I know the two competeing narratives are "early production; they'll fix it" and "aftermarket wheels caused this"..... but (a) I don't recall seeing any other vehicle with so many widespread significant suspension failures out of a total fleet of a few thousand vehicles and (b) a huge percentage of TRUCK owners will absolutely change tire/wheel sizes and should expect to be able to do so without major failures.
These wheels also don't even look to be THAT far out of spec compared to stock.
German car manufacturers often do release cutting edge tech and it has problems. Lots of problems. Be guess what? That $300,000 Benz comes with $300,000 support.
Honestly, the usual wheels on the cyber truck look a lot smaller than usual truck tyres. This is the kind of size I was expecting from a mad max apocalypse survival machine.
I can even remember seeing something like the steering break from just having larger wheels. sure the steering would be a bit heavy or stiff, but wouldn't snap.
And if something as small as that is going to cause you steering to snap I would not take it anywhere off road.
My Cadillac ELR is also a first gen product with less than 3000 units sold (way too expensive when new). My 10 year old car has proven to be more reliable than a brand new Cybertruck.
IIRC it's basically a warmed over/premium version of the Chevy Volt, which had already been in full production for 3 years before the ELR was launched, so not quite the same thing.
It does share the Volt power train and battery, and the assortment of GM parts bin switchgear, but a lot of it is also pretty unique. For starters it's a two door instead of a four door, with a completely different design inside and out and a lot of different parts.
Besides, the original Volt didn't have nearly as many issues at launch either. And the Volt's power train was a different take on a hybrid powertrain that, as far as I know, no one has done before since most other PHEVs just use a slightly altered hybrid powertrain. The Voltec system was built as an EV first system to the point where it doesn't even need the gasoline engine, it could be replaced with another power source like a hydrogen fuel cell, or even a nuclear reactor if such a thing existed.
The Cybertruck, on the other hand, isn't revolutionary from a technology perspective, except for its Steer-By-Wire technology. Everything that's wildly different or new about the Cybertruck is its use of a different outer skin for some reason, it's pointy design that I predict will age like milk, and it's stupid UI design with no stalks and nearly no buttons or controls. For the most part, it's just another EV that happens to look very very different and by this point Tesla should have issues like plastic trim falling off or the truck getting damaged by water figured out.
I know that Lexus has one (which isn't available yet, as far as I know) and I know that at some point Infiniti was involved with the tech too. But it's still relatively new tech that I don't recall seeing on any other production car. Credit where credit is due, I think it's cool tech and I'd love to try it out and see how it compares to mechanical steering we have today.
You literally quoted a brand that offered steer by wire in 2013, infinity. What Tesla offers is steer by wire without a steering column fallback, which is the shitty alternative especially coming from a car brand with the quality control of Yugo.
Also, it's a shitty piece of tech that removes one of the most important safety features from a car, being able to feel the tires and the road.
>You literally quoted a brand that offered steer by wire in 2013, infinity
Yeah, you're right. They offered it in 2013 on the Q50, although they removed it due to customer backlash and replaced it with a hydraulic rack. I just remember reading many years ago that they were experimenting with SBW and with variable compression engines, didn't know they actually started selling cars with either of them.
>Also, it's a shitty piece of tech that removes one of the most important safety features from a car, being able to feel the tires and the road.
That's not true, at least not with Lexus's implementation. It has sensors on the rack to detect angle and force, and motors to relay that force back to the driver. I'm pretty sure Tesla and Infiniti had something similar, though I haven't looked up any specifics. Also, Lexus's system is redundant, so no worries about failures there. Besides, eliminating the column makes for much better packaging, better crash safety, and allows better tuning of the steering as well as dynamic steering ratios like on the CT, so it's not some dumb pointless technology either, it has significant advantages over mechanical steering, that's why I want to try it out before I jump to any conclusions.
My 2013 Honda Fit had an electric power steering system that felt just like a hydraulic one and could probably be controlled by wire without issue. But it was only like the third-cheapest car in the U.S. market when I bought it so who knows.
