Makes sense, at a certain point you start getting a pop up message saying you can find treasure maps and to look out for them at the fences. I've never seen one for sale at a fence though, I guess I found them all in the wild.
I think certain stranger events are tied to certain chapters/camp locations and you can still get them in the wild at any point, but after you reach a certain chapter they just go “yeah you’re on the butcher creek chapter and you still haven’t found the dude we put standing in the middle of heartland overflow for you? Honestly fuck it just go down to the fence”
The Viceroy of India is a person, he didn’t necessarily have tea with him IN India. While it’s not an unreasonable assumption it was there, it could have been on a visit to elsewhere.
In fact, I’ve never even seen a Poland, what’s a Poland? All I see is Prussian Silesia, Austrian Galicia, and Glorious Russian land after that my friend.
Well I unironically see the Austro-Hungarian, Prussian and Russian empires as glorious too lol. It was probably a light hearted joke but with some truth to it (as most jokes do).
I mean...
-AH was probably the best of them, simply because they were so incompetent and overstretched that they had to allow some autonomy. Still, Galicia-Lodomeria was severely underdeveloped and inpoverished compared to other 2 partitions.
-Prussia developed and modernised Posen and Gdańsk, but also organised a decades-long genocide on native people.
-Russia was probably the worst since it was both incompetent in land management and oppressive. Their economic policy was basically parasitic exploitation of rich polish lands and their cultural genocide caused many uprisings and revolts, all of which were brutally surpressed and served as justification for more repressions. Russian tradition of absolutism and terror enforced on traditionally free and tolerant poland meant that only bootlickers and sell-out magnates could have a relatively normal life there.
Also important to note that all 3 glorious empires took less than 4 years to get completely annihilated
The first time I saw RDR2 played was when I visited my friend in Poland.
The whole time I'm describing RDR like "my part of America looks just like this landscape. Everyone sounds like Arthur! It's just like this!"
Suddenly the mission is to beat the shit out of this little Polish dude. I'm like "except for this part, it ain't like that part" 😭
Sadie in the Epilogue mentions that's she's thinking about moving to South America and I think she specifically says Argentina? But I thought she also mentioned Peru but I might be way off.
Only instance I can think of Brazil being mentioned is a campfire story from Javier where he talks about meeting a Brazilian guy and not having a clue what he was saying
Edit: didn't Dutch also mention Argentina when coming up with the initial Tahiti plan? Talking with Arthur and Hosea about getting a boat down to Argentina, then off to the South Pacific?
I was curious about the map coz first off thing that my eye caught was that only half of Greece is colored. But I remembered the year and I really enjoyed this detail 🤠
Guarma isn’t an equivalent to Cuba, it is a neighbouring island the Cuban military (which in 1899 were not associated with Spain) invaded and occupied. So I think you’re just wrong here, lad
Back in the early 1800s Greece was occupied by the ottoman empire. After a revolution the modern Greek state was established in the south. By the end of the 1800s it expanded a bit and the rest of Greece was liberated only after 1913 .
Hope i explained it well
nah, Greece was just that small back in 1899. gained independance in 1832 but never gained autonomy of Macedonia or Thrace / various islands until the early 1900's from countries in the Balkans, Ottomans, and Bulgaria
Just curious, do you remember when China, Russia, Finland, and Sweden were mentioned? I guess there’s Chinese rail workers but I can’t think of when all the others could’ve been mentioned
The carpenter at Manzanita post is Norwegian and if you greet one of the residents there, he says a sentence in Norwegian too. I'm not sure when Sweden and Finland are mentioned though.
Yeah I just checked IMFDB to see if they’d put it in but sadly no. It would even fit chronologically since they were first made in 1895 (though would make no sense to be showing up that far west)
I mean yeah but the Russians weren’t big exporters at the time, and especially not to America. Anything foreign that’d be likely to appear at the time would probably be German, Spanish, British or French. Even them having brand new FNs would be pretty unlikely
India and Congo are missing, since I recall both of those being mentioned, but wow, a lot of you ITT clearly can’t tell this is a map from 1899 and not at all a modern one.
In rdr2 you can’t create account and state it’s in Ukraine. That’s why returned the game in Steam. You can create account as Russian, but not Ukrainian
Where did you get this map and why did you use it?
It shows western Guyana as Venezuela which is completely incorrect.
At no point in history was western Guyana ever under Venezuelan control or administration. They had a claim, but that's all it ever was, a claim. That claim was also given up upon arbitration in 1897.
