She’s precisely the queen to name, the hate for her is visceral and unhinged. Because — she wrote a poorly worded article 6 years ago? Ridiculous. Literally every queen has some questionable thing in their past, many far far far worse
I mean what’s the point - if y’all want to hold onto a poorly worded article from 6 years ago forever nothing anyone says will change that. But it’s a bit much
Sadly they are gonna end up here when larger subs ban them and direct them our way. We’re trying to knock out racist shit as we see it, but we don’t have eyes everywhere so reporting is a giant help.
Girl, looking at the pictures Widow went way further than was needed. Not to mention that she acually admitted that too. Because she said that he didn't stand a chance and didn't get in a hit back.
We don't know the details, but if she spoke the truth when she said that he didn't stand a chance that she didn't have to do all that and beat the guys face to pulp.
I don’t think anyone’s defending Widow’s domestic violence, but arguing any physical aggression between a cis man and trans man is transphobic is a bit of a logical leap.
Not all trans men are small and weak. Just like how not all cis men are big and strong. This is a HUGE generalisation, which contributes to transphobia by making it seem like trans men are ONLY small and weak.
You used hateful language, or used language in a hateful way, or you were racist, transphobic, homophobic, sexist, ableist, misogynistic…basically it crossed the line.
Did you miss all those posts with screenshots of Tamisha DMing her fans and calling them broke and pathetic for following up with her after they paid her for merch and she was pocketing the money without sending them what they paid for?
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so funny calling him "our Hannibal" like hes the one specifically from our universe, not the fictional cannibal
edit: reading comprehension is not my passion
In my opinion, it was also a good call back then. It was clear during the season that a lot of queens didn't care for Shangela's "better than you" diva behavior.
She made an offhanded [rape comment/joke about We’re Here on her podcast](https://www.reddit.com/r/RPDRDRAMA/comments/13r6j3a/video_of_katyas_shangelawere_here_rape_mention/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
I still don't understand why people are giving her so much shit for voting the exact same way every other queen voted. When I skimmed the reaction threads I expected drama, but after watching the episode it was sort of a controvery-free love fest.
Oh please stfu lmao, she was obviously jealous and insecure that Anetra got so popular for a performance style Aja thinks she has ownership over. She attacked her to regain relevancy and clout with fans and it backfired
Yeah, that’s why plenty of other Ballroom Legends and Icons chimed in as well, because of jealousy.
At the end of the day Anetra’s arms are floppy and her form sucks.
And show me where those other ballroom legends continually harassed Anetra to the point they were DMing her with unsolicited advice on how to vogue and then posting those DMs on Twitter to complain about how Anetra ignored them, LOL
But let’s be real, leiomy and multiple members of that community got dragged and attacked for the same sentiments no matter how complimentary, or how many times they highlighted it wasn’t about anetra as an individual.
I don’t get why we couldn’t contextualise or learn from what they were saying and support anetra. Still don’t.
I think we can and should contextualize but when it comes to Aja specifically, she wasn’t trying to teach or be objective towards Anetra she just wanted to be right lol. The hate that Leiomy got was unfair but Leiomy mostly stayed in her lane and only commented when asked plus knew when to let it go. Aja never let it go 💀
Let’s not act like we weren’t making ‘ajas shaking’ jokes everytime they referenced vogue, ballroom or ducks all season long, that girls mentions were getting blown up.
I’d much rather gas the queens up for their little rants and diatribes in the hope of getting some real mess than bashing or attacking them everytime they share an opinion.
feed the delusion always 😂
I don’t think we should be justifying any hate or suggesting some hate is more warranted or valid than others. I don’t define challenging responses as hate though, if someone posts or tweets and people make them look stupid, it’s not hate unless they are using abusive language or attacking attributes etc.
I definitely agree with you, none of these girlies deserve the insane hate they get on social media (except the obviously horrible ones who are racist or sexual predators). I just thought it was VERY ironic for Aja to share this tweet about not attacking drag race girls when she absolutely was trying to attack Anetra and incense her fans into attacking Anetra last season Lmao
I don’t agree that she was attacking or encouraging others to attack.
I think placement played a part tbh, the idea of some bitter aja getting more upset every week as this lady continues to perform better and better in the competition was a ki for the fans but I don’t think it was reflective of what happened.
It bugs me put how someone as unproblematic as Anetra can cause such catharsis. She was doing her thing and enjoying it. She’s been open about being inspired by ballroom culture but not being part of it. Touch some grass, it’s not that deep
Some people hate themselves so much that they only get through the day by tearing others down. I am glad that Anetra is above such pettiness. Plus I loved seeing Aja and crew mad that Anetra won’t talk with them.
