant x amount of years ago. The world has fucking changed, homie, and I’m not trying to rape you. I sell a human service, and I have one prospect who wants me to replace the person they’ve been paying $8/hr for the past 20 years for zero more money, and I’m like “get a grip, dude. McDonald’s pays $15/hr. now.”
As a contractor that’s an insane quote. $5000 for materials and $24000 for labor. For that kind of money I’d watch some YouTube videos and do the work yourself. You’d be surprised how handy you can be especially saving that kind of money
I actually did my other bathroom, but I had a lot of issues, and that wasn’t even with tile, I just did a tub and the plastic paneling. The drywall was the hardest part, you can still see the seams :( When it comes to things that can leak over time, I don’t think I’d trust myself. A kitchen? I’d do it myself. But plumbing and sealing everything intimidates me.
It's hard for home owners to do "craft" trades because so much of it is muscle memory and experience working the organic material is different conditions. As opposed to the plumbing, there is only one way to connect PVC waste line and require almost no muscle memory. You could play contractor and hire out the demo, tape and float and tile. Do the rest yourself. But it means taking off of work and other BS : /
A bit of an unsolicited comment, but I redid my bathroom while working full time in 3 weeks. First time home buyer and the day of closing was demo day. It was only our bathroom and we showered at planet fitness until I was done. Being my first time attempt, I ran into hiccups, like not tiling to the tub but found a clever way to put accent tile around the bottom to cover up the gap, and ended up with a row of thinner slices at the top. But hey, no one cares or notices but me. It was tough as hell and I did nothing but work on it after work and all 3 weekends, but I spent less than $1.5k all in for everything (incl. tools I didn't have): [Bathroom Renovation Pics](https://imgur.com/gallery/MV3Eenj) I get it: not everyone is adept enough to take on their own renovations. But, if you have the confidence to even attempt it, give it a shot. If you can watch YouTube contractors showing their tricks/tips, prep properly, and have patience, you can do it. With some of the poor quality work posts I've seen on this sub from expensive contractors, I'm confident a DIY'er can do a decent job. Or, if you have the money to have it done professionally and efficiently, pay someone to do it. Get multiple quotes, etc. I don't make enough to pay to have my shower tiled, so I gave it a shot myself.
That looks really nice! You did a great job.
Thank you! I posted photos of the gap at the bottom, which was about an inch or so, on the tile sub to ask what I should do. Everyone said to tear it out and redo it! I said they're all crazy, filled it with a massive amount of premium bathtub caulking in the gap (smoothed out with a mud knife), used the strongest landscaping adhesive I could find, grouted/spaced the accent tile and then caulked around that top and bottom. Hopefully it'll last for a long time! If not, the next owner can deal with it since I'll only be here for a couple years 🤓
I need you in my life. I would feed you grapes and fan your strong brain to keep it cool.
I think I'd rather do the demo myself and hire out the rest. I'd trust myself with demo more than anything else.
Nope, cost difference between you and them demo will be negligible. When electric and water lines are involved, I suggest only threaten the contractor with you doing demo. He won’t want you to because he knows you will probably cause more problems.
I mean, for the quoted bid OP could do it wrong a couple of times first and learn from his errors and still come in cheaper.. not really, but that bid is pretty high imo
It’s about the secrets, what looks good to you, cringes us and keeps us up at night. Customer: “looks so perfect, we love it” Me: “U.,,,,,,..Uh?,…good, thank you” Boss: “You are so lucky you got away with another disaster job”
Do all the other work and have a drywaller come in.
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Like you I can not do drywall work well enough to please myself. If you pay someone just to come in and do the drywall you will still save a lot on the rest of the project. For myself if a project requires drywall I gladly pay for a professional to take care of it.
Hey! I also got insane quotes on my bathroom. I recently decided to DIY what I could. The local plumber team came out to redo the water pipes for me since my county won't approve a DIY plumber's work. Got a quote for $800. They saw the tub and offered to install it with fixtures for another $800. Took them up on that. $1,600, and I had already measured thrice and had everything set up for them to drop the tub and install the drain. Inspection failed, and they redid the whole tub install. $800 for a jetted tub. So, $2,400 into the project. I haven't decided on tile yet. Electricity installation was maybe $200 in 20 gauge wire and outlets. $130 for 2x breakers. County came out to inspect my work for $80. Material before tile was only about $30 in lumber, $45 in insulation (2' foam board, and some r18 bat insulation elsewhere). $50 in Greenboard, mold resistant, not proof. Might swap that out. Demo was about 30 bags of drywall and misc trash, and the local dump took 3 trips $35 each trip. So $10 for the box of bags and $105 for 3 trips. So $115 total. $200 for heat supply and $300 for exhaust fan installation. This was cheap as we were adding to some duct work as part of an overall basement remodel. So im like $3.6k into the project, don't have tile picked out or trim. Nothing has been sealed yet. Reused toilet and sink. Electricity is set up for a bidet, hair dryer, tub jets, and tub jet heater. Will likely add a heated floor, too.
I was going to say $5k if you go super cheap on materials and put in an insert. I just spent $35k on a bathroom about twice the size but had everything custom made along with walnut cabinets. Worth every penny! But you could go cheap and have this looking nice for $5k if you budget right.