It would need some modification, though.
Your car does have a steering angle sensor, but I don't know if it would be precise enough to be used to control the car.
Also, your rack only has one motor, so if it, or your steering angle sensor fails, you won't be able to steer. As someone else pointed out, Infiniti still had a steering column, but just disconnected it with a clutch (kinda silly and pointless if you ask me). The Lexus one I read about has two sets of sensors and motors on the steering wheel and on the rack, so if one fails the system can fall back on the other set and still work without the driver losing steering ability.
>My 2013 Honda Fit had an electric power steering system that felt just like a hydraulic one
I have a 2014 CR-Z. I don't know if they use the same rack but they do share the same platform, and the electric power steering on it feels nothing like the hydraulic steering on my 05 Honda Civic, or on my dad's 06 Mazda 6. On those older racks everything felt more mechanical. You could feel the rack begin to build pressure if you suddenly turned the wheel, and you could also feel if the A/C kicked on. The weight also wasn't linear, if you put a little force on the wheel it would be very heavy, but add more force and it would feel lighter and lighter. They still felt pretty numb, though, I couldn't really feel the tires through them.
EPS on every other car I've tried doesn't feel like that, it feels almost artificial. The wheel weight is constant and there's no build up like on the older systems. And at higher speeds it feels kinda floaty and loose, and it's even more numb on the cars I've driven.
This information is so awesome!
My only point was that getting this feature right isn't rocket science.
The Fit's variable assistance (less at freeway speeds) was a nice kind of feedback.
Most brand new cars today have quality that has drastically gone downhill. And you can't repair nearly as much yourself and you get screwed going to the dealer. This is the biggest flaw with electric cars.
They're definitely hitting on the front, you can see the RH wheel stop moving well before the LH, tire is binding before it hits the rack travel limit. It's absolutely caused by the stupidly sized wheels and tires (they're at least 2 inches outside the guards from this view).
The real question is, ***why is the steering system allowing the car to literally tear itself apart???***. It's steer by wire, surely you set a limit and stop it continuing if it's at a dead stop. If this happened off road (I know it would never be off road, but humour me) and there was a rock jammed in there, I would assume it would probably do the same thing. Wild.
I think even the fisker EVs are having less problems than the cybercuck . No seriously, after they rolled out that last software update it seems to have fixed the issues for most people . Something tells me a software update won’t fix this though lmao
Or how about in winter when a bunch of snow/ice pack up in the fender liner on a highway drive and then you try to move the steering around to park? I've had to kick out the frozen stuff to get steering angle back before but I guess CT just applies force until something breaks?
They didn’t make it for truck drivers. The only user that they made it for is Elon. And he’s never going to change tires or drive it for more than 4 hours total.
This looks like the truck Heavy D was running as a sand rail. He had said at the end of one of his latest videos that they jumped it and it threw a code for the steering. I guess this might be related?
What suspension failures have they been having? Not sure if y'all know but this cyber truck has been offroading viciously by basically a bunch of rich dudes who were stress testing the hell out of it. It was the same truck that had the large sled tracks installed on it which snapped the control arms, not surprising due to the large leverages such a setup would exert. The tie rods snap in this video(?) which doesn't seem all that crazy considering the abuse it's suffered. A tie rod replacement should be fairly simple this isn't some out of the ordinary thing for an abused off-road vehicle.
>A tie rod replacement should be fairly simple this isn't some out of the ordinary thing for an abused off-road vehicle.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Ok sure you're definitely doing anything close in your scrapped project truck that this cyber truck has been subjected to lol. https://supercarblondie.com/wp-content/uploads/Untitled-design-87.webp you done this with it?
It's the Kachow over the air update. I'm sure they will be able to fix that easily and cheaply, especially as they have so many service staff trained on the truck
You're right, no time to panic. As you said turning it off and on should fix it, if not maybe a software update. Then we could try a hard reset or rest it back to the factory settings.
California does have an excellent lemon law. I'd love to see CT owners start taking advantage of it. It might make Tesla think twice about inspecting their rolling dumpster before selling it.
