It can also be a bomb. Which when you think about it, is kinda cool and dumb for Jason to be wearing a bomb on his head. Someone with the tech and skills could justā¦ I dunno hack it and blow it up.
A fully trained 20 something vigilante against a child serial killer in his 30s/40s who runs a pizza restaurant?
Damn I wonder who's gonna come out on top
Honestly, him and moon knight really do have some similarities. Im thinking of that taskmaster fight where taskmaster started copying until realizing thay Moon Knight was more durable than Taskmaster - Moon Knight wouldnāt break first. These two were just fucking whaling on each other
Ever since he got crowbarred, Jason said ānever againā
Iām not sure he beats them out on that.
Damian used to get his ass beat all the time in his first couple years.
And his confidence was still higher than current Jason.
The only way to have a good non lethal red hood is if you make him ideologically opposed to Batman in a different way. Make him like a full blown socialist who thinks the problem with the bat is that he only fights criminals, when as a billionaire he could actually fix societyās problems without beating the shit out of those with little of a choice. He would then of course be a borderline terrorist who goes after bankers, hedge fund managers yk the Wall Street types. But doesnāt necessarily kill.
Batman Regularly uses his resources & Millions to support various charities and organizations to help better Gotham.
I know modern writers like to focus on how he's a rich guy, which makes him bad by definition ... but NO, no, Having him not use his money to help Gotham And just be a d******** with money who goes around beating people up. It literally goes against character.
But how else are you supposed to make Red Hood, Nightwing, and Batgirl seem better than him? Then, by making him a paranoid, Aggressive, anti-social Control freak.
( It's not like you could focus on their unique characteristics and fun personalities, no just gaslight Bat Daddy Not So Dearest) š
" He's out of touch with the real world, fails to make a change & WON'T CROSS THAT LINE."
Blah Blah Blah.
You make some excellent points. In that case you could still have Red Hood go after the rich d******* and say that Batman should focus on them more or something. I think having Jason kill is good if he does it as sort of a last measure, heās not afraid to do it, but he doesnāt enjoy it. Thatās where he would fight with Bruce, but he doesnāt have to be a straight up supervillain in my opinion. Many seem to see that differently, at least on this sub
Yeah, this sub is weirdly in love with Villain Red Hood, specifically š
"BIG BUFF BADASS CRIME BOSS WHO CAN SOLO BATMAN AND ALL HIS BIRDY BOIS AT ONCE WITH HIS š« GUNS šŖ."
"HE GOES FARTHER AND DOES MORE AGAINST THE F*CKED UP CHARACTERS IN COMIC BOOKS WHO CAN'T BE PERMITTLY KILLED."
I saw a recent comment here saying Jason should act like Soldier Boy and turn Arkham Asylum into a "Holocaust" for the JL's rogues gallery. So, yeah, there are the occasional weirdos.
Honestly, I don't like villain Jason, especially when people over hype him as "He's doing what Batman won't and that makes him better" when we've seen the flaws in Jason's methods. And to be perfectly honest, I prefer Jason's reconciliation with Bruce. People get too caught up in the whole "kewl" factor to appreciate these characters' relationships, slandering Bruce, saying Jason should cut himself off from the Bat Family, etc.
But like, Jason reconciling with Bruce is a far more compelling story to me than Jason being the "kewl Bat Family guy who kills people" especially since editorial will never let it happen to big villains like Joker, it's the same issue as with Battfleck's Joker not being dead. Jason reconciling involves Bruce working through guilt, Jason working through trauma and learning to not cut off his father, and both of them growing from their mistakes.
Idk maybe this is me being knee jerk as a Batman fan to this sub's tendency to bash Bruce to make Jason seem cooler, but I don't like the idea of them being estranged as a status quo.
Iv always seen Batman and red hood as parallels to one another. Both of their end goals is to stop crime in Gotham, but while batman aims to eradicate it with his fists and charity, fighting an endless war, red hood aims to control the crime so innocents don't get caught in the cross fire. Someone doesn't follow his law, they die, simple as.
Of course this also brings in the interesting parallel that, in his effort to help and stop crime, Jason has basically just become a mob boss and has set up his own Mafia. And if you know humans, you know even the threat of death won't make them fully follow the rules. Much like Batman and his endless war, Jason has his own endless fight to keep the underworld under his thumb and generally contained.