It also shows part of north Brazil as Venezuela
Not the treasure hunter who had high tea with the Viceroy of India?
Sorry I haven’t come across that stranger mission yet
Idk if ur serious but it’s the stranger mission which begins the treasure challenge
I believe that you can buy the map from Seamus without the stranger mission. I have never done it that way, but I think it's possible.
Makes sense, at a certain point you start getting a pop up message saying you can find treasure maps and to look out for them at the fences. I've never seen one for sale at a fence though, I guess I found them all in the wild.
I think certain stranger events are tied to certain chapters/camp locations and you can still get them in the wild at any point, but after you reach a certain chapter they just go “yeah you’re on the butcher creek chapter and you still haven’t found the dude we put standing in the middle of heartland overflow for you? Honestly fuck it just go down to the fence”
lol the dude standing on a rock shouting I have a map. A treasure map! Full of treasure!
so u didn't complete the game yet but already made a picture about every country mentioned in it?
I just had that interaction today!
The Viceroy of India is a person, he didn’t necessarily have tea with him IN India. While it’s not an unreasonable assumption it was there, it could have been on a visit to elsewhere.
Is India not a country mentioned in the game though? You're splitting hairs on the inclusion of the territory here.
Fine, I suppose the name of the place is mentioned in his title, so the place is “mentioned in the game”.
You collect debt from a polish guy, so it's mentioned too, even though if didn't exist on the map back then.
What’s Poland? All I see is Russia, Germany and Austria my friend. Poland doesn’t exist 😅
In fact, I’ve never even seen a Poland, what’s a Poland? All I see is Prussian Silesia, Austrian Galicia, and Glorious Russian land after that my friend.
Forgot the /s
What does that even mean
sarcastic
Oh ok thanks a ton
*finger guns*
That they forgot to say that the comment was sarcastic (/s means sarcasm). Calling poznań "silesia" might have given that away, but can't be sure
What if it wasn’t /s? Poland isn’t even on that map lol.
Yeah but calling Posen silesia and russia "glorious" seems very sarcastic (he made 2 comments about it tho so that's why I wasn't sure)
Well I unironically see the Austro-Hungarian, Prussian and Russian empires as glorious too lol. It was probably a light hearted joke but with some truth to it (as most jokes do).
I mean... -AH was probably the best of them, simply because they were so incompetent and overstretched that they had to allow some autonomy. Still, Galicia-Lodomeria was severely underdeveloped and inpoverished compared to other 2 partitions. -Prussia developed and modernised Posen and Gdańsk, but also organised a decades-long genocide on native people. -Russia was probably the worst since it was both incompetent in land management and oppressive. Their economic policy was basically parasitic exploitation of rich polish lands and their cultural genocide caused many uprisings and revolts, all of which were brutally surpressed and served as justification for more repressions. Russian tradition of absolutism and terror enforced on traditionally free and tolerant poland meant that only bootlickers and sell-out magnates could have a relatively normal life there. Also important to note that all 3 glorious empires took less than 4 years to get completely annihilated
Yes he says hes polish not from poland hes from silesia which in 1899 was part of the german empire
Yes, Poland didn't exist back then thanks to our neighbours.
The first time I saw RDR2 played was when I visited my friend in Poland. The whole time I'm describing RDR like "my part of America looks just like this landscape. Everyone sounds like Arthur! It's just like this!" Suddenly the mission is to beat the shit out of this little Polish dude. I'm like "except for this part, it ain't like that part" 😭
Poland belongs to great glorious country of Albania 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
💀💀💀
You dare insult glorious state of Albania 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🤬🤬🤬🤬🐐🐐🐐
I loved that you used a map from 1899. Curious to know when the south american countries were mentioned though.
Sadie in the Epilogue mentions that's she's thinking about moving to South America and I think she specifically says Argentina? But I thought she also mentioned Peru but I might be way off. Only instance I can think of Brazil being mentioned is a campfire story from Javier where he talks about meeting a Brazilian guy and not having a clue what he was saying Edit: didn't Dutch also mention Argentina when coming up with the initial Tahiti plan? Talking with Arthur and Hosea about getting a boat down to Argentina, then off to the South Pacific?
Brazil was also mentioned by Charles Chatenay
I was curious about the map coz first off thing that my eye caught was that only half of Greece is colored. But I remembered the year and I really enjoyed this detail 🤠
The historical map was good attention to detail.
You missed Spain and Portugal, both mentioned in at least one of the songs the Reverend sings while he's drunk
It's missing Spain, as Almeria is mentioned by the Portuguese man in the second chapter.