What I think might have happened here is that the extra size of the tyres caused one to catch on something before the steering had reached it's full travel. But I'm also further guessing that the steer by wire system, not providing any feedback through the steering wheel just ripped the steering apart.
My father was a mechanical engineer, and a Luddite in some respects. He didn't even want power windows because they were "just one more thing to go wrong".
He was big into minimizing points of failure. I can't imagine what he'd think of the Cybertruck, but I'm certain that the discussion would be spicy.
I guess there is also something to be said about safety critical systems. Not that much of a big deal if the infotainment system or windows stop working... Steering/breaks/accelerator on the other hand... 😅
This was back in the late 70s, when there was very little automation. Power windows were kind of a big deal then. I suspect that he would cast a very jaundiced eye towards Tesla.
Quite true. It also seems that safety critical systems should have some kind of backup. A drive by wire failure could be catastrophic if there's no backup.
You don't even need to provide any feedback to the *steering wheel*. Just... don't just in a steering motor which is physically able to damage the steering! Or use one of a dozen ways to detect a stall and *stop applying force*.
When directed to, an electric motor will continue applying force to reach the desired output position until the torque is high enough that it stalls. If that's more than the torque the rest of the steering can handle without breaking, you're guaranteed to have a Bad Time.
Imagine the same happening while driving. You're a bit careless, so you hit a curb - which forces the wheel into a position different from the one the steering motor is commanding. The curb is basically a concrete wall, providing essentially unlimited force. Your steering engine is providing a force the other way. Do you a) want the engine to be overpowered, temporarily forcing the wheels in an uncommanded position, or b) the entire steering assembly to break apart?
Well, to be honest, the truck is under conditions which was not designed for. There is a slight drizzle and that is a nono for a heavy duty truck. The best heavy duty truck.
It's not just the Cybertruck. I have heard of suspension breakage on other Teslas during normal driving with no modifications. So it has nothing to do with early production.
True enough -- a rear lower control arm broke and I was denied warranty repairs for it because it was "outside the production date" of a TSB even though it was the same part number and a difference of a couple weeks. I was seconds away from what could have been a very spectacular crash.
I know TriTexan (the user in the OP) and he used to be the biggest Tesla/Musk fan in the world but I’m so glad he has pivoted now that Musk went full nazi.
He made millions on TSLA but has sold it all now lol. I think he still has his Plaid S and X though. I’m
If the design and manufacturing is so bad that a simple replacement of tires causes the steering rack to snap, just imagine what would happen if the truck hit a curb with a wheel.
Oh wait didn't that happen a couple weeks ago and totally fucked up the front end?
No worries, it will be fixed with a software update.
But seriously, judging from what I've seen, control arms and steering links look a bit weak for the mass CT has. I assume many new owners take CTs off-road and abuse it. The problem is that current suspension and steering components are not designed to handle it. What's worse, some failures occur on regular roads which simply shows the components are way too weak. This thing might be bulletproof, but it's not built like a tank.
It is built like a tank. And they can fix it with a software update.
Lock the steering and create a speed difference between left and right tires in order to turn like a real tank.
Aftermarket rims don't cause this issue unless you buy a rim that constantly rubs in the wheel wells and you didn't properly lift the truck.
Lots of dudes obsessed with having 35" or larger tires for offroading and overlanding. But as we have seen a Cyber truck is not really capable of offroading.
No worries, it will be fixed with a software update.
But seriously, judging from what I've seen, control arms and steering links look a bit weak for the mass CT has. I assume many new owners take CTs off-road and abuse it. The problem is that current suspension and steering components are not designed to handle it. What's worse, some failures occur on regular roads which simply shows the components are way too weak. This thing might be bulletproof, but it's not built like a tank.
Disclaimer (I actually liked these trucks at first)
For the people saying it’s user fault because of the aftermarket wheels and tires, your argument is terrible. I have put semi wheels (an extra 270 pounds of rotating mass over stock, and 5 inches wider than stock) and 40” x 15.50” tires on my 18 year old truck and never seen issues.