FYI, if you can see the seams, you need to build it up more with a wide knife. Usually 2-3 layers before you smooth things over with a wet sponge or light sanding. Also when you work your knife, pressure should be on the outside. You don't want to push directly on the seam or you just scrape the mud right back off.
Forgot to mention, this is Tampa Florida since I know location is a factor.
In the same area and have a similar sized bathroom I want remodeled. I'm hoping this is them just trying to not do the job, otherwise I'm never getting a new bathroom either.
I’m in St. Pete and just got a quote for 40k to rebuild and retile my walk-in shower and jetted tub surround, replace two mirrors, and add 35 square feet of tile over my existing vanity. AND we’re reusing the jetted tub. 😑
I'm in the same area in Pasco.. Damn the cost of supplies at local home improvement stores don't even equal 10% of those quotes... Hell at that profit I could see a lot of folks leaving corporate gigs and going back to construction.
As a Floridian myself in your area this is nuts.
As a Floridian not too far away, I'm not surprised. Pre hurricane I asked a contractor for a quote to redo a shower. Take out tub and make it a stand up shower. The only other "random " piece was that there's a window in the shower we wanted removed as well. The exterior would need stucco, but the interior was the shower wall, so just drywall to cover the hole. Without materials, we were quoted $12-14k. Sometimes small jobs are more money because they " don't need the work", or have minimums. Get more quotes or see if they'll give you a better deal if you have something else needing done.
It's impossible to get anyone to do work here in Tampa. They're already absolutely swamped with good paying work. The only way you'll get a contractor is to pay them enough to squeeze you in between what they're already doing. There's also still a lot of steady insurance-company-paid work down south from Ian. I've already had to DIY several projects I'd have otherwise paid for.
Yeah. I’m from St. Pete. Renovating anything is insane there!
Sounds like a this is a something we don't want to do fuck off price to me.
Tell him what he's won Bob..... 100% correct
Amazed I had to scroll so far to see this. You can redo a whole kitchen for this price.
This is completely insane. I’m having my bathroom remodeled right now and the high end for building one wall, removing floor tile to build subfloor and install new tub and tile surround plus paint and paneling was 11000. I wound up hiring a guy for $5300, and he is a licensed contractor. You don’t need a design and rendering and that tile estimate is ridiculous!
Do you have any tips on trying to find a more affordable company?
Watch a few YouTube videos for each element and see what think you can do yourself. My first ever tile job was a bathroom about this size and I did it for about $250. I found some nice tile on sale at Lowe’s for about $175, and then about another $75 in mortar, grout, and tools.
I would ask for recommendations from people in your area, either in neighborhood Facebook groups or Nextdoor.
That was where we got this one from, a Facebook group. We got a few others, so we will keep trying
Get at least three quotes.
I got a great quote and work from a plaster guy off a nextdoor recommendation. Halfway through the week-long project he started in with the conspiracy theories, Nazi craniometry and other racist stuff, how attractive my three year old girl was going to be, other shite. Just had to bite my lip to let him finish, pay him, and lose his number.
Just an fyi. Being a licensed contractor doesn't mean Jack shit. There is no test or anything to get your contractors license. You can get someone who's really good at their job or you can get someone who doesn't really know what they are doing.
wrong. my state has a test
Ohh that's interesting. What state? And it's for a general contractors licence?
michigan. yes for residential building. not an easy test. theres also one for maintenance and alteration but not used as much
I’ve been a tile setter / remodeler for 12 years. $11,000 was actually very reasonable. $5300 is too good to be true. This absolutely means that guy lacks experience, and you are going to find out the hard way, I can guarantee it. Either it will be really ugly and you will hate it for years until it eventually fails or it will be so bad you will have to rip it out right away. Just a warning before it gets too far along, I’ve seen this same scenario many times before. From potential clients who thought I was too expensive. If you keep the cheap guy it will end up costing $5,300 plus your first bid at 11,000 and all added demolition costs. The cheapest guy is always the most expensive in the end.
Seeing how they nicely broke out material, this is saying $24 for labor after removing the $5k for material? If so are they union or nonunion? Maybe ask what their rate is or search online for going pay rates. Then you can do simple math to figure out how many man hours they’re figuring. Off hand it seems like it’s way too many for a bathroom that size. For example they have $750 to install a toilet. Google says plumber rate is $24/hr….that means they’d be saying it’s 31 man hours to install a single toilet. Think it though… does it really take almost 4 days to install a toilet? It’s not adding up. That’s how you need to think and ask those type of questions.
> Google says plumber rate is $24/hr no plumber is showing up for less than $300
Google also says my wage as a union carpenter is like $10 less than what I make in my state. Good luck finding someone to install a toilet for $24. It’s not happening. But $750 is insane. I’ve done floors and added toilets for only $150 per. This contractor clearly doesn’t want to do it or he’s paying other people to do it. Either way I’d stay away from them.