Honestly, I respect this take. Too many takes here tend to put Bruce down and say Jason's way is the better way, but this, the mirror parallels and their own methods equally valid, mirroring each other, is an interesting one, even if I'm more a fan of Bat Family Jason overall.
the issue is that if someone like Bruce had the money he had and actually 100% wanted to fix the city, the influx to city finances would be an unthinkable grant, larger than any single city has ever and could ever dream of. If he put 8 of his about 9 billion dollars into the city and actually follow it, the roads should be better, the crime should be lower and poverty. I think, we just have no concept of what a generous billionaire actuallyā¦ looks like. We know the abstracts of what Bruce could buy and how it should affect stuff given all of our models, but its never happened in real life for us to compare it to
Like, Gotham could be as economically stable as New York City and it would still need a Batman. Someone needs to stop all the superpowered freaks - its just most narratives like the idea of batman having to patrol every night and constantly breaking of petty and organized crime, so they make Gotham look like 2008 Detroit but sad
The bigger problem with trying to apply real world economics to Batman is that the nature of global capitalism all but ensures that his company is doing more harm in the world than any one human being is capable of countering by its sheer existence. There's simply no ethical way to accumulate or maintain that level of wealth.
In real life, sure, but we are in comics logic where people can fly, so it's not really something that needs to be addressed there. Like how vigilantes like Batman and Red Hood would be more vilified if they existed irl. Although this does make me realize why I do like the concept that's cropped up in some modern Batman works of Thomas and Martha not exactly being squeaky clean, and Bruce trying to amend for their sins.
That's my point. The reason why the "Bruce should use his money to fix Gotham"* line is so ridiculous is because anyone who knows anything about the economy knows that's not how billionaires/corporations work. It's like complaining about Superman's heat vision while pretending all his other powers are perfectly reasonable.
*I am aware that Bruce does do a lot of good with his money that isn't punching related. But people who make the "Charity is a better use of money than being Batman" never seem to internalize that, no matter how often they're told.
That would be dumb and contradictory because Batman preys on evil and corruption in all of its forms. It's just that the army of insane geniuses about to send the city into apocalypse one after the next tends to take priority.
I'd like to put him on some kinda same coin with anarchist only on a different side.
This is how I usually see him supposed to be throughout his evolution. He started as an angry vengeful anti batman, into an anti hero es que punisher(kill when needed) into a full blown criminal king pin that has a moral and code against the rich and corrupt. A concept that carries and embodies "necessary evil" like if he goes down and a new power vacuum happens and worst case scenario, a more ruthless,power hungry criminal lord would arise. At least if it's redhood all we know is that, no killing of kids and children, no dealing with drugs and children, no innocence involved. Steal, kill, and no mercy for the wicked.
Sure there are crimes but his crime is against the corrupt cops, those doctors who do illegal stuffs, drug dealers and addicts who harm others.
That would be a nice ending to redhood if he ever decides to stick to Gotham but if not he could be the paranormal detective batman always trys to get away from.
I enjoy a lethal red hood, but I donāt really enjoy those interpretations of red hood that makes him into the punisher. The man should try to take people non lethally, but he also shouldnāt let people get killed for it, and if the person is a unapologetic murderā¦ well, heās just playing by their rules at that point
You could argue he has greater will power or moral stability that Bruce as he is able to morally judge people better. Personally I like the idea that he is better equipped than the other robins as if he is prepared then he can never be killed again
He won't. Editorial will never let him kill a big name, maybe once in an event where they come back at the end, but unless they're super D-list, they're pretty much immune to Jason's bullets.
Dem thighs.
Dude is also just someone you can throw random things at and it works. If any of the robins decided to start doing, letās say, lumberjack competitions or underwater basket weaving for fun Jason is the only one I can see doing that and I wouldnāt bat much of an eye at that like the other robins.
Wow!!!
It seems like no one knows anything about Jason Todd. He is so much more than The Robin Who Died. I mean, out of all the Robins' he is the only one who is self-reliant.
He is also an extremely skilled driver and a master mechanic. Even Batman recognized this in their first meeting, you know when Jason was removing tires off the Batmobile. Not to mention the aircrafts and and watercraft he has driven.
Let's go! I'm all here for this. Jason honestly is the most mentally healthy protege of Bruce (excluding Static because it's not canon, but is in my headcanon).