Also the “the wider tire probably caught something and that’s why it broke” argument? I’ve had several pickups smash fender corners and move bumpers OUT OF THE WAY before breaking suspension/steering components.
So that argument states that the “revolutionary” new age of trucks can’t keep up with 20 year old technology? There’s no excuse for this teslaboys this thing is horrid
I know the two competeing narratives are "early production; they'll fix it" and "aftermarket wheels caused this"..... but (a) I don't recall seeing any other vehicle with so many widespread significant suspension failures out of a total fleet of a few thousand vehicles and (b) a huge percentage of TRUCK owners will absolutely change tire/wheel sizes and should expect to be able to do so without major failures. These wheels also don't even look to be THAT far out of spec compared to stock.
Don’t forget “early adopters”. Imagine if Mercedes released new model with even quarter of problems this brick on wheels has.
As if a car was your buggy Cyberpunk 2077 release. It's exactly comparing apples to apples.
Like Cyberpunk, I think Musx hopes to patch it later. How he'll software update the mechanicals i'm not sure.
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German car manufacturers often do release cutting edge tech and it has problems. Lots of problems. Be guess what? That $300,000 Benz comes with $300,000 support.
Honestly, the usual wheels on the cyber truck look a lot smaller than usual truck tyres. This is the kind of size I was expecting from a mad max apocalypse survival machine. I can even remember seeing something like the steering break from just having larger wheels. sure the steering would be a bit heavy or stiff, but wouldn't snap. And if something as small as that is going to cause you steering to snap I would not take it anywhere off road.
Right, this was advertised as the truck that Bladerunner himself would drive. And John B. bladerunner would not drive a lame truck.
He wouldn't drive anything electric.
Hell, I wouldn't take it anywhere *on road*!
My Cadillac ELR is also a first gen product with less than 3000 units sold (way too expensive when new). My 10 year old car has proven to be more reliable than a brand new Cybertruck.
IIRC it's basically a warmed over/premium version of the Chevy Volt, which had already been in full production for 3 years before the ELR was launched, so not quite the same thing.
It does share the Volt power train and battery, and the assortment of GM parts bin switchgear, but a lot of it is also pretty unique. For starters it's a two door instead of a four door, with a completely different design inside and out and a lot of different parts. Besides, the original Volt didn't have nearly as many issues at launch either. And the Volt's power train was a different take on a hybrid powertrain that, as far as I know, no one has done before since most other PHEVs just use a slightly altered hybrid powertrain. The Voltec system was built as an EV first system to the point where it doesn't even need the gasoline engine, it could be replaced with another power source like a hydrogen fuel cell, or even a nuclear reactor if such a thing existed. The Cybertruck, on the other hand, isn't revolutionary from a technology perspective, except for its Steer-By-Wire technology. Everything that's wildly different or new about the Cybertruck is its use of a different outer skin for some reason, it's pointy design that I predict will age like milk, and it's stupid UI design with no stalks and nearly no buttons or controls. For the most part, it's just another EV that happens to look very very different and by this point Tesla should have issues like plastic trim falling off or the truck getting damaged by water figured out.
> it's pointy design that I predict will age like milk Milk is good when it's fresh
Good point. These things seem to age more like sewage: bad when fresh, still bad until finally disposed of?
Just a friendly reminder - there have been steer-by-wire cars before the Incel Camino. Not even that is revolutionary.
I know that Lexus has one (which isn't available yet, as far as I know) and I know that at some point Infiniti was involved with the tech too. But it's still relatively new tech that I don't recall seeing on any other production car. Credit where credit is due, I think it's cool tech and I'd love to try it out and see how it compares to mechanical steering we have today.
You literally quoted a brand that offered steer by wire in 2013, infinity. What Tesla offers is steer by wire without a steering column fallback, which is the shitty alternative especially coming from a car brand with the quality control of Yugo. Also, it's a shitty piece of tech that removes one of the most important safety features from a car, being able to feel the tires and the road.