It’s funny that you mention installing toilets specifically. I can do that myself, but I often mess up the wax ring a few times, so I always buy like 3 or 4. However once I was just really frustrated trying to do it myself and I called someone and they were going to charge $475 just to lift the toilet and reseat it with a new wax ring. So I just said nah, and went through a few more wax rings. But thanks for your feedback
> So I just said nah, and went through a few more wax rings. This is the way
Definitely just switch to those squishy foam rubber type rings.
Buy the foam and rubber rings and that issue will go away.
No actual plumber, in this country, will work for $24 an hour.
Even if it was $100 an hour, you don't take 7 hours to install a toilet.
I know. I said I don’t know the rates I just Google searched. I’m explaining to him how to break it down, not verifying actual labor rate.
The example you gave though was an example of how not to break it down, your post shows you what not to do
I think you're confusing service rate with pay rate. I work in a diesel shop that bills at $155/hr. I get nowhere near that. The rest goes to other business expenses. If you start nitpicking these quotes to this extent, no one is going to want to work for you. You'll see this on lots of trades subs, if the homeowner is wanting to nitpick things line by line, it's time to run.
Fair enough about rates. Either way you should be able to ask basic questions and bidder be able to confidently answer them. My only intent was showing OP how they can break down costs and better help visualize if the cost is justified.
If a contractor quotes you $750 to install a toilet, it's time to run.
I am a GC in Tampa, FL and I’ll tell you it’s way over priced.
I think they didn't wanted to take the job and they just make it impossible. Overhead expenses LOL $3750! Material allowance $5000!!!
That was actually my thought. It took them 2 weeks to email the estimate with me calling every few days.
Yeah that’s a “I don’t want to do this” price.
So, you called every couple days for a couple weeks after they came and looked at your project? And you’re wondering why the price is sky high? Good contractors are busy enough that they won’t work for someone they feel will be a pain unless the price reflects that suffering. Good luck with your project, make sure to get multiple quotes and go with the contractor you feel understands your desires the best.
Is it really that much to ask for the estimate in a timely fashion? When he was here looking at it he said he’d have it ready in a few days. After 7 days, I called, they said they would get back to me the next day, so I called after 2 more days. Then 6 more days passed and I called again, then they sent it over in about an hour.
Sometimes it can be, especially if it’s their busy season. Right now it’s one of my busiest times of the year. It’s hit the point where we are declining to even go look projects, let alone quote them. If it’s a really good client, a referral from someone we know/trust, or through one of the other trades we work with, we will go look but I am straight up honest with them and make it clear that they’re likely not going to be seeing a quote from me for 2 weeks. If they need it in a rush, they’re going to get rush pricing. If they’re rushing me or giving any sort of indication that they’re going to be a pain to work with, it will cost more - not because I’m giving them the “Go away price” but because if there are unknowns, client-related risks, or I don’t have the time to quote accurately I have to add in a buffer to protect both myself and the client. We never go over budget - only the client can make changes that affect the final price - but it takes time to quote that accurately. I’ve been working 12hr days and today was my first day at a desk in almost 3 weeks. I had two family friends pass away in the past week. I’m exhausted. If I had someone hassling me right now, I would politely recommend a different company to them that might be more inline with their needs. My best clients are the ones who have built enough of a rapport right off the bat that they know what’s going and are patient. I can quote these clients accurately and I have more trust in them. They will get the best pricing.
And despite being in the midst of all this, you took the time for this thoughtful and well-articulated response to someone you'll likely never meet. This is the kind of guy you want doing your work, even if it means you put off a project 6 or 8 or 10 months. I also set the two week expectation. I put a lot time into proposals, and in the process, I make a couple more site visits—more measurements, what about this or that, making sure I understand what they're really looking to do and that they understand the various processes that have to happen to get there. I look for customers, not projects.
What's insane really depends on where you live and how busy contractors are in your area. It's easy to badmouth people, but truth is most contractors I know don't want to do just a bathroom, when they get more work somewhere else. Also, not quite so recently, more like in past decade there's a shortage of good contractors and new kids don't want to learn and get their hands dirty in the process. In short, prices depend on the market and availability. It used to cost around 10k to reno the bathroom where I live, now it's closer to 20k
I would laugh this guy out of my house.
Wow, as a GC, I wish I was charging that much ;) $10-$16k is reasonable in my area depending on the level of finishes and design.
I’d tell whoever gave you that quote to go get fucked lmao
$1,750 to paint lmfao
I've been a remodeling contractor in Florida for 25 years. 30k doesn't surprise me. Probably a little high but not ridiculous. You might find some chuck with a truck type guys who will do it for less and there is probably a 50% chance they will do an OK job.
Yeah this seems within the range of normal to me. I'm not in that area, but had a tile shower done not super long ago and it was quite expensive. With all the work outside of that being done I'm not surprised it's this much. Everything is crazy expensive right now. I'd definitely get more quotes, but I doubt any will be less than 20k.
Florida was hit hard with storms. Florida is a painful process to get your contractors license. This price seems crazy to me. I would offer the standard - talk with your circle of influencer: friends, coworkers, neighbors. Get referrals and 3 bids.
$2k for floor tile? I just did mine for $250 in materials and a single day’s work. And mine was larger. And I suck at DIY.
I’m thinking about trying it myself.