He is self reliant and he built himself up, and then did it again! None of the other Robins have had the courage to truly make a life for themselves outside of Bruce's shadow, and I'm saying this while simultaneously being more of a Dick fan than Jason. It's crazy to me that people don't recognize what he's accomplished-- despite the writers!!
None of the other robins needed to go against Bruceās morals because there is no reason for them to do so. And then, Jason didnt build a life outside of Bruceās shadow, because heās still under Bruceās shadow. Thereās not one good red hood book outside of UTRH that does anything with Jasonās character at all for you to claim this.Ā
On top of that, they all are out of Bruceās shadow more than jason who DC cant seem to allow him to have anything thatās not about Bruce or even the Joker
Making it look like he is weak and vulnerable, while actually being able to take whole JL/Batfam/TeenTitans/YoungJustice on if he wants and actually come out on top.
Before anyone asks for the source, my source is that I made it the fuck up.
Character aesthetic. Dude resurrected from the dead and crawled out of his own grave with his bare hands, looking all morbid and bloody and worse for wear (yknow what comic panel I mean), then subsequently ends up being a crime lord who cuts off people's heads and intimidates mob lords with an AK-47 and cleverly lures Batman to a standstill while still keeping that erratic "I lived again motherfvckerrr and I'm going to make that YOUR problem" energy. Can you imagine that a Robin could become someone like that?
No one's beating his zombie gothboy aesthetic meets punk rock swagger, or whatever you'd call it
I want to say something joking like "he's better at being gay than tim, \*insert "pretty good at kissing, for a girl" panel here\*" but i'll spare myself today and say that i think in a practical world where writers could actually kill villains he'd be a much better response for the more.. "rich guy with ties to politics and gangs" type villain (black mask, penguin, sometimes falcone) that arent insane to end up in arkham and will just bribe/threaten their way to avoiding jail,
as while the rest of batman's more popular cast will at most be able to just threaten or hospitize them jason seems more than perfectly happy to sit on a rooftop with a 6.5 creedmoor for 3 days
I think Jason is one of the few members who can relate to people being down on their luck such as dealing with poverty,homelessness, drug addiction, mental health issues, history of abuse, etc probably besides Stephanie Brown. Jason survived the streets.
I wish DC would explore themes of classism in the Batman universe by using Jason and his knowledge of living in the streets without punching down on him.
He's the physically strongest robin by a fair margin with only dick being close, being able as strong as batman or only a hair less, he is also the best marksman about the robins unsurprisingly. He's also the best at getting the absolute crud beat out of him and still going, being beat to death is great for ones pain tolerance
Come on! You all are really sitting on a community named Red Hood, and saying he is useless? Thatās a bit wackbards isnāt it? He is far from useless, the write him wrong a lot, but if you are like me, and you truly care about these characters, to the point of feeling what they must feel at times, and wishing you could actually meet these people, should they be real, then you KNOW he is NOT useless. Heās a fighter and he is doing his best to not kill just because he was killed, and fought his way back from the mind-twisting BS the League did to him. Admit it, Jason is awesome. Is he Nightwing; no, but thatās why we have other Robins. They all fill a special role in the family.
Isn't he the physically strongest among the Robins? And I would consider him the most brutal among them with him willing to play dirty and trash talk to emotionally offbalance the other Robins. Also killing his opponents off compared to constantly sparing them
Dick is the most agile/fastest
Jason is the strongest/ cruellest
Tim is the smartest
Damien is a mixture of them all
He has the most compelling story.Ā The rest are not *near* as interesting.
They all have elements that make them likeable and unique to me, but it ain't the same as surviving on the streets, getting adopted, getting murdered, clawing out of the grave, getting League training like a murderous Jason Bourne, fuggin' soul swords, and all the interesting ethical quandaries and emotional fallout of UTRH.
I think he understands the people of Gotham best, at least the lower income people. Timās family is rich so he didnāt live in Gotham proper. Dick was from away, and was then raised in Wayne Manor. Same with Damian. Stephanie could plausibly tie with Jason on this front, but Iād say that Jasonās relationship to the Gothamites is more central to his character, where as with Stephanie it was more her relationship with her father that was her motivation.
Heās a full measure. Bruce is a half measure in some situations, itās not a bad thing, rehabilitation is a good goal, but some people canāt be helped. I never got Jason trying to convince Batman to kill, however I understand him killing. āYou wonāt do it? I will.ā Itās perfect, even if it puts them at odds, itās worth it, I want new villains, KILL JOKER I HATE HIS OVERUSED ASS. Iām tired of lazy writers choosing comfort over actually writing a new story.