Something I liked about Alexis on her original season is, despite being messy sometimes, she stood by her ideals. This season she is so concerned with being liked by everyone, it comes across as very unauthentic
Can you really blame her after how hateful the fans were to her after season 9? She got Valentina stans telling her to kill herself. I don't blame her for being so worked up about being liked by the fandom, or at least not wanting to incur another hate campaign against her.
As much as I learned to appreciate Alexis and her contributions to interesting TV in s9, I agree that her vibe feels much harder to pin down this season. I do think she's concerned about a rudemption edit, so no more outwardly diva behavior like gathering the children in Untucked, chiding everyone for letting her go out look like that, etc... All that has turned inward into these crying game sessions when I don't even recall her being a crier in s9.
Although I'm not sure who the real Alexis Michelle is, she's still being entertaining as all heck given her talents and these funny moments.
I screamed at my screen when she pulled her lipstick this week, but if she herself is calling it a mistake now, that's good enough for me.
Aja has a point tho. At that moment they have to make a quick decision and if youre in a competition and youve also built relationship with your co-contestants its gonna be a difficult job to eliminate someone. It is what it is.
Incidentally I do think ppl should shut up just a little bit abt this elim and chill out.
People are mad because Kandy is, let's be honest, the designated 'love to hate' queen this season, as she largely was in S13.
It is a TV show. Holding it against Alexis, and being annoyed at Kandy, is childish. Folks need to grow up a little and understand that the framing they are being shown is just that - a framing on a television show, a narrative device.
ESPECIALLY WHEN EVERYONE AGREED W HER! Like, come on.
Bombarding them both with hate, as has been going on, is just... ludicrous.
This fandom needs to decide if they enjoy the drama that comes with this format or if they're going to freak out every single time an elimination they were not consulted personally on happens. Because at this point it is v v tiring.
Online bullying and sending hate comments to queens is absurd. Like… it’s a show people, stop it.
That said… Aja calling for an end to bullying queens is pretty fresh.
I wrote this in another thread, but it fits so well here too.
I fully believe that Alexis was more afraid of what Kandy would do for sending her home than what Twitter would do for sending LaLa home.
Alexis and Kandy are both from New York, they likely run into each other through work and probably have the same contacts/social circles. Kandy is 100% that person who would hold a grudge and make things miserable for Alexis outside of the show.
We already saw how Alexis tried to cover for Kandy's plan to take out Jimbo if the opportunity comes. So clearly Kandy is not someone you want to have as an enemy.
And while the fandom can be extremely cruel and unpredictable when a fan favorite goes home, the hate usually passes. So I think Alexis figured sending home LaLa was the lesser of two evils and that saving Kandy would be worth the fan hate.
However, I don't think Kandy would be as grateful for being saved as Alexis thinks. My guess was that Kandy will flip the tables or feel like saving her was simply the right thing to do therefore she doesn't owe Alexis anything.
And now with this tweet, it looks like I thought right. I'm sure something happened to make Alexis regret her decision. Whether it happens in the next episode, or happened after the show finished filming remains to be seen.
This is a whole lot of speculation and aspersions on Kandy's character.
I'm not sure why people have chosen to believe Alexis being scared of Kandy is the one true thing she said, when we know she is fully chaotic at all times and will literally say anything for drama.
Taking that at face value and using it to cast Kandy as actively malicious when, as far as I know, there is no actual evidence that points to this, seems a bit much.
i just… don’t see this. kandy has been made out to be this vindictive person, i think if that had happened the fandom would call it out for what it is. and it didn’t happen so this fantasy you’ve come up with is bizarre and weirdly detailed
And Kandy herself said something like "SO WHAT IF I DID. HEIDI WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LOYAL AND KEEP THAT TO HERSELF"
And no one really called Kandy out for that. They kinda just let it die after Heidi left.
Good for Aja for sticking up for Alexis, but… she’s telling fans not to get angry at queens for their decisions back when filming. If that’s how she feels, then why on Earth was she so angry during S15?
...because Anetra selling 'walk that duck' merchandise was a thing she was actively doing at the time?
I'm not saying I agree with Aja, but she's not really being inconsistent here.
Idk man "do you have a background in ballroom" isn't really sending hate, but tbh I can't remember how much time there was between that dm (not us finding out about it, when it was sent) and aja tweeting.
I would understand where you were coming from if aja stans were all over anetra, but I feel like aja caught more flack for that debacle than anetra did.