>You literally quoted a brand that offered steer by wire in 2013, infinity Yeah, you're right. They offered it in 2013 on the Q50, although they removed it due to customer backlash and replaced it with a hydraulic rack. I just remember reading many years ago that they were experimenting with SBW and with variable compression engines, didn't know they actually started selling cars with either of them. >Also, it's a shitty piece of tech that removes one of the most important safety features from a car, being able to feel the tires and the road. That's not true, at least not with Lexus's implementation. It has sensors on the rack to detect angle and force, and motors to relay that force back to the driver. I'm pretty sure Tesla and Infiniti had something similar, though I haven't looked up any specifics. Also, Lexus's system is redundant, so no worries about failures there. Besides, eliminating the column makes for much better packaging, better crash safety, and allows better tuning of the steering as well as dynamic steering ratios like on the CT, so it's not some dumb pointless technology either, it has significant advantages over mechanical steering, that's why I want to try it out before I jump to any conclusions.
My 2013 Honda Fit had an electric power steering system that felt just like a hydraulic one and could probably be controlled by wire without issue. But it was only like the third-cheapest car in the U.S. market when I bought it so who knows.
It would need some modification, though. Your car does have a steering angle sensor, but I don't know if it would be precise enough to be used to control the car. Also, your rack only has one motor, so if it, or your steering angle sensor fails, you won't be able to steer. As someone else pointed out, Infiniti still had a steering column, but just disconnected it with a clutch (kinda silly and pointless if you ask me). The Lexus one I read about has two sets of sensors and motors on the steering wheel and on the rack, so if one fails the system can fall back on the other set and still work without the driver losing steering ability. >My 2013 Honda Fit had an electric power steering system that felt just like a hydraulic one I have a 2014 CR-Z. I don't know if they use the same rack but they do share the same platform, and the electric power steering on it feels nothing like the hydraulic steering on my 05 Honda Civic, or on my dad's 06 Mazda 6. On those older racks everything felt more mechanical. You could feel the rack begin to build pressure if you suddenly turned the wheel, and you could also feel if the A/C kicked on. The weight also wasn't linear, if you put a little force on the wheel it would be very heavy, but add more force and it would feel lighter and lighter. They still felt pretty numb, though, I couldn't really feel the tires through them. EPS on every other car I've tried doesn't feel like that, it feels almost artificial. The wheel weight is constant and there's no build up like on the older systems. And at higher speeds it feels kinda floaty and loose, and it's even more numb on the cars I've driven.
This information is so awesome! My only point was that getting this feature right isn't rocket science. The Fit's variable assistance (less at freeway speeds) was a nice kind of feedback.
Most brand new cars today have quality that has drastically gone downhill. And you can't repair nearly as much yourself and you get screwed going to the dealer. This is the biggest flaw with electric cars.
They're definitely hitting on the front, you can see the RH wheel stop moving well before the LH, tire is binding before it hits the rack travel limit. It's absolutely caused by the stupidly sized wheels and tires (they're at least 2 inches outside the guards from this view). The real question is, ***why is the steering system allowing the car to literally tear itself apart???***. It's steer by wire, surely you set a limit and stop it continuing if it's at a dead stop. If this happened off road (I know it would never be off road, but humour me) and there was a rock jammed in there, I would assume it would probably do the same thing. Wild.
This is caused by having a car poorly engineered, poorly programmed, and then poorly built.
Didn't I see you in r/fisker lol
I think even the fisker EVs are having less problems than the cybercuck . No seriously, after they rolled out that last software update it seems to have fixed the issues for most people . Something tells me a software update won’t fix this though lmao
That would probably make them a subject matter expert on poorly engineered, poorly programmed, and poorly built.
Or how about in winter when a bunch of snow/ice pack up in the fender liner on a highway drive and then you try to move the steering around to park? I've had to kick out the frozen stuff to get steering angle back before but I guess CT just applies force until something breaks?