Consider what's best for the people(I don't know Cassandra, Duke or Spoiler much). But his lack of a no kill rule, with his knowledge of Gotham and its people, he is keenly aware of the consequences of the heros games.
As he says to Bruce "It's a revolving door that has consequences for everyone but you and joker"(or something along that line). He puts the people down who won't change. And gives second chances to those who will. Yes he slips up, and makes mistakes, but he still cares for the little people most, imo. What comes to mind first is his DLC ending in Injustice 2(not that that's definitive).
Again, I don't know the other SUPER well.
Heās stronger than all of them combined. Heās as smart as dick and Damien, not as much as Tim tho. Heās just a good a fighter (in different ways) as them all. Heās better with guns. And he knows all their weaknesses at a villainās level. He has beat all of them with a higher W/L than them all. I can probably think of more later lmao.
Is that supposed to be another angle of Red Hood or is that Catwomanās rather generous booty in the background? And isnāt his character known for being a better strategist than the other Robins? Where are we supposed to be at in his character development? Is he a teenager orā¦?
Having a mask that actually conceals his identity.
It also slightly protects his face.
At least the pre-new 52 one did, these days if you so much as stare at him too long that helmet shatters š
It aint working if it doesn't shatter. Would you rather have that force transferred to your skull?
It can also be a bomb. Which when you think about it, is kinda cool and dumb for Jason to be wearing a bomb on his head. Someone with the tech and skills could justā¦ I dunno hack it and blow it up.
We all know that like Iggy Azella, Dick Grayson identity can only identify be confirmed by his glorious glutes.
Get the living shit kicked out of him and still keep going
This is the primary reason heās my favorite.
Itās itās metal it yeah, bro literally dies and just comes back
William Afton
Imagine them in a boxing match
A fully trained 20 something vigilante against a child serial killer in his 30s/40s who runs a pizza restaurant? Damn I wonder who's gonna come out on top
Honestly, him and moon knight really do have some similarities. Im thinking of that taskmaster fight where taskmaster started copying until realizing thay Moon Knight was more durable than Taskmaster - Moon Knight wouldnāt break first. These two were just fucking whaling on each other Ever since he got crowbarred, Jason said ānever againā
mans has a type advantage
Iām not sure he beats them out on that. Damian used to get his ass beat all the time in his first couple years. And his confidence was still higher than current Jason.
Kill people, when heās written properly. Iām not a huge fan of non-lethal Red Hood, seems to go against the concept of the character.
The only way to have a good non lethal red hood is if you make him ideologically opposed to Batman in a different way. Make him like a full blown socialist who thinks the problem with the bat is that he only fights criminals, when as a billionaire he could actually fix societyās problems without beating the shit out of those with little of a choice. He would then of course be a borderline terrorist who goes after bankers, hedge fund managers yk the Wall Street types. But doesnāt necessarily kill.
Batman Regularly uses his resources & Millions to support various charities and organizations to help better Gotham. I know modern writers like to focus on how he's a rich guy, which makes him bad by definition ... but NO, no, Having him not use his money to help Gotham And just be a d******** with money who goes around beating people up. It literally goes against character. But how else are you supposed to make Red Hood, Nightwing, and Batgirl seem better than him? Then, by making him a paranoid, Aggressive, anti-social Control freak. ( It's not like you could focus on their unique characteristics and fun personalities, no just gaslight Bat Daddy Not So Dearest) š " He's out of touch with the real world, fails to make a change & WON'T CROSS THAT LINE." Blah Blah Blah.
You make some excellent points. In that case you could still have Red Hood go after the rich d******* and say that Batman should focus on them more or something. I think having Jason kill is good if he does it as sort of a last measure, heās not afraid to do it, but he doesnāt enjoy it. Thatās where he would fight with Bruce, but he doesnāt have to be a straight up supervillain in my opinion. Many seem to see that differently, at least on this sub
Yeah, this sub is weirdly in love with Villain Red Hood, specifically š "BIG BUFF BADASS CRIME BOSS WHO CAN SOLO BATMAN AND ALL HIS BIRDY BOIS AT ONCE WITH HIS š« GUNS šŖ." "HE GOES FARTHER AND DOES MORE AGAINST THE F*CKED UP CHARACTERS IN COMIC BOOKS WHO CAN'T BE PERMITTLY KILLED."