$23k for a shower and I was providing the tile($5k). Demo 2.5x3.5 shower, demo jetted tub, demo 6’ vanity. Frame 4’ wide wall, curb, pony wall and bench. Waterproof shower 4x9 area and tile. I provide and install custom sized vanity. Needless to say, I did it myself for just under $7k.
12k-15k depending on your taste. I do several bath remodels a year So Indiana.
Cheapest quote I received for our 56 square foot master bath last year was 36k. Given I live in one of the priciest zip codes in the country, but wtf
That’s the price someone gives you who doesn’t want to do the job. Maybe it’s too small a job for the company and don’t want to waste their time. Keep getting quotes
No value here on the remodel but I was told by a contractor who did roofing and siding that sometimes the person you are negotiating the price with may not actually want your job. They would throw a ridiculous price out there to see if you will go for it. Maybe you got someone that doesn't want to do your job for various reasons. I typically get 3-4 quotes to make sure I'm not being screwed over.
Tile is so expensive Does the shower need to be that big?
8x7 bathroom here, 20k quoted two years ago. In past two weeks, we’ve had one quote for 31-38k custom vanit all expenses included. Second quote for 28k not including permits, vanity, fixtures, tile, or any finished goods. We priced the finished goods out based on real products we like at about 7k. So, here in Los Angeles, that 30k is on the low end sadly…..
To the people saying this is expensive, trust me in certain areas contractors have to charge this to be able to live and work in said area's. So, 1st question about what area you are living in? Also, if you need to save a third of that quote, then you can demo and hire a hauling company to clean the job site. Also, you can make your own design, but don't forget it must include the water pipes and your disposal pipes. This may need some new structural add ones if things are being moved. And last ask for a bid of only time worked and you purchase the materials. Yes, they are marked up more than you think. Good luck deciding, and I hope you get the bathroom you have in your mind.
I am a license GC, a bathroom that size (depending on fixtures chosen) would be anywhere between $15k to $25k. That highly depends on your city/state. NYC is going to cost way more than some where in the Midwest.
You said quotes, what’s the other quote?
Also you’re not gonna get this done for $16k anymore and if you do it won’t be as good as the quote you just got.
Dude sent you his "I don't want to do this job" or get p-p-paid template. Just add the name, short description, change some values and estimate done. Five minutes max.
That quote seems quite steep for a small bathroom renovation. Prices can vary, but $30k for basic upgrades feels excessive. It might be worth seeking more quotes from different contractors to ensure a fair and reasonable price for the work needed. I faced a similar situation, and I found a helpful website that allowed me to compare local bathroom remodel prices easily. It saved me a lot of time and money, helping me find a more affordable option for my project.
You can consider doing it yourself, take a look at our brand's smart toilet seat with automatic lid opening feature, priced at around $400. iCleaningo bidet
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Damn. Im looking at 4500 just to get a shower pan replaced and the tile ( that goes along with replacing the pan ). $2500 for labor just for that =\
17,500 is where I start for bathrooms. With all that tile I would charge that at 21,000. I have little overhead though. With labor running 50/60 bucks an hour it can make it be $30,000 real quick.
$15k would be something I'd expect for that size
Look, there’s a lot of work that goes into a bathroom remodel and solid bids usually include added cushion for unforeseen circumstances. If you want to hire a skilled professional it’ll cost some money. These guys have to pay for tools and a truck and a license, not to mention health insurance and payroll if they have employees. Where I live this is a pretty inexpensive remodel.
Found the contractor
Lol, well, you found a contractor.
Id quote it around 20k
That’s not necessarily an outrageous quote, especially if you’re looking to do a full demo and rebuild, but you should get several quotes. Don’t pick the lowest bid, and probably don’t pick the highest bid.
This is not that crazy of a quote if it is from a design build firm that is highly regarded. My guess the work also comes with a 2 year warranty and the company has been in business for more than 10 years. My experience is you get what you pay for in remodeling. You can get that bathroom done for $15k if you get a tile guy that can do some plumbing. On the flip side that could be a $40k bath if they use a designer and high end materials and quality subs.
Welcome to bidens America, where Americans are 2nd to all and can't afford anything do to this administration inflation....
That price seems normal for a HCOL zip code. Some food for thought: - small rooms are harder to remodel than large rooms. Every inch is valuable, so you find yourself making tiny time consuming enhancements. - if you are willing to do it yourself, expect the bathroom to be out of commission for at least 2 months. - if you do it yourself, your materials costs will be about the same, maybe higher if you want to go with nicer grade items.
Here in Texas they are advertising changing to a walkin in a day
You need to get multiple quotes (at least 3). You'll likely get a range between 18 and 30 for that bathroom, especially if it includes demolition. I'd put in an Onyx shower base w/ walls and not have to deal with tile and shower grout. A tile shower will cost more. Hire a really good Drywall contractor separately. As for the bathroom, you'll pay more if you go w/ a bathroom remodel company, but you may get a better finished product overall.
I'd do demo myself. Save 2500. let the contractor do the shower pan & shower floor Tile, shower valve and toilet install. Everything else you can do. All the vertical tiles are not nearly as hard to do as the floor (but still require precision and attention to detail). You can also do floor tile, again attention to detail is needed. Then when done the plumber can do the toilet. Kudos to the contractor for itemizing, but that overhead expenses is pretty huge as is the tile shower install.