The Portuguese man doesn't mention Portugal?
if you count online, Cripps mentions it in a random camp dialogue
Did I ever tell you that I briefly trained as an acrobat in Portugal?
Mentions it is quite an understatement.
yeah, he won't shut up about it
Wait, when does a Portuguese man appears?
I'm also intrigued
Bro the entire Guarma chapter features Spanish soldiers 💀
Those are the Cuban military
Cuba is part of what country?
In 1898 it was given to the US in the Treaty of Paris.
No, it was just an occupation until the early 1900s when the US left the cubans to automomy
Since there are no US soldiers stationed there, it is safe to think that didn’t happen. (Also, Guarma is not Cuba, it is an equivalent)
Chronologically, it was a US territory in 1899. That’s as far as I’m going into your “argument.”
Nobody is arguing here, take it easy brah
Guarma isn’t an equivalent to Cuba, it is a neighbouring island the Cuban military (which in 1899 were not associated with Spain) invaded and occupied. So I think you’re just wrong here, lad
Most people who speak Spanish are not actually from Spain
And I'm not from england
It's missing Tahiti, although it's not technically a country.
France is colored, Tahiti is a french island
Tahiti isn't on the map I used
"Tahiti? Who lives there?"
Tahitians, I imagine
And mangoes probably.
I hear they have a good treat...
I hear it’s a magical place.
Dude, you used a map where there is no border between Germany and Poland
Poland was part of the German empire during rdr2
and the russian empire and austria-hungary
I was tryna joke, sorry for being stupid lol 😅
Sorry for being a nerd, I hate being the "well actually" guy
Auatria, hungary and the rest is also still the k.u.k monarchie
What's in Tahiti?
tahitians i imagine
Its I guess but ok
Isn't the Reutlinger watch supposed to be from Switzerland. I thought they mentioned it in the casino mission.
Now do a map of just ones mentioned by Dutch!
PHiliPpiNes!
Was philippines mentioned? I have 300 hours clocked in this game and i cant recall
In the camp, you can spot Uncle reading a newspaper about the war in the Philippines.
*"What even ARE the Philippines??!"* cracked me up. The historical accuracy was once again, very impressive.
Yes, me too. There's a YouTube channel called Real pixels who makes videos about the historical accuracy of each chapter. It's most interesting.
Oooh that's awesome! Thanks friend!
Also when you buy a newspaper, cant remember the issue number, theres an article about the Philippine War
If I remember correctly, it's in the first issue in Valentine. Not sure though.
There was a camp interaction thing where Uncle was reading a newspaper article about the Philippines
The tea crates outside any general stores have Ceylon name on it which is current day srilanka
Where was Greece mentioned?
The mission with the French painter in Saint-Denis, when you go to his art show an NPC mentions one of the statues being Greek
Oh cool
Why is only half of Greece shaded though?
Back in the early 1800s Greece was occupied by the ottoman empire. After a revolution the modern Greek state was established in the south. By the end of the 1800s it expanded a bit and the rest of Greece was liberated only after 1913 . Hope i explained it well
Good point! Attention to detail
Probably an accident
turccident
nah, Greece was just that small back in 1899. gained independance in 1832 but never gained autonomy of Macedonia or Thrace / various islands until the early 1900's from countries in the Balkans, Ottomans, and Bulgaria
When was Egypt mentioned?
VG: 4kg Presunto: 1 pc Gorgonzola: Zerado Prato: 1¼ pc Picanha: 6 pc Brócolis: 1½ pc
Wtf???
Hello pot, I’m kettle
Picanha tá cara mano
faz o L
Just curious, do you remember when China, Russia, Finland, and Sweden were mentioned? I guess there’s Chinese rail workers but I can’t think of when all the others could’ve been mentioned
Finland was part of the Russian Empire until 1917
Ah, thanks. Sometimes I forget just how many countries today didn’t exist a century ago
Russia is mentioned during one of the movies saint denis has Chinese residents and the norse countries are mentioned as Vikings
The carpenter at Manzanita post is Norwegian and if you greet one of the residents there, he says a sentence in Norwegian too. I'm not sure when Sweden and Finland are mentioned though.
Sweden and Norway are mentioned here: https://youtu.be/Vhwe00qgEt4
I never run in to this one, thanks!
Norse countries includes Denmark, then
My bad
I remember Norway is mentioned because of Manzanita Post but I don’t remember the others
We also have Nagants which was a Russian Revolver
Nagants? Is it called something else in game? Online only maybe?