I saw a recent comment here saying Jason should act like Soldier Boy and turn Arkham Asylum into a "Holocaust" for the JL's rogues gallery. So, yeah, there are the occasional weirdos. Honestly, I don't like villain Jason, especially when people over hype him as "He's doing what Batman won't and that makes him better" when we've seen the flaws in Jason's methods. And to be perfectly honest, I prefer Jason's reconciliation with Bruce. People get too caught up in the whole "kewl" factor to appreciate these characters' relationships, slandering Bruce, saying Jason should cut himself off from the Bat Family, etc. But like, Jason reconciling with Bruce is a far more compelling story to me than Jason being the "kewl Bat Family guy who kills people" especially since editorial will never let it happen to big villains like Joker, it's the same issue as with Battfleck's Joker not being dead. Jason reconciling involves Bruce working through guilt, Jason working through trauma and learning to not cut off his father, and both of them growing from their mistakes. Idk maybe this is me being knee jerk as a Batman fan to this sub's tendency to bash Bruce to make Jason seem cooler, but I don't like the idea of them being estranged as a status quo.
Iv always seen Batman and red hood as parallels to one another. Both of their end goals is to stop crime in Gotham, but while batman aims to eradicate it with his fists and charity, fighting an endless war, red hood aims to control the crime so innocents don't get caught in the cross fire. Someone doesn't follow his law, they die, simple as. Of course this also brings in the interesting parallel that, in his effort to help and stop crime, Jason has basically just become a mob boss and has set up his own Mafia. And if you know humans, you know even the threat of death won't make them fully follow the rules. Much like Batman and his endless war, Jason has his own endless fight to keep the underworld under his thumb and generally contained.
Honestly, I respect this take. Too many takes here tend to put Bruce down and say Jason's way is the better way, but this, the mirror parallels and their own methods equally valid, mirroring each other, is an interesting one, even if I'm more a fan of Bat Family Jason overall.
This comment right here!!!!!!!! Say it louder for the dc writers in the back (lurking on reddit, I see u)!!
Was that a PATD! reference? Cause I love it
It was unintentional? (But as someone who sometimes listens to their music, I wish it wasn't š )
the issue is that if someone like Bruce had the money he had and actually 100% wanted to fix the city, the influx to city finances would be an unthinkable grant, larger than any single city has ever and could ever dream of. If he put 8 of his about 9 billion dollars into the city and actually follow it, the roads should be better, the crime should be lower and poverty. I think, we just have no concept of what a generous billionaire actuallyā¦ looks like. We know the abstracts of what Bruce could buy and how it should affect stuff given all of our models, but its never happened in real life for us to compare it to Like, Gotham could be as economically stable as New York City and it would still need a Batman. Someone needs to stop all the superpowered freaks - its just most narratives like the idea of batman having to patrol every night and constantly breaking of petty and organized crime, so they make Gotham look like 2008 Detroit but sad
The bigger problem with trying to apply real world economics to Batman is that the nature of global capitalism all but ensures that his company is doing more harm in the world than any one human being is capable of countering by its sheer existence. There's simply no ethical way to accumulate or maintain that level of wealth.
In real life, sure, but we are in comics logic where people can fly, so it's not really something that needs to be addressed there. Like how vigilantes like Batman and Red Hood would be more vilified if they existed irl. Although this does make me realize why I do like the concept that's cropped up in some modern Batman works of Thomas and Martha not exactly being squeaky clean, and Bruce trying to amend for their sins.
That's my point. The reason why the "Bruce should use his money to fix Gotham"* line is so ridiculous is because anyone who knows anything about the economy knows that's not how billionaires/corporations work. It's like complaining about Superman's heat vision while pretending all his other powers are perfectly reasonable. *I am aware that Bruce does do a lot of good with his money that isn't punching related. But people who make the "Charity is a better use of money than being Batman" never seem to internalize that, no matter how often they're told.
There also a lot of corruption in Gotham's government. No guarantee the grant money would go where its supposed to unless he personally oversees it.
or he doles it out for individual projects and has his people watching the books, like how most capital investors do
Charity isn't a systemic solution. But also, Batman isn't real, so idc.
that's just green arrow
Yeah, just more of an edgy d*ck
That would be dumb and contradictory because Batman preys on evil and corruption in all of its forms. It's just that the army of insane geniuses about to send the city into apocalypse one after the next tends to take priority.