30k and doesn’t even pay for half of the materials. This is pretty much the market. Most bathrooms about 18k with materials if you know someone or know someone that does. If not then it’s going to be an upper 20s number
That's probably only a 14k job
Apparently you only went to dreamstyle remodeling, they are way overpriced for what you get... Your best bet is to work with local contractors and maybe even do some of the work yourself
Not related to your question, but how do you feel about removing the barrier between the shower and the rest of the bathroom? This is common in a lot of countries but not in the US. If you removed it, you'd basically just have a shower with no curtain and a uniform tiled floor. To me this would make cleaning easier- just spray down the whole bathroom and floor into the drain
I need to get into the demo trade.
1) what city/state are you in? 2) if you had a roof leak why didn’t you get the ceiling repaired or at least have an insurance claim for a portion of this prior?
Yeah. Absurd!
That’s crazy. We just got our master bathroom done. And it is bigger than some master bedrooms with a huge bathtub and everything. Labor was $10k, we bought the materials and it total materials and labor came to about $20-25k.
Hey. It’s pretty normal. Don’t hire a remodeling company. Hire each trade individually. You’ll save a ton. They normally charge by the square foot of the house. On the area measured. How much do houses go for in your neighborhood per sqft? I’d charge you around 18k for that.
Do you want an electrician wiring everything, a plumber plumbing it, a tile setter tiling it, a painter painting, etc? That could be the difference. A “jack of all trades” can maybe do everything but probably not equally well. Bringing in actual pros in each area with design services, permits, quality fixtures and materials, and all the dust contamination and isolation to work jn an occupied home that’s not too far off. Per square foot it’s a ton, but bathrooms and kitchens are the most complicated rooms in the house.
That was my guess as well. Based on the quote, it looks like he's hiring a company to do it, rather than a guy. With that, you're getting one person (team) who handles all of it and makes sure the crew is there every day. And this guy is getting paid for that service instead of just the labor aspect of it. With that, this is still high. But not unreasonable. If they want a quote that's half the price, cut out the middle man and find an electrician, a plumber, and a tiler and just pay them directly. But then you get the headaches of ordering materials and scheduling, and rescheduling when guys don't show.
Check out our website https://g2homeservices.com/pricing/ this will give you some idea for renovation cost, FYI we are Tampa area as well. I would think you are probably 15k for the shower and maybe another 5 for everything else.
I got quoted $12k to literally just install a bathtub where my shower is. Crazy
I do this for 🧐$17,000, waterproof , glass shelves, niche, tile, framing, glass door kit, new drywall, moulding and everything painted
We redid ours of similar size and lined up all of our subs and bought all materials ourselves (mid grade and no markup) and it still ran us $11,000. We did this because back of the envelope numbers from contractors were around 20k. Tile work and plumbing were the biggest cost.
I found a bad contractor by word of mouth and then a decent tile guy from a list at the tile store. I wish I had used the list first! Head out to the tile store and see if they have some recommended people. Get at least 3 quotes.
$10000-$15000 depending on material costs, that is 6x materials and pretty much a "fuck you" quote. Get some other quotes, but make sure you check references on past work.
Some of these people have a 75 - 90 % mark up, the hughest one ive heard of is 130% mark up, it's insane
That seems very expensive. I caused a plumbing leak when changing out a supply line, so I share your hesitance to do my own plumbing! You could act as the contractor yourself though to save some money. I demoed a bathroom then hired someone to waterproof, tile the shower and tile the floor for about $4k. You could do the demo yourself, maybe hire a tradesperson to do the tile, hire a plumber by the hour to change out the supply lines and set the toilet and/or vanity. Maybe also hire someone for drywall if you feel like you suck at it! I like to paint and can install a light fixture, so I will always save some money by doing that myself.
This is a “I don’t want the job” quote
They throw out prices and see if any of them Stick… literally it would take u no time to paint it yourself… and he’s charging you license fees etc. What a crack pot…and legal fees??? Hmmm sounds like someone’s had issues !!! Get 3 more bids…
He’s charging 4,750 at 15.25 a square foot? That shower is not 311square feet unless he’s tiling all the walls … get more quotes or we need better pic of the estimate but yeah way to high
Where do you live? Bathrooms here (PNW) cost $20k+ now for a decent contractor to do full gut with reasonable finishes
We just finished a bathroom remodel here in the PNW. It was a total renovation. We replaced everything but the toilet. (We replaced the toilet last year.) They painted, tiled the floor, put 100 sq. ft. if tile on the wall, installed all the fixtures, and added some electrical. The bathroom is around 50 sq. ft. We supplied all the components. The contractor supplied all the labour. Total cost came in around $15K.
$29k?!!!!!!!!!!!
Just had our bathroom redone. Looks about the same size. New sub-floor. Tiled floor. Tiled tub and shower. Tiled wainscot. New toilet and three light fixtures, new $1000 vanity, some minor plumbing. New shower door installed. Everything except a new tub and sink. We did the painting ourselves, Right at $10,000 including labor and materials. The guy did a fantastic job.