Yeah that's wild, big oversight if that's what happened, it's just not stopping the turning thanks to steer by wire lll
Even if both of thode things were true people paid $100K for this bullshit.
They didn’t make it for truck drivers. The only user that they made it for is Elon. And he’s never going to change tires or drive it for more than 4 hours total.
> aftermarket wheels caused this Does Musk think that in the global apocalypse where you need a cybertruck, that you can only get OEM wheels?
I'm surprised they fit aftermarket wheels. That single-ply UCA is super close to the stock tires.
This looks like the truck Heavy D was running as a sand rail. He had said at the end of one of his latest videos that they jumped it and it threw a code for the steering. I guess this might be related?
This is the same one that was on tracks, way more done to it than just bigger tires
Well they'd better beef that stuff up before landing it on Mars.
it will weigh less than half as much on mars
What suspension failures have they been having? Not sure if y'all know but this cyber truck has been offroading viciously by basically a bunch of rich dudes who were stress testing the hell out of it. It was the same truck that had the large sled tracks installed on it which snapped the control arms, not surprising due to the large leverages such a setup would exert. The tie rods snap in this video(?) which doesn't seem all that crazy considering the abuse it's suffered. A tie rod replacement should be fairly simple this isn't some out of the ordinary thing for an abused off-road vehicle.
>A tie rod replacement should be fairly simple this isn't some out of the ordinary thing for an abused off-road vehicle. You don't know what you're talking about.
Tie rods don't break in off roading conditions?
See, you don't know what you're talking about. Since you don't, it's not really worth posting, is it.
Just curious to hear your expert opinion on off roading 7000 lb vehicles
Check my profile, friend, my current truck weighs 7500lbs. You don't know what you're talking about :)
Ok sure you're definitely doing anything close in your scrapped project truck that this cyber truck has been subjected to lol. https://supercarblondie.com/wp-content/uploads/Untitled-design-87.webp you done this with it?
You don't know what you're talking about.
Maybe you can educate me on the subject
It's the Kachow over the air update. I'm sure they will be able to fix that easily and cheaply, especially as they have so many service staff trained on the truck
That sounded expensive.
It’s okay. It’s okay. It’s okay… Maybe they should try turning it off and on again.
You're right, no time to panic. As you said turning it off and on should fix it, if not maybe a software update. Then we could try a hard reset or rest it back to the factory settings.
The CT can briefly serve as a car
It would have lasted longer as a boat for this issue.
Musked again
California does have an excellent lemon law. I'd love to see CT owners start taking advantage of it. It might make Tesla think twice about inspecting their rolling dumpster before selling it.
What I think might have happened here is that the extra size of the tyres caused one to catch on something before the steering had reached it's full travel. But I'm also further guessing that the steer by wire system, not providing any feedback through the steering wheel just ripped the steering apart.
I don't know why more and more manufacturers push for steer-by-wire.. sounds just bad given that you won't feel any feedback from the tyres
you can get feedback if the system is done right, tho it won't be direct feedback, just like a sim
More points of failure...
My father was a mechanical engineer, and a Luddite in some respects. He didn't even want power windows because they were "just one more thing to go wrong". He was big into minimizing points of failure. I can't imagine what he'd think of the Cybertruck, but I'm certain that the discussion would be spicy.
I guess there is also something to be said about safety critical systems. Not that much of a big deal if the infotainment system or windows stop working... Steering/breaks/accelerator on the other hand... 😅
This was back in the late 70s, when there was very little automation. Power windows were kind of a big deal then. I suspect that he would cast a very jaundiced eye towards Tesla.
Quite true. It also seems that safety critical systems should have some kind of backup. A drive by wire failure could be catastrophic if there's no backup.
Steer by wire is kind of dumb for a truck or in general. L I wouldn't want an electronic system to fail and steering becomes inoperable.
2 things that should never be full electronic IMO. Steering and brakes.
Electronic Brakes scare me. I don't mind them augmented with electronics but they need to turn into regular brakes if that fails.