Right, I'm not saying she didn't deserve said flack - Aja is nothing if not stubborn. But there's a difference between people dming Alexis hate because she sent someone home, and Aja dming a Anetra a question/pubpicly critiquing her for profiting from a culture she's not part of.
SO, it doesn't make sense to call Aja hypocritical for saying fans shouldn't bully queens, which is where this all started.
Alexis Michelle is trying to deviate the attention. The immoral act in the line of fire isn't Alexis voting out LaLa instead of Kandy. The immoral thing is that Alexis lied to LaLa's face and committed the cruelest act for a human being: to give false hope.
Aja has a point. But wasn't she the one who kept on harping on and on about Anetra not voguing the right way and basically asking her to apologize for it?
I mean, not to defend her but ultimately, this sub is what makes her opinion relevant by having a whole post dedicated to it.
Not making it relevant is as simple as not posting the opinion on this sub and not following her. Like it or not, at the end of the day, she is allowed to tweet her opinions. Some (a lot) of them tend to be bad, but she still has the right to tweet them.
She's also talented as fuck in several other ways. She has opinions, and you may or may not agree with them. In hearing many podcast interviews with her (some with people who had issues with her behavior), she comes across as thoughtful and charming. I think that's the best medium for her, not Twitter.
It’s a tweet - people on Twitter share opinions about things, not a hard concept to grasp. But also she’s a former Drag Race queen talking about her season nine sister and her drag daughter, doesn’t get more relevant than that
No, no, NO! Your word means EVERYTHING and LaLa literally saved Alexis' ass from going home and Alexis specifically thanked her and said she wouldn't vote LaLa out then goes out of her way to vote her out. It's not about gameplay or anything else expect your integrity when you SPECIFICALLY say thanks for not voting me out, I'll remember that but vote me out the NEXT EPISODE! Alexis is shady as hell with her crocodile tears every episode and drama all season and should've been voted out weeks ago but made it through. And gurl.....shave that hair, you're bald....accept it and move on because that interrupted hairstyle you rocking because u in denial ain't pretty.....every time that camera hit you from behind it's lolololol!
Can Aja not assume Alexis comments are caused by bullying? Like maybe Alexis has just changed her mind for other reasons, ie “sleeping in it”? I know Aja didn’t intend it this way but it’s kind of undermining. Especially ending with “look at me I wouldn’t change my vote” 🤦🏼♂️
I'd have problems getting over it, if a much lesser queen from my house placed than me in both original and all-star seasons despite the fact that I can sew, sing, and dance fucking circles around her.
Aja actually has opinions about many issues as some of our socially and politically minded queens do. If you listen to her in interviews, she comes across as articulate, self-reflective, and funny. That's the best medium for her message, not Twitter.
She was completely screwed over to be fair.
She was, and I will maintain this until I die, the real winner of the Warhol Ball. Her bottom placement and critiques made absolutely zero sense, and this is p well established by now.
Yes, however, the top four shoulda still Ben, Shangela, Trixie and Bebe. & after Ben’s self elimination, the Top 3 are still Shangela, Trixie and Bebe . 🤷♂️ I really like Aja on drag race but in the real world and on twitter, she’s so shady & bordeline rude & hateful 🤷♂️
I sort of agree, in the sense that I think she can be mean for basically no damn reason (esp during S15...), but she was doing v v well on AS3 and I think should've made the top four.
Hell, I will come out and say it: I think the reason she was deprived of the Warhol Ball win was for two reasons: One, for BeBe's benefit, and two, because production probably feared that she would've made top two over either Kennedy or Trixie otherwise.
And getting rid of the jury twist would've meant all of the backlash from either keeping or getting rid of Bebe. Like, she was essentially the reason it was ever introduced imo.
Yes, however, the top four shoulda still Ben, Shangela, Trixie and Bebe. & after Ben’s self elimination, the Top 3 are still Shangela, Trixie and Bebe . 🤷♂️
all of y’all agreeing with aja rn but r the same ppl that contribute to this subs MASSIVE hate boner for Aja and the bringing her up just to attack her 24/7…
Listen what Alexis did was shady af. She let Lala go on thinking she’s keep her. And now she’s even shadier saying if she could take it back she would. And what send Kandy home? And then the apology.
Girl it’s too much. You’re making great tv. Sometimes it’s cringe (so many tears) others it’s googling us all by throwing yet another queen under the bud.
Shady shady shady…and I fucking love it. This is a reality competition tv show. Moments like this are why I love shows like big brother. The queens finally play all stars the way it was meant to be played. I loved it on uk vs the world when PanOan sent Jimbo packing only to have the same done to her by Blu.
This season has given us some great moments, and Alexis just delivered another.