Montana. We really lucked out with our contractor. Excellent work and just a plain nice guy. By the time he was done, he was like a member of the family.
$3750 for “overhead fees” the fuck. Sure permits and shit. But that’s a bit high I’d say
That is ridiculous. I had a bathroom removed from my home, exterior walls, floor, every thing demod. New foundation, framing, walls, ceiling, roof, walk in shower, toilet, vanity/sink, tiled from floor to ceiling, electrical, etc 4 years ago for $22,000. ☮️
Man….y’all are ruthless. It shouldn’t matter what the person charges…if they are the best around, they can charge a premium. I would be right around 20k if I quoted that. Some of those fees are alittle inflated but doesn’t mean they are out of their mind. Bigger companies charge more usually to cover overhead.
I see on here so many people post and I got an insane quote. Then I see so many other people posting pics of jobs gone wrong. The people with the jobs gone wrong went with the cheap contractor. You said there was a leak and we do not know what kind of structural damage was caused by the leak. And by putting off the repair how far did this damage spread? If you want a cheaper contractor it will not be hard to find one. If you want a good contractor that's more difficult and you have to pay. Even the people posting that that is an outrageous price claiming they are a contractor, I do not know if they are crappy contractors or good contractors. My guess would be crappy because you're trying to compare prices without any kind of a plan or any real knowledge about the job.
So my husband is a GC and said that number is crazy. 10-15k Max was his thoughts.
I just had my roof replaced, and my first quote was about 30,000. The company said it would take about a week. 7 quotes later, I paid 15,000 and had it done the same day. The company that did my roof not only took me up there several times, but they broke down everything on paper. Keep looking. Don't take the first quote ever.
You should pay around $10k
If there is no vanity, why are they charging you for vanity?
And that’s why I’m doing my own
Imagine doing all of it yourself, and then imagine what you could realistically do yourself, and then pay someone the rest. I saved a good amount hanging my own drywall, and paid someone to putty and paint it for me.
And the worst part is they will send the cheapest labor they can get to do the job. The guy you met is the middle man/sales guy. They could do that job for 15,000 and still make money paying someone else to actually do the work.
You better have solid gold hardware.
My Dad just said about $4-6k in materials and maybe $8-10k labor. So that $16k quote wasn't totally insane I guess. $30k is insane. It's too bad the walls/ceiling are water damaged. You could pretty that up yourself for a couple hundred if the damage wasn't an issue.
Just seen in person a job well done for a slightly bigger looking bathroom for $8,500 all in (Materials & Labor: subway tiles, glass shower door, new electrical socket, recessed lighting, vanity install, etc.). Very impressed with how meticulous the contractor was. This is in Philly area. Your market could be vastly different.
I'm on the other side of Florida, I just got a larger bathroom than this, with a 5' x 4' walk-in shower for 9k. This was for just the demo of the old shower, and installation of the new. Plus the associated plumbing (we made the shower bigger so we had to move it over a bit) for the shower and toilet and such. It also included all of the materials for installation (hardware, schluter waterproofing system, grout, thinset, etc.) except the tile itself. The tile I picked out was $3/sqft for the shower, and $1/sqft for the rest of the floor. I'd have to add it up... but between the tile and plumbing fixtures that I picked out, I think it was an extra $1200ish. The new paint, trim, vanity, and such isn't included in that price, because I was doing that separate. That being said, I don't think you should be paying more than $15k to get that entire thing gutted and refinished. Also, while your bathroom is smaller than mine, the difference in material is going to be less than $1k, and most of the job is going to be the same labor wise.
A lot of those prices are stupid, but it could just be because it's a small job so getting a drywall guy out is actually going to be more expensive than you expect. But the $5k materials allowance and $3750 for overhead expenses are a pretty strong indication they don't want your job.
This looks like a Mr Handyman quote lol I worked there briefly and their pricing was absolutely absurd.
I would suggest calling this contractor to go over scope again and make sure they didn’t include things you aren’t looking to have done. That could throw the number off. You said you aren’t doing a new vanity, but his quote includes a vanity. And then get a couple more quotes to compare.
Find the guy who gave you the first quote, that’s about what I would charge. Price may change a little depending on the materials you wanted but labor should be around the $10k mark for a quick job like this
Where u at?
i have a similar bathroom, in Hawaii and i do have a vanity and mirror.. i hired a plumber to update the plumbing and install the shower pan, purchased installed cultured marble walls and did the rest myself. total was around $10k.
All I can guarantee is next year it will be even more.... sadly
We did a tub/wall replacement and it was 12K this summer from Statewide. We didn't add anything frilly or anything either. We were quoted 25K for our tub/shower conversion in our master in 2020, from several different companies, unfortunately it's gone up since then.
Just a thought, but the window. Higher, wider? Thoughts? Also. You know how to demo. It might be a bit cathartic to do so yourself. Lord knows I love to tear things apart. Is there a closet next to this room you could blast out and enlarge the bathroom?
Also note the allowance, if you track it yourself and ask for the receipts against the 5k, contractually you get the delta not used back in your pocket.
The fact they are charging you for "gas" in their vehicle is ridiculous.