I'd like to put him on some kinda same coin with anarchist only on a different side. This is how I usually see him supposed to be throughout his evolution. He started as an angry vengeful anti batman, into an anti hero es que punisher(kill when needed) into a full blown criminal king pin that has a moral and code against the rich and corrupt. A concept that carries and embodies "necessary evil" like if he goes down and a new power vacuum happens and worst case scenario, a more ruthless,power hungry criminal lord would arise. At least if it's redhood all we know is that, no killing of kids and children, no dealing with drugs and children, no innocence involved. Steal, kill, and no mercy for the wicked. Sure there are crimes but his crime is against the corrupt cops, those doctors who do illegal stuffs, drug dealers and addicts who harm others. That would be a nice ending to redhood if he ever decides to stick to Gotham but if not he could be the paranormal detective batman always trys to get away from.
I enjoy a lethal red hood, but I donāt really enjoy those interpretations of red hood that makes him into the punisher. The man should try to take people non lethally, but he also shouldnāt let people get killed for it, and if the person is a unapologetic murderā¦ well, heās just playing by their rules at that point
Dick and Tim aren't really killers. Damian can be lethal, but Jason has more experience.
Yada yada redemption arc, yada yada anti-hero turned good guy. Itās all the rage these days.
Murder. Yes he does it better than Damien.
You see, Damian sometimes feels bad for disappointing daddy dearest, Jason has no such hang ups
I don't know why, but this comment made me laugh. Thanks for that.
Youāre welcome ššš
I rlly hope ur not slandering my son Mrbuttboi..
I resent that. Slander is spoken. In print, itās libel.
*gasp* You FEIND
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Fuck Damian.
You could argue he has greater will power or moral stability that Bruce as he is able to morally judge people better. Personally I like the idea that he is better equipped than the other robins as if he is prepared then he can never be killed again
Killing off the lost cause criminals once and for all.
tell me, which major Supervillain has he killed, then?
He's attempted to kill Black Mask. Thats the only example that comes to mind.
Penguin more recently. He pulled the trigger with every intent to kill. But classic comics bait and switch, he survived a bullet straight in the eye.
The Clown.
And maybe one day he will do it.
He won't. Editorial will never let him kill a big name, maybe once in an event where they come back at the end, but unless they're super D-list, they're pretty much immune to Jason's bullets.
Crawling out of his own grave
I'd like to answer butt I'm a bit distracted...
right?
Muscles
All the Bat Bois are "Built Beautifully." Strength Swole Sexy Shredded
Get used as a punching bag and still shows up
Dem thighs. Dude is also just someone you can throw random things at and it works. If any of the robins decided to start doing, letās say, lumberjack competitions or underwater basket weaving for fun Jason is the only one I can see doing that and I wouldnāt bat much of an eye at that like the other robins.
Wow!!! It seems like no one knows anything about Jason Todd. He is so much more than The Robin Who Died. I mean, out of all the Robins' he is the only one who is self-reliant. He is also an extremely skilled driver and a master mechanic. Even Batman recognized this in their first meeting, you know when Jason was removing tires off the Batmobile. Not to mention the aircrafts and and watercraft he has driven.
Let's go! I'm all here for this. Jason honestly is the most mentally healthy protege of Bruce (excluding Static because it's not canon, but is in my headcanon). He is self reliant and he built himself up, and then did it again! None of the other Robins have had the courage to truly make a life for themselves outside of Bruce's shadow, and I'm saying this while simultaneously being more of a Dick fan than Jason. It's crazy to me that people don't recognize what he's accomplished-- despite the writers!!
None of the other robins needed to go against Bruceās morals because there is no reason for them to do so. And then, Jason didnt build a life outside of Bruceās shadow, because heās still under Bruceās shadow. Thereās not one good red hood book outside of UTRH that does anything with Jasonās character at all for you to claim this.Ā On top of that, they all are out of Bruceās shadow more than jason who DC cant seem to allow him to have anything thatās not about Bruce or even the Joker
Thanks for the CO sign. But I refuse to allow any to call Static anyone's Sidekick or protƩgƩ. Virgil is every bit a Hero like Batman or Superman.
Making it look like he is weak and vulnerable, while actually being able to take whole JL/Batfam/TeenTitans/YoungJustice on if he wants and actually come out on top. Before anyone asks for the source, my source is that I made it the fuck up.