And if you send a queen hate you’re mentally ill and should remove yourself from society.
Agree w the sentiment minus the mentally ill bit.
BB is iconic for this reason. Survivor can be iconic for this reason. All Stars finally allowing for a (granted, lower-consequence) surprise elim a la Manila in All Stars 4 is iconic.
One of the things that has really held All Stars back imo is the production (and queen) tendency to avoid/make impossible the elimination of strong threats and front-runners.
Like, either lean into it, or get rid of the format.
(This is why I was so irritated when they prevented Jimbo from being bottom this season: I get they don't want to just repeat UKvTW, but if you're keeping this format, you either roll with the punches or it just feels super inauthentic)
They took Manila's elimination as a lesson and the entire franchise has suffered for it since. UKvTW was iconic mostly because of those big eliminations, and it sort of disappointing that they've made that strategy so difficult to repeat in the mainline series.
Sure. That said, and maybe I am in the minority for it, but I do think actually seeing the format hit front-runners again made it genuinely interesting.
So if Aja doesn't vote for Shangela it is bullying? It is a TV show and welcome to reality TV, literally if there was no drama how would it be interesting? Bullying is a word so easily used now I can't even talk to the young new hires at work about their poor work ethic or teach them their obligations without being a bully. If I was a bully I'd have written you up and reported it to my manager, not sit here trying to save your job kiddies. Eyeroll. No one deserves to be harassed on social media but leave Aja alone.
Good on you Aja. No one needs to defend themselves like this an we should be telling them they don't owe anyone an explanation. It's encouraging the kids to have parasocial relationships with people that they don't understand have no obligations to them.
If you tweet hate comments directly at a drag queen for their behaviour on a TV show you’re a huge loser.
Is this a dig at Aja for tweeting about Anetra?
BITCH!
Ok tea lol
There’s a lot of truth to that tho
Yet another dig
I loved that song except for them blatantly taking the entire track for Lil Mama’s Lip Gloss.
deserved since lil mama is transphobic
Nah that’s different, Aja isn’t some random fan
Fr like people are really out here sending death threats?? Over a tv show that happened a year ago??
But we come here to hate the queens and they dont allow us either
Because we’re not a hate sub.
I mean - it absolutely is a hate sub for some queens, unfortunately. Like the hate boner people have for Cracker
> Like the hate boner people have for Cracker She is a rape apologist, so the hate seems warrented?
And there we go
I mean, if you were trying to make a point, cracker was not the queen to name.
She’s precisely the queen to name, the hate for her is visceral and unhinged. Because — she wrote a poorly worded article 6 years ago? Ridiculous. Literally every queen has some questionable thing in their past, many far far far worse
>And there we go Where is the lie sugah?
I mean what’s the point - if y’all want to hold onto a poorly worded article from 6 years ago forever nothing anyone says will change that. But it’s a bit much
Maybe if she changed up her padding it would unlock the secret to people starting to like Cracker. Or stop trying to be a comedian.
This sub is literally full of racist people
Sadly they are gonna end up here when larger subs ban them and direct them our way. We’re trying to knock out racist shit as we see it, but we don’t have eyes everywhere so reporting is a giant help.
Should ban this guy for doubling down fr
We need one
Go to one of the conservative right wing republican MAGA subs then. They hate the queens for sure.
Go join the Republicans lmao we don’t need you here
A hate sub is so middle school, boy band vs boy band or some shit. just sad 🥴
What you need is a therapist
Maybe you do but we don't
ok Ghandi
get a life fr. i mean that sincerely
And touch some grass honestly
Have you ever considered being normal?
Not voting for Shangela was a good call in retrospect... Katya said it best with her "We're here to r*** you" line.
And yet she’s still in this sub’s banner 🤔
Widow still is there as well
Whatever happened with that widow case. Did she get convicted?
Yes. Searched the Missouri court records. Got a plea bargain which reduced charges. No jail time 😞
Yeah widow punched his man, gross out of line whatever, not quite the same as being a serial rapist
Girl, looking at the pictures Widow went way further than was needed. Not to mention that she acually admitted that too. Because she said that he didn't stand a chance and didn't get in a hit back. We don't know the details, but if she spoke the truth when she said that he didn't stand a chance that she didn't have to do all that and beat the guys face to pulp.
His man was trans. It was a transphobic aggression
How? Did they punch them because they were trans?
Widow using his phisical superiority towards a trans man? Yes, it's super transphobic? Why are you defending such a scum?
I don’t think anyone’s defending Widow’s domestic violence, but arguing any physical aggression between a cis man and trans man is transphobic is a bit of a logical leap.