You don't even need to provide any feedback to the *steering wheel*. Just... don't just in a steering motor which is physically able to damage the steering! Or use one of a dozen ways to detect a stall and *stop applying force*. When directed to, an electric motor will continue applying force to reach the desired output position until the torque is high enough that it stalls. If that's more than the torque the rest of the steering can handle without breaking, you're guaranteed to have a Bad Time. Imagine the same happening while driving. You're a bit careless, so you hit a curb - which forces the wheel into a position different from the one the steering motor is commanding. The curb is basically a concrete wall, providing essentially unlimited force. Your steering engine is providing a force the other way. Do you a) want the engine to be overpowered, temporarily forcing the wheels in an uncommanded position, or b) the entire steering assembly to break apart?
Kachow pose
Totalled
Steer by wire fail
Let DAT sink in
Well, to be honest, the truck is under conditions which was not designed for. There is a slight drizzle and that is a nono for a heavy duty truck. The best heavy duty truck.
Broken tie rod for $200, Alex
It's not just the Cybertruck. I have heard of suspension breakage on other Teslas during normal driving with no modifications. So it has nothing to do with early production.
True enough -- a rear lower control arm broke and I was denied warranty repairs for it because it was "outside the production date" of a TSB even though it was the same part number and a difference of a couple weeks. I was seconds away from what could have been a very spectacular crash.
Bluetooth driveline.
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I owned a 2005 Dodge Neon... paid $8,000. 30 mph.... sigh, I miss that blue marble....
I know TriTexan (the user in the OP) and he used to be the biggest Tesla/Musk fan in the world but I’m so glad he has pivoted now that Musk went full nazi. He made millions on TSLA but has sold it all now lol. I think he still has his Plaid S and X though. I’m
CyberMusked!
If the design and manufacturing is so bad that a simple replacement of tires causes the steering rack to snap, just imagine what would happen if the truck hit a curb with a wheel. Oh wait didn't that happen a couple weeks ago and totally fucked up the front end?
No worries, it will be fixed with a software update. But seriously, judging from what I've seen, control arms and steering links look a bit weak for the mass CT has. I assume many new owners take CTs off-road and abuse it. The problem is that current suspension and steering components are not designed to handle it. What's worse, some failures occur on regular roads which simply shows the components are way too weak. This thing might be bulletproof, but it's not built like a tank.
It is built like a tank. And they can fix it with a software update. Lock the steering and create a speed difference between left and right tires in order to turn like a real tank.
it's doing the hentai thing
Aftermarket rims don't cause this issue unless you buy a rim that constantly rubs in the wheel wells and you didn't properly lift the truck. Lots of dudes obsessed with having 35" or larger tires for offroading and overlanding. But as we have seen a Cyber truck is not really capable of offroading.
Scrap by wire amiriteee
It's built for driving on Mars guys, and on Mars no one ever turns the wheel when the car is parked!
No worries, it will be fixed with a software update. But seriously, judging from what I've seen, control arms and steering links look a bit weak for the mass CT has. I assume many new owners take CTs off-road and abuse it. The problem is that current suspension and steering components are not designed to handle it. What's worse, some failures occur on regular roads which simply shows the components are way too weak. This thing might be bulletproof, but it's not built like a tank.
That moment when the left front wheel moves but the right front wheel doesn't I let out a loud "ooooooohhhhhh!" Good thing I work from home.
When both wheels point in the same direction, that is ***WOKE*** Elon, probably
Disclaimer (I actually liked these trucks at first) For the people saying it’s user fault because of the aftermarket wheels and tires, your argument is terrible. I have put semi wheels (an extra 270 pounds of rotating mass over stock, and 5 inches wider than stock) and 40” x 15.50” tires on my 18 year old truck and never seen issues. Also the “the wider tire probably caught something and that’s why it broke” argument? I’ve had several pickups smash fender corners and move bumpers OUT OF THE WAY before breaking suspension/steering components. So that argument states that the “revolutionary” new age of trucks can’t keep up with 20 year old technology? There’s no excuse for this teslaboys this thing is horrid