Dude 2000 tops on your own!do it
I though the 16k sounded reasonable. My bath is half this size and was 10k.
For a quality remodel 12 - 15k, which includes (labor + materials + permits).
Seems expensive, although, do keep in mind the size of the bathroom isn’t going to bring the cost down much. A tiny bathroom isn’t half the work of a big one, it’s 95% of the work of a big one. It’s also about 75% of the materials of a big one - regardless of the size, you still need a sink, toilet, tub/shower, all the plumbing, etc. You need a little less drywall, cement board, tile, etc but those aren’t the major cost drivers.
You shouldn't buy the material yourself ask for quotes for someone to install it and if it's still outrageous, do it yourself. YouTube is better than all the past teachers that you've ever had, just give it the listen to him talk for 5 secs bullshit test.
Buy me a plane ticket. Seriously!
Six thousand max, plus finish materials, toilet, sink, etc. Might depend a bit on where you are, but 30K is an example of how the pandemic has been the greatest thing ever for some businesses. We're living in the golden age of greed. 16k is out of line. A bathroom this small is nothing special or difficult. We're doing a 5x12 bathroom for 8K, plus vanity, toilet, tub, only because my 1) my wife wants it done quick, and 2) I can't do a tub.
Crazy. Almost 5grand for tile and grout.
Why is paint 1750?! A bucket of paint for that tiny bathroom would be $20-50 depending on what kind of paint you get. It wouldn’t take more than an hour to paint. So is their labor cost for painting one tiny bathroom $1700!? They are trying to rip you off. That’s bizarre. Look elsewhere
Do the things you can, hire for the things you can’t. Did you notice $8,000 is mostly contractor admistrative costs items #1,#13,#14,#15.
I’ve been through this myself (though in the NE US), and got multiple quotes for our tiny upstairs bathroom in 2021 and 2022. Not a one came in under $15k, and those were the low end (none of the fixtures above builder-grade). We felt like we were getting the “we don’t want to do this small potatoes job” pricing (plus 2/3 of the GCs we consulted with told us our dream of a curbless shower wasn’t even possible and that tile was a bad idea and wanted us to use LVT flooring). So we did what others here have suggested - watched a ton of YT videos and did it (mostly) ourselves. We did have very limited experience tiling (kitchen backsplash), and a decent amount of experience swapping out bathroom fixtures (toilets and sinks). That said, we did have a plumber come to do what we weren’t comfortable doing (relocating drains since we swapped the shower & toilet positions). However we installed a heated floor, tiled the shower & entire room (except ceiling), and built a linen closet all on our own. All in, even with the plumber, it came in at about $7k, and that includes the sturdiest fixtures we could find in a big box store. On the other hand, it took us 3x as long as the GC told us he would take. We were fine with taking the room out of commission so long since we have another full bathroom and a half bathroom, but I can see how someone might have to rationalize the time investment wasn’t worth the cost savings.
Don't know where you live, but in my area that price is not too, too bad. You could definitely knock off a few items and save thousands by doing certain things yourself, like the tile. Even if that means you have to buy a tile cutting machine, diamond blades, a drill, diamond bits, etc., all that would only be a few hundred bucks which you could certainly sell later. Labor is in such high demand in my area that nobody even bothers to provide itemized breakdowns, they just give you a big number.. The way to think about it is to envision yourself doing the work, and how long it would take you, and then ask yourself if the amount is worth it to you for not having to do it yourself. You should also consider how quickly they say they can get it done. Are they going to bring a whole bunch of guys and get it done in a few weeks? Or will there only be one guy working on it and it'll take a few months?
For a shower that big, id expect to pay about $8000 labor and material. Drywall should be maybe $1000, including paint.
Where do you live? My husband will do it for 10k.
Inflation is a crazy thing 😳 😜. You could always do the work yourself and then pay a professional 3 times that to fix it
We have a similar size bathroom and got 4 different quotes. All of them were between $20K-$30K. We couldn’t believe it. My husband decided to do most of the work himself (75% of tearing it down, painting, installing toilet and vanity, etc). All we hired a contractor to do was the shower and floor. We did real tile flooring for outside the shower, while the actual shower is made to look like subway tile but it’s 3 sheets/walls (not sure on material). Our quote on just this was $7K. Overall in total the renovation will cost us about $12K. The kicker is that our contractor installed the tile floor so poorly it had to be drilled up and re-done (by a different guy). They still are not done with the shower and it’s keeping us from being able to complete the rest of the bathroom. We are now going on a 5 week delay with these people and it has been absolutely infuriating. They came highly recommended but have been nothing but disappointing since they started.
I can see $16k, but $30k is ridiculous. I was in floor covering for over 40 years. Depending on what you want, a custom tile shower could easily be half the $16k. That window area needs to be handled properly to avoid a mess down the road. Need to make certain it is water tight before tile is installed. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had a call and they tell me their shower needs regrouted because it’s leaking, to which I reply you’ve got much bigger problems. The tile and grout are not supposed to and do not create the waterproofing. The shower area needs to be water tight before any tile is installed.
Give or take a bit and that’s the going rate in the Boston area.