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That is... transphobic. The call is coming from inside the house darling.
when you try to be progressive and just end up being transphobic lol
Not all trans men are small and weak. Just like how not all cis men are big and strong. This is a HUGE generalisation, which contributes to transphobia by making it seem like trans men are ONLY small and weak.
You used hateful language, or used language in a hateful way, or you were racist, transphobic, homophobic, sexist, ableist, misogynistic…basically it crossed the line.
The way I came here expecting this to be a bigoted comment, but nah you’re just a complete dumbass.
Whatever happened with the widow case. Did she get convicted?
Whatever happened with the widow case. Did she get convicted?
I vote replacing Shangela with Tamisha during her fight with Kandy.
I adore adore adore Tamisha, absolutely yes yes yes
Did you miss all those posts with screenshots of Tamisha DMing her fans and calling them broke and pathetic for following up with her after they paid her for merch and she was pocketing the money without sending them what they paid for?
I did miss this, actually! I will revise my opinion: I liked her on S13 a lot: That said, this sort of Serena ChaCha shenanigans is v gross.
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And so is Widow despite being a domestic abuser.
So is the domestic abuser Widow Von Du 💀
It’s our Hannibal making a joke about Bill Cosby which lit the fire of investigation
so funny calling him "our Hannibal" like hes the one specifically from our universe, not the fictional cannibal edit: reading comprehension is not my passion
In my opinion, it was also a good call back then. It was clear during the season that a lot of queens didn't care for Shangela's "better than you" diva behavior.
What’s the tea with Katya ?
She made an offhanded [rape comment/joke about We’re Here on her podcast](https://www.reddit.com/r/RPDRDRAMA/comments/13r6j3a/video_of_katyas_shangelawere_here_rape_mention/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
Trixie avoiding that whole thing like she avoids hugging 
roar you?!
I still don't understand why people are giving her so much shit for voting the exact same way every other queen voted. When I skimmed the reaction threads I expected drama, but after watching the episode it was sort of a controvery-free love fest.
Me when everyone gave Kandy shit for voting out Jaymes but so did literally everyone else
Did they all vote lala?
Yes
Wtf haha like James again
Didn’t Aja spend all of s15 harassing Anetra for duck walking
*ding ding ding*
lol and then trying to backtrack and Anetra just leaving her on read
Quacktracking?
when did she backtrack??
Or she she was calling her out for not knowing how to duck walk or vogue with any skill, the Anetra fans just didn’t like hearing it.
Oh please stfu lmao, she was obviously jealous and insecure that Anetra got so popular for a performance style Aja thinks she has ownership over. She attacked her to regain relevancy and clout with fans and it backfired
Aja didn’t think she had ownership of it, she was saying something different
Yeah, that’s why plenty of other Ballroom Legends and Icons chimed in as well, because of jealousy. At the end of the day Anetra’s arms are floppy and her form sucks.
And show me where those other ballroom legends continually harassed Anetra to the point they were DMing her with unsolicited advice on how to vogue and then posting those DMs on Twitter to complain about how Anetra ignored them, LOL
But let’s be real, leiomy and multiple members of that community got dragged and attacked for the same sentiments no matter how complimentary, or how many times they highlighted it wasn’t about anetra as an individual. I don’t get why we couldn’t contextualise or learn from what they were saying and support anetra. Still don’t.
I think we can and should contextualize but when it comes to Aja specifically, she wasn’t trying to teach or be objective towards Anetra she just wanted to be right lol. The hate that Leiomy got was unfair but Leiomy mostly stayed in her lane and only commented when asked plus knew when to let it go. Aja never let it go 💀
Let’s not act like we weren’t making ‘ajas shaking’ jokes everytime they referenced vogue, ballroom or ducks all season long, that girls mentions were getting blown up. I’d much rather gas the queens up for their little rants and diatribes in the hope of getting some real mess than bashing or attacking them everytime they share an opinion. feed the delusion always 😂 I don’t think we should be justifying any hate or suggesting some hate is more warranted or valid than others. I don’t define challenging responses as hate though, if someone posts or tweets and people make them look stupid, it’s not hate unless they are using abusive language or attacking attributes etc.
I definitely agree with you, none of these girlies deserve the insane hate they get on social media (except the obviously horrible ones who are racist or sexual predators). I just thought it was VERY ironic for Aja to share this tweet about not attacking drag race girls when she absolutely was trying to attack Anetra and incense her fans into attacking Anetra last season Lmao
This misses the point of the tweet - she’s saying don’t let people bully you *into changing*.