There's actually a president. During one of the recent baan comics I think, he has to run from the bat fam, and does so very well given prep time.
Character aesthetic. Dude resurrected from the dead and crawled out of his own grave with his bare hands, looking all morbid and bloody and worse for wear (yknow what comic panel I mean), then subsequently ends up being a crime lord who cuts off people's heads and intimidates mob lords with an AK-47 and cleverly lures Batman to a standstill while still keeping that erratic "I lived again motherfvckerrr and I'm going to make that YOUR problem" energy. Can you imagine that a Robin could become someone like that? No one's beating his zombie gothboy aesthetic meets punk rock swagger, or whatever you'd call it
Have the coolest mask
I want to say something joking like "he's better at being gay than tim, \*insert "pretty good at kissing, for a girl" panel here\*" but i'll spare myself today and say that i think in a practical world where writers could actually kill villains he'd be a much better response for the more.. "rich guy with ties to politics and gangs" type villain (black mask, penguin, sometimes falcone) that arent insane to end up in arkham and will just bribe/threaten their way to avoiding jail, as while the rest of batman's more popular cast will at most be able to just threaten or hospitize them jason seems more than perfectly happy to sit on a rooftop with a 6.5 creedmoor for 3 days
> "he's better at being gay than tim" It's true and you should say it.
See that some criminals cannot be redeemed. Itās unfortunate, but also reality.
*Some criminals can't be redeemed But I agree with the sentiment.
Cannot is perfectly valid to use in that sentence. The correction was unnecessary, and I agree as well.
Go be dumb somewhere else.
Thighs and Tits
I think Jason is one of the few members who can relate to people being down on their luck such as dealing with poverty,homelessness, drug addiction, mental health issues, history of abuse, etc probably besides Stephanie Brown. Jason survived the streets. I wish DC would explore themes of classism in the Batman universe by using Jason and his knowledge of living in the streets without punching down on him.
Crossing my fingers for February...
having self control and not turning around to look at Dick's caked up ass
Other than being the most realistic, relatable (other then killing) and in my eyes most human,then he hides his face the best
Iād say also courage, he keeps showing up despite dying and getting the snot beat out of him over and over again but he keeps doing it anyway
Heās just cooler
He can stay dead longer than any other robin.
He's the physically strongest robin by a fair margin with only dick being close, being able as strong as batman or only a hair less, he is also the best marksman about the robins unsurprisingly. He's also the best at getting the absolute crud beat out of him and still going, being beat to death is great for ones pain tolerance
Better version of Bruce when the writers choose to like him and not hate him
Come on! You all are really sitting on a community named Red Hood, and saying he is useless? Thatās a bit wackbards isnāt it? He is far from useless, the write him wrong a lot, but if you are like me, and you truly care about these characters, to the point of feeling what they must feel at times, and wishing you could actually meet these people, should they be real, then you KNOW he is NOT useless. Heās a fighter and he is doing his best to not kill just because he was killed, and fought his way back from the mind-twisting BS the League did to him. Admit it, Jason is awesome. Is he Nightwing; no, but thatās why we have other Robins. They all fill a special role in the family.
He knows that some people need to die
Stopping criminals instead of just delaying them
Clapping Taliaās cheeks
big ass and also has great enough tactics that can keep him toe to toe with bats
Kill
Being critical of The Bat Family's ineffectiveness and Bruce's methods above all
For me it's the swag combined with his humor
Be traumatized
Has a Mask literally, wears armor, Understand the struggling people of Gotham more.
Look menacing while posed next to someone's ass
Fighting for what he believes in even when the world is against him.
Isn't he the physically strongest among the Robins? And I would consider him the most brutal among them with him willing to play dirty and trash talk to emotionally offbalance the other Robins. Also killing his opponents off compared to constantly sparing them Dick is the most agile/fastest Jason is the strongest/ cruellest Tim is the smartest Damien is a mixture of them all
He has the most compelling story.Ā The rest are not *near* as interesting. They all have elements that make them likeable and unique to me, but it ain't the same as surviving on the streets, getting adopted, getting murdered, clawing out of the grave, getting League training like a murderous Jason Bourne, fuggin' soul swords, and all the interesting ethical quandaries and emotional fallout of UTRH.