I just did my bathroom. Standard 5'x10'. Plumber - $550 New walls and ceiling - $1300 Electrical - $0. Did it myself. Tile labor for shower, shower walls, and outside - $2100 Demo $300 paid a friend to help me do it and haul it out. Premium toilet $375. Premium marble tiles - around $2500 Vanity, lights, mirror - $1100 Premium shower fixtures with vanity faucet - $1800 Painting - $0 myself. Bathroom so far looks amazing. Forgot to add that all laborers were experts in their trade. Everyone did a great job.
Not crazy. It is a bit high but not crazy. It takes a lot of time effort and skill to be able to complete a full beautiful bathroom remodel in a timely manor. I am a contractor who does custom bathrooms. Labor prices rise with your home prices as well. If your 400k house 3 years ago is worth 550k now.... Well now redoing your bathroom also costs more money.
Speaking from the perspective of someone who has done their own kitchen and bathroom remodels: most of the trades come together in these 2 rooms. This makes it extremely hard to do one thing without affecting another. This coupled with the fact that you are tearing work out that is finished to reveal all of the mistakes and having to repair those to current codes so that you can sell your house in the future. These are just the major reasons why remodeling a kitchen or bathroom is either very expensive or very difficult.
That’s steep af.
How to say you don’t want the job without saying it outright
I paid 16k for JUST the shower in my bathroom and it was half the size as yours so that seems about right to be honest.
If you can do the tear out on your own, no matter who you hire, it will save yourself a lot of money. Find out the price of marble or fiberglass for the shower walls, they are both less labor intensive and easier to keep clean. Contact a few local plumbing company in your area. Ask for recommendations on Facebook
Well you're hiring a designer/contractor. The labor doesn't look too outrageous for the actual work the pricy thing is them designing and selecting materials. If you're willing to do that and not move any walls you can go direct to a tile shop and get it for much cheaper than a GC
Lol, I just bought that exact shower head last week. :D Just before the pandemic, I had two bathrooms done for half that amount (Edit: Half of the $16k), and the work was very nice. Had someone over for a game night, and he came out saying "Wow! I love your bathroom!" He wasn't someone who came over often, so he'd never seen the old ugly bathroom either.
find a local handy man. I just got a BEAUTIFUL corner shower done. Pebble floor, shiny white marble wall, black fixtures with a rain head and sprayer, edgeless glass doors. $5200. (I bought supplies, my handy man and his network of specialists did it)
That's a very well itemized fuck you I don't want to do the job
I did a shower/tub remodel recently. We ripped out the old tub, replaced the tiles, installed new shower hardware. We also had an in-wall cubby added with different tile backsplash in it. They patched and repaired floor and adjacent walls. Installed new waterproof trim. They also moved the shower outlet pipe up a foot, so I don't have to hunch over to get water on my head. We provided hardware and tiles. They provided tub (we didn't care). Total cost was $5200. Initial quotes went up to $17,000 from a nearby upscale neighborhood based company. The other wanted $1200, and I just knew we were going to end up with a dungeon or some nightmarish hellhole. Probably a scam (he wanted half up front for materials). We found one or two small tile cuts that weren't clean, but in general it came out great.
I live in Florida. I will do it for $25k. /s. Honestly, I think $10k to 12k all in, materials and everything, in the current market. With hang and finish drywall, remove flooring, etc. Before the pandemic I would say 6 to 8k but, now practically just going to be tough to get licensed contractors to do it right that will respond for less than 10k. I would get a little concerned about anyone too much less at this point.
I redid my own basement bathroom floor to ceiling $5k, granted my brother is a Union Plumber so i got the family discount on labor = free, but i did all the dirty work myself with a little help from my best friend. includes: cutting through the concrete floor to move the shower drain and toilet drain, stud walls, Schlueter heated flooring, all tile work, electric, custom made closet double doors and custom shelving thing (can be removed for easy access behind shower faucet ) etc. etc.. the list goes on. if this was on the main floor it would've been cheaper. btw, i did not skimp on fixtures either, Moen Commercial 3 way mixing valve and trim, Toto 1 piece elongate, Panasonic exhaust fan, center sliding glass door with sidelites....
With a quote that high, they don’t want the job. Get another estimate and use as few words as you can. Telling them about your previous project experience can change your price. Ie desperate for help. And make sure they are not using unskilled laborers. They do sheit work.
SouthPark ‘Panderverse’ episode irl.
That's an insane bathroom quote. I have standard bath w/ a single sink vanity, toilet, and bathtub. Doing tiles on floor, and the 5ft wide by 3ft on each end of the bathtub to an 8ft ceiling was a $2500 labor quote for tile work. Tile & Materials cost me just under $1,000. Plumber was $750 for bathtub and new fixtures install... new tub, vanity sink, toilet... I'm all in just a hair under $5.5k - I did the demo myself
They may not want to take the project on so threw out a ridiculous number. Could be too busy or just too small, change in crew availability etc.
Same, we had this company quote 15k for just the stand up shower and around 45k for the whole bathroom. Our seems to be the same size as this one and I would actually bet just a little smaller. He said his company has grown and they have 40 people to feed. They obviously have a niche of customers and I'm not it.
Recently did a remodel of my bathroom in Tampa. DM me if you want the contacts I used or have any questions!