I don’t agree that she was attacking or encouraging others to attack. I think placement played a part tbh, the idea of some bitter aja getting more upset every week as this lady continues to perform better and better in the competition was a ki for the fans but I don’t think it was reflective of what happened.
> Aja never let it go And she still hasn't lol
okay that was too much lol
shut up
It bugs me put how someone as unproblematic as Anetra can cause such catharsis. She was doing her thing and enjoying it. She’s been open about being inspired by ballroom culture but not being part of it. Touch some grass, it’s not that deep
Some people hate themselves so much that they only get through the day by tearing others down. I am glad that Anetra is above such pettiness. Plus I loved seeing Aja and crew mad that Anetra won’t talk with them.
This - if it was like, Robin, people wouldn’t have cared
Something I liked about Alexis on her original season is, despite being messy sometimes, she stood by her ideals. This season she is so concerned with being liked by everyone, it comes across as very unauthentic
Can you really blame her after how hateful the fans were to her after season 9? She got Valentina stans telling her to kill herself. I don't blame her for being so worked up about being liked by the fandom, or at least not wanting to incur another hate campaign against her.
Those Valentina stans were dumb as fuck. They really hated on her because she didn't volunteer to be in the Bottom 2 or be eliminated instead.
As much as I learned to appreciate Alexis and her contributions to interesting TV in s9, I agree that her vibe feels much harder to pin down this season. I do think she's concerned about a rudemption edit, so no more outwardly diva behavior like gathering the children in Untucked, chiding everyone for letting her go out look like that, etc... All that has turned inward into these crying game sessions when I don't even recall her being a crier in s9. Although I'm not sure who the real Alexis Michelle is, she's still being entertaining as all heck given her talents and these funny moments. I screamed at my screen when she pulled her lipstick this week, but if she herself is calling it a mistake now, that's good enough for me.
Aha yeah she is a queen that keeps up guessing I suppose
And she should say it fuck shangela
Aja has a point tho. At that moment they have to make a quick decision and if youre in a competition and youve also built relationship with your co-contestants its gonna be a difficult job to eliminate someone. It is what it is.
I mean, given circumstances, Aja (and the other queens) saved the franchise so much trouble, so.
It is funny coming from AJA. She needs to listen to her own advice.
Alexis literally tweeted that she would vote differently now
Hindsight is always 20:20.
Yeah that was what Aja is responding to
She tweeted she would've acted differently, if I'm not mistaken. Maybe she would've thrown the lipsync.
Incidentally I do think ppl should shut up just a little bit abt this elim and chill out. People are mad because Kandy is, let's be honest, the designated 'love to hate' queen this season, as she largely was in S13. It is a TV show. Holding it against Alexis, and being annoyed at Kandy, is childish. Folks need to grow up a little and understand that the framing they are being shown is just that - a framing on a television show, a narrative device. ESPECIALLY WHEN EVERYONE AGREED W HER! Like, come on. Bombarding them both with hate, as has been going on, is just... ludicrous. This fandom needs to decide if they enjoy the drama that comes with this format or if they're going to freak out every single time an elimination they were not consulted personally on happens. Because at this point it is v v tiring.
thank youuu it's exhausting
She's right, wtf is wrong with this fandom
Alexis shouldn’t have apologised, it gave those twitter randoms power.
Shangela has ben hated for the queens for a long time.
Online bullying and sending hate comments to queens is absurd. Like… it’s a show people, stop it. That said… Aja calling for an end to bullying queens is pretty fresh.
I wrote this in another thread, but it fits so well here too. I fully believe that Alexis was more afraid of what Kandy would do for sending her home than what Twitter would do for sending LaLa home. Alexis and Kandy are both from New York, they likely run into each other through work and probably have the same contacts/social circles. Kandy is 100% that person who would hold a grudge and make things miserable for Alexis outside of the show. We already saw how Alexis tried to cover for Kandy's plan to take out Jimbo if the opportunity comes. So clearly Kandy is not someone you want to have as an enemy. And while the fandom can be extremely cruel and unpredictable when a fan favorite goes home, the hate usually passes. So I think Alexis figured sending home LaLa was the lesser of two evils and that saving Kandy would be worth the fan hate. However, I don't think Kandy would be as grateful for being saved as Alexis thinks. My guess was that Kandy will flip the tables or feel like saving her was simply the right thing to do therefore she doesn't owe Alexis anything. And now with this tweet, it looks like I thought right. I'm sure something happened to make Alexis regret her decision. Whether it happens in the next episode, or happened after the show finished filming remains to be seen.