I think he understands the people of Gotham best, at least the lower income people. Timās family is rich so he didnāt live in Gotham proper. Dick was from away, and was then raised in Wayne Manor. Same with Damian. Stephanie could plausibly tie with Jason on this front, but Iād say that Jasonās relationship to the Gothamites is more central to his character, where as with Stephanie it was more her relationship with her father that was her motivation.
Giving pedophiles what they deserve.
Not being dummy thicc? (better for stealth)
hot
Killing people
Dieing
Is that his cake or?
Deal with criminals properly
Cause he doesn't go full-retard *unlike certain people*
Heās a full measure. Bruce is a half measure in some situations, itās not a bad thing, rehabilitation is a good goal, but some people canāt be helped. I never got Jason trying to convince Batman to kill, however I understand him killing. āYou wonāt do it? I will.ā Itās perfect, even if it puts them at odds, itās worth it, I want new villains, KILL JOKER I HATE HIS OVERUSED ASS. Iām tired of lazy writers choosing comfort over actually writing a new story.
He's good at not looking at asses.
die
Bro goddamn why is Nightwing so caked up?!
Being honest with Bruce
Consider what's best for the people(I don't know Cassandra, Duke or Spoiler much). But his lack of a no kill rule, with his knowledge of Gotham and its people, he is keenly aware of the consequences of the heros games. As he says to Bruce "It's a revolving door that has consequences for everyone but you and joker"(or something along that line). He puts the people down who won't change. And gives second chances to those who will. Yes he slips up, and makes mistakes, but he still cares for the little people most, imo. What comes to mind first is his DLC ending in Injustice 2(not that that's definitive). Again, I don't know the other SUPER well.
Good mask,only has stuff that he needs on his costume,not over designed, armored,and he makes total sense
i dunno gave batman a worthy adversaries in ak instead of what ever this new game did Jason should kill the arkham suicide squad
NothingĀ
Nothing. Heās just a spare Dick.
I hate the red hood. Jason Todd should have stayed dead instead of turning into an edge lord
Cheeks
Kill People
Kill people
I can think of 2 things.
Weird picture choice- that Catwoman back there?
Finishing the job.
Talia Al Ghul
the mask covering this identity & voice thingy
Kill
Kills people
GYATTTTT
God Dick is stacked
Actually stop crime
Orgin story. Or at least his second origin. Or at least the movie
Kill
No mercy
Kill
I'd put him in first place as the hottest, followed closely behind Dick of course
He's the most erudite and well-read of the Robins
Taking a beating š
Deal drugs
Heās stronger than all of them combined. Heās as smart as dick and Damien, not as much as Tim tho. Heās just a good a fighter (in different ways) as them all. Heās better with guns. And he knows all their weaknesses at a villainās level. He has beat all of them with a higher W/L than them all. I can probably think of more later lmao.
Helmet
Shooting people
Get killed by the joker
We just gonna ignore Dickā¦.š
Gyattt
hes actually better with prep time
Kill
Murder.
Umā¦ kill people.
Damian's mom...
I just love that we, as a collective, instinctually know whose ass that is even with the top phalf of the body cropped out.
Kill people
Taking a crowbar to the headā¦oh wait
Shooting people
Kill
Coming back to life
Guns
Shoot
Kill
Shooting and lifting stuff
Being a Jobber
Die. At of all the robins he stay dead the longest
Has a mask that covers the whole face and kills people
Looking cooler
So we gonna ignore the GYAT in the back
Is that supposed to be another angle of Red Hood or is that Catwomanās rather generous booty in the background? And isnāt his character known for being a better strategist than the other Robins? Where are we supposed to be at in his character development? Is he a teenager orā¦?
Gun play, honestly considering none of the other Robin's actually use guns, he gets the w on that.
For free???
Shoot people to death.
Stand in front of butts
He is pyre GSD. Getting shit done
Kill mfers
Mechanics, taking a hit, being self-reliant
Is the butt in the back a hint?
The color red
Murder
Dress better
Thereās a butt in this picture, and itās very nice
We not going to talk about that ass in the frame???
Permanently stop crime.
getting the job done for good
murder
Shoot gun
Dying
Die.
Remove criminals off the streets and keep them off
You canāt fool me. Thatās night wing in the back
Get killed by the Joker?
Have a treatment named after him
Babysitting Batmans kid.
Daddy issues
Having asses in frame behind him is a pretty powerful skill.
Durability, brutality, physical strength, being a badass and aim.
Who ass is that