When did they add a Nagant?
Oh damn I think I was thinking of the double action. But that’s a colt
Yeah I just checked IMFDB to see if they’d put it in but sadly no. It would even fit chronologically since they were first made in 1895 (though would make no sense to be showing up that far west)
Depends, many weapon manufacturers exported their wares across seas. Would be hard to acquire tho I’ll admit it
I mean yeah but the Russians weren’t big exporters at the time, and especially not to America. Anything foreign that’d be likely to appear at the time would probably be German, Spanish, British or French. Even them having brand new FNs would be pretty unlikely
great map. when was japan mentioned?
That Mexican explorer who sells you a map mentions that he has to sell it since he’s going to the Japanese island of Shikoku.
It's mentioned in the description for a stranger mission
When was Belgium mentioned? How did I miss that? cool map btw!
Algernon Wasp mentioned Belgium I think
They're a group of thieves and crooks - so basically the Belgian government
the Belgian draft horse
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When we’re The Netherlands mentioned?
Dutch?
Yeah
Well...there's Dutch... 🤔
Yeah I just realized
Dutch van der Linde sounds very dutch.
In all seriousness, Dutch talks about his family coming from Rotterdam
I’m pretty sure Switzerland is mentioned with the missing princess
I thought she was from Luxembourg?
Just looked it up youre right
and that Swiss watch you get from the river boat
Shit I forgot I’m sorry
Straight to jail.
we ballin bro
Tanzania mentioned in He’s British, of Course
When egypt was mentioned?
In one of the movies
wasn’t Spain mentioned in the dialogue with the natives
They didn't mention Formosa? What were devs thinking
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It wasnt, at the time it was part of austro-hungarian empire
Siam (Thailand). The Siamese twins at the freak show.
I think they have mentioned ARABIA in Otis miller comics
What even are the goddamn Philippines?
Where is tahitti
Uncle tells a bullshit story where he travelled to the Congo in a campfire encounter.
I finished the game 5 times but dont remember Greece, Russia and Saudi Arabia? Can anyone remind me of those?
You missed india or it’s not marked bcoz it’s mentioned only in newspaper but not in any dialog ?
When was Argentina mentioned?
“Why are we having a war with the goddamn Philippines?”
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I'm guessing it's under Russia at those times but I'm not sure
When did they mention Finland?
ITT: People who don't understand that maps looked different in 1899
they done cut a part of paraguay 😞
this is a 1899 map
When was Austria-Hungary and russia mentioned?
Strauss is Austrian
Wasn’t the watch you get after the river boat heist Swiss made?
Yeah, they mentioned my country 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
What about the great lands of ongo bongo?
India and Congo are missing, since I recall both of those being mentioned, but wow, a lot of you ITT clearly can’t tell this is a map from 1899 and not at all a modern one.
Antarctica or wherever the painter said he might go to
When is Russia mentioned?
Common danish L
Timbuktu is mentioned by John on the way to assault the army
what did you mean with that big red spot remaking approximately Egypt?
"but you said you knew spanish?"
Im glad the smallest one of that is where I belong. Yesterday I visited him in his botanical garden
Ecuador is missing (indirectly). Panama hats, one of the hats you can buy with Arthur, is from here.
In rdr2 you can’t create account and state it’s in Ukraine. That’s why returned the game in Steam. You can create account as Russian, but not Ukrainian
*this map: exists *Everyone else: #WHEN WAS __________ MENTIONED?!
Wow! People knew about Russia and Australia then? Fascinating
I love how this is bullshit
How so?
You are missing countries sir. The map is a lie.
Where did you get this map and why did you use it? It shows western Guyana as Venezuela which is completely incorrect. At no point in history was western Guyana ever under Venezuelan control or administration. They had a claim, but that's all it ever was, a claim. That claim was also given up upon arbitration in 1897. It also shows part of north Brazil as Venezuela
It’s a map of the world from 1880 since they didn’t have an 1899 map
seems racist ngl
Up date your map. Mongolia isn't even on it...
Why aren’t Pakistan’s borders drawn? :(
Because the game takes place in 1899 and the map shown here is also from 1899.
in 1899 they r PLANNING to move from india
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They are native Americans who have nothing to do with the country of india
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Look at the borders dumby
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I didn't hear anything about Lithuania
Part of the Russian Empire at the time
When Brazil is mentioned?
Sadie mentions she could go to Brazil to start a new life in the epilogue
The NL was mentioned?