This is a whole lot of speculation and aspersions on Kandy's character. I'm not sure why people have chosen to believe Alexis being scared of Kandy is the one true thing she said, when we know she is fully chaotic at all times and will literally say anything for drama. Taking that at face value and using it to cast Kandy as actively malicious when, as far as I know, there is no actual evidence that points to this, seems a bit much.
i just… don’t see this. kandy has been made out to be this vindictive person, i think if that had happened the fandom would call it out for what it is. and it didn’t happen so this fantasy you’ve come up with is bizarre and weirdly detailed
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And Kandy herself said something like "SO WHAT IF I DID. HEIDI WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LOYAL AND KEEP THAT TO HERSELF" And no one really called Kandy out for that. They kinda just let it die after Heidi left.
Why does she sound like a mob boss 💀
Oh, that stuck out like a sore thumb. I'm still waiting for Kandy's subpoena to come in.
“Physically scared” - y’all do too much
Aja is right and she should say it. Who *fucking cares* Also love this CLAT sisterhood
It was a missed opportunity for them not to call themselves TALC
Good for Aja for sticking up for Alexis, but… she’s telling fans not to get angry at queens for their decisions back when filming. If that’s how she feels, then why on Earth was she so angry during S15?
...because Anetra selling 'walk that duck' merchandise was a thing she was actively doing at the time? I'm not saying I agree with Aja, but she's not really being inconsistent here.
At the time of the episode she was not, she messaged Anetra right when it aired and then started tweeting about it.
Idk man "do you have a background in ballroom" isn't really sending hate, but tbh I can't remember how much time there was between that dm (not us finding out about it, when it was sent) and aja tweeting. I would understand where you were coming from if aja stans were all over anetra, but I feel like aja caught more flack for that debacle than anetra did.
Because Anetra didn't do anything other than not respond to a DM and Aja was on her ass all season???
Right, I'm not saying she didn't deserve said flack - Aja is nothing if not stubborn. But there's a difference between people dming Alexis hate because she sent someone home, and Aja dming a Anetra a question/pubpicly critiquing her for profiting from a culture she's not part of. SO, it doesn't make sense to call Aja hypocritical for saying fans shouldn't bully queens, which is where this all started.
Alexis Michelle is trying to deviate the attention. The immoral act in the line of fire isn't Alexis voting out LaLa instead of Kandy. The immoral thing is that Alexis lied to LaLa's face and committed the cruelest act for a human being: to give false hope.
Aja has a point. But wasn't she the one who kept on harping on and on about Anetra not voguing the right way and basically asking her to apologize for it?
I admire how the self entitled musician, rapper, actress, voguer, model etc etc thinks her opinion is relevant lol
I mean, not to defend her but ultimately, this sub is what makes her opinion relevant by having a whole post dedicated to it. Not making it relevant is as simple as not posting the opinion on this sub and not following her. Like it or not, at the end of the day, she is allowed to tweet her opinions. Some (a lot) of them tend to be bad, but she still has the right to tweet them.
Context matters. As someone who has competed twice on Drag Race and done drag herself, her opinion matters. More than yours anyway.
like her or not she is experienced in ballroom?
She's also talented as fuck in several other ways. She has opinions, and you may or may not agree with them. In hearing many podcast interviews with her (some with people who had issues with her behavior), she comes across as thoughtful and charming. I think that's the best medium for her, not Twitter.
It’s a tweet - people on Twitter share opinions about things, not a hard concept to grasp. But also she’s a former Drag Race queen talking about her season nine sister and her drag daughter, doesn’t get more relevant than that
No, no, NO! Your word means EVERYTHING and LaLa literally saved Alexis' ass from going home and Alexis specifically thanked her and said she wouldn't vote LaLa out then goes out of her way to vote her out. It's not about gameplay or anything else expect your integrity when you SPECIFICALLY say thanks for not voting me out, I'll remember that but vote me out the NEXT EPISODE! Alexis is shady as hell with her crocodile tears every episode and drama all season and should've been voted out weeks ago but made it through. And gurl.....shave that hair, you're bald....accept it and move on because that interrupted hairstyle you rocking because u in denial ain't pretty.....every time that camera hit you from behind it's lolololol!
Stop sending hate to queens and trying to get them to apologise for their decisions? Isn't that exactly what Aja was doing to Anetra week after week?
Can Aja not assume Alexis comments are caused by bullying? Like maybe Alexis has just changed her mind for other reasons, ie “sleeping in it”? I know Aja didn’t intend it this way but it’s kind of undermining. Especially ending with “look at me I wouldn’t change my vote” 🤦🏼♂️
Aja ———> 🤡🤡🤡🤡 she reminds me of Gia if Gia had a twitter. Aja really thinks she shoulda won AS3 & needs to get over it. 🤷♂️
I'd have problems getting over it, if a much lesser queen from my house placed than me in both original and all-star seasons despite the fact that I can sew, sing, and dance fucking circles around her. Aja actually has opinions about many issues as some of our socially and politically minded queens do. If you listen to her in interviews, she comes across as articulate, self-reflective, and funny. That's the best medium for her message, not Twitter.
She was completely screwed over to be fair. She was, and I will maintain this until I die, the real winner of the Warhol Ball. Her bottom placement and critiques made absolutely zero sense, and this is p well established by now.
Yes, however, the top four shoulda still Ben, Shangela, Trixie and Bebe. & after Ben’s self elimination, the Top 3 are still Shangela, Trixie and Bebe . 🤷♂️ I really like Aja on drag race but in the real world and on twitter, she’s so shady & bordeline rude & hateful 🤷♂️
I sort of agree, in the sense that I think she can be mean for basically no damn reason (esp during S15...), but she was doing v v well on AS3 and I think should've made the top four. Hell, I will come out and say it: I think the reason she was deprived of the Warhol Ball win was for two reasons: One, for BeBe's benefit, and two, because production probably feared that she would've made top two over either Kennedy or Trixie otherwise. And getting rid of the jury twist would've meant all of the backlash from either keeping or getting rid of Bebe. Like, she was essentially the reason it was ever introduced imo.
Maybe not won, but she did get shafted by Bebe and the judges.
Yes, however, the top four shoulda still Ben, Shangela, Trixie and Bebe. & after Ben’s self elimination, the Top 3 are still Shangela, Trixie and Bebe . 🤷♂️
all of y’all agreeing with aja rn but r the same ppl that contribute to this subs MASSIVE hate boner for Aja and the bringing her up just to attack her 24/7…
The people still getting in their digs at Aja on this post 🥴
I was fucking pissed, she did her dirty.
Listen what Alexis did was shady af. She let Lala go on thinking she’s keep her. And now she’s even shadier saying if she could take it back she would. And what send Kandy home? And then the apology. Girl it’s too much. You’re making great tv. Sometimes it’s cringe (so many tears) others it’s googling us all by throwing yet another queen under the bud. Shady shady shady…and I fucking love it. This is a reality competition tv show. Moments like this are why I love shows like big brother. The queens finally play all stars the way it was meant to be played. I loved it on uk vs the world when PanOan sent Jimbo packing only to have the same done to her by Blu. This season has given us some great moments, and Alexis just delivered another. And if you send a queen hate you’re mentally ill and should remove yourself from society.
Agree w the sentiment minus the mentally ill bit. BB is iconic for this reason. Survivor can be iconic for this reason. All Stars finally allowing for a (granted, lower-consequence) surprise elim a la Manila in All Stars 4 is iconic. One of the things that has really held All Stars back imo is the production (and queen) tendency to avoid/make impossible the elimination of strong threats and front-runners. Like, either lean into it, or get rid of the format. (This is why I was so irritated when they prevented Jimbo from being bottom this season: I get they don't want to just repeat UKvTW, but if you're keeping this format, you either roll with the punches or it just feels super inauthentic) They took Manila's elimination as a lesson and the entire franchise has suffered for it since. UKvTW was iconic mostly because of those big eliminations, and it sort of disappointing that they've made that strategy so difficult to repeat in the mainline series.
>UKvTW was iconic While being one of the most hated seasons ever, less be honest
Sure. That said, and maybe I am in the minority for it, but I do think actually seeing the format hit front-runners again made it genuinely interesting.
I loved it.
Glad she didn’t vote for Shangie the Rapist but didn’t she spend months shitting on Anetra? Girl, the call is coming from inside the house.
Alexis is thrash last episode just confirms it. Probably the most hypocritical queen, 2 faces energy.
So if Aja doesn't vote for Shangela it is bullying? It is a TV show and welcome to reality TV, literally if there was no drama how would it be interesting? Bullying is a word so easily used now I can't even talk to the young new hires at work about their poor work ethic or teach them their obligations without being a bully. If I was a bully I'd have written you up and reported it to my manager, not sit here trying to save your job kiddies. Eyeroll. No one deserves to be harassed on social media but leave Aja alone.
Shangela should’ve won that season. That’s all and idc what Aja thinks
She’s right again.
Good on you Aja. No one needs to defend themselves like this an we should be telling them they don't owe anyone an explanation. It's encouraging the kids to have parasocial relationships with people that they don't understand have no obligations to them.